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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rainbowseahorse</title>
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		<dc:creator>rainbowseahorse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 03:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we all should go through the documents pertaining to the lease of Sabah (North Borneo) from the Sultan of Sulu (lease documents of North Borneo by Charles Lee Moses, Baron Von Overbeck, the British North Borneo Chartered Company, onto being a British Crown Colony, and to being part of the Federation of Malaysia) and then decide whether it's worth fighting for the rights of Sabah (under Malaysia). If the matter is to be taken to the ICJ and is ruled against Malaysia, as I have surmised it might, then we Sabahans should perhaps start lobbying for Sarawak to take on selective Sabah migrants into Sarawak. 
Perhaps this issue of “rightful owner of Sabah” has prompted the Federal Government to ‘tidak apa’ attitude as they know Malaysia will eventually lose Sabah to the rightful owner. If that document is authentic (at http://www.royalsulu.com), and the Malaysian government does pay an annual rent of USD1,500 to the heirs of the sultan of Sulu for Sabah, then if the case is to go to the ICJ, Malaysia will have no leg to stand on over the issue. 

My fellow Sabahans, I suggest we start applying to migrate to Sarawak and leave these MPs to help run Sabah down to the level of the Southern Philippines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we all should go through the documents pertaining to the lease of Sabah (North Borneo) from the Sultan of Sulu (lease documents of North Borneo by Charles Lee Moses, Baron Von Overbeck, the British North Borneo Chartered Company, onto being a British Crown Colony, and to being part of the Federation of Malaysia) and then decide whether it&#8217;s worth fighting for the rights of Sabah (under Malaysia). If the matter is to be taken to the ICJ and is ruled against Malaysia, as I have surmised it might, then we Sabahans should perhaps start lobbying for Sarawak to take on selective Sabah migrants into Sarawak.<br />
Perhaps this issue of “rightful owner of Sabah” has prompted the Federal Government to ‘tidak apa’ attitude as they know Malaysia will eventually lose Sabah to the rightful owner. If that document is authentic (at <a href="http://www.royalsulu.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.royalsulu.com</a>), and the Malaysian government does pay an annual rent of USD1,500 to the heirs of the sultan of Sulu for Sabah, then if the case is to go to the ICJ, Malaysia will have no leg to stand on over the issue. </p>
<p>My fellow Sabahans, I suggest we start applying to migrate to Sarawak and leave these MPs to help run Sabah down to the level of the Southern Philippines.</p>
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		<title>By: i_love_malaysia</title>
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		<dc:creator>i_love_malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 04:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Killer &#38; all those who bougth the idea that only Sabahans MPs  are qualified to resolve the illegal immigrants issues in Sabah should consider the following two points before continue with their arguments:-

1. Sabah MPs had been given 30 years and there's no action and results so far. Don't you think it is timely for others to help to resolve the problem? especially the problem is affecting all Malaysian regardless of the state where we come from.

2. The federal govn. is taking 95% of SABAH's petrol money instead of 5% . So the federal govn. should have the duty to solve at least 95% of Sabah's problems, this includes the illegal immigration problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Killer &amp; all those who bougth the idea that only Sabahans MPs  are qualified to resolve the illegal immigrants issues in Sabah should consider the following two points before continue with their arguments:-</p>
<p>1. Sabah MPs had been given 30 years and there&#8217;s no action and results so far. Don&#8217;t you think it is timely for others to help to resolve the problem? especially the problem is affecting all Malaysian regardless of the state where we come from.</p>
<p>2. The federal govn. is taking 95% of SABAH&#8217;s petrol money instead of 5% . So the federal govn. should have the duty to solve at least 95% of Sabah&#8217;s problems, this includes the illegal immigration problems.</p>
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		<title>By: myint3</title>
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		<dc:creator>myint3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 13:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Humanly, 

No offence taken, don't worry. We hope that the components within Pakatan Rakyat can work together to bring betterment for all Malaysians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humanly, </p>
<p>No offence taken, don&#8217;t worry. We hope that the components within Pakatan Rakyat can work together to bring betterment for all Malaysians.</p>
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		<title>By: humanly</title>
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		<dc:creator>humanly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 06:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myint3,

Syabas, syabas. Am very proud of your spirited concern and perjuangan demi rakyat Sabah. I noted your response to my comment in another entry. Hope you are not offended by my cariculturing Sabahans as docile based on my anecdotal experience with them. Most of them have issues but dare not stand up to be counted.

I agree with your opinion on Dr Chong En Leong. It's to Sabah loss that he never got elected to the DUN or Dewan Rakyat. A man who is not afraid of going against the tide of his party.

In one election, he stood against Yong Teck Lee in Likas. He then filed an election petition challenging the results and won. This caused Yong's disqualification to contest.

Dr Chong's unsuccessful stint in politics is due to his membership with the wrong parties. Cos of his character, he was never in the good book of the party's top leadership.

It's almost impossible for a non-BN to win Likas precisely cos of the large 'phantom voters' from Pulau Gaya.

Dr Chong does not speak on the platform of race but across the spectrum of Sabah interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myint3,</p>
<p>Syabas, syabas. Am very proud of your spirited concern and perjuangan demi rakyat Sabah. I noted your response to my comment in another entry. Hope you are not offended by my cariculturing Sabahans as docile based on my anecdotal experience with them. Most of them have issues but dare not stand up to be counted.</p>
<p>I agree with your opinion on Dr Chong En Leong. It&#8217;s to Sabah loss that he never got elected to the DUN or Dewan Rakyat. A man who is not afraid of going against the tide of his party.</p>
<p>In one election, he stood against Yong Teck Lee in Likas. He then filed an election petition challenging the results and won. This caused Yong&#8217;s disqualification to contest.</p>
<p>Dr Chong&#8217;s unsuccessful stint in politics is due to his membership with the wrong parties. Cos of his character, he was never in the good book of the party&#8217;s top leadership.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost impossible for a non-BN to win Likas precisely cos of the large &#8216;phantom voters&#8217; from Pulau Gaya.</p>
<p>Dr Chong does not speak on the platform of race but across the spectrum of Sabah interests.</p>
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		<title>By: myint3</title>
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		<dc:creator>myint3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 02:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To kerishamuddinitis, that is Killer's opinion and he is entitled to. I am a Sabahan and as you see in my posts here, I welcome Uncle Lim to speak up for us. As certain that Killer is not the only one to have such a stand, so it is with my stand also. There are other Sabahans like me who welcome Uncle Lim's help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To kerishamuddinitis, that is Killer&#8217;s opinion and he is entitled to. I am a Sabahan and as you see in my posts here, I welcome Uncle Lim to speak up for us. As certain that Killer is not the only one to have such a stand, so it is with my stand also. There are other Sabahans like me who welcome Uncle Lim&#8217;s help.</p>
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		<title>By: myint3</title>
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		<dc:creator>myint3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 01:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another report in today's The Daily Express:
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ENG LEONG BLAMES MAX FOR OUTCOME

Dr Chong also criticised his party Deputy President, Datuk Maximus Ongkili for not supporting the effort to resolve the problem of illegal immigrants in Sabah. 

"I have reasons to believe that he was running around Sabah MPs to vote against the motion for this RCI, telling them to toe the line as if he had the clout to influence them." he said. 

Meanwhile, Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR) said it was shameful for any Sabahan leader who did not seek ways and opportunity to help crystallise the establishment of the RCI. 

PKR Sabah deputy chief, Daniel John Jambun, said the Deputy Speaker Datuk Ronald Kiandee had failed Sabahans by likening the proposal in Parliament to establish the royal inquiry to being "disrespectful" and "unpolite" to the King. 

"The least Sabahan leaders like Kiandee could do is to choose the correct words when dealing with such a disgusting perennial problem of PTI in Sabah, or else be registered as among those who stood in the way of solving this problem. 

"What is so disrespectful and unpolite about getting a paragraph on PTI in the motion of thanks to the King's speech in Parliament?,"he asked in a statement, Friday.
________________________________________________________

SO Uncle Lim and brethren in the West, the fight is on over here. Sabahans are not taking it lying down. But that doesn't mean that we don't welcome any help from our brethren in the West. This is family problem that involves all the brothers and sisters in this household we call Malaysia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another report in today&#8217;s The Daily Express:<br />
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ENG LEONG BLAMES MAX FOR OUTCOME</p>
<p>Dr Chong also criticised his party Deputy President, Datuk Maximus Ongkili for not supporting the effort to resolve the problem of illegal immigrants in Sabah. </p>
<p>&#8220;I have reasons to believe that he was running around Sabah MPs to vote against the motion for this RCI, telling them to toe the line as if he had the clout to influence them.&#8221; he said. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR) said it was shameful for any Sabahan leader who did not seek ways and opportunity to help crystallise the establishment of the RCI. </p>
<p>PKR Sabah deputy chief, Daniel John Jambun, said the Deputy Speaker Datuk Ronald Kiandee had failed Sabahans by likening the proposal in Parliament to establish the royal inquiry to being &#8220;disrespectful&#8221; and &#8220;unpolite&#8221; to the King. </p>
<p>&#8220;The least Sabahan leaders like Kiandee could do is to choose the correct words when dealing with such a disgusting perennial problem of PTI in Sabah, or else be registered as among those who stood in the way of solving this problem. </p>
<p>&#8220;What is so disrespectful and unpolite about getting a paragraph on PTI in the motion of thanks to the King&#8217;s speech in Parliament?,&#8221;he asked in a statement, Friday.<br />
________________________________________________________</p>
<p>SO Uncle Lim and brethren in the West, the fight is on over here. Sabahans are not taking it lying down. But that doesn&#8217;t mean that we don&#8217;t welcome any help from our brethren in the West. This is family problem that involves all the brothers and sisters in this household we call Malaysia.</p>
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		<title>By: myint3</title>
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		<dc:creator>myint3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 01:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a report on the front page of The Daily Express(one of Sabah's local newspaper which West Malaysians wouldn't have access to) today:
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DISAPPOINTING, SAYS ENG LEONG

Kota Kinabalu : The rejection of the motion for the establishment of a Royal Commission of Inquiry on Sabah Illegal Immigrants in Parlianment on Thursday is disappointing, said Parti Bersatu Sabah Supreme Council member, Dr Chong Eng Leong.

He said the motion should have been allowed and supported by the Sabah MPs because "it is not anti-Barisan Nasional nor pro Pakatan Rakyat but a matter of defending the sovereignty of Sabah within malaysia".

In a statement, Friday, Dr Chong said the counter proposal by Datuk Anifah Aman to set up the Parliamentary Select Committee to solve Sabah Problems might not succeed(see main story).

This was based on past experience like the committee chaired by Tan Sri Bernard Dompok "when there was a directive from the higher-ups not to cooperate", he said. 

"So what guarantee can we get that the issue will be solved? We have experienced before that the Parliamentary Select Committee (on Integrity) did not work so why not just for for the Royal Commission of Inquiry(RCI),"he asked. 

He said now that Sabah and Sarawak appear to be keeping the Barisan Nasional government from collapsing they should be brave enough to expose the Project IC.

"Aren't we all patriotic to Malaysia? To solve this we need strong political will starting from the State Government, PBS has two State Cabinet members both of whom were very local (*sic*. I think type error, I think it should be vocal) when in opposition. 

"Can't they reason with(Chief Minister) Datuk Seri Musa Aman on this? What is there to hide? Then reason with the Prime Minister," he said.

"We took part in the formation of Malaysia primarily to safeguard security and sovereignty. Who shall eb the next Prime Minister to solve Sabah's woe if the present one is still procastinating?" he asked.

Dr Chong said just after the election Datuk Seri Abdullah Badawi had stated he had heard what the people wanted him to hear. 

"Perhaps, he had heard Sabah's voice also but his heart is not with us. The Prime Minister's only concern is the peninsula. I don't believe he would do anything concrete to solve this.

"We must make sure the next Prime Minister has the will to help us." he said. 
_______________________________________________________

FYI, Dr Chong is not an MP but he is in PBS's Supreme council. He is a staunch advocate against the presence of Illegal Immigrants. 

He certainly did not mince his word hahaha.. Notice what he tacitly implied at the last paragraph of the report? :) 

He was not one of the Katak, so he's ok in my book. I hope he doesn't get into too much trouble for being vocal. He even took a swipe on his boss, Datuk Pairin and Dr Yee Moh Chai. The two state cabinet Minister he mentioned. 

Uncle Lim, maybe you should invite him over to DAP Sabah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a report on the front page of The Daily Express(one of Sabah&#8217;s local newspaper which West Malaysians wouldn&#8217;t have access to) today:<br />
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DISAPPOINTING, SAYS ENG LEONG</p>
<p>Kota Kinabalu : The rejection of the motion for the establishment of a Royal Commission of Inquiry on Sabah Illegal Immigrants in Parlianment on Thursday is disappointing, said Parti Bersatu Sabah Supreme Council member, Dr Chong Eng Leong.</p>
<p>He said the motion should have been allowed and supported by the Sabah MPs because &#8220;it is not anti-Barisan Nasional nor pro Pakatan Rakyat but a matter of defending the sovereignty of Sabah within malaysia&#8221;.</p>
<p>In a statement, Friday, Dr Chong said the counter proposal by Datuk Anifah Aman to set up the Parliamentary Select Committee to solve Sabah Problems might not succeed(see main story).</p>
<p>This was based on past experience like the committee chaired by Tan Sri Bernard Dompok &#8220;when there was a directive from the higher-ups not to cooperate&#8221;, he said. </p>
<p>&#8220;So what guarantee can we get that the issue will be solved? We have experienced before that the Parliamentary Select Committee (on Integrity) did not work so why not just for for the Royal Commission of Inquiry(RCI),&#8221;he asked. </p>
<p>He said now that Sabah and Sarawak appear to be keeping the Barisan Nasional government from collapsing they should be brave enough to expose the Project IC.</p>
<p>&#8220;Aren&#8217;t we all patriotic to Malaysia? To solve this we need strong political will starting from the State Government, PBS has two State Cabinet members both of whom were very local (*sic*. I think type error, I think it should be vocal) when in opposition. </p>
<p>&#8220;Can&#8217;t they reason with(Chief Minister) Datuk Seri Musa Aman on this? What is there to hide? Then reason with the Prime Minister,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>&#8220;We took part in the formation of Malaysia primarily to safeguard security and sovereignty. Who shall eb the next Prime Minister to solve Sabah&#8217;s woe if the present one is still procastinating?&#8221; he asked.</p>
<p>Dr Chong said just after the election Datuk Seri Abdullah Badawi had stated he had heard what the people wanted him to hear. </p>
<p>&#8220;Perhaps, he had heard Sabah&#8217;s voice also but his heart is not with us. The Prime Minister&#8217;s only concern is the peninsula. I don&#8217;t believe he would do anything concrete to solve this.</p>
<p>&#8220;We must make sure the next Prime Minister has the will to help us.&#8221; he said.<br />
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<p>FYI, Dr Chong is not an MP but he is in PBS&#8217;s Supreme council. He is a staunch advocate against the presence of Illegal Immigrants. </p>
<p>He certainly did not mince his word hahaha.. Notice what he tacitly implied at the last paragraph of the report? <img src='http://blog.limkitsiang.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>He was not one of the Katak, so he&#8217;s ok in my book. I hope he doesn&#8217;t get into too much trouble for being vocal. He even took a swipe on his boss, Datuk Pairin and Dr Yee Moh Chai. The two state cabinet Minister he mentioned. </p>
<p>Uncle Lim, maybe you should invite him over to DAP Sabah.</p>
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		<title>By: robert wong</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 23:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All Sabah BN MPs are scum-bags , they don't represent the majority of the genuine sabahans aspirations , they were put into power by  bogust voters ie illegal immigrants who possess  double nationalities. What Sabah urgently needed are new breed of young and vibrant politicians who are able to bring fresh ideas and clean politics back to Sabah . The present BN politicians are too corrupted to be called YB. The present BN YBs are not genuine to tackling the illegal immigrant issue , all they are harping is to get more political milage and projects for their cronies and themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All Sabah BN MPs are scum-bags , they don&#8217;t represent the majority of the genuine sabahans aspirations , they were put into power by  bogust voters ie illegal immigrants who possess  double nationalities. What Sabah urgently needed are new breed of young and vibrant politicians who are able to bring fresh ideas and clean politics back to Sabah . The present BN politicians are too corrupted to be called YB. The present BN YBs are not genuine to tackling the illegal immigrant issue , all they are harping is to get more political milage and projects for their cronies and themselves.</p>
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