Comments on: Fulfilment of 30-year dream of Sabahans in the hands of Sabah BN MPs http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:12:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: deer http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-106737 deer Wed, 28 May 2008 09:02:31 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-106737 Don't have to go far. A genuine economic migrant with proper work pass from East Timor spent the last 15 years working in the kebun of a local in Keningau and tried his luck to apply for a PR. He has married a local. He was told bluntly by an NRD officer in KK: "Kalau mau dapat Mykad, senang saja bah. Tapi nama kamu kena tukar dulu...." He refused to betray his religion, remain as Petrus and earned his livelihood with his conscience clear. There is a religio-political dimension in the whole episode. As long as this is the hidden agenda of the Federal authorities, RCI or whatever bodies will not work. Only the rise of PEOPLE POWER from among the Rungus, Dusun, Lotud, Murut, Kwijau, Kimaragang, Tatana, Liwan, Brunei, Bajau, Idahan, Tambonuo, Kadayan and 30 more other ethnic "Children of the Soil" (Bumiputra). You cannot depend and or trust outsiders! The sad thing is, the Sabahan Bumiputras are all fallen into the divide-and-rule scheme long time ago....! Don’t have to go far. A genuine economic migrant with proper work pass from East Timor spent the last 15 years working in the kebun of a local in Keningau and tried his luck to apply for a PR. He has married a local. He was told bluntly by an NRD officer in KK: “Kalau mau dapat Mykad, senang saja bah. Tapi nama kamu kena tukar dulu….”
He refused to betray his religion, remain as Petrus and earned his livelihood with his conscience clear.

There is a religio-political dimension in the whole episode. As long as this is the hidden agenda of the Federal authorities, RCI or whatever bodies will not work.

Only the rise of PEOPLE POWER from among the Rungus, Dusun, Lotud, Murut, Kwijau, Kimaragang, Tatana, Liwan, Brunei, Bajau, Idahan, Tambonuo, Kadayan and 30 more other ethnic “Children of the Soil” (Bumiputra). You cannot depend and or trust outsiders! The sad thing is, the Sabahan Bumiputras are all fallen into the divide-and-rule scheme long time ago….!

]]> By: rainbowseahorse http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-106531 rainbowseahorse Tue, 27 May 2008 03:36:33 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-106531 Dear All, Please STOP refering to the Sabah problem as "illegal Immigrants" as it implies that these foreign immigrants are in Sabah without proper documents. There are indeed illegal foreigners living & working in Sabah without proper documents, but that's another issue. Sabah REAL and VERY MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM are the economic immigrants who were issued IC, and then MyKad, and who effectively have became Constitutional BUMIPUTRAS in Sabah. In rough estimates, they numbered two to one over the real Sabahans. This is the main issue that should be addressed first and foremost over anything else. In truth, these IMPORTED BUMIPUTRAS are already in every facet of Sabah's society and in the government which makes it that harder still to untangle. The problem is like a cancer to Sabah. Dear All,
Please STOP refering to the Sabah problem as “illegal Immigrants” as it implies that these foreign immigrants are in Sabah without proper documents. There are indeed illegal foreigners living & working in Sabah without proper documents, but that’s another issue.
Sabah REAL and VERY MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM are the economic immigrants who were issued IC, and then MyKad, and who effectively have became Constitutional BUMIPUTRAS in Sabah. In rough estimates, they numbered two to one over the real Sabahans. This is the main issue that should be addressed first and foremost over anything else. In truth, these IMPORTED BUMIPUTRAS are already in every facet of Sabah’s society and in the government which makes it that harder still to untangle.
The problem is like a cancer to Sabah.

]]> By: Jong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-105797 Jong Thu, 22 May 2008 05:57:46 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-105797 Well, on 8 March 2008, they had to pay for their arrogance. Right thinking Malaysians decided no way they can tolerate them anymore, had rejected Umno and BN. If not for EC's help and postal votes, Pakatan Rakyat would have taken over Federal govt. Well, on 8 March 2008, they had to pay for their arrogance. Right thinking Malaysians decided no way they can tolerate them anymore, had rejected Umno and BN. If not for EC’s help and postal votes, Pakatan Rakyat would have taken over Federal govt.

]]> By: badak http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-105795 badak Thu, 22 May 2008 05:45:11 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-105795 Killer..AKA...KJ..The last 8 years UMNO has become so powerful that.It has gone to thier heads.So much so that no BN component party members dare go againts it.This UMNO leaders are so power crazy that they will do anything to stay in power Killer..AKA…KJ..The last 8 years UMNO has become so powerful that.It has gone to thier heads.So much so that no BN component party members dare go againts it.This UMNO leaders are so power crazy that they will do anything to stay in power

]]> By: lakilompat http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-105765 lakilompat Thu, 22 May 2008 03:59:57 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-105765 When the day Tun Dr. Mahathir join PR, it is the day, new govt. resume & restore order. When the day Tun Dr. Mahathir join PR, it is the day, new govt. resume & restore order.

]]> By: lakilompat http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-105764 lakilompat Thu, 22 May 2008 03:57:55 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-105764 Respond to Killer, "If your intentions are noble and you do care for the people of Sabah/Sarawak you wouldn’t only be bringing this issue up now but years ago." Years ago BN 2/3 majority, Now is the time is right to grill them and return justice to the people. Where were you when the Sabahan were crying for RCI for years now ? YB Kit & his team was fighting to crush the 2/3 majority held by the BN goons when the Sabahan were crying for RCI for years. In fact YB Kit & his team won 5 states and managed to set foot on Johor (BN strongholds) and it also successfully to conquered one of the richest & developed city in Sabah and Sarawak. Your are just another politician trying to take Sabahan for a ride. They are there to restore the justice to all Malaysian, Makkal Sakti! whoever not interested go join the BN. Even Tun Dr. M quit from UMNO to show how disgusting it was. Respond to Killer,

“If your intentions are noble and you do care for the people of Sabah/Sarawak you wouldn’t only be bringing this issue up now but years ago.”

Years ago BN 2/3 majority, Now is the time is right to grill them and return justice to the people.

Where were you when the Sabahan were crying for RCI for years now ?

YB Kit & his team was fighting to crush the 2/3 majority held by the BN goons when the Sabahan were crying for RCI for years. In fact YB Kit & his team won 5 states and managed to set foot on Johor (BN strongholds) and it also successfully to conquered one of the richest & developed city in Sabah and Sarawak.

Your are just another politician trying to take Sabahan for a ride.

They are there to restore the justice to all Malaysian, Makkal Sakti! whoever not interested go join the BN. Even Tun Dr. M quit from UMNO to show how disgusting it was.

]]> By: lchk http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-105755 lchk Thu, 22 May 2008 03:37:08 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-105755 Believe me, if I was Kit, I would track down Killer's IP address and if he resides in Malaysia, make an example of him in a court of law for slander and malice. Believe me, if I was Kit, I would track down Killer’s IP address and if he resides in Malaysia, make an example of him in a court of law for slander and malice.

]]> By: lchk http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-105752 lchk Thu, 22 May 2008 03:30:25 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-105752 I believe Kit welcomes viewpoints from all parties, even those that are against his stance or principles. However, I firmly believe that a line should be drawn when slander and false accusations are hurled into the mixture of postings. For instance, Killer made two false accusations (without a shred of evidence): 1) Claiming that Kit is only now reacting to the illegal immigrant problem in Sabah instead of doing so in the past 2) Claiming that Penang DAP members are fuming at Lim Guan Eng because they did not receive handouts from the Penang State govt as rewards for the recent GE victory I believe Kit welcomes viewpoints from all parties, even those that are against his stance or principles.

However, I firmly believe that a line should be drawn when slander and false accusations are hurled into the mixture of postings.

For instance, Killer made two false accusations (without a shred of evidence):

1) Claiming that Kit is only now reacting to the illegal immigrant problem in Sabah instead of doing so in the past

2) Claiming that Penang DAP members are fuming at Lim Guan Eng because they did not receive handouts from the Penang State govt as rewards for the recent GE victory

]]> By: i_love_malaysia http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-105744 i_love_malaysia Thu, 22 May 2008 02:56:37 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-105744 We just need to treat Killer as an opposition member of LKS blog for his opposing views, so that people who read this blog will be exposed to both views and decide for themselves whose views and opinions are correct/practical etc. !!! Lest this blog will become a "Yes Man blog" & LKS will not be able to see other views other than his own!!! We just need to treat Killer as an opposition member of LKS blog for his opposing views, so that people who read this blog will be exposed to both views and decide for themselves whose views and opinions are correct/practical etc. !!! Lest this blog will become a “Yes Man blog” & LKS will not be able to see other views other than his own!!!

]]> By: i_love_malaysia http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-105742 i_love_malaysia Thu, 22 May 2008 02:41:32 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-105742 Killer is just a messenger boy who may have the connection to the highest office of this land. It is good to keep him here so that whatever we discuss may be reported directly back to the master. They want to find out how people will response especially those whom they thought are going to counter their ways of working and thinking. From his posts, we will know how good is the master behind him!!! so far, my own assessment is, he should look for a new master!!! Killer is just a messenger boy who may have the connection to the highest office of this land. It is good to keep him here so that whatever we discuss may be reported directly back to the master. They want to find out how people will response especially those whom they thought are going to counter their ways of working and thinking. From his posts, we will know how good is the master behind him!!! so far, my own assessment is, he should look for a new master!!!

]]> By: lchk http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-105726 lchk Thu, 22 May 2008 00:00:37 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-105726 "assume a new nick" “assume a new nick”

]]> By: lchk http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-105725 lchk Thu, 22 May 2008 00:00:16 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-105725 With this exposure of Killer's UTTERLY FALSE accusation that LKS only recently brought up the issue of illegal immigrants in Sabah, I think killer will need to assume nick to continue posting here unless he likes being ridiculed and mocked everytime he writes his garbage in this blog. With this exposure of Killer’s UTTERLY FALSE accusation that LKS only recently brought up the issue of illegal immigrants in Sabah, I think killer will need to assume nick to continue posting here unless he likes being ridiculed and mocked everytime he writes his garbage in this blog.

]]> By: kerishamuddinitis http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-105717 kerishamuddinitis Wed, 21 May 2008 21:34:37 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-105717 KILLER's modus operandi, it seems, is to simply litter a thread with some STUPID, ILL-CONCEIVED statement that often makes a mockery of the issue in discussion, and cause writers to jump all over his statements rather than discusss the issue. Of course, he surfs the other posts and repeats this everytime, just making, almost poking fun at the writers. That, I suppose, is why his handle is KILLER. He is simply 'killing' issues and 'space.' No-brainer job. Probably very good money. KILLER’s modus operandi, it seems, is to simply litter a thread with some STUPID, ILL-CONCEIVED statement that often makes a mockery of the issue in discussion, and cause writers to jump all over his statements rather than discusss the issue. Of course, he surfs the other posts and repeats this everytime, just making, almost poking fun at the writers.

That, I suppose, is why his handle is KILLER. He is simply ‘killing’ issues and ‘space.’

No-brainer job. Probably very good money.

]]> By: ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-105710 ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH Wed, 21 May 2008 20:12:36 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-105710 dear limkamput, i wrote: that you have to work hard for a living. so i am praising you. as for whatever your name,it is not important. It is how you live your life/or is prepared to change your life. I have also stated once here and in malaysiatoday, that i use my actual name in blogs post. dear limkamput, your handle starts with l and end with t, spells like ,sounds like,but i am sure you are not . have a nice day ahead. dear limkamput,

i wrote: that you have to work hard for a living. so i am praising you.

as for whatever your name,it is not important. It is how you live your life/or is prepared to change your life. I have also stated once here and in malaysiatoday, that i use my actual name in blogs post.

dear limkamput,
your handle starts with l and end with t, spells like ,sounds like,but i am sure you are not .

have a nice day ahead.

]]> By: Godfather http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-105686 Godfather Wed, 21 May 2008 15:20:16 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-105686 Limkamput: We are most happy to make suggestions for your new handle if you are prepared to change yours. It is evident that lakilompat isn't going to change his, so changing yours is the only logical option. Limkamput: We are most happy to make suggestions for your new handle if you are prepared to change yours. It is evident that lakilompat isn’t going to change his, so changing yours is the only logical option.

]]> By: cvl http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-105681 cvl Wed, 21 May 2008 14:41:11 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-105681 For Sabah and Sarawak....has it crossed your mind? I mean, the USB thingy......United States of Borneo.....could it be reasons enough ? if Borneo Island is properly seen as Muslim majority, it would be fitting enough for the declare it a nation? Illegal migrant coming to Sabah did not and still does not make economic senses, enless for a greater glory.... Care to ponder and think about it sometimes? For Sabah and Sarawak….has it crossed your mind?

I mean, the USB thingy……United States of Borneo…..could it be reasons enough ? if Borneo Island is properly seen as Muslim majority, it would be fitting enough for the declare it a nation?

Illegal migrant coming to Sabah did not and still does not make economic senses, enless for a greater glory….

Care to ponder and think about it sometimes?

]]> By: eagle_eyes http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-105680 eagle_eyes Wed, 21 May 2008 14:40:49 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-105680 K i l l e r, Don’t be so slow to see the real problem here, Political motive or not, the point is Mr LKS is trying to raise this motion where no one of Sabah MPs dare to do so. Come on and wake up. What kind of killer are you? mosquito killer? Are you one of those Sabah illegal immigrants who’s already got a genuine IC? K i l l e r, Don’t be so slow to see the real problem here, Political motive or not, the point is Mr LKS is trying to raise this motion where no one of Sabah MPs dare to do so.

Come on and wake up. What kind of killer are you? mosquito killer?

Are you one of those Sabah illegal immigrants who’s already got a genuine IC?

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-105675 limkamput Wed, 21 May 2008 14:01:26 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-105675 So would the MPs from Sabah vote for Kit's motion? I say NO, who are with me? I say no not because the motion is not worthy. I say no because MPs from Sabah are mere loud mouths fighting for their own positions and perks. The welfare of Sabahans is never in their consideration set. Godfather, I need your help: Get the lakilompat to change his ID to something else. Each time I come across his ID, I thought it was me and that will make my heart beats skip on beat. Adam, I hope you are not saying I am a bigot, are you? So would the MPs from Sabah vote for Kit’s motion? I say NO, who are with me?

I say no not because the motion is not worthy. I say no because MPs from Sabah are mere loud mouths fighting for their own positions and perks. The welfare of Sabahans is never in their consideration set.

Godfather, I need your help: Get the lakilompat to change his ID to something else. Each time I come across his ID, I thought it was me and that will make my heart beats skip on beat.

Adam, I hope you are not saying I am a bigot, are you?

]]> By: Zeroshit http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-105674 Zeroshit Wed, 21 May 2008 14:00:14 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-105674 Killer, As a Sabahan I dont really care whether LKS was politically motivated when bringing up this issue. The fact of the matter is that the RCI should be brought up for the sake of justice and so the truth prevails. Better now than never. Killer,

As a Sabahan I dont really care whether LKS was politically motivated when bringing up this issue. The fact of the matter is that the RCI should be brought up for the sake of justice and so the truth prevails. Better now than never.

]]> By: petestop http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/comment-page-2/#comment-105673 petestop Wed, 21 May 2008 13:55:25 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/20/fulfilment-of-30-year-dream-of-sabahans-in-the-hands-of-sabah-bn-mps/#comment-105673 For 50 years, we've been hoodwinked by BN. The Indians have woken up with the Hindraf movement, when their temples are demolished and their equity in the country languished below 5%, and even that only concentrate in few politically connected hands. The Chinese have always flip-flop, don't know whether to stand up against oppression by UMNO Ultras, or try some pragmatism by working with them in BN, for fear of UMNO bathing of their keris with Chinese blood. The Sabahan and the Sarawakians.... you wanna wait another 50 years, until your Petroleum runs out, your natural resources plundered and your country overran by illegal immigrants....?? Yet you remain in your drunken stupor, maybe impressed by Malaysia able to launch a "space tourist" into space. Come on, still impress with "nikit belon" ?? Don't let the rest of Malaysian look down on you, take your destiny in your own hands ! For 50 years, we’ve been hoodwinked by BN.

The Indians have woken up with the Hindraf movement, when their temples are demolished and their equity in the country languished below 5%, and even that only concentrate in few politically connected hands.

The Chinese have always flip-flop, don’t know whether to stand up against oppression by UMNO Ultras, or try some pragmatism by working with them in BN, for fear of UMNO bathing of their keris with Chinese blood.

The Sabahan and the Sarawakians…. you wanna wait another 50 years, until your Petroleum runs out, your natural resources plundered and your country overran by illegal immigrants….??

Yet you remain in your drunken stupor, maybe impressed by Malaysia able to launch a “space tourist” into space.
Come on, still impress with “nikit belon” ??

Don’t let the rest of Malaysian look down on you, take your destiny in your own hands !

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