Comments on: RPK’s bombshell allegation on Altantuya murder – Abdullah, Najib, Rosmah cannot remain silent

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By: taiking

taiking — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:04:26 +0000

RPK is providing bloggers with really nice neat fuel to burn the web.
So burn on fellas.
Burn on.
And keep it going.
Pretenders may leave if they find the heat too over-bearing.
And. Notice is not necessary. Just vanish.

By: cheng on soo

cheng on soo — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:40:28 +0000

Possible conclusion after investigation,
a) RPK was of unsound mind or drunk or under threat while making declaration.
b) Persuruhjaya Sumpah was also of unsound mind or drunk or under threat or was bribed when she witnessed the declaration.
Both of them had been cautioned. The declaration is null and void. Case closed, No more wasting of public fund and time for unnecessary investigation. All Persuruhjaya Sumpah are cautioned not to witness any declaration from any unsound mind or drunk person.

By: mobileworld

mobileworld — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:28:30 +0000

Just ensure that it does not fizzle out..strike the iron while its hot! Good Luck!

By: TheWrathOfGrapes

TheWrathOfGrapes — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:21:41 +0000

Well, their silence says it all.
Their silence is deafening.

By: shamshul anuar

shamshul anuar — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:34:58 +0000

Dear REaders,

There is a reminder aptly written in Quran in dealing with news. The Quran says “….And when you receive news from “orang-orang fasik”, do investigate so that you do not commit injustices to others….

So, simply believing the accusation by Raja Petra just out of hatred to Najib is wrong.

By: tourman53

tourman53 — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:55:13 +0000

Uncle Lim,
I know you can do it.
Save Malaysia!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IIBhGGJFs4

By: undergrad2

undergrad2 — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:40:48 +0000

Godfather Says:

Today at 13: 25.48 (4 hours ago)
“Given leave” to submit the motion doesn’t mean that the motion will be accepted by the Speaker.”

That’s right.

For example, “leave” to appeal is not the appeal itself. It is just permission by the trial judge to make the appeal. If the grounds for an appeal are not satisfied, leave would not be granted.

In the Parliamentary setting, leave has to be applied for and granted by the Speaker of the House.

By: Jeffrey

Jeffrey — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:29:38 +0000

language of themalaysianinsider.com has changed ? It might have misreported about LKS being “given leave” (ie permission) to adjourn the House under Standing Order 18 (1) to discuss RPK’s SD”.

From what I read from LKS latest thread, he has not yet being given leave but has merely served notice for an adjournment of Parliament under S.O. 18 (1) to tomorrow, so Godfather may be right that tomorrow only the Speaker would still have to rule on whether the mater raised is a fit and proper subject for parliamentary debate based on criteria of “urgency, specific and of public interest”.

It depends on the Speaker – he is the key – but assuming he rules against LKS’s motion, the question after is whether the rightness or error of his ruling may also be contested and put to a vote that will test the majority principle in lieu of using Sharir’s motion on govt’s measures to ameliorate the price hike.

In any case, besides the advantage of testing majority (if that could be done), LKS’s bringing it up in Parliament in presence of media/public observers would hopefully raise public profile of RPK’s allegations that our Mainstream Media has mostly – and cowardly -not done their professional duty of reporting importanty news.

By: stnaaron

stnaaron — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:40:09 +0000

in-human clans and for those has involves in the killing of Atlantuya you are worst then public toilet scuds. i hope najis ! don’t mind about that cos he is already classified as najis!

By: mobileworld

mobileworld — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:55:25 +0000

Aha…a motion in Parliament to debate this…interesting, make sure it does not fizzle out like the JJ… GRO hugging affair!

By: lakilompat

lakilompat — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:34:46 +0000

To all dear Malaysian,

The Mongolian cases are not ordinary cases, as it involved C4 which only the minister of defence can dispense & highly trained soldiers knew how to implode it.

Seriously i don’t believe Najis has nothing to do with Atlantuya, who is the father of Atlantuya yet to be born child.

Scared the DNA test? horny najis.

By: Godfather

Godfather — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:11:38 +0000

No quarrel can be greater than my quarrel with BN. It’s just that I am not a lawyer, and I don’t understand what Standing Order 18(1) is all about.

By: limkamput

limkamput — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:56:39 +0000

I understand, Godfather. But the language of themalaysianinsider.com has changed since the last time I checked. Originally it was as I have quoted. But now it is slightly different. I only change the specific name to “vip” in my original posting because the moderator did not allow that name. I think themalaysianinsider.com misreported. I agree with you, it is not so easy to get the speaker’s approval for the debate under 18(1). Please don’t quarrel with Jeffrey again ok.

By: Godfather

Godfather — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:45:52 +0000

My worry is that LKS has been given leave to move the motion, which then has to be ruled upon for urgency or of public interest. It’s like giving everyone a peep in typical peep-show, only to have the curtains drawn tightly shut when the real action begins.

By: limkamput

limkamput — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:41:45 +0000

i think given leave means allowed to debate on. The motion must satisfy three conditions, urgency, specific and of public interest. But what happen after the debate, i am not too sure, anybody care to advise.

By: limkamput

limkamput — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:39:46 +0000

my source: http://themalaysianinsider.com/

By: Jeffrey

Jeffrey — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:35:24 +0000

And the “leave” was presumably given by the Speaker of Parliament!

By: Jeffrey

Jeffrey — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:29:55 +0000

I don’t think I need to explain further the ordinary grammatical meaning of what Lim Kam Put said, which was “given leave (ie permission”) to adjourn the House under Standing Order 18 (1) to discuss RPK’s SD”.

By: Godfather

Godfather — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:25:48 +0000

“Given leave” to submit the motion doesn’t mean that the motion will be accepted by the Speaker.