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		<title>By: DG</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/14/sabah-on-fire-in-parliament-2/comment-page-1/#comment-104724</link>
		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 11:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sabah had been a milking cow for decades (Timers, Oil Palm &amp; crude oil and petroleum ) ! IF there is a need for change it need to be now! What had the peninsula contribute to the semenajung, practically a little piece of biscut! Wake up &amp; be strong, you guys can do it if united!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sabah had been a milking cow for decades (Timers, Oil Palm &amp; crude oil and petroleum ) ! IF there is a need for change it need to be now! What had the peninsula contribute to the semenajung, practically a little piece of biscut! Wake up &amp; be strong, you guys can do it if united!</p>
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		<title>By: KualaPenyu</title>
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		<dc:creator>KualaPenyu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One day, our beloved country will have a PM of an illegal immigrant (but I/C holder) origin. This prophesies is already in the making, just waiting for the right time to prevail. Many peninsula Malay have married to Sabahan “Malay” aka former illegal immigrant. So, what do we call their children? And these children will grow up as a backup MP for UMNO and hence qualified for the PM post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One day, our beloved country will have a PM of an illegal immigrant (but I/C holder) origin. This prophesies is already in the making, just waiting for the right time to prevail. Many peninsula Malay have married to Sabahan “Malay” aka former illegal immigrant. So, what do we call their children? And these children will grow up as a backup MP for UMNO and hence qualified for the PM post.</p>
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		<title>By: pai</title>
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		<dc:creator>pai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I refer to nazryan&#039;s comment - &quot;NGOs body can play apart in getting those identified, malaysianized them, train them, install the patriotism etc if necessary. Get accurate statistic on these identified new Malaysian&quot; and wish to give my views as follows:

(1) If the estimated figure of Project I.C. of 500,000 - 700,000 is true, no NGO in Malaysia would have the fund and manpower to deal with these Project I.C. holders.
(2) The full potential risk of these Project I.C. holders to Sabah&#039;s security is now being mitigated by the Govt who screen out these people in the recruitment for military and police forces. However many of these people are now RELA members, that could be the reason why there have been so many cases of abuse of power in Sabah&#039;s RELA. If we legalise these Project I.C., this is like opening the Pandora box! 
(3) A huge majority of these people are the Philipine&#039;s Tausug and Bajau, who always claim that Sabah belongs to the Sultan of Sulu (which of course is not by virtue of the Madrid Protocol signed between the British &amp; Spanish in 1885). Due to historical &amp; cultural reasons, these people would prefer to form an alliance or pay their allegiance to the Mindanao&#039;s administration (perhaps the Republic of Mindanao &amp; Sulu), thus, separatist activities in the long run could not be ignored.
Base on the above reasons and many more not said here, i hope we could view the problem of Project I.C. more seriously and with a long term view!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I refer to nazryan&#8217;s comment &#8211; &#8220;NGOs body can play apart in getting those identified, malaysianized them, train them, install the patriotism etc if necessary. Get accurate statistic on these identified new Malaysian&#8221; and wish to give my views as follows:</p>
<p>(1) If the estimated figure of Project I.C. of 500,000 &#8211; 700,000 is true, no NGO in Malaysia would have the fund and manpower to deal with these Project I.C. holders.<br />
(2) The full potential risk of these Project I.C. holders to Sabah&#8217;s security is now being mitigated by the Govt who screen out these people in the recruitment for military and police forces. However many of these people are now RELA members, that could be the reason why there have been so many cases of abuse of power in Sabah&#8217;s RELA. If we legalise these Project I.C., this is like opening the Pandora box!<br />
(3) A huge majority of these people are the Philipine&#8217;s Tausug and Bajau, who always claim that Sabah belongs to the Sultan of Sulu (which of course is not by virtue of the Madrid Protocol signed between the British &amp; Spanish in 1885). Due to historical &amp; cultural reasons, these people would prefer to form an alliance or pay their allegiance to the Mindanao&#8217;s administration (perhaps the Republic of Mindanao &amp; Sulu), thus, separatist activities in the long run could not be ignored.<br />
Base on the above reasons and many more not said here, i hope we could view the problem of Project I.C. more seriously and with a long term view!</p>
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		<title>By: 20 Perkara</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/14/sabah-on-fire-in-parliament-2/comment-page-1/#comment-104556</link>
		<dc:creator>20 Perkara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saya sebagai warga negeri Sabah mohon agar ketokohan YB dapat membantu menyuarakan segala isu-isu yang melanda negeri Sabah. Terima Kasih.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saya sebagai warga negeri Sabah mohon agar ketokohan YB dapat membantu menyuarakan segala isu-isu yang melanda negeri Sabah. Terima Kasih.</p>
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		<title>By: ckchung</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/14/sabah-on-fire-in-parliament-2/comment-page-1/#comment-104537</link>
		<dc:creator>ckchung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 10:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BN government start project I/C after fail to win back the state from PBS hand, as the duty of issuing I/C under the control the federal government, blue I/C is issued with local recommendation and a statutory declaration, if PR become the new government, I hope they will review all the I/C application and give those blue I/C which without local birth certificate red.

BN government can still do the same if they want but I heard that a lot of these I/C holders went to West Malaysia and can understand why the crime rate are so high over there recently, all thanks to the blue I/C given to them.

Limkamput is right about that, why chasing for high GDP, as long as the country can sustain other things will come along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BN government start project I/C after fail to win back the state from PBS hand, as the duty of issuing I/C under the control the federal government, blue I/C is issued with local recommendation and a statutory declaration, if PR become the new government, I hope they will review all the I/C application and give those blue I/C which without local birth certificate red.</p>
<p>BN government can still do the same if they want but I heard that a lot of these I/C holders went to West Malaysia and can understand why the crime rate are so high over there recently, all thanks to the blue I/C given to them.</p>
<p>Limkamput is right about that, why chasing for high GDP, as long as the country can sustain other things will come along.</p>
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		<title>By: Damocles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damocles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soon, Anwar will deliver the coup-de-grace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soon, Anwar will deliver the coup-de-grace.</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/14/sabah-on-fire-in-parliament-2/comment-page-1/#comment-104254</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 08:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is time to control the unlimited entry of foreign workers.  For goodness sake, just ignore what the business people say.  They are just exploiting and profiteering out of the misery of foreign workers and ordinary Malaysians.  Let our GDP grows by 3% instead of 6%.  It is ok. New Zealand is a good development model for us to copy – grow slowly, control population growth, attract only quality investment, build on quality human capital, preserve the environment, and maintain clean and healthy living conditions.  NO need to rush like mad dog, for what at the end?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is time to control the unlimited entry of foreign workers.  For goodness sake, just ignore what the business people say.  They are just exploiting and profiteering out of the misery of foreign workers and ordinary Malaysians.  Let our GDP grows by 3% instead of 6%.  It is ok. New Zealand is a good development model for us to copy – grow slowly, control population growth, attract only quality investment, build on quality human capital, preserve the environment, and maintain clean and healthy living conditions.  NO need to rush like mad dog, for what at the end?</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/14/sabah-on-fire-in-parliament-2/comment-page-1/#comment-104253</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 08:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But are the long-suppressed voices of the people of Sabah being heard by the corridors of power in the Federal capital?

The answer must be in the negative if we go by the reply of the Home Minister, Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar when winding up the debate on his Ministry this evening&quot;  Sdr Kit

Oh, the Home Affairs Minister heard you fine.  It is just that it is expedient for him to act the other way.  He also said he wants to review the policy on foreign labour when he was first appointed Home Affairs Minister recently.  We shall see whether anything is going to happen. 

This nation is addicted to foreign workers, we must face the fact.  There is no political will to change it because the vested interest groups from the government to those in the private sector are simply too overwhelming for anything meaningful to emerge.  If we average Malaysians can&#039;t see our standard of living being gradually dragged down by the indiscriminate entry of foreign workers, we must gullible fools.  

Japan, Korea and even Singapore have become developed without massive influx of foreign unskilled and disease carrying workers.   There is a simple observation that I want share: Society will slowly gravitate toward what the policy dictates. For example, if we allow indiscriminate entry of foreign unskilled workers, then our society will grow to depend on them. On the other hand, if we are stringent on foreign workers, the society will also evolve and gravitate toward lesser dependence on foreign workers – there will be more automation, mechanisation, working from home, flexi working hours, time off for mothers etc.   Right now, as I can see, this country will continue to be inundated by foreign workers to the detriment of our social fabric and well being.  The tragedy is those who lobby hard for foreign labour and those who approve the entry of foreign labour will eventually retire to the comfort of some foreign lands leaving the waste land for all of us who have no where else to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But are the long-suppressed voices of the people of Sabah being heard by the corridors of power in the Federal capital?</p>
<p>The answer must be in the negative if we go by the reply of the Home Minister, Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar when winding up the debate on his Ministry this evening&#8221;  Sdr Kit</p>
<p>Oh, the Home Affairs Minister heard you fine.  It is just that it is expedient for him to act the other way.  He also said he wants to review the policy on foreign labour when he was first appointed Home Affairs Minister recently.  We shall see whether anything is going to happen. </p>
<p>This nation is addicted to foreign workers, we must face the fact.  There is no political will to change it because the vested interest groups from the government to those in the private sector are simply too overwhelming for anything meaningful to emerge.  If we average Malaysians can&#8217;t see our standard of living being gradually dragged down by the indiscriminate entry of foreign workers, we must gullible fools.  </p>
<p>Japan, Korea and even Singapore have become developed without massive influx of foreign unskilled and disease carrying workers.   There is a simple observation that I want share: Society will slowly gravitate toward what the policy dictates. For example, if we allow indiscriminate entry of foreign unskilled workers, then our society will grow to depend on them. On the other hand, if we are stringent on foreign workers, the society will also evolve and gravitate toward lesser dependence on foreign workers – there will be more automation, mechanisation, working from home, flexi working hours, time off for mothers etc.   Right now, as I can see, this country will continue to be inundated by foreign workers to the detriment of our social fabric and well being.  The tragedy is those who lobby hard for foreign labour and those who approve the entry of foreign labour will eventually retire to the comfort of some foreign lands leaving the waste land for all of us who have no where else to go.</p>
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		<title>By: nazryan</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/14/sabah-on-fire-in-parliament-2/comment-page-1/#comment-104246</link>
		<dc:creator>nazryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 08:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Project &quot;M&quot; is in-fact happening, which caused the defeat of PBS government at that time. We had seen open testimony by those involved few years back. It is also an open secret that many high government officers involved. I am against to the methods used but at the same time we should see how to improve and take control on these matters.

The questions now are what can be done to remedy the situation? Can we just take back the IC given? Can we just deny the rights of those whom already settled here and gave birth, born here? Or do we want to send them back to Philippines or Indonesia? What about their spouse if they already married to locals? Shall we deport them as well? Those already mixed with locals?

Well if we do that we are being biased since our fore fathers also came to Malaysia for prosper, better future and opportunity. They maybe few generations late but when they accept the IC given, their fate already sealed knowing that Malaysia is their new home. 

In this case :
1.	NGOs body can play apart in getting those identified, malaysianized them, train them, install the patriotism etc if necessary. Get accurate statistic on these identified new Malaysian. 
2.	Prosecute those involved without any favor. No reason can be justify giving freely our nationality identity. 
3.	Sabahan also need to accept that these are the mistakes of the BN gomen, and accept them gradually. A common solution need to be discussed between Sabahan representatives and PR so that the locals will not been taken a ride.
4.	Tighten the borders shall be one the step taken, there are still influx of foreigners in Sabah and Sarawak

At the end of the day, as the waiting government in line, PR must show that we are helpful and open our arms to them. Although they get the IC illegal, neverthenless they already accepted the notion that they ahve selected Malaysia as their new home. They are the product of a grave sin of the BN gomen but when PR in power, we must start a new, welcome them with open arms and respect them as citizens of Malaysia. We shall learn the mistake and shall never let these happened again.. 

These gave credence in showing that PR are the government for the rakyat (no matter how they came to be one or how recently)

p/s : On a lighter notes, they are indeed beautiful people (Malaysian’s Philippines), and I have the luxury of having good friends with them. And I can say they are patriotic and already Malaysianized. Suprisingly they are christians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Project &#8220;M&#8221; is in-fact happening, which caused the defeat of PBS government at that time. We had seen open testimony by those involved few years back. It is also an open secret that many high government officers involved. I am against to the methods used but at the same time we should see how to improve and take control on these matters.</p>
<p>The questions now are what can be done to remedy the situation? Can we just take back the IC given? Can we just deny the rights of those whom already settled here and gave birth, born here? Or do we want to send them back to Philippines or Indonesia? What about their spouse if they already married to locals? Shall we deport them as well? Those already mixed with locals?</p>
<p>Well if we do that we are being biased since our fore fathers also came to Malaysia for prosper, better future and opportunity. They maybe few generations late but when they accept the IC given, their fate already sealed knowing that Malaysia is their new home. </p>
<p>In this case :<br />
1.	NGOs body can play apart in getting those identified, malaysianized them, train them, install the patriotism etc if necessary. Get accurate statistic on these identified new Malaysian.<br />
2.	Prosecute those involved without any favor. No reason can be justify giving freely our nationality identity.<br />
3.	Sabahan also need to accept that these are the mistakes of the BN gomen, and accept them gradually. A common solution need to be discussed between Sabahan representatives and PR so that the locals will not been taken a ride.<br />
4.	Tighten the borders shall be one the step taken, there are still influx of foreigners in Sabah and Sarawak</p>
<p>At the end of the day, as the waiting government in line, PR must show that we are helpful and open our arms to them. Although they get the IC illegal, neverthenless they already accepted the notion that they ahve selected Malaysia as their new home. They are the product of a grave sin of the BN gomen but when PR in power, we must start a new, welcome them with open arms and respect them as citizens of Malaysia. We shall learn the mistake and shall never let these happened again.. </p>
<p>These gave credence in showing that PR are the government for the rakyat (no matter how they came to be one or how recently)</p>
<p>p/s : On a lighter notes, they are indeed beautiful people (Malaysian’s Philippines), and I have the luxury of having good friends with them. And I can say they are patriotic and already Malaysianized. Suprisingly they are christians.</p>
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		<title>By: i_love_malaysia</title>
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		<dc:creator>i_love_malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 07:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Testing</description>
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		<title>By: cheng on soo</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/14/sabah-on-fire-in-parliament-2/comment-page-1/#comment-104234</link>
		<dc:creator>cheng on soo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 07:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad, real sad, one day local original Sabahan will be grossly outnumbered by &quot;New Naturalized&quot; Sabahan.
&amp; if ppl dont wake up, this trend can continue &amp; spread to whole Msia ! 
By then, local &quot;supreme race&quot; may be displaced by the &quot;new naturalized&quot; &quot;supreme race&quot; who are more hard working, ruthless, fiercer, generally lowly educated.
See, by then how they can give privileges to say, 85% or more of population?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad, real sad, one day local original Sabahan will be grossly outnumbered by &#8220;New Naturalized&#8221; Sabahan.<br />
&amp; if ppl dont wake up, this trend can continue &amp; spread to whole Msia !<br />
By then, local &#8220;supreme race&#8221; may be displaced by the &#8220;new naturalized&#8221; &#8220;supreme race&#8221; who are more hard working, ruthless, fiercer, generally lowly educated.<br />
See, by then how they can give privileges to say, 85% or more of population?</p>
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		<title>By: cvl</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/14/sabah-on-fire-in-parliament-2/comment-page-1/#comment-104227</link>
		<dc:creator>cvl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 07:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leaving unsaid the obvious, the illegal migrants in Sabah requires a tremendous will power and resources to get it somewhat within control, again. The fuel that feed it MUST be correctly understood if an effective handle is sought. I doubt PR [ DAP,PAS,PKR] has a ready solution, and nothing less than a fully principled approach would do Malaysia the real solution for what it has – a mushrooming illegal migrant growth akin to a Force 3 thyphoon.  And there should be an evacuation plan should the ‘thypoon’ reach Force 5.

Firstly, the common denominator with almost all of these migrants is the religion they profess – Muslim.  Reports have it that some Christians economic migrants from southern Philippine have used religion, saying they are Muslims, to ease their passage for project IC or the IMM 13. [And I thought project IC was just a call name until I heard for myself an NRD lady staff directing an applicant to see a senior officer as she suspected the applicant was using a project ic to apply for the bunga raya ic at the Dang Bandang Kota Kinabalu some years ago.] In the spirit of brotherhood, a majority Muslim country like Malaysia has to be seen as caring.

Of greater immensity is the fact these migrants have already evolved into mobile communities all over Sabah, even to those secondary jungles and undeveloped hinterlands. This second factor requires an accurate census.

Less obvious is the fact Sabah being the poorest state in Malaysia is attracting these illegal. Apart from the oil palm plantations common to both Kalimantan and Sarawak, there barely is work in Sabah for her locals much less for these illegal. So why do they come to Sabah, and not to Sarawak or Kalimantan?

And again, there is widely known claims Southern Philippines has for Sabah. In addition, during Pairin times, the security committee for Sabah was in the hands of the Federal department; i.e. Pairin had no say at all on the illegal migrant daily boat loads. 

Get ourselves sober. PR has no ready real solutions for Sabah. 

The solution lies with a principled Malaysian. It must start with Sabah. 

Pairin is one of the appropriate persons to describe the problems associated with these migrants. In describing accurately, one hopes to describe the actual problems. Until then, the fuel that feed such problems cannot be fully understood. And until then, there might not be any evacuation plans, just as Myanmar took the Nagris full frontal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leaving unsaid the obvious, the illegal migrants in Sabah requires a tremendous will power and resources to get it somewhat within control, again. The fuel that feed it MUST be correctly understood if an effective handle is sought. I doubt PR [ DAP,PAS,PKR] has a ready solution, and nothing less than a fully principled approach would do Malaysia the real solution for what it has – a mushrooming illegal migrant growth akin to a Force 3 thyphoon.  And there should be an evacuation plan should the ‘thypoon’ reach Force 5.</p>
<p>Firstly, the common denominator with almost all of these migrants is the religion they profess – Muslim.  Reports have it that some Christians economic migrants from southern Philippine have used religion, saying they are Muslims, to ease their passage for project IC or the IMM 13. [And I thought project IC was just a call name until I heard for myself an NRD lady staff directing an applicant to see a senior officer as she suspected the applicant was using a project ic to apply for the bunga raya ic at the Dang Bandang Kota Kinabalu some years ago.] In the spirit of brotherhood, a majority Muslim country like Malaysia has to be seen as caring.</p>
<p>Of greater immensity is the fact these migrants have already evolved into mobile communities all over Sabah, even to those secondary jungles and undeveloped hinterlands. This second factor requires an accurate census.</p>
<p>Less obvious is the fact Sabah being the poorest state in Malaysia is attracting these illegal. Apart from the oil palm plantations common to both Kalimantan and Sarawak, there barely is work in Sabah for her locals much less for these illegal. So why do they come to Sabah, and not to Sarawak or Kalimantan?</p>
<p>And again, there is widely known claims Southern Philippines has for Sabah. In addition, during Pairin times, the security committee for Sabah was in the hands of the Federal department; i.e. Pairin had no say at all on the illegal migrant daily boat loads. </p>
<p>Get ourselves sober. PR has no ready real solutions for Sabah. </p>
<p>The solution lies with a principled Malaysian. It must start with Sabah. </p>
<p>Pairin is one of the appropriate persons to describe the problems associated with these migrants. In describing accurately, one hopes to describe the actual problems. Until then, the fuel that feed such problems cannot be fully understood. And until then, there might not be any evacuation plans, just as Myanmar took the Nagris full frontal</p>
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		<title>By: year of snake</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/14/sabah-on-fire-in-parliament-2/comment-page-1/#comment-104212</link>
		<dc:creator>year of snake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 05:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first visited KK during the early 70&#039;s, I was surprised when my friend just park his car without locking it.  When I ask him he told me that it is safe as nobody will steal from the car.  Nowadays, everyone locks their cars and if they can afford they will have shattered proof windows in their car.  When they join Malaysia the population was around 500 thousands and Sarawak was about 700 thousands. Now Sarawak has around 1.7 million and Sabah more than 3 million and you don&#039;t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out how Sabah&#039;s population exploded.  Sabah would need a PR government to rectify this problem as BN have been unwilling to do so for the past 40 plus years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first visited KK during the early 70&#8242;s, I was surprised when my friend just park his car without locking it.  When I ask him he told me that it is safe as nobody will steal from the car.  Nowadays, everyone locks their cars and if they can afford they will have shattered proof windows in their car.  When they join Malaysia the population was around 500 thousands and Sarawak was about 700 thousands. Now Sarawak has around 1.7 million and Sabah more than 3 million and you don&#8217;t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out how Sabah&#8217;s population exploded.  Sabah would need a PR government to rectify this problem as BN have been unwilling to do so for the past 40 plus years.</p>
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		<title>By: oknyua</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/14/sabah-on-fire-in-parliament-2/comment-page-1/#comment-104195</link>
		<dc:creator>oknyua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Illegals of Sabah
There is a certain irony that I cannot understand. UMNO representatives make noise but they are placed there by the illegals. Think about it.
 
The illegals cannot get IC without recommendations of the politicians, no way. There are estimated 2 millions illegals against 1 million citizens. Is this the problem of today? Don’t Musa Aman knew about this? Don’t you think Pairin is aware? 

The issue surfaces because UMNO MPs do not get what they want. That is the reality. Don’t forget these are the same MPs that hopped around before. 
Of course the local citizens suffer. Come on lah, KK is not like KL and to see street urchins running here and there is unnerving. They are children of non-citizens. Their parents are the source of many crimes in the state. And if such scenes are welcomed, it is a lie. 

But while citizens see the racial mess in KK, don’t the politicians see them too? Many of these issues have nothing to do with KL, much as I don’t like KL administration. The MPs themselves have something to gain from illegals.

As Mr Smith mentioned above, to clean this, only PR administration is the last hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illegals of Sabah<br />
There is a certain irony that I cannot understand. UMNO representatives make noise but they are placed there by the illegals. Think about it.</p>
<p>The illegals cannot get IC without recommendations of the politicians, no way. There are estimated 2 millions illegals against 1 million citizens. Is this the problem of today? Don’t Musa Aman knew about this? Don’t you think Pairin is aware? </p>
<p>The issue surfaces because UMNO MPs do not get what they want. That is the reality. Don’t forget these are the same MPs that hopped around before.<br />
Of course the local citizens suffer. Come on lah, KK is not like KL and to see street urchins running here and there is unnerving. They are children of non-citizens. Their parents are the source of many crimes in the state. And if such scenes are welcomed, it is a lie. </p>
<p>But while citizens see the racial mess in KK, don’t the politicians see them too? Many of these issues have nothing to do with KL, much as I don’t like KL administration. The MPs themselves have something to gain from illegals.</p>
<p>As Mr Smith mentioned above, to clean this, only PR administration is the last hope.</p>
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		<title>By: kingkenny</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/14/sabah-on-fire-in-parliament-2/comment-page-1/#comment-104190</link>
		<dc:creator>kingkenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 03:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YB Kit, 

instead of &quot;Sabah on Fire in Parliament&quot;, I just personally think that this could be better &quot;sounding&quot;:

&quot;FIRE IN SABAH LAH, PARLIAMENT!&quot; (RUN!) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YB Kit, </p>
<p>instead of &#8220;Sabah on Fire in Parliament&#8221;, I just personally think that this could be better &#8220;sounding&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;FIRE IN SABAH LAH, PARLIAMENT!&#8221; (RUN!) :)</p>
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		<title>By: kerishamuddinitis</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/14/sabah-on-fire-in-parliament-2/comment-page-1/#comment-104179</link>
		<dc:creator>kerishamuddinitis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 03:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the non-Malays and non-Muslims are fretting over the extent and rate at which all these immigrants of the same Muslim faith and the same skin colour can easily obtain IC&#039;s and even citizenship, what do Malaysian-born Malays think about it? 

It will take not only the people of Sabah and Sarawak to wake up and realise they must put a stop to this. It also takes the combined will and voice in unison from the Malays in Peninsula Malaysia as well to stop this. And Malays can only do this if they acknowledge and accept deep in their hearts that THEY MUST JUNK UMNO, NOW! 

Because of what UMNO have done, they are now facing intense competition from these Muslim, therefore &#039;Malay&#039;, foreigners. Just look around and we can see the massive numbers of places and businesses where Malays have been displaced by &#039;Malays.&#039; 

That is what KETUANAN MELAYU has created! The non-Malays in this country, born of this country, have far less to worry about because by 2050, the invasion and displacment will have been completed to allow all Malays the political might to change the constitution at will. At an estmated mere 20% of the population, the non-Malays will simply be shouted down by 80% of the population. 

So, this fight is really a fight that our East Malaysian brethren and our Peninsula Malay brethern have to fight.

Thankfully, we have DSAI, a Malay, who is pushing for KETUANAN RAKYAT, not ketuanan Melayu. By definition therefore, &#039;rakyat&#039; means the citizens of Malaysia, and not a supremicist race, that will determine the policies of this nation for the good of all Malaysians and not foreigners who slip into the country or who are imported into the country to do the bidding of BN and UMNO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the non-Malays and non-Muslims are fretting over the extent and rate at which all these immigrants of the same Muslim faith and the same skin colour can easily obtain IC&#8217;s and even citizenship, what do Malaysian-born Malays think about it? </p>
<p>It will take not only the people of Sabah and Sarawak to wake up and realise they must put a stop to this. It also takes the combined will and voice in unison from the Malays in Peninsula Malaysia as well to stop this. And Malays can only do this if they acknowledge and accept deep in their hearts that THEY MUST JUNK UMNO, NOW! </p>
<p>Because of what UMNO have done, they are now facing intense competition from these Muslim, therefore &#8216;Malay&#8217;, foreigners. Just look around and we can see the massive numbers of places and businesses where Malays have been displaced by &#8216;Malays.&#8217; </p>
<p>That is what KETUANAN MELAYU has created! The non-Malays in this country, born of this country, have far less to worry about because by 2050, the invasion and displacment will have been completed to allow all Malays the political might to change the constitution at will. At an estmated mere 20% of the population, the non-Malays will simply be shouted down by 80% of the population. </p>
<p>So, this fight is really a fight that our East Malaysian brethren and our Peninsula Malay brethern have to fight.</p>
<p>Thankfully, we have DSAI, a Malay, who is pushing for KETUANAN RAKYAT, not ketuanan Melayu. By definition therefore, &#8216;rakyat&#8217; means the citizens of Malaysia, and not a supremicist race, that will determine the policies of this nation for the good of all Malaysians and not foreigners who slip into the country or who are imported into the country to do the bidding of BN and UMNO.</p>
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		<title>By: i_love_malaysia</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/14/sabah-on-fire-in-parliament-2/comment-page-1/#comment-104171</link>
		<dc:creator>i_love_malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 02:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please search google on supreme race and you will see the similarity:

&quot;http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=en&amp;q=supreme+race+german+hitler&amp;meta=&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please search google on supreme race and you will see the similarity:</p>
<p>&#8220;http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=en&amp;q=supreme+race+german+hitler&amp;meta=&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sotong</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/14/sabah-on-fire-in-parliament-2/comment-page-1/#comment-104168</link>
		<dc:creator>sotong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 02:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The greatest threat to our country is the FACELESS racial and religious extremists, thugs and crooks in the position of trust, power and influence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The greatest threat to our country is the FACELESS racial and religious extremists, thugs and crooks in the position of trust, power and influence.</p>
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		<title>By: i_love_malaysia</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/14/sabah-on-fire-in-parliament-2/comment-page-1/#comment-104167</link>
		<dc:creator>i_love_malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 02:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BUMIPUTRA is no longer a term that enjoy much attention, now, it is SUPREME RACE!!! the same term used by Hitler, the Nazis German Chancellor!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BUMIPUTRA is no longer a term that enjoy much attention, now, it is SUPREME RACE!!! the same term used by Hitler, the Nazis German Chancellor!!!</p>
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		<title>By: i_love_malaysia</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/14/sabah-on-fire-in-parliament-2/comment-page-1/#comment-104163</link>
		<dc:creator>i_love_malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 02:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is an open secret that Indonesians, Thais, Phillipino etc etc were given Citizenships easily as 123 as long as they were &quot;qualified&quot;. The qualification is that they must be MUSLIM and SKIN COLOUR must be more or less the same as the local SUPREME RACE race!!! 
I personally withnessed one Indonesian labourer being given a red IC in the NRD branch and told softly by the official that there wont be any problem that he will get a blue IC in around 2 years time!!! I knew a Singaporean friend who married a Malaysian Chinese girl and setup a factory in Malaysia for 10 years, but he failed to get a PR (Red IC) after numerous applications!!! at the end, he was so fed up with Malaysia Govn. that he went back to Singapore with his family!!! just imagine how much taxes and other benefits that Malaysia has lost as a result of him going back to S&#039;pore!!! Why we may ask and the answer is very very clear, basically he is not MUSLIM and not belonging to the same SUPREME RACE!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is an open secret that Indonesians, Thais, Phillipino etc etc were given Citizenships easily as 123 as long as they were &#8220;qualified&#8221;. The qualification is that they must be MUSLIM and SKIN COLOUR must be more or less the same as the local SUPREME RACE race!!!<br />
I personally withnessed one Indonesian labourer being given a red IC in the NRD branch and told softly by the official that there wont be any problem that he will get a blue IC in around 2 years time!!! I knew a Singaporean friend who married a Malaysian Chinese girl and setup a factory in Malaysia for 10 years, but he failed to get a PR (Red IC) after numerous applications!!! at the end, he was so fed up with Malaysia Govn. that he went back to Singapore with his family!!! just imagine how much taxes and other benefits that Malaysia has lost as a result of him going back to S&#8217;pore!!! Why we may ask and the answer is very very clear, basically he is not MUSLIM and not belonging to the same SUPREME RACE!!!</p>
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