Sabah Progressive Party (SAPP) has dropped a bombshell when its president Yong Teck Lee announced that its two MPs, Dr. Chua Soon Bui (Tawau) and Eric Majimbun (Sepanggar) would move a no-confidence motion against Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi when Parliament resumes on Monday.
But will the bombshell land in Parliament on Monday?
With the ruling coalition commanding unbroken two-thirds parliamentary majority in the 11 general elections since Merdeka in 1957 until the recent political tsunami of the March 2008 general election, there had never been any no confidence motion against the Prime Minister in Malaysian parliamentary history.
The Parliamentary Standing Orders do not have special provision for a no confidence motion.
In the circumstances, a no confidence motion may be regarded as an ordinary motion under Standing Order 27 which requires notice of 14 days to be given – making it impossible for such a no confidence motion to be tabled on Monday, June 23, 2008 as the earliest would be July 2 if the no confidence motion is submitted today.
Standing Order 18 which allows an MP to move a motion to adjourn the House to discuss a definite matter of urgent public importance will be inappropriate and unhelpful as it only allows one hour debate on the specified issue without any vote being taken at the end of the debate.
The only way for a no confidence motion to be tabled and debated on Monday is for the Speaker ito treat it as a substantive and extraordinary motion which should take precedence and priority over all parliamentary business which does not need to comply with the requisite 14-day notice and publishing it as the first item of parliamentary business after Question Time in the Parliamentary Order of Business on Monday.
In doing so, however, the Speaker is likely be in direct loggerheads with the government of the day and must be prepared to pay the consequences of such decision.
I see little possibility of SAPP’s No Confidence Motion against Abdullah as Prime Minister being tabled and debated on Monday unless there is a second political tsunami in the next few days, with waves of support from other Barisan Nasional MPs from Sabah, Sarawak and Peninsula Malaysia making it a credible parliamentary move.
Whether the SAPP no confidence motion is tabled and debated in Parliament on Monday, its very announcement has set off political shock waves in the country confirming the longstanding, widespread and deepseated discontent of the people of Sabah at their unfair treatment by Umno leaders, whether at Federal or State level.
#1 by Godfather on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 9:06 pm
Yong Teck Lee doesn’t have a stellar reputation – like all typical Sabah politicians. It’s a question of who can satisfy more of his demands.
#2 by patriotic1994 on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 9:07 pm
Sorry for distraction…
I stumbled upon this page by RTM Malaysia, long time ago article.
http://www.rtm.net.my/mediabaru/?p=23
It was laughing at Kit.
Nobody comment that article.
Then I checked the latest post, it was until Jan 2008!
Make me think RTM is only meant to be biased.
#3 by Jeffrey on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 9:24 pm
Ah Pek, it should be the first said by you – thanks for correcting the mistake.
#4 by Better Future on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 9:31 pm
SAPP should just join Pakatan Rakyat instead of voting for no confidence vote. I think they are trying to let AAB to counter offer. All BN components party is damm greedy like the running dog MCA which came out to support immediately. MCA is like ” Hon Kan”.
#5 by rainbowseahorse on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 9:50 pm
Yong is not a clean politician and has plenty of skeletons in his closet. By making that announcement, he is being fool hardy as opportunistic greed has over ride caution. Pak Lah is now totally pissed off now and he is not the forgiving type.
Yong, you have badly miscalculated! You will be such a dead duck!
#6 by katdog on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 10:00 pm
Unless Yong is getting support from number 2 Najib to pressure Abdullah to give way faster.
#7 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 10:08 pm
A ‘motion of no confidence’ in the Prime Minister does succeed in certain situations and may even be the only way out of a political impasse – and very likely to succeed when it is bipartisan. This one looks like it is tailor made for just such a situation.
What happens then? Will the ruling coalition appoint another among their own to take his place? Or will there be a request to the King to dissolve Parliament and hold fresh elections? Will the King deny that request and force the ruling coalition to appoint one among their own to replace him? Has the King the discretion under our Constitution?
Any constitutional law expert here? Jefferey QC?
#8 by zagato on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 10:18 pm
I bet PR will not support the motion if it is tabled. A weak PM is an asset to Pakatan Rakyat.
#9 by winsoontan on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 10:29 pm
Look likes a lot of people here support the move. For me i think we must have a peaceful country and good government!
#10 by AhPek on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 10:36 pm
But first thing first …Will the Speaker allow the motion to be tabled?
#11 by Godfather on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 10:39 pm
It doesn’t matter if the Speaker disallows it. Either by then SAPP has further support from other parties, or it will have to exit from BN – the polls suggest that a vast majority of their supporters want them to quit anyway.
It may also end up as a storm in a teacup in that nothing else happens for the time being. It may be a good strategy for Sleepy Head to remain asleep – and the little storm may just pass with little or no consequence.
#12 by alancheah on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 10:53 pm
Time to CHANGE!
Good Luck to Malaysia!
#13 by k1980 on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 10:54 pm
This buggah is probably thinking: “Why the hell didn’t I crop up sodomy charges against Ah Yong before the elections? Then he would be languishing behind bars with a black eye and unable to table a motion of no confidence in me…Regrets, regrets, Bah!”
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/imagegallery/store/phprLsACa.jpg
#14 by winsoontan on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 10:55 pm
The MPs should always think of Rakyat! Dont think of yourselve only!
Whatever you do, first, must for Rakyat, Second also for Rakyat, Third , do not forget of you represent Rakyat!
#15 by blablowbla on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:00 pm
things are getting more and more interesting!
MCA OngKT said we need to have a politically stable situation in our country,may i ask you mr.Ong KT,for the past 50 years,our country was very stable ,how much UMNO ,MCA and MIC leaders had siphoned off the ill-gotten gains???few trillion???
so,both of these sumbag parties still try to show their ‘loyalty’ to the ‘deadman’,have they forgotten the way UMNO youths treated them and the ‘deadman’ not even bothered to intervene!
OngKT and Samy got no balls!
#16 by Ahila on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:10 pm
many will be happy if Sapp jumps ship….me too!
But past history reminds me that Yong Teck Lee is not only cunning but deadly greedy.What if all these are for personal gain?
They are probably testing the PM……..expecting something Big.oNLY goD KNOWS ! iF THEY ARE SINCERE ………gOOD FOR THEM AND uS. OnLy GOd KNoWs…………………..
#17 by blablowbla on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:17 pm
yes,have both of you forgotten too when they said they dont require any other party?a shame on both of youlah OngKT and Samy!!!
i can understand how both of you feel,like ‘chow mai fun’ is ‘jobless’ now,you all may follow suite right??? :-)
#18 by Kasim Amat on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:18 pm
Well done, Yong Teck Lee, the traitor manifest himself again. SAPP is just a small party, even it leaves BN it will not affect the unity of other member parties of BN. On the other hand, it will test the loyalty of other member parties and I don’t think either MCA or MIC want to be labelled as traitor for leaving BN. Further. MCA and MIC have already vowed to support for BN and UMNO no matter what happens. With MCA and MIC, being the two largest parties in their own respective ethnic group, BN is not going to fold so easily so you guys who commented that BN’s days are counting are totally dreaming!
#19 by cvl on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:19 pm
Yong’s enigmatic call for a no confidence vote this coming Monday blends very much in the political camouflage of the moment, where the flavor is for the AAB to step down. Yong knows well enough he and SAPP do not have the clout to move the no confidence vote, therefore concluding his salvo was aimed at other more mundane
things.
So why did Yong make that announcement?
For one, SAPP statements today just may not be a morning cock crow; more like a hunter’s grouse call to draw out the wild grouses, both for the shootout, and for population estimation. Indeed far from heralding a new dawn as would be when others join in to crow the morning, Yong was simply delivering a product to both DSAI and KJ at the same time. Ever since the GE 12 both DSAI and KJ have been in open patrol for dissenting factions in UMNO albeit operating from different home base, with apparent different reasons. So for Yong, two birds with one stone?
Secondly, DAP and PKR are both eroding SAPP base in Sabah. Yong has to reinvent and learn fast from GERAKAN / MCA/MIC misfortunes. Or forever be cast in political wilderness. How best but to champion issues that are close to Sabahan hearts.
Thirdly, Yong and Musa Aman go back a long way, even up to family ties. If Musa has been salvaged by ABB, it fall within the scheme of things for Yong to make the grouse call.
Fourthly, Yong is fully aware how PBS tumbled from a position of power when they aligned themselves to Semangat. So to repeat similar step in earnest, Yong would have shored some more.
No, as someone else said, Yong does not have any stellar precedents. He is just being politically busy to grab attention for SAPP survival.
#20 by KennyGan on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:20 pm
It doesn’t matter if the motion of no confidence succeeds or not. SAPP will have to pull out of BN, this is clear. This may start a domino effect of other disgrunted parties/MPs pulling out of BN. Whether they become independent or join PR, the effect is the same on BN – a possible loss of majority in parliament.
#21 by Kasim Amat on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:20 pm
so please don’t be detracted by Yong because of his personal greed.
#22 by blablowbla on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:20 pm
OngKT and Samy looked at YTL:you jumped we no jump,yet!
#23 by blablowbla on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:25 pm
Kasim Amat,talking about greed,UMNO will take Champion,1st Runner-up,and 2nd Runner-up!if Olympic has this competition,we will surely win!!!
#24 by k1980 on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:42 pm
This is a classic example of thieves falling out over their loot, due to their greed
#25 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:52 pm
“No need for the melo drama of making public an unprecedented call to move a motion of no confidence on PM in Parliament on Monday when one is not sure whether Parliamentary standing orders support it (or that the Speaker will defect along with you)! ” JeffreyQC
What you do is you try when you got nothing to lose. If it does not go to the floor, then maybe better luck next time. But melodrama?? I don’t think so.
#26 by The Enforcer on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:58 pm
Uncle Lim, out of curiousity, did YTL approach PR, hinted to PR or DSAI about their intentions before they let the cat out of the bag? If no, then this YTL is only out “fishing” AAB for better perks for personal gains. Am sure YTL has feedback from his grassroot and if he is sincere about the rakyat then come out and say it out. Do not let PR have fear of your kind intentions.
Everyone is asking for sleepy head to step down. Ask ourselves do we want any other of the GOONS in UMNO to take his place? Who else in there can we RAKYAT trust our and our children’s future to? The whole team needs to be changed (government). Yes, PR is still an infant but there are some with “substance” in the team. It’s better to take risks with someone new then to be slaughtered by the crooked!!! They’ve done it for far too long already.
By the way, uncle Lim, is the bond between the PR team ( the parties) as strong as before GE 12? There seems to be a number of cracks appearing within. If this is so, then the rakyat should know what is it and how the team is trying to rectify it. Tell the team to make decisions with conscience and not to make the rakyat suffer further. Do not forget that it is the rakyat who can make things happen ( thru the pen and paper). Have a good day uncle Lim!
#27 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 12:00 am
“With the ruling coalition commanding unbroken two-thirds parliamentary majority in the 11 general elections since Merdeka in 1957 until the recent political tsunami of the March 2008 general election, there had never been any no confidence motion against the Prime Minister in Malaysian parliamentary history.” Kit
Obviously a partisan motion cannot succeed. What if it is bipartisan? What it takes is for a handful of renegade MPs to ignore party rules.
#28 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 12:03 am
Any in-fighting within PR as to who should lead and should have been consulted first is bad – an ominous sign of what is ahead!
#29 by raven77 on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 12:17 am
This Yong guy is surely taking advantage of Badawi’s weak situation and may be acting out of personal greed rather then his endearment to Sabah’s loss of its sovereignity…..his move must surely be a catalyst for the break-up of this bunch of thieves who have been merrily looting the public’s money….it is unnerving that they should be associated with the DAP which has been consistent in its principles of sound governance….
#30 by Anak Malaysia on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 12:51 am
Dear Malaysians and Muslim Brothers & Sisters,
The wave of “Political Tsunami” has travelled very fast within 100 days from the West coast of Penang and reached the East coast of Sabah today. What a SHOCKING breaking news from a political component party of BN, SAPP to sound their strong tsunami warning voices on vote of “NO CONFIDENCE” against their loyal MASTER, PM of Malaysia? It is indeed a symbolic history i.e. ” Hari Ini Dalam Sejarah Malaysia” that all Malaysians will brave enough to sack or fire the PM on the forthcoming Parliament sitting on Black Monday, 23 June 2008.
Well! We, PR Malaysians and foreign investors are observing and waiting eagerly to see how strong the political climate and the strong tsunami waves from Sabah is going to change the political landscape of Malaysian government after UMNO leads ruled with iron fist on their components parties to obey their orders, no questions and yes men, Sir for past 50 long years since independence of Malaya.
Furthermore, the drastic actions by SAPP MPs to put up such motion in the coming Parliament sitting on black Monday is an acid test against the other UMNO MPs like KULI and MUKHRIZ to support their past calls to pressure Pak Lah to step down. We yet to observe both MPs walk the talk or purely “cakap kosong” only.
Interesting to receive an interesting e-mail from a senior fuel engineer of Sabah tribe smart guy informed our comrades Arabian, fuel engineers stationed in oil states; Sabah, Sawarak and Kelantan. Our comrade, Sabahan engineer is sad to tell us that Sabah is the third richest petrol producer state and also a rich natural resources exporter. Today Sabah is the poorest state in Malaysia. Believe it or not ? Where are billions of ringgit from Sabah?
We are sad and shocked to see the population of illegal immigrants from neighbouring countries are invading Sabah. Such big illegals migration is a national threat to the sovereignity of Malaysia today. Increase in crime rates and hardcore poor of the local Sabah people are increasing daily with the increase prices of essential goods and services.
Yes, the email indicated the TRUE about SAPP’s 14 points submitted to PM for his kind consideration and the response on each point from Federal government todate as follows:-
1. Political autonomy should be enhanced so that Sabah can manage its own affairs, including the implementation of the Sabah Development Corridor, 9th Malaysia Plan projects and the civil service.
Response from the Federal Government? None.
2. Respect for and recognition of the State Government under the leadership of the Chief Minister of the day. At times, Sabah representatives bad mouth other Sabah leaders in front of federal leaders. This has made Sabah look divided and therefore easily manipulated.
Response from the Federal Government? None.
3. Sabah needs increased representation at the national political (Cabinet) and administrative (civil service) main stream and revival of the Ministry of Special Affairs for Sabah and Sarawak.
Response from the Federal Government?
PM announced to/for civil service. No reply on Minister of Special Affairs.
4. A non-racial approach to national unity and the empowerment of minority groups are also important in nation building to stop the polarization of racial
and religious communities in the country.
Response from the Federal Government? None.
5. There is also a need to clarify once and for all the validity of post-NEP New Economic Policy) policies so that any affirmative action must reach the target groups, irrespective of race, that is the people truly in need of assistance.
Response from the Federal Government? No clarification to date.
6. The government must embark on an immediate action plan to solve the illegal immigrant situation in Sabah, including the syndicated My Kad and other dubious documents, that has been a source of unhappiness among the people.
Response from the Federal Government? Cabinet Committee merely window dressing.
(Same committee was announced in 2004)
7. The closure of the JPPS (Federal Department of Development) in Sabah. The reason for JPPS’s existence is long gone.
Response from the Federal Government? Closure affirmative, only after more than a decade. 38 local staff not given post.
8. Abolition of the double taxation on oil palm in the form of cooking oil subsidies paid ever since June 2007. This taxation should be refunded to the oil palm planters concerned. On the other hand, Sabah does not benefit from the other rice-producing regions in the country. In fact, we pay more for the rice that we consume in Sabah.
Response from the Federal Government? A new tax of 7.5% will be imposed on CPO millers in Sabah and Sarawak and 15% from Peninsular Malaysia. Questionable Windfall Profit Levy.
9. To address the higher freight charges, exorbitant air fares, increasing costs of living, inefficient internet broad band services, electric power break downs, bureaucratic red tape and a host of other entrenched interests (BERNAS monopoly, proton car prices, newspaper prices, KLIA-spoke and wheel policy (against an open air policy), etc..) have staked up against a State like Sabah.
Response from the Federal Government? No action.
10. Federal negligence, the abrupt way that the Money Lenders Act 1951 (Act 400) was extended to Sabah on 1 January 2008. No mechanism was put in place to administer the new law. This has caused much confusion, financial losses and potential legal disputes in Sabah. How can this be allowed to happen in the first place? How can the Sabah Money Lenders Ordinance 1901 (Sabah Cap 81) be brushed aside just like that? Where is the hurry to displace an already established administration of the Sabah Money Lenders Ordinance that has worked well for a century? Now, Sabah is left to bear the consequent losses.
Response from the Federal Government? None.
11. Proposal to make legally binding (on the Federal Treasury) the compensation of loss of revenues due to Sabah under the Part V of the 10th Schedule of the Federal Constitution (Additional Sources of Revenue Assigned to Borneo States).
This relates to import duty and excise duty on petroleum products in Sabah and Sarawak. Parliamentary amendments (necessitated by the Asean Free Trade Area (AFTA)pact) to the Sales Tax Act 1972 in 1999 had caused Sabah and Sarawak to lose this revenue which amounted to about RM 200 million per annum per state.
Response from the Federal Government? None.
12. The Special Status of the High Courts in Sabah and Sarawak under Article 121 of the Federal Constitution must be borne in mind too. The amendments to the Sabah Advocates Ordinance 1953 proposed by the Sabah Law Association has been long overdue to be made into federal law. This is so that the Legal Profession Act need not be extended to Sabah (and Sarawak).
Response from the Federal Government? None.
13. Proposal that Petronas money should be used to build the Labuan bridge because Labuan needs a bridge to the main land.
Response from the Federal Government? None.
14. To seek an increase of oil royalties to 20%.
Response from the Federal Government? None.
Well, Do Malaysians agreed with 14 points and feedback answers?
We, Arabian engineers are damn pity and sad to see and witness the suffering of the people of Sabah for many years. For instance, local students have to travel 10km daily to/fro by walking without transport to schools, students and teachers have to sit on the floors without tables and chairs, local hawkers businesses suffered when cheap illegal hawkers took over, unemployment of local Sabahans are very high due to cheap illegal labors and etc.
What a SHAME to Kasim Amat for his silly statement? Do SAPP President Yong is fighting for his personal greeds ? Similar statement is made by your beloved PM about him today.
We wonder who is telling all Malaysians the “TRUTH but nothing must be the TRUTH” in thisTsunami wave in Sabah today.
UMNO President or SAPP President ????????
SAPP President …14 points are TRUE here ? or
UMNO President….said pending to reveal personal greeds of SAPP President coming soon?
Last but not least, Pakatan Rakyat are celebrating their 100 days Victory on June 21, 2008, but BN was hit by another big Tsunami waves from Sabah. What next in the political sandiwara of Malaysia ? What happen to the Sawarakians are still supporting Pak Lah rain or shine ?
Let read the negative effects on the economy of Malaysia when the political Tsunami hits Sabah today ?
Bursa shares are tumbling down in RED for good buy or sell? Foreign investors are staying away from parking their billions due to instability of political scenario ? Prices of major commodities are increasing in world markets, high prices of foods are here to stay, devaluation of RM agains other major currencies like Kuwaiti Dinar, SGD and USD, anger of people are boiling hot with prices hike daily due announcements by business people ……many other negative comments by both sides of the political groups.
We, PR Malaysians are getting richer by days when our Kuwaiti Dinar is getting stronger when RM is getting weaker (i.e 1KwDinar= RM12.26). Our Arabian investment is getting profitable with currency exchange of 1SGD = RM2.38 today.
We, PR Malaysians are concerned and showed our sincere support to all Malaysians regardless of races and religions. You are the JUDGE today. InsyAllah !!
“IN ALLAH WE TRUST”
Regards,
Al-Sheikh Ahmeed Al-Malmudi Fuad
(Retired) Senior Fuel Engineer & Analyst
A CONCERNED PR MALAYSIAN
#31 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 1:05 am
SAPP and its chief Yong Teck Lee are not waiting for counter offer. Otherwise they would have negotiated behind scenes and not have gone public & by inflicting irreparable damage pass the point of no return. It looks like a two-step move, first an announcement of intent to move motion of no confidence – see what happens- and then to be followed by Sapp pulling out of or otherwise kicked out by BN.
Opportunistic greed is always a factor but they’re not trying luck here but acting in concert with unseen hand of DSAI who has stitched certain arrangements – for eg PKR’s commitment to Sabahans, bumiputera and otherwise, include 20 percent oil royalties to Sabah, Sarawak and Terengganu, as well as proportionate and just representation for Sabah and Sarawak within PR- specifics of which I doubt DAP/PAS or its leaders are privy.
PAS information chief and Pokok Sena MP Mahfuz Omar response : “I’m not sure what Sapp’s agenda is. Is their dissatisfaction targeted at Abdullah or is it at BN? I am still waiting to know their reasons”
Guan Eng just as confused – “How could one maintain their loyalty to BN while at the same time move a motion of no confidence against the coalition’s top leader? It’s confusing and unusual.”
YB Kit : “The Parliamentary Standing Orders do not have special provision for a no confidence motion”.
Contrast this to what Anwar said: “I have had two discussions previously with Sapp president Yong Teck Lee…The core issues at hand are those of good governance and dedication to the principles of accountability… PKR’s commitment to Sabahans, bumiputera and otherwise, include 20 percent oil royalties to Sabah, Sarawak and Terengganu, as well as proportionate and just representation for Sabah and Sarawak. (Note : he said PKR’s commitment – not Pakatan Rakyat’s commitment)…I am happy with these early actions and call upon other friends to act quickly…”
And Selangor menteri besar and Bandar Tun Razak MP Khalid Ibrahim said “As part of Pakatan Rakyat, of course we welcome the participation of a new member into the group. But we will work together towards establishing a more people-oriented Malaysia. SINCE I CANNOT REVEAL ANY MORE OR COMMENT ON THIS ANY FURTHER, the message will be passed to the public among other things during the festivities of our 100 days celebration”.
Source : Malaysiakini Soon Li Tsin & Athi Veerangan | Jun 18, 08 7:36pm.
#32 by malaysi0n on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 1:22 am
this shows SAPP really work for Sabah PEOPLE …. you’re in a ship called BN which is now cracking … either repair it or pull your people out to another ship(PR) …. you still want to be in the carcked ship??
#33 by Richardqed on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 3:05 am
It looks like AAB has nothing in answer to the reasons given by the SAPP as to why they are planning to move a no-confidence motion against him.
All he’s got to say is Yong Teck Lee is a greedy guy, and why Yong has initiated this etc.
Come on, AAB, this is not the way to gain the rakyat’s confidence. Refute the points brought up by the SAPP if you can.
#34 by doggone on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 4:23 am
Yes, I believe that SAPP is trying to bait the BN MP’s objections and the Speaker’s refusal to table the motion to get an excuse to leave the coalition. Knowing AAB’s as a person who hold a grudge, there will be no further discussion on ‘giving more’ to Yong’s demands. I am very sure SAPP will announce their plan to leave the BN coalition before the month ends.
#35 by HJ Angus on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 5:41 am
SAPP could be just the catalyst for more parties to make similar moves.
Guess the others will wait to see if they are expelled which I think will happen.
But I don’t think this small party’s action will cause the government to fall.
#36 by tourman53 on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 6:20 am
To all the BN strong supporters,
What are you all waiting for? The founder of the ‘Wawasan 2020′(vision 2020) has left the party.
For those who’re still dreaming wake up !! Join BR.
#37 by Ah Deng on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 6:24 am
One more issue – do you guys know that POS Malaysia Berhad belongs to ECM Libra? Who is boss of this ECM Libra? Rupa-rupanya, Son in law of our beloved Pak Lah…..That’s explain the reason why all fuel subsidies must be given to Pos Malaysia for distribution to rakyat so they can hisap darah of rakyat…that’s their nature, don’t blame them but we can kick their assssssss.
#38 by Kathy on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 6:40 am
It is pointless for us to want the current PM to step down. As far as I can see, it is an internal matter for BN. Better have AAB than others at this moment is how I feel.
Why should be get politicians from the component parties of BN to join PR? Haven’t they taken out of the Rakyat’s coffers more than enough already????? It would be better to select those that are capable and more transparent in their dealings to join – no to blanket invitation to these component members.
Can we have back Chua Soi Lek as the Health Minister? At least someone from MCA is actually doing a good job before the leaders decided to take him out – that shows how shallow his own party leaders are.
#39 by k1980 on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 7:22 am
SAPP will find it impossible to raise the motion on Monday because both the ordinary and substantive motions require a member of parliament to give sufficient notice to the House.
Fourteen days’ notice is required for an ordinary motion, and two days for a substantive motion.
So Yong’s threat is just for show. Under the mamak, he and his gang would be under house arrest by now.
#40 by hotsync on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 7:34 am
AAB still sleeping ZZZzzzzzZZZZZ I dunno? Too Late now. Lets wait until Friday. The news channel clearly showed the state of Sabah that is in poverty and ruins. Pictures showed a true bumiputra using bamboo to collect and store water, muddy roads, ghost town and worst still crowded with millions of Project IC pendatang. Indeed the situation is getting worst. We need to make a stand and thats what SAPP did! Empty promises.
Mums can’t afford milk powder to feed their babies living in the so called billion dollar corridor. People face with inflation, higher living standards. Are we better off today?
After the 40% fuel hike now want to abolish toll, road tax, excise tax on cars???? First AAB claimed that fuel subsidy is hurting the country but now his gov can start proposing so called “winning” suggestions to bring back confidence to the BN party. Doesnt make sense at all Flip-Flop gov. AAB and his bunch of stooges really think that the rakyat is stupid indeed. They cut us up then try to “heal” us using bits of handyplast here and there.
No vote of confidence from me too!
#41 by BlackEye on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 7:41 am
“Whether the SAPP no confidence motion is tabled and debated in Parliament on Monday, its very announcement has set off political shock waves in the country….” YB Kit
Good for Malaysian politics and democracy.
#42 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 7:59 am
Kasim Amat:
I for one don’t care if SAPP succeeds in toppling your beloved leader Badawi or not. I don’t care if Yong Teck Lee had an agenda of personal greed, as alleged by your beloved leader. I just want you to answer this question:
Just when your beloved leader Badawi announced a 40+ pct hike in fuel prices, the AP committee chaired by Najis agreed to issue 1200 APs to an UMNOputera crony and a friend of KJ’s. At RM 30,000 per AP, this comes to RM 36 million.
Your beloved leader promised transparency, so can you ask him to tell us who the other “lucky” recipients of APs are in the current year ? Are you going to condemn the issuance of APs as “nothing more than personal greed”?
#43 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 8:15 am
In the unlikely event that the vote of no confidence succeeds, we should expect the PM to just resign. He is not going to ask the King to dissolve Parliament and hold fresh general elections. That would be bad news for the ruling coalition.
#44 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 8:30 am
BN will be trounced badly if elections were to be held today. They should just cut their losses, and dump the Sleepy Head. Unfortunately Najis just doesn’t have the b@lls to precipitate it.
#45 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 8:38 am
Kathy Says:
Today at 06: 40.13 (1 hour ago)
It is pointless for us to want the current PM to step down. As far as I can see, it is an internal matter for BN.”
Why is it “pointless” for Malaysians who have no confidence in their Prime Minister wanting him to step down? There is every point to want to resolve the leadership crisis within the ruling party, to prevent the administration from being mired in lackadaisical management of the nation’s problems. How could that be an internal matter for the party to resolve and no one else’s? It doesn’t make sense.
A vote of no confidence if it comes usually comes from the opposition and rarely from the ruling party. But occasionally it does.
In this particular case, Abdullah Badawi is likely to resign and not seek the Agong’s consent for a fresh general elections. The likely person to succeed him is his deputy and that is according to convention.
#46 by robert wong on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 8:52 am
Couldn’t agree more with ANAK MALAYSIA . Not all politicians are good listeners. Ordinary genuine Sabahan ( not Sabah BN politicians) has been suffered for as long as UMNO started set it’s foot on Sabah soil. YTL is taking avantage of the once-for-life-time opportunity to start the ‘snow-ball’ rolling. The climate is just right for making the snow-ball.
#47 by seage on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 9:06 am
YTL and Pigi Lah has both taken a step of no return. While YTL mentioned his intention/statement, it is still rectifiable by Pigi Lah, but once Pigi Lah said the following, it seals the fate of the road-of-no-return to both:
PUTRAJAYA: Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi says Sabah Progressive Party (SAPP) President Datuk Yong Teck Lee’s latest action has been due to the fact that “I have not been able to satisfy his personal greed.”
Why is that so? When Pigi Lah said “I have not been able to satisfy his personal greed.”, it also implies that Pigi Lah usually will satisfy personal greed, just that YTL personal greed is too great for him to satisfy. It is as good as Pigi Lah admitting to his usual modus operandi in governing via satisfying greed (Greed being defined as excessive desire to acquire or possess more than one needs or deserves).
It would be suffice for Pigi Lah to say that “He has acted out of sheer greed”, rather than admitting his inability to satisfy such greed. Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. It only goes so much to tell that Pigi Lah is a person who will not hesitate to dish out “goodies” (As was demonstrated lately) to fulfill his own motives (political or otherwise).
So lets see what he has to say “on a later date”. Be it another tsunami or not (fingers crossed), Malaysians are definitely being given free tickets to watch reality movies one after the other.
Makkal Sakhti!
#48 by Bigjoe on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 9:09 am
From all the issues raised about whether a no-confidence vote can be tabled or not even as the news break, I am wondering if SAPP Yong and the MPs understood it when they made their decision.
Its important because it calls into question what they were thinking of. If they knew it and decided to do this then its clear Yong is playing his own game separate from what Anwar and PR has in mind. The drama is far from over.
But if they did not realise it, then it calls into question whether their plans are well-thought out or not. Will we see mass defection in Sabah followed by other states?
#49 by k1980 on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 9:10 am
It is pointless for us to want the current PM to step down—-
Take the analogy of Chiang Kai shek not being forced out by Mao. Then China today would be like Afghanistan and Myanmar combined, a military dictatorship lording over an opium-striken population of billions, where famine and conflict stalk the land, colonised and plundered by foreign powers.
#50 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 9:12 am
seage:
We all know that Badawi has been trying to satisfy people’s personal greed from Day One ! Starting with his family.