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	<title>Comments on: Ordeal of foreign spouses in Malaysia</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: moimoi</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/29/ordeal-of-foreign-spouses-in-malaysia/#comment-132302</link>
		<dc:creator>moimoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides taking 'donkey years' to process the PR application, those foreign spouses who are currently working and contributing to the EPF are also at a losing end! I (also a foreign spouse) has contributed to the EPF for the past 9 years and recently, I found out that non-Malaysain (who are not a PR) are not allow to without their EPF, regardless for what purpose, unless you become discapability or leave Malaysia forever! Now I can only hope that I get the PR before I retire, if not my EPF $$$ is flush down the toilet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides taking &#8216;donkey years&#8217; to process the PR application, those foreign spouses who are currently working and contributing to the EPF are also at a losing end! I (also a foreign spouse) has contributed to the EPF for the past 9 years and recently, I found out that non-Malaysain (who are not a PR) are not allow to without their EPF, regardless for what purpose, unless you become discapability or leave Malaysia forever! Now I can only hope that I get the PR before I retire, if not my EPF $$$ is flush down the toilet!</p>
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		<title>By: clearwater</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/29/ordeal-of-foreign-spouses-in-malaysia/#comment-107841</link>
		<dc:creator>clearwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 04:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pinkdolphin, 
Perhaps I was not sufficiently specific in my comment, but TheWrathOfGrapes [ I like Hemmingway too] has filled you in wrt Singapore as a choice of destination. It is probably the only suitable neighboring country to Malaysia where you can live and work in reasonable comfort. Permanent residence there is a relative breeze, provided you meet their skills requirements. And their Immigration is genuinely helpful.

elaineganm,
Things have already improved. In 1981, my Singaporean spouse at 8 plus months pregnant was denied her second extension of her 3 month social visit pass and was compelled to leave the country, notwithstanding medical advice she should not travel at this advanced stage of pregnancy. She had to take the train from Penang where I was then posted, to Singapore, take a taxi back across the Causeway, and reboard the train  at JB back to Penang. We were real concerned they would not let her enter Malaysia in her pregnant state, hence the taxi [she need not alight to have passport stamped] and not the train. Airlines won't fly advanced pregnancy women. Twenty seven years later, my wife is on annual social visit pass renewal, not 3 monthly and her PR application has been under processing the last 10 years. Contrast it with her 27 year 'child', now a chemical engineer, and a welcome PR in Australia after a wait of 8 months from date of submission. Speaks volumes, does it not, about this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pinkdolphin,<br />
Perhaps I was not sufficiently specific in my comment, but TheWrathOfGrapes [ I like Hemmingway too] has filled you in wrt Singapore as a choice of destination. It is probably the only suitable neighboring country to Malaysia where you can live and work in reasonable comfort. Permanent residence there is a relative breeze, provided you meet their skills requirements. And their Immigration is genuinely helpful.</p>
<p>elaineganm,<br />
Things have already improved. In 1981, my Singaporean spouse at 8 plus months pregnant was denied her second extension of her 3 month social visit pass and was compelled to leave the country, notwithstanding medical advice she should not travel at this advanced stage of pregnancy. She had to take the train from Penang where I was then posted, to Singapore, take a taxi back across the Causeway, and reboard the train  at JB back to Penang. We were real concerned they would not let her enter Malaysia in her pregnant state, hence the taxi [she need not alight to have passport stamped] and not the train. Airlines won&#8217;t fly advanced pregnancy women. Twenty seven years later, my wife is on annual social visit pass renewal, not 3 monthly and her PR application has been under processing the last 10 years. Contrast it with her 27 year &#8216;child&#8217;, now a chemical engineer, and a welcome PR in Australia after a wait of 8 months from date of submission. Speaks volumes, does it not, about this country.</p>
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		<title>By: elaineganmaclaine</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/29/ordeal-of-foreign-spouses-in-malaysia/#comment-107700</link>
		<dc:creator>elaineganmaclaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, voicing out how we local spouses feel and are furstrated about. 
Recently, after many months trying, my Aust husband has finally gotten his yearly employment pass/ expatriate ID which costs RM250. 
Though it is affordable, we had to go through a tiring process and procedures with JPN regulations and hidden untold paperwork which we felt unecessary.

The tiring situation was written in my blog (under Malaysia category) www.elaineganm.wordpress.com 

I do hope things will change for good, quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, voicing out how we local spouses feel and are furstrated about.<br />
Recently, after many months trying, my Aust husband has finally gotten his yearly employment pass/ expatriate ID which costs RM250.<br />
Though it is affordable, we had to go through a tiring process and procedures with JPN regulations and hidden untold paperwork which we felt unecessary.</p>
<p>The tiring situation was written in my blog (under Malaysia category) <a href="http://www.elaineganm.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.elaineganm.wordpress.com</a> </p>
<p>I do hope things will change for good, quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: pinkdolphin</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/29/ordeal-of-foreign-spouses-in-malaysia/#comment-107623</link>
		<dc:creator>pinkdolphin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear TheWrathOfGrapes,
Thank you very much for your kind thought and it is infact a great idea. I must admit that I have never thought of this option and I'm pretty sure it will make ends meet if everything goes right. I was feeling so helpless and failed to think outside the box. I will definitely discuss this option with my husband and with a bit of luck, this will be the direction we are heading to. Btw, you are right, I'm non Malay..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear TheWrathOfGrapes,<br />
Thank you very much for your kind thought and it is infact a great idea. I must admit that I have never thought of this option and I&#8217;m pretty sure it will make ends meet if everything goes right. I was feeling so helpless and failed to think outside the box. I will definitely discuss this option with my husband and with a bit of luck, this will be the direction we are heading to. Btw, you are right, I&#8217;m non Malay..</p>
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		<title>By: bernadette</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/29/ordeal-of-foreign-spouses-in-malaysia/#comment-107622</link>
		<dc:creator>bernadette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..don't be clever by half.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..don&#8217;t be clever by half.</p>
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		<title>By: bernadette</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/29/ordeal-of-foreign-spouses-in-malaysia/#comment-107620</link>
		<dc:creator>bernadette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"There is nothing wrong with the immigration law. There is nothing wrong with the enforcement. It is just a race thing. Only Malays and Muslims are wanted in MALAYsia. Period. Scream and cry and tear out your hair all you want. The fact is millions of Indonesians, legal immigrants or otherwise, will become citizens within years." Wrath of Grapes

if immigration law is enforced then how would millions of "legal immigrants or otherwise" Indonesians then become citizens"??? sure it is a "race thing" - nobody says otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is nothing wrong with the immigration law. There is nothing wrong with the enforcement. It is just a race thing. Only Malays and Muslims are wanted in MALAYsia. Period. Scream and cry and tear out your hair all you want. The fact is millions of Indonesians, legal immigrants or otherwise, will become citizens within years.&#8221; Wrath of Grapes</p>
<p>if immigration law is enforced then how would millions of &#8220;legal immigrants or otherwise&#8221; Indonesians then become citizens&#8221;??? sure it is a &#8220;race thing&#8221; - nobody says otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: yellow</title>
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		<dc:creator>yellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm married to an Indonesian chinese. I wont even bother wasting my money applying PR for my wife. The money is better used applying for PR in other countires. I will be leaving this shithole of a country for good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m married to an Indonesian chinese. I wont even bother wasting my money applying PR for my wife. The money is better used applying for PR in other countires. I will be leaving this shithole of a country for good.</p>
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		<title>By: lupus</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/29/ordeal-of-foreign-spouses-in-malaysia/#comment-107584</link>
		<dc:creator>lupus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you remember, BN release some figures of Malaysia, broken down by race, who have left Malaysia.  Take the advice of BN - no matter how  you can contribute to the country, you are not wanted.  I am a Malaysia who tried to contribute before they had this stupid program to attract overseas Malaysian - I was back and tried to do it without strings attached.  

Guess what - after 2 years of getting stuffed around, I left and glad that I did.  Overseas countries are benefiting from my expertise and I am getting a rewarding career.  My advice, do not go to where you are not wanted.  If Malaysia does not want you, leave.  If she truly wants you, they will move mountains to get your  spouse a PR/citizenship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you remember, BN release some figures of Malaysia, broken down by race, who have left Malaysia.  Take the advice of BN - no matter how  you can contribute to the country, you are not wanted.  I am a Malaysia who tried to contribute before they had this stupid program to attract overseas Malaysian - I was back and tried to do it without strings attached.  </p>
<p>Guess what - after 2 years of getting stuffed around, I left and glad that I did.  Overseas countries are benefiting from my expertise and I am getting a rewarding career.  My advice, do not go to where you are not wanted.  If Malaysia does not want you, leave.  If she truly wants you, they will move mountains to get your  spouse a PR/citizenship.</p>
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		<title>By: sotong</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/29/ordeal-of-foreign-spouses-in-malaysia/#comment-107576</link>
		<dc:creator>sotong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont mind balik cina - bernadette.

Sounds like if you don't the way the country is grossly mismanaged and abused, go back to cina or india!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont mind balik cina - bernadette.</p>
<p>Sounds like if you don&#8217;t the way the country is grossly mismanaged and abused, go back to cina or india!!</p>
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