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	<title>Comments on: Continue Teaching Science and Mathematics in English</title>
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		<title>By: ummahzy</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/14/continue-teaching-science-and-mathematics-in-english/comment-page-3/#comment-112990</link>
		<dc:creator>ummahzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an American citizen teaching English in Malaysia, I have witnessed the unfortunate consequences of a policy that seems to have been implemented “without necessary preparation.”  From the start, I have empathized with both the students and the teachers.

CLIL (Content Language Integrated Learning) is now one of the new buzzwords, or acronyms, in English language training. CLIL is teaching subjects such as science, and Mathematics to students through a foreign language (i.e. English in Malaysia). CLIL can be performed by the English teacher using ‘real’ content (i.e. algebra or biology) or the subject teacher using English. Both methods result in the simultaneous learning of content and English.  

The goal is to make the student proficient in both the foreign language and the subject area, for example English plus Math and Science.  To reach this goal, it is necessary for the English teachers to be aware of the areas taught by the subject teachers.  The work of the English teacher should help prepare students to keep pace in the Math and Science class.

I think that with training (of English and content area teachers), Malaysia can produce graduates who are ready for the workforce and able to compete academically and professionally on an international level.

Furthermore, I'd like to use this blogpost as an opportunity to say thank you to Malaysians of all races for accepting me into their classrooms and giving me the privilege of sharing my mother tongue with them.  I came to Malaysia with the intention of staying for two months and have been here for almost four years now.  I stayed because of all the opportunities here for me to work and develop professionally, but especially to help others.   

I hope that the Malaysian authorities will do their part in developing and implementing policies that will make Malaysia a land of opportunity for Malaysians!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an American citizen teaching English in Malaysia, I have witnessed the unfortunate consequences of a policy that seems to have been implemented “without necessary preparation.”  From the start, I have empathized with both the students and the teachers.</p>
<p>CLIL (Content Language Integrated Learning) is now one of the new buzzwords, or acronyms, in English language training. CLIL is teaching subjects such as science, and Mathematics to students through a foreign language (i.e. English in Malaysia). CLIL can be performed by the English teacher using ‘real’ content (i.e. algebra or biology) or the subject teacher using English. Both methods result in the simultaneous learning of content and English.  </p>
<p>The goal is to make the student proficient in both the foreign language and the subject area, for example English plus Math and Science.  To reach this goal, it is necessary for the English teachers to be aware of the areas taught by the subject teachers.  The work of the English teacher should help prepare students to keep pace in the Math and Science class.</p>
<p>I think that with training (of English and content area teachers), Malaysia can produce graduates who are ready for the workforce and able to compete academically and professionally on an international level.</p>
<p>Furthermore, I&#8217;d like to use this blogpost as an opportunity to say thank you to Malaysians of all races for accepting me into their classrooms and giving me the privilege of sharing my mother tongue with them.  I came to Malaysia with the intention of staying for two months and have been here for almost four years now.  I stayed because of all the opportunities here for me to work and develop professionally, but especially to help others.   </p>
<p>I hope that the Malaysian authorities will do their part in developing and implementing policies that will make Malaysia a land of opportunity for Malaysians!</p>
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		<title>By: trublumsian</title>
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		<dc:creator>trublumsian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've heard many ethnic Chinese telling me what they want is an education system like Singapore's, with a touch of Bahasa added into it. In order to really compete on even keel on the world labor market, Singapore is way ahead in foreseeing and prepping the young minds for it. Now, Malaysia should retain its lingual identity, granted, and whatever school formats the Chinese and Indians are asking for should include ample immersion of the language. Young minds are capable in learning 3 languages in parallel if you allow them. Don't hold back the inclined and diligent ones just because the less motivated ones can't keep up. That said, we suspect THAT is exactly what the politicos today are up to, in the name of affirmative action. And speaking of affirmative action, is Malaysia the only country who subscribe to the notion of it being for a majority people??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard many ethnic Chinese telling me what they want is an education system like Singapore&#8217;s, with a touch of Bahasa added into it. In order to really compete on even keel on the world labor market, Singapore is way ahead in foreseeing and prepping the young minds for it. Now, Malaysia should retain its lingual identity, granted, and whatever school formats the Chinese and Indians are asking for should include ample immersion of the language. Young minds are capable in learning 3 languages in parallel if you allow them. Don&#8217;t hold back the inclined and diligent ones just because the less motivated ones can&#8217;t keep up. That said, we suspect THAT is exactly what the politicos today are up to, in the name of affirmative action. And speaking of affirmative action, is Malaysia the only country who subscribe to the notion of it being for a majority people??</p>
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		<title>By: lopez</title>
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		<dc:creator>lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i say let the malays study their malay in malay medium schools, let the tamils study in their tamil medium schools and let the chinese study in their chinese medium schools.

And of course let us have the good old english medium schools 
and let their parents decide for themsleves.
The government is there to faciliate that this is want of the people, so be it.

If you are keen to know what about national interest and competitiveness, i say man,it is already in place as a nation, we have people who are multi tongue and it is of internationale repute.

So where is it so difficult for those so call policy makers, dumb or have hidden agendas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i say let the malays study their malay in malay medium schools, let the tamils study in their tamil medium schools and let the chinese study in their chinese medium schools.</p>
<p>And of course let us have the good old english medium schools<br />
and let their parents decide for themsleves.<br />
The government is there to faciliate that this is want of the people, so be it.</p>
<p>If you are keen to know what about national interest and competitiveness, i say man,it is already in place as a nation, we have people who are multi tongue and it is of internationale repute.</p>
<p>So where is it so difficult for those so call policy makers, dumb or have hidden agendas.</p>
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		<title>By: trublumsian</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/14/continue-teaching-science-and-mathematics-in-english/comment-page-3/#comment-111337</link>
		<dc:creator>trublumsian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>typo corrected:

2. A well-oiled engine. A people that is (gulp!) united - concussively (I meant to say conducive-ly)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>typo corrected:</p>
<p>2. A well-oiled engine. A people that is (gulp!) united - concussively (I meant to say conducive-ly)</p>
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		<title>By: trublumsian</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/14/continue-teaching-science-and-mathematics-in-english/comment-page-3/#comment-111336</link>
		<dc:creator>trublumsian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So here's my story, and folks can tell me what WENT right that can be applied to our once promising country. Ok, or what went wrong..?   :P

Anyways, I split my primary ed years between Singapore and Malaysia (a Chinese school in Seremban). My sec ed was in a Malay school, although I converse with my buddies in Cantonese outside of earshot. I did well in my SPM, but apparently not good enough for a spot in a local U. I got a B3 in Bahasa btw. UCLA took me without me begging, and Berkeley did too when I knocked on their MBA program. No, I'm not rich, I had to pay off loans for 3 years. Nor am I Einstein reincarnated, I just function under a no-free-lunch mentality. Anyhoo, my 4 years in an English/Chinese medium prepped me for life. My sec years were spent learning the maths and sciences in BM. I had no problems adapting them to my college years. You see, teaching these subjects in English is not the cure, but the immersion of English during formative years, IS. Subjecting students to 2, 3, or 4 classes of English or in English will not help much. Providing an environment to speak and use it will. In the past 8 years, I've been sent to manage shop by 3 different Fortune 100's in places like Japan, China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Mexico, and the UK. I can't help but attribute that to my ability to speak and write in eloquent English and the many forms of the Chinese language. That, in turn allows one to pick up other languages like Espanol with a little more head start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So here&#8217;s my story, and folks can tell me what WENT right that can be applied to our once promising country. Ok, or what went wrong..?   <img src='http://blog.limkitsiang.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyways, I split my primary ed years between Singapore and Malaysia (a Chinese school in Seremban). My sec ed was in a Malay school, although I converse with my buddies in Cantonese outside of earshot. I did well in my SPM, but apparently not good enough for a spot in a local U. I got a B3 in Bahasa btw. UCLA took me without me begging, and Berkeley did too when I knocked on their MBA program. No, I&#8217;m not rich, I had to pay off loans for 3 years. Nor am I Einstein reincarnated, I just function under a no-free-lunch mentality. Anyhoo, my 4 years in an English/Chinese medium prepped me for life. My sec years were spent learning the maths and sciences in BM. I had no problems adapting them to my college years. You see, teaching these subjects in English is not the cure, but the immersion of English during formative years, IS. Subjecting students to 2, 3, or 4 classes of English or in English will not help much. Providing an environment to speak and use it will. In the past 8 years, I&#8217;ve been sent to manage shop by 3 different Fortune 100&#8217;s in places like Japan, China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Mexico, and the UK. I can&#8217;t help but attribute that to my ability to speak and write in eloquent English and the many forms of the Chinese language. That, in turn allows one to pick up other languages like Espanol with a little more head start.</p>
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		<title>By: trublumsian</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/14/continue-teaching-science-and-mathematics-in-english/comment-page-3/#comment-111332</link>
		<dc:creator>trublumsian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How bout this for some introspecting on why some countries do well using non-English..... basically, only those who meet 1 of these 2 criteria need apply:

1. Size. A population that is huge will have the opportunity to use critical mass to function wholesome in a cocoon. I.e. China, Japan, and arguably the EU.

2. A well-oiled engine. A people that is (gulp!) united - concussively, mind you - and has a culture of pushing each other to excel will roll, roll, and keep rolling in gathering moss. The system feeds on each other. I.e. Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, and arguably the EU. And what is the lingua franca of these countries when they're ready to explode and impose onto the global market?? No points for guessing English!

So, need Malaysia apply?
: (</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How bout this for some introspecting on why some countries do well using non-English&#8230;.. basically, only those who meet 1 of these 2 criteria need apply:</p>
<p>1. Size. A population that is huge will have the opportunity to use critical mass to function wholesome in a cocoon. I.e. China, Japan, and arguably the EU.</p>
<p>2. A well-oiled engine. A people that is (gulp!) united - concussively, mind you - and has a culture of pushing each other to excel will roll, roll, and keep rolling in gathering moss. The system feeds on each other. I.e. Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, and arguably the EU. And what is the lingua franca of these countries when they&#8217;re ready to explode and impose onto the global market?? No points for guessing English!</p>
<p>So, need Malaysia apply?<br />
: (</p>
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		<title>By: tourman53</title>
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		<dc:creator>tourman53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The govt. should bring back the English medium schools if they're really serious about the english knowledge. 
Pls don't interfere with the chinese school. A solely chinese school means  all subject must be taught in chinese except for languages. That's why they're called  Chinese school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The govt. should bring back the English medium schools if they&#8217;re really serious about the english knowledge.<br />
Pls don&#8217;t interfere with the chinese school. A solely chinese school means  all subject must be taught in chinese except for languages. That&#8217;s why they&#8217;re called  Chinese school.</p>
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		<title>By: trublumsian</title>
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		<dc:creator>trublumsian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kasim Amat et al., you need to get out of the well and smell the coffee out there a little more. Puuhleez, it's been 50 years we've been resigned to a good view of the rear ends of those around us wheezing by. Seriously, you've been victimologized for too long buddy! The less unemployables in Malaysia, as a group, has been feeding Victim-unization doses from generation on in a vicious cycle. Here's a tell-tale symptom -- self fulfilling prophecy without the heart to admit it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kasim Amat et al., you need to get out of the well and smell the coffee out there a little more. Puuhleez, it&#8217;s been 50 years we&#8217;ve been resigned to a good view of the rear ends of those around us wheezing by. Seriously, you&#8217;ve been victimologized for too long buddy! The less unemployables in Malaysia, as a group, has been feeding Victim-unization doses from generation on in a vicious cycle. Here&#8217;s a tell-tale symptom &#8212; self fulfilling prophecy without the heart to admit it.</p>
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		<title>By: damianmp</title>
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		<dc:creator>damianmp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we combine all the ideas together, we can create miracle. As a trainer of the ETeMS program, I have done all I can to deliver the goods. I have talked for many years on the implementaion of ETeMS since its started in 2002 for year 1 until 2007 for year 6. It is absolutely unfair to anticipate the product because we have just completed the cycle. But, I have made some critical observations that are really bothering me. It is a question of attitude! Unless we change our attitude we'll never accomplish our objective. It is not really a question of talent or skill because with positive attitude we can achieve our objective. Politicizing this issue does not help while some politicians practise double standard. There are so much to rectify....it will take time to recover the lost glory! My advice is, we have to continue with the program!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we combine all the ideas together, we can create miracle. As a trainer of the ETeMS program, I have done all I can to deliver the goods. I have talked for many years on the implementaion of ETeMS since its started in 2002 for year 1 until 2007 for year 6. It is absolutely unfair to anticipate the product because we have just completed the cycle. But, I have made some critical observations that are really bothering me. It is a question of attitude! Unless we change our attitude we&#8217;ll never accomplish our objective. It is not really a question of talent or skill because with positive attitude we can achieve our objective. Politicizing this issue does not help while some politicians practise double standard. There are so much to rectify&#8230;.it will take time to recover the lost glory! My advice is, we have to continue with the program!!</p>
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