Comments on: RCI on boot camp for delinquent judges - critical test of Abdullah’s political will for judicial reforms http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/ for Malaysia Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:25:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Oneworld http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/comment-page-1/#comment-110447 Oneworld Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:03:45 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/#comment-110447 The root cause is TDM. The country will not be allowed to heal and be united as one until his time is finally over! This man alone could have done so much for all Malaysia Malaysian. He could have made Malaysia into a strong, cohesive, multi-racial nation that is respected for tolerance, progress and unity. Instead, in his twilight years, it is sad and ironic that all the affection and respect that many Malaysians have for this once esteemed national leader will be washed away by revelations after revelations of corruption, nepotism and pure greed. This will be the tragic legacy of TDM. AAB is just a simpleton seduced and overwhelmed by power and is now completely lost and out of touch with the common man. He is merely the clueless pilot of a kamikaze mission. The Malaysian folklore that PMs follow the chronological alphabets of R-A-H-M-A-N looks almost certain to happen now. N-ajib will be the LAST UMNO PM of Malaysia before a new era begins. Shameful! Simply pathetic! Kick these idiots OUT! The root cause is TDM. The country will not be allowed to heal and be united as one until his time is finally over!

This man alone could have done so much for all Malaysia Malaysian. He could have made Malaysia into a strong, cohesive, multi-racial nation that is respected for tolerance, progress and unity. Instead, in his twilight years, it is sad and ironic that all the affection and respect that many Malaysians have for this once esteemed national leader will be washed away by revelations after revelations of corruption, nepotism and pure greed. This will be the tragic legacy of TDM.

AAB is just a simpleton seduced and overwhelmed by power and is now completely lost and out of touch with the common man. He is merely the clueless pilot of a kamikaze mission.

The Malaysian folklore that PMs follow the chronological alphabets of R-A-H-M-A-N looks almost certain to happen now. N-ajib will be the LAST UMNO PM of Malaysia before a new era begins.

Shameful! Simply pathetic! Kick these idiots OUT!

]]> By: dennyboy http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/comment-page-1/#comment-110274 dennyboy Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:27:49 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/#comment-110274 “Another inquiry will not reveal anything more than what we already know." Well, in that case, would you care to make public what you "already know", since it's such a matter of such grave consequences??????? “Another inquiry will not reveal anything more than what we already know.”

Well, in that case, would you care to make public what you “already know”, since it’s such a matter of such grave consequences???????

]]> By: Godfather http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/comment-page-1/#comment-110180 Godfather Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:22:30 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/#comment-110180 What Zaid and Badawi are saying is "yes, we don't need you to tell us that the judiciary needs reforms. We are already reforming it." Then they go about the business as though nothing has happened - the Court of Appeals President is still sitting pretty, judges that were compliant with Mahathir and UMNO are still there..... What a bunch of losers.... What Zaid and Badawi are saying is “yes, we don’t need you to tell us that the judiciary needs reforms. We are already reforming it.” Then they go about the business as though nothing has happened - the Court of Appeals President is still sitting pretty, judges that were compliant with Mahathir and UMNO are still there…..

What a bunch of losers….

]]> By: taiking http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/comment-page-1/#comment-110157 taiking Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:48:48 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/#comment-110157 A criminal is often charged for and convicted of a multitude of offences. He could have committed say theft several times. Each occassion would stand as a separate offence and he must be punished for each and every one of them. There is another thing. Punishment in crime serves a few purposes. First and obviously, it is to punish the wrongdoer. Secondly, it is to deter like-thinking people from committing crime. Finally, it is to keep the society free (as far as it may be practicable) of crime. At the same time the punishment must commensurate with the occassion. It does not make sense to sentence a thief to death in the like manner as a murderer; or to incarcerate him for a duration which does not reflect the severity of the wrong he had done. For then simple logic and economics would no doubt prompt him to engage only in greater crime. Speaking of severity, the number of offences committed would weigh heavily down upon the sholders of a criminal. And likewise, those with past records must be treated more severely than first-time offender. Therefore, the decision not to call an investigation into Justice Chin's disclosure is bad and does not make sense. We must know the full extent Mahathir's wrong-doings, if any. If he has committed more than one wrong, then he must be punished for each and everyone of them. And, again if there are multiple wrong-doings, the punishment to be metted out must be enhanced accordingly. The judiciary reform is another thing altogether. It can go on. It must go on. It has nothing to do with punishing the wrong-doer. The on-going reform (if this is true) cannot be a reason for not pursuing the wrong-doer. A repeat criminal could then argue that the police should investigate him for one incident only. How wonderful. How disastrous. A criminal is often charged for and convicted of a multitude of offences. He could have committed say theft several times. Each occassion would stand as a separate offence and he must be punished for each and every one of them.

There is another thing.

Punishment in crime serves a few purposes. First and obviously, it is to punish the wrongdoer. Secondly, it is to deter like-thinking people from committing crime. Finally, it is to keep the society free (as far as it may be practicable) of crime.

At the same time the punishment must commensurate with the occassion.

It does not make sense to sentence a thief to death in the like manner as a murderer; or to incarcerate him for a duration which does not reflect the severity of the wrong he had done. For then simple logic and economics would no doubt prompt him to engage only in greater crime.

Speaking of severity, the number of offences committed would weigh heavily down upon the sholders of a criminal. And likewise, those with past records must be treated more severely than first-time offender.

Therefore, the decision not to call an investigation into Justice Chin’s disclosure is bad and does not make sense.

We must know the full extent Mahathir’s wrong-doings, if any. If he has committed more than one wrong, then he must be punished for each and everyone of them.

And, again if there are multiple wrong-doings, the punishment to be metted out must be enhanced accordingly.

The judiciary reform is another thing altogether. It can go on. It must go on. It has nothing to do with punishing the wrong-doer. The on-going reform (if this is true) cannot be a reason for not pursuing the wrong-doer.

A repeat criminal could then argue that the police should investigate him for one incident only.

How wonderful. How disastrous.

]]> By: PHUAKL http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/comment-page-1/#comment-110147 PHUAKL Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:17:12 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/#comment-110147 Keep in mind the Chinese saying: "Borrowing a knife to kill someone" Keep in mind the Chinese saying:

“Borrowing a knife to kill someone”

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/comment-page-1/#comment-110118 limkamput Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:49:58 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/#comment-110118 bernadette Says: depends on what you mean by “good” marriage. what depend, depend on what? since you asked, don't you tell us? bernadette Says:
depends on what you mean by “good” marriage.

what depend, depend on what? since you asked, don’t you tell us?

]]> By: yellowkingdom http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/comment-page-1/#comment-110091 yellowkingdom Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:59:41 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/#comment-110091 Zaid had admitted that he was hearing about the “boot camp” for delinquent judges for the first time, adding that it was something that should not have happened. “This is the first time I have heard about boot camps for judges. I have no reason to doubt that the allegations are not true, unless there are people who say otherwise.” I never trust lawyers , who speak in double negatives, and yet ascribe the the responsibility to others. No offence to lawyers, but this one speaks with a forked-tongue. Remember, "sounds like me, looks like me, but unless my experts say so. I'll be the first to admit it." Zaid had admitted that he was hearing about the “boot camp” for delinquent judges for the first time, adding that it was something that should not have happened.

“This is the first time I have heard about boot camps for judges. I have no reason to doubt that the allegations are not true, unless there are people who say otherwise.”

I never trust lawyers , who speak in double negatives, and yet ascribe the the responsibility to others. No offence to lawyers, but this one speaks with a forked-tongue.

Remember, “sounds like me, looks like me, but unless my experts say so. I’ll be the first to admit it.”

]]> By: Samuel Goh Kim Eng http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/comment-page-1/#comment-110076 Samuel Goh Kim Eng Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:05:20 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/#comment-110076 Either you attend the 'corrective' boot camp Or you may get the wrong end of the sharp boot Where on earth is there still light in the lamp When the pursuit of justice ends with 'my foot'! (C)Samuel Goh Kim Eng - 120608 http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com Thur. 12th June 2008. Either you attend the ‘corrective’ boot camp
Or you may get the wrong end of the sharp boot
Where on earth is there still light in the lamp
When the pursuit of justice ends with ‘my foot’!

(C)Samuel Goh Kim Eng - 120608
http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
Thur. 12th June 2008.

]]> By: bernadette http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/comment-page-1/#comment-110075 bernadette Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:56:34 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/12/rci-on-boot-camp-for-delinquent-judges-critical-test-of-abdullahs-political-will-for-judicial-reforms/#comment-110075 "Let say a man cheats on his wife and his wife caught him once. The man ends the affair and apologise but they never talk about it and the wife never knows the whole truth. Can the marriage survive? Sure but is it a good marriage? No and never." Bigjoe depends on what you mean by "good" marriage. “Let say a man cheats on his wife and his wife caught him once. The man ends the affair and apologise but they never talk about it and the wife never knows the whole truth. Can the marriage survive? Sure but is it a good marriage? No and never.” Bigjoe

depends on what you mean by “good” marriage.

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