Comments on: Sabah/Sarawak should get 10-11 Ministers and not just 5 in Cabinet http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/ for Malaysia Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:40:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: northborneo http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/#comment-141169 northborneo Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:00:29 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/#comment-141169 If my housemate treats me like an outsider and deny me of my rights, I would gladly leave the house or kick them out and take over the house. If my housemate treats me like an outsider and deny me of my rights, I would gladly leave the house or kick them out and take over the house.

]]> By: gundam http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/#comment-105354 gundam Tue, 20 May 2008 04:23:50 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/#comment-105354 sarawak and sabah should launch a referendum to leave malaya. tat's the only option. sarawak and sabah should launch a referendum to leave malaya. tat’s the only option.

]]> By: joehancl http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/#comment-105185 joehancl Mon, 19 May 2008 11:59:45 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/#comment-105185 For what its worth I think Anwar (Warts and all) is in the best position to take malaysia out of its mess. The man was damned six years in jail(rightly or wrongly). But now he is lifted up to can be PM. This I say he could not do on his own but by the perception of malaysians or by God. If he truly wants to serve as PM he had better have HONEST values to serve all malaysians. A man who has gone through such sufferings (himself and family) still wants to be corrupt in govt. will be damned by his people if not by God. For what its worth I think Anwar (Warts and all) is in the best position to take malaysia out of its mess. The man was damned six years in jail(rightly or wrongly). But now he is lifted up to can be PM. This I say he could not do on his own but by the perception of malaysians or by God. If he truly wants to serve as PM he had better have HONEST values to serve all malaysians. A man who has gone through such sufferings (himself and family) still wants to be corrupt in govt. will be damned by his people if not by God.

]]> By: cvl http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/#comment-105038 cvl Mon, 19 May 2008 02:49:57 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/#comment-105038 Simply find it difficult to miss: If AAB is the typical product beneficiary of the NEP, and LKS is the the typical product side lined off the NEP.....then it lends credence a side effect of crutches does make a person permanently limp. He would need more than crutches in the end. Such a vivid contrast LKS can etch just on one issue in Sabah. And thank to AAB calendars he is busy doing home sewing. Anyone cares for NEP hand outs?? Simply find it difficult to miss:

If AAB is the typical product beneficiary of the NEP, and LKS is the the typical product side lined off the NEP…..then it lends credence a side effect of crutches does make a person permanently limp. He would need more than crutches in the end.

Such a vivid contrast LKS can etch just on one issue in Sabah. And thank to AAB calendars he is busy doing home sewing.

Anyone cares for NEP hand outs??

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/#comment-105029 limkamput Mon, 19 May 2008 02:06:49 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/#comment-105029 Yes, Sdr Lim, just load the pressure on the MPs from Sabah and Sarawak. They have to make a choice now - don't just talk the talk, but walk the talk. It is time All Sabahans and Sarawakians realise that our leaders have taken all of us for a ride. Our leaders and their families have it too good. Governing is just simply too lucrative in this country. Time to change all these. We the rakyat deserve better. If this country is managed properly and prudently, I dare say by now this country would have been a little Switzerland in Asia. Just look at the standard of living of an average Malaysian today - miserable income, poor housing, filthy environment, pollution, dirty water, endless traffic congestion, haphazard planning, zero public transportation, hopeless education, millions of unskilled and disease carrying foreign workers and endless scandals. It is enough. Yes, Sdr Lim, just load the pressure on the MPs from Sabah and Sarawak. They have to make a choice now - don’t just talk the talk, but walk the talk. It is time All Sabahans and Sarawakians realise that our leaders have taken all of us for a ride. Our leaders and their families have it too good. Governing is just simply too lucrative in this country. Time to change all these. We the rakyat deserve better. If this country is managed properly and prudently, I dare say by now this country would have been a little Switzerland in Asia. Just look at the standard of living of an average Malaysian today - miserable income, poor housing, filthy environment, pollution, dirty water, endless traffic congestion, haphazard planning, zero public transportation, hopeless education, millions of unskilled and disease carrying foreign workers and endless scandals. It is enough.

]]> By: cheng on soo http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/#comment-105017 cheng on soo Mon, 19 May 2008 01:42:17 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/#comment-105017 Jeffrey Says: Today at 05: 01.48 (4 hours ago) Post Political Tsunami politics of 8th March 07’ sees HEY ! date wrong lah, should be year 08 Jeffrey Says:

Today at 05: 01.48 (4 hours ago)
Post Political Tsunami politics of 8th March 07’ sees
HEY ! date wrong lah, should be year 08

]]> By: Bintulu http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/#comment-105014 Bintulu Mon, 19 May 2008 01:32:43 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/#comment-105014 Sabah maybe in the state of uneasiness, but rest assure - Sarawak will not follow suit. Our MPs are those of self-serving kinda, and only care about protecting their status quo. The sad thing is that we can't kick them out, as they in most cases are often better than the candidates that opposition like DAP, PKR fielded. Take for example the candidate they fielded in Bintulu recently. They should have fielded someone of a little bit more experience that Lim Su Kien. She did well, but against heavyweight and people's favorite in Datuk Seri Tiong - no one would dare to bet on her. Another factor is that - DAP, PKR is often seen as 'outsider' in Sarawak as these parties are not a 'homegrown' opposition. You go to any longhouses, anywhere in Sarawak, they would rather vote the worst BN candidates than opposition candidate. Sabah maybe in the state of uneasiness, but rest assure - Sarawak will not follow suit. Our MPs are those of self-serving kinda, and only care about protecting their status quo.

The sad thing is that we can’t kick them out, as they in most cases are often better than the candidates that opposition like DAP, PKR fielded.

Take for example the candidate they fielded in Bintulu recently. They should have fielded someone of a little bit more experience that Lim Su Kien. She did well, but against heavyweight and people’s favorite in Datuk Seri Tiong - no one would dare to bet on her.

Another factor is that - DAP, PKR is often seen as ‘outsider’ in Sarawak as these parties are not a ‘homegrown’ opposition. You go to any longhouses, anywhere in Sarawak, they would rather vote the worst BN candidates than opposition candidate.

]]> By: Jeffrey http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/#comment-105003 Jeffrey Sun, 18 May 2008 21:04:35 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/#comment-105003 Sorry for typo - "all roads lead to ROME".... Sorry for typo - “all roads lead to ROME”….

]]> By: Jeffrey http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/#comment-105002 Jeffrey Sun, 18 May 2008 21:01:48 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/19/sabahsarawak-should-get-10-11-ministers-and-not-just-5-in-cabinet/#comment-105002 Post Political Tsunami politics of 8th March 07’ sees BN and PR almost neck to neck in terms of numbers in Dewan Rakyat, neither strong enough to rule to implement policies, whether old politics based on ‘Ketuanan’ & TDM’s legacy or new Politics of Reform to rid of the former, unimpeded by the other side. The situation is temporary. It is unsatisfactory; it needs to be resolved. The imperative is one side to decisively cripple the other…….to take over the mantle of governance and rule convincingly and decisively. Which side will that be that holds better promise to win over the other??? The answer is obvious. One of major players is defacto PR leader DSAI who is not expected to be patient in this game. He has been uncharacteristically quiet. (It is YB Kit’s role to highlight issues and keep BN’s failed policies rejected by rakyat in limelight . Maybe DSAI is busy snitching up the cross over deals. For he knows that time is not on PR’s side, and time to move is not too long from now. The reason is simple : delay means BN can slowly strangle PR controlled state governments via its control of federal funds which will make PR look incompetent to rule in supporters’ eyes. The other factor to consider is UMNO camp being divided at this moment between those inclined to populist approach of reform to reinvent – and redeem - themselves in ballot box next time around and those comfortable with old TDM’s politics opposing this approach. If the latter faction prevails, then repressive measures may be resorted against PR politicians to resolve the impasse and deadlock. This is where option no. 2 put forward by Mendela is an important factor. Another factor is factionalism within UMNO between multiple players vying for power but basically divided along broad schism of those inclined to populist politics of reform discarding TDM’s legacy and those clinging on to it. (As Godfather noted all roads lead to Roam in many contentious issues of the day!). The recent decision to make public the Lingam Commission’s findings public implicating TDM is part of process making him focal point on which battle lines are drawn within the ruling coalition along lines that one is either for his style and legacy of politics or against! Which of course makes it ideologically easier for the side against to collaborate with PR whose policies are definitely against! If East Malaysian politicians – and the reform faction within UMNO –collaborate with PR, then there will be a solution because such a coalition, with significant defection/realignment from BN’s side, will have the numbers to rule by two thirds proceeding on the assumption that Gerakan & MCA and the rest are followers, looking for positions, and will follow the side that wins and could rule …… Malaysian Politics will have to reconfigure along this line to be viable. So it makes sense for PR strategist politicians, Kit to keep BN’s failing policies on radar screen especially those pertaining to East Malaysian marginalisation as evinced in last two blog threads and DSAI to work quietly behind the scenes negotiating, cutting, sewing up the political fabric of the new deal for the country…. If time is of the essence, then solution begs to be delivered soon. Post Political Tsunami politics of 8th March 07’ sees BN and PR almost neck to neck in terms of numbers in Dewan Rakyat, neither strong enough to rule to implement policies, whether old politics based on ‘Ketuanan’ & TDM’s legacy or new Politics of Reform to rid of the former, unimpeded by the other side.

The situation is temporary. It is unsatisfactory; it needs to be resolved. The imperative is one side to decisively cripple the other…….to take over the mantle of governance and rule convincingly and decisively. Which side will that be that holds better promise to win over the other??? The answer is obvious.

One of major players is defacto PR leader DSAI who is not expected to be patient in this game. He has been uncharacteristically quiet. (It is YB Kit’s role to highlight issues and keep BN’s failed policies rejected by rakyat in limelight . Maybe DSAI is busy snitching up the cross over deals. For he knows that time is not on PR’s side, and time to move is not too long from now. The reason is simple : delay means BN can slowly strangle PR controlled state governments via its control of federal funds which will make PR look incompetent to rule in supporters’ eyes.

The other factor to consider is UMNO camp being divided at this moment between those inclined to populist approach of reform to reinvent – and redeem - themselves in ballot box next time around and those comfortable with old TDM’s politics opposing this approach. If the latter faction prevails, then repressive measures may be resorted against PR politicians to resolve the impasse and deadlock.

This is where option no. 2 put forward by Mendela is an important factor.

Another factor is factionalism within UMNO between multiple players vying for power but basically divided along broad schism of those inclined to populist politics of reform discarding TDM’s legacy and those clinging on to it. (As Godfather noted all roads lead to Roam in many contentious issues of the day!).

The recent decision to make public the Lingam Commission’s findings public implicating TDM is part of process making him focal point on which battle lines are drawn within the ruling coalition along lines that one is either for his style and legacy of politics or against! Which of course makes it ideologically easier for the side against to collaborate with PR whose policies are definitely against!

If East Malaysian politicians – and the reform faction within UMNO –collaborate with PR, then there will be a solution because such a coalition, with significant defection/realignment from BN’s side, will have the numbers to rule by two thirds proceeding on the assumption that Gerakan & MCA and the rest are followers, looking for positions, and will follow the side that wins and could rule ……
Malaysian Politics will have to reconfigure along this line to be viable.

So it makes sense for PR strategist politicians, Kit to keep BN’s failing policies on radar screen especially those pertaining to East Malaysian marginalisation as evinced in last two blog threads and DSAI to work quietly behind the scenes negotiating, cutting, sewing up the political fabric of the new deal for the country….

If time is of the essence, then solution begs to be delivered soon.

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