The use of thugs to assault residents of Bandar Makhota Cheras protesting against the barricade put up by the toll concessionaire, Grand Saga and the connivance of the police not only in its “hands-off” policy during the rampage by the thugs, but in going on a rampage of its own when some 20 police personnel armed assaulted an innocent bystander, Chang Jiun Haur, must be condemned in the strongest possible terms.
An independent public inquiry into the spate of physical violence against the protesting public by thugs and police personnel is fully warranted.
DAP MP for Serdang, Teo Nie Ching will be raising the issue in Parliament tomorrow.
#1 by blablowbla on Wednesday, 28 May 2008 - 11:31 pm
wat on earth are these federal reserved units doing?they should confront the thugs in that manner,not the innocent youngman!
i cant believe it,if he has done something wrong,just handcuff him,isnt it the way?
#2 by cancan on Wednesday, 28 May 2008 - 11:41 pm
It is very obvious for all to see that the help rendered by the police is very lopsided.
It is very hard to believe that this is happening in Malaysia.
Can we survive together as a nation?
Link: http://www.kingsmary.blogspot.com/
#3 by TC33 on Wednesday, 28 May 2008 - 11:42 pm
Against all odds, the road block was again removed by the residents and the road was re-opened one hour ago. Self-help is the best solution…
Now that BMC road closure has become a national frontpage issue, the state gomen (30% share holder of Grand Saga) better make sure that the road will not be closed again for the sake of its own image.
#4 by TC33 on Wednesday, 28 May 2008 - 11:56 pm
The Serdang MP must ensure (even through horse trading or whatever means) that the issue will be debated, or else please refund my RM50 donated to her PRU 12 campaign. It’s difficult to make even RM50 these days.
#5 by cheng on soo on Wednesday, 28 May 2008 - 11:56 pm
We are regressing into ’4th world country ‘ , the police, FRU no better than those in Sudan, Zimbabwe, Somalia, Sierra Leone, etc.
sad for the Chang JH !! can he take legal action against police ???
#6 by limkamput on Wednesday, 28 May 2008 - 11:57 pm
Do we still have governments in Malaysia – whatever, federal, state or local????? This is the national entropy! Politicians plays politics, the rakyat suffer. No winder most despise politicians.
#7 by bernadette on Wednesday, 28 May 2008 - 11:58 pm
“wat on earth are these federal reserved units doing?they should confront the thugs ..”
don’t you know that the thugs are FRUs when not in uniform??
#8 by yhsiew on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 12:01 am
The culprit that recruited thugs to use violence against the residents must be prosecuted. A group of Malays (thugs) assaulting a group of Chinese (residents) could easily flare into a racial riot. Had not the authorities learned a lesson from the Kampung Medan incident?
I believe a “dirty hand” was playing a political game in the Bandar Mahkota Cheras violence.
#9 by bernadette on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 12:03 am
don’t stoke the flames of racial hatred! everybody will get burnt!
#10 by TC33 on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 12:04 am
Weeks past, blood shed and now suddenly MB Khalid realises that his gomen owns 30% share in Grand Saga and therefore he can actually press the other shareholders to act more nicely. He’s sleeping or what before today?
#11 by devilmaster on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 12:54 am
i am not surprised if the thugs turned out to be the law enforcers.
#12 by katdog on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 12:56 am
TC33,
Maybe cause MB Khalid doesn’t read LKS’s blog?
One wonders what is PR’s plans on the BMC issue, or do they even have a plan to begin with. Debating in parliament and organizing protests may be fun and all but i am not sure if thats gonna get you results. You are not gonna sway the federal government and ministries with charismatic arguments.
Was there no comittee set up to investigate the issue and list down all the possible solutions and scenarios? Consider all legal implications and list down all the possibilities in order to overcome any liability? Did no one sit down to plan a solution?
Or was the DAP people to busy blaming the government and organising protests? Look, accept the fact that the fed is not gonna give in to your demands no matter how well you argue. Or else they will lose face and credibility. You can continue to do so to put up a show, but you better damn well be doing something more besides that.
Maybe you should stop attacking the problem head on by just protesting and blaming the government. Maybe you guys need to think outside the box.
#13 by ppsbmy on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 1:19 am
If I broke the law, I’m innocent until proven guilty. FRU can bash up a guy without any proof of wrongdoing?!? Why is no investigation into what happened & punishment dole out?
Please sue the government.
#14 by Klaw on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 1:29 am
Read somewhere that Ronnie Liu mentioned that Selangor government will be getting Kajang Municipal Council to dismantle the barrier tomorrow.
I wonder if that is going to happen, cuz it seems like the state government does not have any teeth. I’m waiting to be proven wrong.
#15 by harrisonbinhansome on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 1:31 am
Zainal Abidin Ali, the executive director of Grand Saga, is non-other than the former police chief of Dang Wangi!
The most fearful criminals in Malaysia is not the organized crooks and gangsters but the Police itself.
Malaysia has become a Police State long ago.
Polis Diraja Malaysia= Gestapo of Adolf Hitler
And both scratches their masters backs and vice-versa.
#16 by tunglang on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 1:38 am
This bloody affair should be stopped immediately, starting with Grand Saga. Is it warranted in Malaysia to use thugs to protect one’s corporate interest against citizens who are already hard-pressed to make a decent living?
This sordid going-on looked very one-sided against the Rakyat of Bandar Makhota Cheras who have every right to protest against dirty corporate interest and heavy-handed tactics.
What has happened also showed what bad reputation our ‘Royal’ Polis intends to carry on.
The chain of event last night makes us question in whose interests the authority has in mind.
Rakyat’s opinion is:
1) The Polis is as Samseng as those thugs who went on rampage against the residents. Just see for yourself how Polis reacted against innocent bystanders like back lane hounds.
2) Grand Saga has the authority’s ‘blessing to punish’ Rakyat of Bandar Makhota Cheras.
3) The delayed action (on purpose) to remove the unwarranted barriers set up by Grand Saga who will never be prosecuted in court. Just count how many times were barriers intentionally set up since day one of troubles?
4) This is a politically motivated scheme to cause hardship by any means. PR beware!
Pak Lah, are your ears listening to the cries of Bandar Makhota Cheras?
#17 by Elwin Heng on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 1:43 am
Recently, through press/TV, happy to hear that our minister claimed we(as voter) play an important role on election, just like VIP -&- THEY will sincere listen and resolve our issues. but…
@Bdr Mahkota Cheras, what we’d seen was how many BMC ppl injured -& heart broken! Would like to ask, where are you/THEY -& ~how to contribute and fight4 our rights and benefits? WHAT A GOOD HEART BREAKER!?
Update by new MB-Selangor, state government owned 20% of Gr.Sg.
Doubts on why (TRUST U, VOTE U) ex-yb/MP ~if you/THEY always claimed the best and good servicing BMC ppl, shouldn’t you `take.k our rights & benefits, action like our hon.PR YB/MP`?
Confuse me, WHO ARE THEY(named as GANGSTER or pretend they are!)? WHAT IS THEIR MOTIVE, WITH ANY ORDER or AUTHORITY? ~so wild-fears, show up, warn & attack BMC ppl!:
~assumption, We’re THEY;
:without any benefit, will you dare challenge Malaysia laws, or else, as volunteer?
^IF THEY AREN’T GANGSTER, THEN WHO ARE THEY?^
~movie.drama, ‘important portion nothing, when it happened -ending, so coincidently show-up?! when govn.servant came, should THEY action against GANGSTER rather than ‘halau’ BMC ppl?
^WHAT’S NEXT ACTION AGAINST GANGSTER(gs) MEMBERS?^
~since our technology so advanced(*spent million$ to plant), why can’t identify (gs) face/body figure/others through MyKad~Pendaftaran Negara.
“Money issue, refuse re-open road? allow me be the 1st to donate RM1 as 4ur loses! Might be follow by others; please note, 1st-&-last time we give-&-take, must re-open the road! don’t shut it down again!?. #Politic statistic again?, come on, give me a break! help me!”
Warmest regards,
TQ.
#18 by monsterball on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 5:09 am
Lets hope…the government have the decency..to stop all these…..before anyone get killed!
I suspect…if it is in an area..with weak and sensitive residents….and especially…involving one race,,,the Muslims…the UMNO government will solve the matter fast….pleasing everyone.
#19 by 318 on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 6:46 am
The BMC case was the same as the former Senai toll. The only trunk road to JB. In the first why are these poice there.Who the hell those guy who act against the residents. Can the IGP explain who gave the order to disperse the risedents and not the GANGSTERS. If not only the useless abb to resign, you too have to go.To all the BN fellos .there still some idiot fools M’sian but not all of them. PLEASE REMEMBER YOU ALL ARE THE SLAVE OF THE RAKYAT. DON’T EVER THINK YHE RAKYAT VOTE YOU ALL, YOU ALL BECOME YA-YA.PLEASE USE YOUR BRAIN TO THINK WHAT I WROTE HERE.
#20 by cvl on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 7:32 am
The general mind set of the police has been endowed by training aspects handed down from that era when the British then were bogged down in the Emergency Period, pre and post immediate independence of Malaysia.
Those were times the authorities look upon suspicion every other person, citizen or not and regardless race, who sort of ‘resist’ the flow of societal norms. As you can see, this mind set requires ‘to suspect’ and in order to be effective and survive, be in an adversarial mode when confronting the public.
Such is the background and is deeply embedded in the police training aspects, and present time police instructors are only second generation trainers who had the ‘full’ benefit of the first generation who saw the Emergency period live. One will have merry surprises just by looking at some of the police so called manual and standing orders – how archival qualities they are.
Certainly, the future for the police attitude is to work with the public, and let the public have the benefit of a doubt. In Malaysia, it is mostly public taxes that are used to partly if not fully fund the police salaries, wages and benefits.
We as the public owe this to ourselves to educate the police mindset.
#21 by miketan142 on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 8:02 am
I think the behaviour of the police especially the lower ranks still needs a lot to be desire. Their reasons of being in the force may be for the easy pickings. Unless the public perception of the force is commendable, it will always attracts 2nd rate recruits.
#22 by bentoh on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 8:49 am
# TC33 Says:
Yesterday at 23: 56.45
The Serdang MP must ensure (even through horse trading or whatever means) that the issue will be debated, or else please refund my RM50 donated to her PRU 12 campaign. It’s difficult to make even RM50 these days.
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Then maybe you should apply the withdrawal right now… :D
I’m pretty sure the deputy speaker or the speaker will tell her… this issue doesn’t need immediate debate/action…
well… typical rubberstamp parliament… :)
#23 by ktteokt on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 9:05 am
Do the pay checks of these FRU come from Grand Saga? Otherwise, why are they acting so biasly???
#24 by Godfather on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 9:10 am
Grand Saga has publicly denied that the thugs who used violent means against the residents were hired by them. It doesn’t take much to verify this statement from Grand Saga – someone must have paid these agent provocateurs who have been caught in the act on video.
#25 by lakilompat on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 9:17 am
“Do the pay checks of these FRU come from Grand Saga? Otherwise, why are they acting so biasly???”
Well, 1st of all these are modern military who stick to military rule, in ancient time there are many cases whereby emperor or general will trick the military by faking the rules to suppress revolt or revolting themselves.
The FRU are merely obeying the constitution. The leader of the FRU off course will use the excuse that they are obeying their duty to serve and restore public order. Well this can also create more chaos like the tibetan cases.
In any of this case nobody is wrong, one is using the legal loopholes the grandsage, FRU, etc. The Cheras Mahkota people are fighting for justice which is not specifically noted in the clauses.
#26 by Tickler on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 9:24 am
One section of the police could be supporting Grand saga:
I was disturbed no end to read that the Executive Director of Grand Saga is none other than a former Dang Wangi police chief (incidentally a station I know about than I wish I did).
http://jelas.info/2008/05/27/former-cop-behind-grand-saga-violence-mongering/#comments
#27 by Tickler on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 9:25 am
Another section does not:
Kajang OCPD Asst Comm Shakaruddin Che Mood, who was also present, was hoisted up by several residents who lauded his support for their cause.
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/5/29/nation/21392629&sec=nation
#28 by Tickler on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 9:26 am
So definitely investigations into the police action need to be carried out.
#29 by Damocles on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 9:30 am
Uncle Lim, make notes of the misdeeds in this matter as well as others. Better still, have video recordings made.
The time will come when the BN will be history. Then, it will be payback time.
Once the PR is in power, have a complete revamp of the police, making sure only those will pristine records will get the top posts. Similarly, with the army.
Then start prosecuting ALL those past and present “leaders” who committed misdeeds to the fullest extent of the law.
Also, don’t be shy to use the ISA!
Give them a dose of their medicine before sloshing it down the drain!
#30 by justice_fighter on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 9:52 am
The most useless Prime Minister Pak Lah who has remained silent so far and allowed the matter turned into violence should be SACKED!! He is still busy enriching himself and his cronies. All matters affecting the country and people are thrown behind his brain. WHAT A SHAME PAK TONG SAMPAH-LAH!!
#31 by cheng on soo on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 10:07 am
In all fairness, this BMC problems (cause by who U know !) is not easy to solve, those affected, pls have more patient, PR state govt is not superman etc.
Those who hv taken a top post of a big company (say 1000 employee or more), or a big building projects (worth RM 1000 million or more), will know, that he / she needs a lot time to work out all the problems
#32 by Killer on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 10:25 am
Hi YB
Are you sleeping again ? Please come down to Planet Earth.
I am glad that after a few of us started to question on this, you finally remembered it and started a thread. However, your post is so out of date that it is laughable. The police is no longer the villain and DAP reps are no longer the hero.
Also instead of focusing on the real issue and solving the problem, you again reverted to the “philosophy of loser” by conveniently choose to attack the police instead.
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More roars of support ensued later when Selangor CPO Deputy Comm Datuk Khalid Abu Bakar, who visited the spot, told the residents that he had advised Grand Saga to stop any construction of barricades in the area.
He said the public would be inconvenienced each time Grand Saga built the barricade. DCP Khalid also urged the Malaysian Highway Authority and the Public Works Department to settle the matter and come up with an amicable solution.
He also urged the elected representative not to incite the residents.
Kajang OCPD Asst Comm Shakaruddin Che Mood, who was also present, was hoisted up by several residents who lauded his support for their cause.
He also persuaded residents to remove several toppled boulders that were blocking cars going into the Bandar Tun Hussein Onn access road.
Several residents then pooled together RM900 to get the job done, saying that a third of the sum would be for the lorry’s petrol while the rest would be used to buy food.
#33 by Bobster on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 10:30 am
Grand Saga, satu lagi GRAND SHAMELESS PROJECT OF BARISAN NASIONAL.
Rakyat Malaysia patiently watching … we are just waiting for DSAI to take over the Federal and send those Sampah Negara to you-know-where. Sooner better!
Grand Saga, satu lagi disgraceful project of Barisan Nasional!
#34 by Bobster on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 10:39 am
Can DAP/PKR/PAS arrange for fund raising to help to those Grand Saga victims?
If you can do that for Myanmar, China & Indonesia believe rakyat Malaysia can do for our own brothers & sisters, can’t we?
#35 by Wisdom above on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 11:01 am
To YB LKS,
FRUs are not Police Officers.
My respect to FRUs had drop to ‘zero’, “0″.
I hope good & well respected Police officers should speak out against the wrong procedures, “rules of engagements”.
Syabas.
#36 by Tickler on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 11:05 am
“Cops cruelly & viciously brutalise BMC resident – will there be action??”
A high-ranking police officer at the scene claimed that Chang had run over a FRU personnel with his car.
“He asked for it. He ran over a policeman and he got what he deserved,” the officer told Malaysiakini a few minutes after the incident.
Asked to identify the person who was hit by the car, the officer had initial difficulty in persuading the individual to come forward.
When he did so, the man – who appeared unscathed – claimed: “He tried to run me over… look at my baton, it is broken. What more evidence do you want?”
However, a police officer who took Chang to the Kajang Hospital said none of the personnel had been hit by the car.
http://jelas.info/2008/05/28/cops-cruelly-viciously-brutalise-bmc-resident-will-there-be-action/#comments
#37 by Tickler on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 11:07 am
“Former cop behind Grand Saga violence-mongering?”
http://jelas.info/2008/05/27/former-cop-behind-grand-saga-violence-mongering/#comments
#38 by penang308 on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 11:09 am
BRAVO CHERAS RESIDENTS!
I SALUTE YOU ALL!
#39 by lupus on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 11:20 am
This should not have become this far. Blame game should stop and yes, the police had lost control of the situation if it needed the FRU in the first place. While it is true that the police should not shoulder the full blame of it, the role of the police force is to maintain and enforce the law. In this case, it had failed to do so by allowing
1) Grand Saga to block a public road (which I check was still illegal)
2) Grand Saga to build another road block on public road and allowing criminals/thugs to roam around.
We should not fully blame the police – part of the blame should be with the State Govt and while they have only been in power for a little over 2 months MUST be on the ball – considering that the last Govt basically have left a nice mess for the new Govt. It would be good if the new Govt can provide the public the agreement that Grand Saga seems to be under the impression that they can block off a public road. Meanwhile, I would like to know what this new administration have achieved after 100 days.
Meanwhile, while our Malaysian Police is doing an excellent job, I would like to know why did the police lose control of the entire situation to the point where the FRU were needed ? We should make an inquiry, learn from it and NOT LET IT REPEAT AGAIN.
#40 by oedipus on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 11:24 am
dear killer, maybe you revere YB Lim as a god or demi-god and that is why you expect him to be all knowing and all present.
i think you should not worship YB Lim like that and accept that he also has 24 hours a day just like you and i. pls regard him as a human being and stop your fascination with him.
the very fact that he got a post up is better that many other political bloggers (opposition or BN) who has nothing better to do but to demand our PM to step down ‘all the time’ and sidestepping the need and the predicament of the rakyat. but from the looks of it, its BN that is currently too engrossed in their self vanity and foregoing the plight of the rakyat.
#41 by lovemalaysiaforever on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 11:36 am
Is the authorities in parliament listening with their ears to their rakyat at the very first place???? The answer is “No”.
Then rakyat should turn down the existing governance in the parliament because they are so deaf…
C4 case has still no answer, so voilences also can be done to our public lar…to them it is just a small treat isn’t it?
Look at those bullies thugs, they are so obvious looks like they are belongs from the police force departments..aren’t they??
The police security force in Malaysia is just to take care of the wealthy and powerful welfares only and it is all the time practice…
#42 by lakilompat on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 11:39 am
It’s so funny this Ezam going back to UMNO is in the front page, why so important if UMNO leader not giving any priviledge yet put it on front page?
“Former Parti Keadilan Rakyat Youth leader Ezam Mohd Nor is back in Umno. Umno president Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said he welcomed Ezam’s return to the party but he (Ezam) was not promised any party position or privileges.”
Trojan war is beginning?
#43 by yhsiew on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 11:40 am
Just remove the barricade put up by Grand Saga, Pak Lah will care.
#44 by bentoh on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 11:44 am
# oedipus Says:
Today at 11: 24.46 (12 minutes ago)
dear killer, maybe you revere YB Lim as a god or demi-god and that is why you expect him to be all knowing and all present.
i think you should not worship YB Lim like that and accept that he also has 24 hours a day just like you and i. pls regard him as a human being and stop your fascination with him.
the very fact that he got a post up is better that many other political bloggers (opposition or BN) who has nothing better to do but to demand our PM to step down ‘all the time’ and sidestepping the need and the predicament of the rakyat. but from the looks of it, its BN that is currently too engrossed in their self vanity and foregoing the plight of the rakyat.
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Re: Killer
Just to echo to the quote… it seems like in your theory… Uncle Kit has to blog about everything in the country…
come to think of it… if he is to write about every single issue on this land called Malaysia… I’ll have hard time following this blog… ;)
and what do you think YB from Cheras, Serdang and etc are not doing? :)
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Anyway… the urgent motion tabled by Ms. Teo Nie Ching was rejected by deputy speaker because the issue is “not urgent”… according to Mr. Tony Pua… :)
#45 by Damocles on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 11:47 am
When he did so, the man – who appeared unscathed – claimed: “He tried to run me over… look at my baton, it is broken. What more evidence do you want?” – Tickler
For a start, police batons or any other batons are made of hardwood.
It’ll take a tremendous amout of force to break it. If the car hit the officier with enough force to break his baton, it will definitely have enough force to cause him serious injury or even death!
The fact that only his baton is broken and he is unscathed, shows that there’s something fishy.
#46 by Hishamuddin on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 11:54 am
20 FRU Police Officer beating up 1 innocent man, this is like Zimbabwe.
The FRU or Police Officers think they are above the law and no one can take action against them. YB Lim, please tell they the law.
When the citizen take the law into their own hands and beat up a snatch thief, the police warn the people against taking action on their own. Now they are doing it ? What’s next ?
When the police take the action against the people what does the Chief Police and our PM or even DPM have to say to this ? All have been silence on this ? Silence means Condolence to this violence ??????
#47 by Hishamuddin on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 11:55 am
This show how Bolehland “Police at work” .
#48 by Hishamuddin on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 11:58 am
In some country the Chief Police Office would already have resign by now.
In here, he will say, ” SO WHAT ? MAKE MY DAY, I’ll Be BACK “
#49 by Hishamuddin on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 12:30 pm
LAST QUESTION
IS THE FRU AND POLICE OFFICES INVOLVED IN THIS GETTING AWAY SCOTT FREE ???
If it is, then this be become a LAWLESS COUNTRY UNDER OUR BOLEHLAND PM AAB ?
#50 by Tickler on Thursday, 29 May 2008 - 12:48 pm
There are probably some 10 or so urgent motions which has been denied the chance to see the light of day in the House. So far the most frequently use reason for rejection is “not urgent” – be it urgent medical treatments on ISA detainees (not urgent), death to National Service detainees (not urgent) or death under police custody (only very few such cases).
…Today, the Deputy Speaker once again rejected SERDANG’s motion, that is to debate the police action and inaction over the Bandar Mahkota Cheras – Grand Saga toll controversy, which has resulted in individuals being hurt by thugs in full police presence and another being beaten up by some 20 police officers. This issue has hit the headlines over the past 3 days or so.
http://tonypua.blogspot.com/2008/05/urgent-motion-denied-denied-denied.html