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	<title>Comments on: It was 30 years ago that I first raised the problem of illegal immigrants in Sabah</title>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-3/#comment-106077</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 15:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bernadette, please read in context. What i meant was even if Sdr Lim is an opportunist, it is for a worthy cause. I missed the word &quot;if&quot; there. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bernadette, please read in context. What i meant was even if Sdr Lim is an opportunist, it is for a worthy cause. I missed the word &#8220;if&#8221; there. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: bernadette</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-3/#comment-106059</link>
		<dc:creator>bernadette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 12:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Even Sdr Lim is an opportunist...&quot; linkamput

waaah! yb kit is an opportunist?? this is a derogatory word to use &#039;cos it suggests he has no principles!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Even Sdr Lim is an opportunist&#8230;&#8221; linkamput</p>
<p>waaah! yb kit is an opportunist?? this is a derogatory word to use &#8216;cos it suggests he has no principles!</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-3/#comment-106052</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 11:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps I should say &quot;would not be happy to be surrounded by &quot;Yes&quot; men who disagree with him on the issues but merely make comments solely to please&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps I should say &#8220;would not be happy to be surrounded by &#8220;Yes&#8221; men who disagree with him on the issues but merely make comments solely to please&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-3/#comment-106050</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 10:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point I was making was Kit would not be pleased to have &quot;Yes&quot; men around him. I believe one of his aims in providing this platform was to get some feedback from his constituents and followers and supporters including those who disagree with him on the issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point I was making was Kit would not be pleased to have &#8220;Yes&#8221; men around him. I believe one of his aims in providing this platform was to get some feedback from his constituents and followers and supporters including those who disagree with him on the issues.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-3/#comment-106048</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 10:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Please don’t say we are mere “yes men” to Sdr Kit.&quot; limkamput

Let&#039;s not mislead readers into thinking that I did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Please don’t say we are mere “yes men” to Sdr Kit.&#8221; limkamput</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not mislead readers into thinking that I did.</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-3/#comment-105972</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 02:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Undergrad2, 
I think we must hold true to what we believe. If we agree with an issue, we agree. If we disagree, then we disagree. To say that we all think alike on the illegal immigrants issue is not fair. It is obviously clear to most that the problem in Sabah needs resolution fast, one way or another.  Killer is just talking nonsense, paid for by vested interest groups perhaps.  

Please don’t say we are mere “yes men” to Sdr Kit. I hope you have read my posts with regard to election of deputy speakers and how at least 17 PK MPs have shown to be bodoh sombong.  I took off my glove, you remember? And I am still waiting for the declaration of assets by all the PK controlled states. Why still nothing happen?  Do they need Federation Government approval for doing that?  One more, if you want to read the stupid statements made by Elizabeth Wong, the State Exco for Environment of Selangor, please go here:  limkamput – nincompoop.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Undergrad2,<br />
I think we must hold true to what we believe. If we agree with an issue, we agree. If we disagree, then we disagree. To say that we all think alike on the illegal immigrants issue is not fair. It is obviously clear to most that the problem in Sabah needs resolution fast, one way or another.  Killer is just talking nonsense, paid for by vested interest groups perhaps.  </p>
<p>Please don’t say we are mere “yes men” to Sdr Kit. I hope you have read my posts with regard to election of deputy speakers and how at least 17 PK MPs have shown to be bodoh sombong.  I took off my glove, you remember? And I am still waiting for the declaration of assets by all the PK controlled states. Why still nothing happen?  Do they need Federation Government approval for doing that?  One more, if you want to read the stupid statements made by Elizabeth Wong, the State Exco for Environment of Selangor, please go here:  limkamput – nincompoop.blogspot.com</p>
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		<title>By: pkrian</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-3/#comment-105964</link>
		<dc:creator>pkrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 01:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Killer Says: 

Yesterday at 19: 01.51 
What should be done about Sabah’s problems ? How the hell would I know ? I am just a common man.

I am neither a MP or a public servant to try to solve the problem of Sabah. That’s why we elect a govt every 5 years to represent us and to solve the problems that facing the nation.

And if you want to know more about the problem and background, just “google” it my friends.&quot;

since you feel something need to be changed and some other person has &quot;failed&quot; to change it, pls devote yourself onto the field and change it. no point sitting on the fence and putting blame on people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Killer Says: </p>
<p>Yesterday at 19: 01.51<br />
What should be done about Sabah’s problems ? How the hell would I know ? I am just a common man.</p>
<p>I am neither a MP or a public servant to try to solve the problem of Sabah. That’s why we elect a govt every 5 years to represent us and to solve the problems that facing the nation.</p>
<p>And if you want to know more about the problem and background, just “google” it my friends.&#8221;</p>
<p>since you feel something need to be changed and some other person has &#8220;failed&#8221; to change it, pls devote yourself onto the field and change it. no point sitting on the fence and putting blame on people.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-3/#comment-105957</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 00:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mahathir will be too proud to claim diplomatic immunity.  His style is typically &quot;Make My Day&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mahathir will be too proud to claim diplomatic immunity.  His style is typically &#8220;Make My Day&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-3/#comment-105955</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 00:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If Mahathir were to be in the US, he would already be in jail for crimes against humanity.&quot; GODFATHER

He would first ask the U.S. Attorney General how he got his law license before claiming diplomatic immunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If Mahathir were to be in the US, he would already be in jail for crimes against humanity.&#8221; GODFATHER</p>
<p>He would first ask the U.S. Attorney General how he got his law license before claiming diplomatic immunity.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-3/#comment-105954</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 00:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If TDM made is career in Chess, he would be a grandmaster or if he were in US he would be the director of the CIA.&quot; year of snake


If he were a chess player, he would try to deceive you into thinking he has a attack up his sleeve when in actual fact he has no clue as to what is happening! Then if it were a touch-move 2 min-game, he would say you touch your piece when you didn&#039;t. If everything else fails he would say he could triple fork your piece!

That&#039;s Mahathir. Fortunately he doesn&#039;t know how to play chess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If TDM made is career in Chess, he would be a grandmaster or if he were in US he would be the director of the CIA.&#8221; year of snake</p>
<p>If he were a chess player, he would try to deceive you into thinking he has a attack up his sleeve when in actual fact he has no clue as to what is happening! Then if it were a touch-move 2 min-game, he would say you touch your piece when you didn&#8217;t. If everything else fails he would say he could triple fork your piece!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s Mahathir. Fortunately he doesn&#8217;t know how to play chess.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-3/#comment-105951</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 00:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Mahathir were to be in the US, he would already be in jail for crimes against humanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Mahathir were to be in the US, he would already be in jail for crimes against humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: year of snake</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-3/#comment-105950</link>
		<dc:creator>year of snake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 23:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one thing which I totally agree with Killer is that TDM is the person responsible for the state of the illegal immigrants BTW the majority of them are now legal with Mycards. If TDM made is career in Chess, he would be a grandmaster or if he were in US he would be the director of the CIA. This cunning strategist with his undercover operatives in the Sabah government slice and mould current Sabah situation into such a state regarding the illegal immigrants that it is virtually impossible to solve as the figure is not tens of thousands but hundreds of thousands to a million.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one thing which I totally agree with Killer is that TDM is the person responsible for the state of the illegal immigrants BTW the majority of them are now legal with Mycards. If TDM made is career in Chess, he would be a grandmaster or if he were in US he would be the director of the CIA. This cunning strategist with his undercover operatives in the Sabah government slice and mould current Sabah situation into such a state regarding the illegal immigrants that it is virtually impossible to solve as the figure is not tens of thousands but hundreds of thousands to a million.</p>
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		<title>By: kerishamuddinitis</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-3/#comment-105949</link>
		<dc:creator>kerishamuddinitis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 22:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, KILLER&#039;s logic is a good way to keeping out of trouble and we can learn something from Killer afterall. See, on Malaysian Death Camps, basically his arguement was, &#039;enquiry, enquiry, enquiry&#039; first BEFORE taking a drastic (and, in his view, nonsensical) move to shut down the program. Almost all of the rest of us said, after 21 deaths, &#039;enough is enough, SHUT DOWN NOW, then enquire all you want!&#039;

On Sabah, Killer is saying, &#039;RCI not neccessary, let gomen do what they ARE already doing to solve this&#039; despite it being already a decades old issue, and no solution has been forthcoming from the gomen. The rest of the majority (including quite a number of our Sabah brethren) on these threads are saying, &#039;Kit&#039;s RCI is the way to go to finally nail the problem, forcing the Sabah MP&#039;s to do what they must to stop the rot at home.&#039;

Thank you, Killer, I will henceforth apply this strategy of yours at work. Like this, can avoid any sort of responsibility, not have to assume any do any work beyond the immediate &#039;must do, otherwise sure die&#039; and not have to commit to any position AND STILL come out totally unscathed. Wonderful! 

Is there a Sun Tzu somewhere in Killer&#039;s strategy?

Frankly, as I understand it from all the opinions expressed,
Kit&#039;s RCI would while it brought the issue out into the open (just like Lingamgate) for all the nation to understand and register, it could well also tear BN assunder and, as KILLER said, &#039;topple the gomen.&#039;

I don&#039;t mind either or both really!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, KILLER&#8217;s logic is a good way to keeping out of trouble and we can learn something from Killer afterall. See, on Malaysian Death Camps, basically his arguement was, &#8216;enquiry, enquiry, enquiry&#8217; first BEFORE taking a drastic (and, in his view, nonsensical) move to shut down the program. Almost all of the rest of us said, after 21 deaths, &#8216;enough is enough, SHUT DOWN NOW, then enquire all you want!&#8217;</p>
<p>On Sabah, Killer is saying, &#8216;RCI not neccessary, let gomen do what they ARE already doing to solve this&#8217; despite it being already a decades old issue, and no solution has been forthcoming from the gomen. The rest of the majority (including quite a number of our Sabah brethren) on these threads are saying, &#8216;Kit&#8217;s RCI is the way to go to finally nail the problem, forcing the Sabah MP&#8217;s to do what they must to stop the rot at home.&#8217;</p>
<p>Thank you, Killer, I will henceforth apply this strategy of yours at work. Like this, can avoid any sort of responsibility, not have to assume any do any work beyond the immediate &#8216;must do, otherwise sure die&#8217; and not have to commit to any position AND STILL come out totally unscathed. Wonderful! </p>
<p>Is there a Sun Tzu somewhere in Killer&#8217;s strategy?</p>
<p>Frankly, as I understand it from all the opinions expressed,<br />
Kit&#8217;s RCI would while it brought the issue out into the open (just like Lingamgate) for all the nation to understand and register, it could well also tear BN assunder and, as KILLER said, &#8216;topple the gomen.&#8217;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind either or both really!</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-3/#comment-105942</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 20:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ooops that apparently was not by &quot;killer&quot;. LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooops that apparently was not by &#8220;killer&#8221;. LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-3/#comment-105941</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 20:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This blog entry seems to be dedicated to one idiotic commoner called killer. You guys give him too much credit than he deserves.&quot; killer




I believe this blog is set up to generate a discussion of the issues raised by the blogger. 



No opinion is stupid however diametrically opposed to yours. Opinions are just that - opinions.



We do not take kindly to any attempt by the BN run government to stifle political dissent through the use of legislation. We take to the streets to prove our point. And yet when someone expresses his opinion on the issues, we ask that he shut up or worse leave the blog or be booted out!



Could this be a glimpse of things to come when PR takes over the government?



It is fair that only  seditious comments  be deleted but deleted only because it could land the blogger into legal and political trouble with the authorities – not for any other reason.





This blog would be the poorer if we do not welcome diverse opinions on the issues. Imagine how dull the blog would be if the likes of limkamput and killer and shamshul annuar are not allowed to express their opinions. Limkamput is at his best (minus his tendencies to go ‘un-civil’ with his comments the moment somebody does) when he challenges others to prove him wrong. Lately he has become very docile.



What we read today  mostly are  shades of the same opinion. How boring! Surely someone somewhere has a different opinion.


Imagine if Kit were to one day be the Prime Minister. Imagine if he is surrounded by a group of “Yes” men. That would be a great disservice to him and to the country. Surely he cannot be doing everything right! I believe he’d be the first to appreciate the honesty and the courage shown by members of his inner cabinet in standing up to him and say he’s wrong on an issue. 



That was what must have happened to Mahathir when he was Prime Minister. He got to hear what others thought he wanted to hear and not what he needed to hear. Some close aide must have whispered to him that he was right, that Malaysia is an Islamic state!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This blog entry seems to be dedicated to one idiotic commoner called killer. You guys give him too much credit than he deserves.&#8221; killer</p>
<p>I believe this blog is set up to generate a discussion of the issues raised by the blogger. </p>
<p>No opinion is stupid however diametrically opposed to yours. Opinions are just that &#8211; opinions.</p>
<p>We do not take kindly to any attempt by the BN run government to stifle political dissent through the use of legislation. We take to the streets to prove our point. And yet when someone expresses his opinion on the issues, we ask that he shut up or worse leave the blog or be booted out!</p>
<p>Could this be a glimpse of things to come when PR takes over the government?</p>
<p>It is fair that only  seditious comments  be deleted but deleted only because it could land the blogger into legal and political trouble with the authorities – not for any other reason.</p>
<p>This blog would be the poorer if we do not welcome diverse opinions on the issues. Imagine how dull the blog would be if the likes of limkamput and killer and shamshul annuar are not allowed to express their opinions. Limkamput is at his best (minus his tendencies to go ‘un-civil’ with his comments the moment somebody does) when he challenges others to prove him wrong. Lately he has become very docile.</p>
<p>What we read today  mostly are  shades of the same opinion. How boring! Surely someone somewhere has a different opinion.</p>
<p>Imagine if Kit were to one day be the Prime Minister. Imagine if he is surrounded by a group of “Yes” men. That would be a great disservice to him and to the country. Surely he cannot be doing everything right! I believe he’d be the first to appreciate the honesty and the courage shown by members of his inner cabinet in standing up to him and say he’s wrong on an issue. </p>
<p>That was what must have happened to Mahathir when he was Prime Minister. He got to hear what others thought he wanted to hear and not what he needed to hear. Some close aide must have whispered to him that he was right, that Malaysia is an Islamic state!</p>
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		<title>By: katdog</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-3/#comment-105933</link>
		<dc:creator>katdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Killer says: &quot;But by calling for the RIC, Kit is more interested in indulging on a witch-hunt rather than solving the real issue. The real and urgent issue is solving the problem of illegal immigrants. 

As you have mentioned, LKS doesn&#039;t really know the real situation on the ground in Sabah. Second PR is not the government and is in no position to propose any detailed plans. 

Therefore ANY concrete plans that you seem to be asking LKS to provide SHOULD actually be coming from the Sabah MP&#039;s and government.  They are the ones in power and they are the ones who are supposed to know what is happening in their own state.

Since that obviously is NOT happening, therefore calling for an RIC is the next best solution, unless you personally want to make LKS the CM of Sabah and replace the BN government with PR. An RIC will be independant and will bring to light the root cause of the problem and propose appropriate actions to tackle the problem. You yourself claimed that the problem was complex, therefore isn&#039;t an RIC then suitable to properly and objectively investigate the problem? Rather then a BN led &#039;solution&#039; which will undoubtedly only be to further their own interests?

Therefore isn&#039;t an RIC the FIRST step to solving the problem? Of course we wouldn&#039;t need the RIC if the Sabah government can today propose a concrete plan the solve the problem. 

&quot;For someone who really has the interest of Sabab in his/her heart would rather fix the problem first than spend time and resources on fixing the people.&quot;

But what is the root cause of the problem? Isn&#039;t a LARGE part of the problem the PEOPLE running the whole sham in the first place? If its not the people then just what do you want fixed? Fixing the people is part of fixing the problem. In fact, thats probably the MOST important part of the problem.

But of course that&#039;s not the real point right? Your gripe is that LKS is only using the issue for political reasons and not interested in solving the problem. 

But if the RIC is a first step in solving the problem, then how is LKS NOT solving the problem by calling for an RIC?

Therefore, your gripe boils down to: LKS is only taking advantage of the situation for political reasons and he actually doesn&#039;t care for Sabahans. Duuuhhh!!! Do you think people like AAB and Najib and even Dr. M CARES about you? Are you naive? Their various programs are also politically motivated. I don&#039;t need an MP that is &#039;sincere&#039; and &#039;cares&#039; deeply for me but cannot solve the problem. 

You yourself have answered why what MP&#039;s are for:
&quot; That’s why we elect a govt every 5 years to represent us and to solve the problems that facing the nation.&quot;

So again i reiterate, why bother debating if it is politically motivated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Killer says: &#8220;But by calling for the RIC, Kit is more interested in indulging on a witch-hunt rather than solving the real issue. The real and urgent issue is solving the problem of illegal immigrants. </p>
<p>As you have mentioned, LKS doesn&#8217;t really know the real situation on the ground in Sabah. Second PR is not the government and is in no position to propose any detailed plans. </p>
<p>Therefore ANY concrete plans that you seem to be asking LKS to provide SHOULD actually be coming from the Sabah MP&#8217;s and government.  They are the ones in power and they are the ones who are supposed to know what is happening in their own state.</p>
<p>Since that obviously is NOT happening, therefore calling for an RIC is the next best solution, unless you personally want to make LKS the CM of Sabah and replace the BN government with PR. An RIC will be independant and will bring to light the root cause of the problem and propose appropriate actions to tackle the problem. You yourself claimed that the problem was complex, therefore isn&#8217;t an RIC then suitable to properly and objectively investigate the problem? Rather then a BN led &#8217;solution&#8217; which will undoubtedly only be to further their own interests?</p>
<p>Therefore isn&#8217;t an RIC the FIRST step to solving the problem? Of course we wouldn&#8217;t need the RIC if the Sabah government can today propose a concrete plan the solve the problem. </p>
<p>&#8220;For someone who really has the interest of Sabab in his/her heart would rather fix the problem first than spend time and resources on fixing the people.&#8221;</p>
<p>But what is the root cause of the problem? Isn&#8217;t a LARGE part of the problem the PEOPLE running the whole sham in the first place? If its not the people then just what do you want fixed? Fixing the people is part of fixing the problem. In fact, thats probably the MOST important part of the problem.</p>
<p>But of course that&#8217;s not the real point right? Your gripe is that LKS is only using the issue for political reasons and not interested in solving the problem. </p>
<p>But if the RIC is a first step in solving the problem, then how is LKS NOT solving the problem by calling for an RIC?</p>
<p>Therefore, your gripe boils down to: LKS is only taking advantage of the situation for political reasons and he actually doesn&#8217;t care for Sabahans. Duuuhhh!!! Do you think people like AAB and Najib and even Dr. M CARES about you? Are you naive? Their various programs are also politically motivated. I don&#8217;t need an MP that is &#8217;sincere&#8217; and &#8216;cares&#8217; deeply for me but cannot solve the problem. </p>
<p>You yourself have answered why what MP&#8217;s are for:<br />
&#8221; That’s why we elect a govt every 5 years to represent us and to solve the problems that facing the nation.&#8221;</p>
<p>So again i reiterate, why bother debating if it is politically motivated?</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-2/#comment-105917</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...we are still paying for our sins....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;we are still paying for our sins&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-2/#comment-105915</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He is an elected MP who is PAID by rakyat. I pay his salary and I expect him to be ACCOUNTABLE and ANSWERABLE.&quot;  K I L L E R

Do you expect the same of your bosses in UMNO ?  Don&#039;t have double standards.  We have been paying the den of thieves for 50 years, and we are still pay for our sins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He is an elected MP who is PAID by rakyat. I pay his salary and I expect him to be ACCOUNTABLE and ANSWERABLE.&#8221;  K I L L E R</p>
<p>Do you expect the same of your bosses in UMNO ?  Don&#8217;t have double standards.  We have been paying the den of thieves for 50 years, and we are still pay for our sins.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/21/1227/comment-page-2/#comment-105910</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That’s why I am questioning Kit’s sincerity in tabling this motion. If he has Sabah and Sabahan at heart, he would be asking for actions on illegal immigrants and NOT calling for a RIC. So that’s why I am saying Kit is just another politician taking Sabahans for a ride.&quot; killer



We&#039;d be less than honest not admit to the political impact of a Royal Commission of Inquiry has. 



Let&#039;s just say that Kit like many other opposition politicians  in stopping illegal immigrants from voting at elections has a political interest in Sabah.



Even in advance countries like the United States voter fraud is still a serious issue. It could come in many forms. Illegal aliens used to be able to vote by just showing their driving licenses to officials manning the booths. In Malaysia the extent of fraud is more serious as it leads to the highest levels of government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That’s why I am questioning Kit’s sincerity in tabling this motion. If he has Sabah and Sabahan at heart, he would be asking for actions on illegal immigrants and NOT calling for a RIC. So that’s why I am saying Kit is just another politician taking Sabahans for a ride.&#8221; killer</p>
<p>We&#8217;d be less than honest not admit to the political impact of a Royal Commission of Inquiry has. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just say that Kit like many other opposition politicians  in stopping illegal immigrants from voting at elections has a political interest in Sabah.</p>
<p>Even in advance countries like the United States voter fraud is still a serious issue. It could come in many forms. Illegal aliens used to be able to vote by just showing their driving licenses to officials manning the booths. In Malaysia the extent of fraud is more serious as it leads to the highest levels of government.</p>
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		<title>By: Vidya Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vidya Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Killer, look for the wooden stump in the eyes of TDM and AAB (and all the Sabah Ministers) before you look for the splinter in YB Kit&#039;s.  If your concerns are far more genuine, pray do tell this proverbial frog - what have you, &quot;the holier-than-thou&quot; done about Sabah&#039;s issue?  Not as a politician, but as a citizen?  

BTW, YB Kit alone does not make the Cabinet.  Go raise your grouse with the gall-less Sabah MPs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Killer, look for the wooden stump in the eyes of TDM and AAB (and all the Sabah Ministers) before you look for the splinter in YB Kit&#8217;s.  If your concerns are far more genuine, pray do tell this proverbial frog &#8211; what have you, &#8220;the holier-than-thou&#8221; done about Sabah&#8217;s issue?  Not as a politician, but as a citizen?  </p>
<p>BTW, YB Kit alone does not make the Cabinet.  Go raise your grouse with the gall-less Sabah MPs.</p>
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