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	<title>Comments on: Grand Saga &#8211; the bully at Bandar Makhota Cheras</title>
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		<title>By: myint3</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/comment-page-4/#comment-105934</link>
		<dc:creator>myint3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know whether it is legal but has anyone thought of setting up a website, a watchdog of sort against excessive force/brutality by the police against our MP and rakyat? I&#039;m sure this will put them in their place. They will think twice before they beat up an MP, like ktteokt said, the very people they beat will become their direct boss. It&#039;s not a matter of if, it is when. 

I see so many YouTube footage where the police blatantly use excessive force against MPs and the rakyat. Unjustifiable force. Post the police officer&#039;s face in the website along with his numbers where possible, attach the video footage. When the new government comes in, a disciplinary committee can be set up and go after these police who brutalized the MPs and rakyat. Kinda like those war crime tribunals. They cannot hide behind their badges and kick and punch people around like that without justifiable cause.  

If such a website exists, those rogue police will think twice before they beat up our MPs or rakyat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know whether it is legal but has anyone thought of setting up a website, a watchdog of sort against excessive force/brutality by the police against our MP and rakyat? I&#8217;m sure this will put them in their place. They will think twice before they beat up an MP, like ktteokt said, the very people they beat will become their direct boss. It&#8217;s not a matter of if, it is when. </p>
<p>I see so many YouTube footage where the police blatantly use excessive force against MPs and the rakyat. Unjustifiable force. Post the police officer&#8217;s face in the website along with his numbers where possible, attach the video footage. When the new government comes in, a disciplinary committee can be set up and go after these police who brutalized the MPs and rakyat. Kinda like those war crime tribunals. They cannot hide behind their badges and kick and punch people around like that without justifiable cause.  </p>
<p>If such a website exists, those rogue police will think twice before they beat up our MPs or rakyat.</p>
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		<title>By: ktteokt</title>
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		<dc:creator>ktteokt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 13:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The police is forgetting that the one they beat up now may one day be their direct boss!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The police is forgetting that the one they beat up now may one day be their direct boss!</p>
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		<title>By: bunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>bunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 16:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To mikecivic2003,

The construction of the access road and the connection to Grand Saga was approved by the LLM subject to Narajaya paying the compensation to Grand Saga and some other conditions la. However Narajaya refused to pay the compensation and went ahead to build the road. I am 100% sure on this.

I am not sure how Narajaya spent the RM5000/house sold la - maybe to build the road only and not sure where the balance (if any) gone to. 

To myint3,

Read the comments above... Selangor State Govt has interest in Grand Saga indirectly since day 1... interesting rite?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To mikecivic2003,</p>
<p>The construction of the access road and the connection to Grand Saga was approved by the LLM subject to Narajaya paying the compensation to Grand Saga and some other conditions la. However Narajaya refused to pay the compensation and went ahead to build the road. I am 100% sure on this.</p>
<p>I am not sure how Narajaya spent the RM5000/house sold la &#8211; maybe to build the road only and not sure where the balance (if any) gone to. </p>
<p>To myint3,</p>
<p>Read the comments above&#8230; Selangor State Govt has interest in Grand Saga indirectly since day 1&#8230; interesting rite?</p>
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		<title>By: myint3</title>
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		<dc:creator>myint3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 08:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who are the people behind Grand Saga anyway. Forgive me for my ignorance. Why is the FRU at their disposal? Why are they so great that the Police is emboldened by their (Grand Saga) authority to even beat up an MP! When the police beat up YB Lim, they are not just beating up an individual.They are symbolically beating up the thousands of rakyat who voted him as their MP. YB Lim represent these voters/rakyat, he is their voice. So police, you are beating the rakyat. 

Tsk tsk tsk. Police! police!. When we need you to catch criminals, you take your own sweet time but when it comes to beating up civilians, tax payers who pay your salary, wah sei, you do it with gusto and efficiency.  

Can someone enlighten us who has vested interest in Grand Saga.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are the people behind Grand Saga anyway. Forgive me for my ignorance. Why is the FRU at their disposal? Why are they so great that the Police is emboldened by their (Grand Saga) authority to even beat up an MP! When the police beat up YB Lim, they are not just beating up an individual.They are symbolically beating up the thousands of rakyat who voted him as their MP. YB Lim represent these voters/rakyat, he is their voice. So police, you are beating the rakyat. </p>
<p>Tsk tsk tsk. Police! police!. When we need you to catch criminals, you take your own sweet time but when it comes to beating up civilians, tax payers who pay your salary, wah sei, you do it with gusto and efficiency.  </p>
<p>Can someone enlighten us who has vested interest in Grand Saga.</p>
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		<title>By: ktteokt</title>
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		<dc:creator>ktteokt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the first place, who approved the access road to BMC? And why is the &quot;jurisdiction&quot; of Grand Saga higher than the authority which approved the access road to be built?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the first place, who approved the access road to BMC? And why is the &#8220;jurisdiction&#8221; of Grand Saga higher than the authority which approved the access road to be built?</p>
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		<title>By: mikecivic2003</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/comment-page-3/#comment-104148</link>
		<dc:creator>mikecivic2003</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 02:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Bunny,

Hi.. i though Narajaya did pay compensation to GrandSaga on the access road? as each house sold they have to pay Rm 5000 for the access road. Now im really confuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Bunny,</p>
<p>Hi.. i though Narajaya did pay compensation to GrandSaga on the access road? as each house sold they have to pay Rm 5000 for the access road. Now im really confuse.</p>
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		<title>By: lopez</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/comment-page-3/#comment-104063</link>
		<dc:creator>lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 14:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Public conveniences used to be the responsibility of the gomen, whose officers are empowered to protect the people interest, Some claimed we r a develped nation similar to DEVELOPED NATIONS AND COMMUNITIES BY INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS (relative)
The same fools and idiots drawing each month salary and perks at the tax payer&#039;s expense , now take sides for a Commercial entity where they have entered into matrimony for mutual gain.
It is begining to show there must be some very big mistake by these gaji buta entering into a bias contract and now cannot back off unless some one forego his pension.
How else it is not helping to resolve such simple problem where big building s can be demolished overnight despite ,,,,..

it is getting smeely already......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public conveniences used to be the responsibility of the gomen, whose officers are empowered to protect the people interest, Some claimed we r a develped nation similar to DEVELOPED NATIONS AND COMMUNITIES BY INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS (relative)<br />
The same fools and idiots drawing each month salary and perks at the tax payer&#8217;s expense , now take sides for a Commercial entity where they have entered into matrimony for mutual gain.<br />
It is begining to show there must be some very big mistake by these gaji buta entering into a bias contract and now cannot back off unless some one forego his pension.<br />
How else it is not helping to resolve such simple problem where big building s can be demolished overnight despite ,,,,..</p>
<p>it is getting smeely already&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: darcwil</title>
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		<dc:creator>darcwil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 07:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Reading again the manifesto set out by PKR posted by Killer above, they are very visonary indeed, yes. But a bit far fetched and positivist. I&#039;m not saying it is not possible, but come on events in Selangor not really living up to much of it...

Now what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Reading again the manifesto set out by PKR posted by Killer above, they are very visonary indeed, yes. But a bit far fetched and positivist. I&#8217;m not saying it is not possible, but come on events in Selangor not really living up to much of it&#8230;</p>
<p>Now what?</p>
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		<title>By: bunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>bunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 07:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Federal Govt money = our (tax payer) money i.e income tax, service tax..
State Govt money = our (tax payer) money i.e. cukai tanah, quit rent..

If Federal Govt compensate Grand Saga, that means WE are paying the toll UPFRONT

If NO one compensate Grand Saga, shareholders of Grand Saga (i.e. KDE, investment arm of Selangor) will lost money immediate. Where is money from? From US.. and they will left with less money to maintain the welfare of the Selangor residents.

If Narajaya compensate Grand Saga, Narajaya will JUST need to reduce the profit that have made from the house buyers of BMC. None of our money will be used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Federal Govt money = our (tax payer) money i.e income tax, service tax..<br />
State Govt money = our (tax payer) money i.e. cukai tanah, quit rent..</p>
<p>If Federal Govt compensate Grand Saga, that means WE are paying the toll UPFRONT</p>
<p>If NO one compensate Grand Saga, shareholders of Grand Saga (i.e. KDE, investment arm of Selangor) will lost money immediate. Where is money from? From US.. and they will left with less money to maintain the welfare of the Selangor residents.</p>
<p>If Narajaya compensate Grand Saga, Narajaya will JUST need to reduce the profit that have made from the house buyers of BMC. None of our money will be used.</p>
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		<title>By: bunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>bunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 07:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear wesuffer,

I totally understand the pains suffered by the BMC residents as I so have some friends staying there too. Putting a toll booth is merely a suggestion which I can think of for the time being after considering all the legal stand points as well as everyone loses and gains.

Have your ever see the masterplan before? Have you ever see the highway alignment plan before? This access road really does not appear as part of the linkage to the highway. The linkage to Cheras Perdana and Hussein Onn were clearly stated in the alignment plan. I got to know this due to some jobs that i was working on 1 year ago. 

If I am not mistaken, Narajaya&#039;s 1st approval back in 1994 was obtained from State Govt but the development did not kick start till much later due to financial crisis at Lion Group. Subsequently in 1995, the Federal Govt decided to privatize and upgrade the old Jalan Cheras and Kumpulan Peransang Selangor Berhad (KPS)  won the concession and incorporated Grand Saga Sdn Bhd with some other small investors to undertake the project. 

Do you know who is KPS??? KPS is belongs to Kumpulan Dahrul Ehsan Berhad - the investment arm of the Selangor State Govt!!! 

Anyway KPS has already some enuff money by selling Grand Saga to new investors few years ago!! 

Now you tell me who is the real culprit ? Grand Saga or State &amp; Federal Govt ?

Another thing, Narajaya should not have promised a toll free access to the residents when they did not have any final/absolute approval to build the access road from Federal Govt. Why no resident file a suit again Narajaya for misrepresentation to the house buyers?? 

Frankly speaking, the Grand Saga has a strong concession agreement to protect their interest, Federal Govt can always taking the agreement stand point by not opening the road. 

Guess who has the weakest point here?? Not Grand Saga like most of us thought of... it is Narajaya (the joker hiding behind the shits and let you, the resident and poor MP to fight). Why are there so silent? 

Any developer who wanna link new access road &quot;which is no listed in the alignment plan&quot; would require to compensate the highway concessionaire. This is a standard clause in any highway concession agreement around the world.  Narajaya should know this before the access road was built as the approval from JKR SHOULD have stated that the compensation to Grand Saga as one of the condition to the approval. Obviously Narajaya just ignore it and continue to build the road and that&#039;s why the JKR did not instruct Grand Saga to open the barricade.

Wake up!!! You r whacking the wrong guy. Ask Narajaya to compensate the house buyers if the road remains closed or Narajaya to compensate Grand Saga in order to open the road !!!

Think hard... who has make all the housebuyers money?? it&#039;s  Narajaya!! Developer always sweet talk us when selling us the house and then went disappear when problems comes.. Why? Because the money already in the pocket, u think they will ever vomit it out again??? Instead of filing a suit against Grand Saga, why not file against Narajaya???

If Govt ever be the one to compensate Grand Saga, it will be using OUR MONEY... then what&#039;s the difference by us paying the toll???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear wesuffer,</p>
<p>I totally understand the pains suffered by the BMC residents as I so have some friends staying there too. Putting a toll booth is merely a suggestion which I can think of for the time being after considering all the legal stand points as well as everyone loses and gains.</p>
<p>Have your ever see the masterplan before? Have you ever see the highway alignment plan before? This access road really does not appear as part of the linkage to the highway. The linkage to Cheras Perdana and Hussein Onn were clearly stated in the alignment plan. I got to know this due to some jobs that i was working on 1 year ago. </p>
<p>If I am not mistaken, Narajaya&#8217;s 1st approval back in 1994 was obtained from State Govt but the development did not kick start till much later due to financial crisis at Lion Group. Subsequently in 1995, the Federal Govt decided to privatize and upgrade the old Jalan Cheras and Kumpulan Peransang Selangor Berhad (KPS)  won the concession and incorporated Grand Saga Sdn Bhd with some other small investors to undertake the project. </p>
<p>Do you know who is KPS??? KPS is belongs to Kumpulan Dahrul Ehsan Berhad &#8211; the investment arm of the Selangor State Govt!!! </p>
<p>Anyway KPS has already some enuff money by selling Grand Saga to new investors few years ago!! </p>
<p>Now you tell me who is the real culprit ? Grand Saga or State &amp; Federal Govt ?</p>
<p>Another thing, Narajaya should not have promised a toll free access to the residents when they did not have any final/absolute approval to build the access road from Federal Govt. Why no resident file a suit again Narajaya for misrepresentation to the house buyers?? </p>
<p>Frankly speaking, the Grand Saga has a strong concession agreement to protect their interest, Federal Govt can always taking the agreement stand point by not opening the road. </p>
<p>Guess who has the weakest point here?? Not Grand Saga like most of us thought of&#8230; it is Narajaya (the joker hiding behind the shits and let you, the resident and poor MP to fight). Why are there so silent? </p>
<p>Any developer who wanna link new access road &#8220;which is no listed in the alignment plan&#8221; would require to compensate the highway concessionaire. This is a standard clause in any highway concession agreement around the world.  Narajaya should know this before the access road was built as the approval from JKR SHOULD have stated that the compensation to Grand Saga as one of the condition to the approval. Obviously Narajaya just ignore it and continue to build the road and that&#8217;s why the JKR did not instruct Grand Saga to open the barricade.</p>
<p>Wake up!!! You r whacking the wrong guy. Ask Narajaya to compensate the house buyers if the road remains closed or Narajaya to compensate Grand Saga in order to open the road !!!</p>
<p>Think hard&#8230; who has make all the housebuyers money?? it&#8217;s  Narajaya!! Developer always sweet talk us when selling us the house and then went disappear when problems comes.. Why? Because the money already in the pocket, u think they will ever vomit it out again??? Instead of filing a suit against Grand Saga, why not file against Narajaya???</p>
<p>If Govt ever be the one to compensate Grand Saga, it will be using OUR MONEY&#8230; then what&#8217;s the difference by us paying the toll???</p>
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		<title>By: Killer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Killer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 03:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is from Aisehman....


For Whom The Bells Toll 
16 March 2008 &#124; 774 Views 
So here we go. A promise is a promise.

In PKR’s manifesto for the general election, the word toll was mentioned four times:

… Tolls and tariffs will also no longer be raised unreasonably only to satisfy conglomerates and corporate interests.

… With the billions that can be saved by avoiding scandals like the Port Klang Free Zone, multi-million ringgit arms commissions and grossly disadvantageous toll and tariff concessions, KeADILan will immediately bring down the price of petrol and stabilise the prices of basic goods, tariffs and tolls.

… Toll and tariff concessions that favour corporate interests by being disadvantageous against Malaysians must be immediately renegotiated.

I was reading the latest issue of The Edge when I came across this:

Selangor is the state government with the most number of listed companies, all housed under unlisted Kumpulan Darul Ehsan Bhd (KDEB)

… KDEB … has a 20% stake in Taliworks Corp Bhd, which … has the concession for the Cheras-Kajang Highway.

… Among the unlisted entities where KDEB has stakes are … Sistem Penyuraian Trafik KL Barat Holding Bhd, better known as the Sprint Highway. 

Tan Sri Khalid, the road ahead is clear — it’s the people’s way or the highway.

We await your move on this matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is from Aisehman&#8230;.</p>
<p>For Whom The Bells Toll<br />
16 March 2008 | 774 Views<br />
So here we go. A promise is a promise.</p>
<p>In PKR’s manifesto for the general election, the word toll was mentioned four times:</p>
<p>… Tolls and tariffs will also no longer be raised unreasonably only to satisfy conglomerates and corporate interests.</p>
<p>… With the billions that can be saved by avoiding scandals like the Port Klang Free Zone, multi-million ringgit arms commissions and grossly disadvantageous toll and tariff concessions, KeADILan will immediately bring down the price of petrol and stabilise the prices of basic goods, tariffs and tolls.</p>
<p>… Toll and tariff concessions that favour corporate interests by being disadvantageous against Malaysians must be immediately renegotiated.</p>
<p>I was reading the latest issue of The Edge when I came across this:</p>
<p>Selangor is the state government with the most number of listed companies, all housed under unlisted Kumpulan Darul Ehsan Bhd (KDEB)</p>
<p>… KDEB … has a 20% stake in Taliworks Corp Bhd, which … has the concession for the Cheras-Kajang Highway.</p>
<p>… Among the unlisted entities where KDEB has stakes are … Sistem Penyuraian Trafik KL Barat Holding Bhd, better known as the Sprint Highway. </p>
<p>Tan Sri Khalid, the road ahead is clear — it’s the people’s way or the highway.</p>
<p>We await your move on this matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Killer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Killer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 03:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pakatan Rakyat accused of lawlessness        
Wednesday, 07 May 2008 08:08am  

 • Kit Siang gets back his kind of Dewan grilling

©New Straits Times (Used by permission)

THE Pakatan Rakyat has been accused of condoning lawlessness

Datuk Tiong King Sing (BN-Bintulu) said MPs from PR had supported a group of Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents in removing the barriers placed across an access road to the Kajang-Cheras highway.

The road was built by Narajaya Sdn Bhd, the developer of the Bandar Mahkota Cheras township, to ensure speedy access to the highway.

However, Grand Saga, the highway&#039;s concessionaire, was against the access road as it would bypass the Batu 11 toll plaza.

Bandar Mahkota Cheras motorists would have to pay a 90 sen toll if there was no access road.

The road, built three years ago, was barricaded upon completion due to the tussle between Grand Saga and Narajaya.

However, 10 days ago, residents and elected representatives from PR removed the barriers.

Tiong demanded to know from Lim Kit Siang (DAP-Ipoh Timur) if he condoned such lawlessness from his party men.

&quot;Is this not abuse of power?&quot; he asked during the debate on the King&#039;s speech.

Lim Lip Eng (DAP-Segambut), who was present at the Cheras incident at the end of last month, interjected and said they did not take the law into their hands.

Teo Nie Ching (DAP-Serdang), who was also there, defended her role and said that it was within the prerogative of the state government to remove the barriers.

Kit Siang said he was not aware of what his party men had done.

&quot;I don&#039;t know about this,&quot; he said brushing aside Tiong&#039;s claim that the DAP leaders had been involved in an unlawful act.

Later, Selangor Menteri Besar Tan Sri Abdul Khalid Ibrahim said at the lobby of Parliament that the state government did not condone an illegal act.

&quot;The state would not like to break the law,&quot; he said adding that the people were seeking to expedite the decision-making process involved in opening the access road. He added the state government wanted to find an amicable solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pakatan Rakyat accused of lawlessness<br />
Wednesday, 07 May 2008 08:08am  </p>
<p> • Kit Siang gets back his kind of Dewan grilling</p>
<p>©New Straits Times (Used by permission)</p>
<p>THE Pakatan Rakyat has been accused of condoning lawlessness</p>
<p>Datuk Tiong King Sing (BN-Bintulu) said MPs from PR had supported a group of Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents in removing the barriers placed across an access road to the Kajang-Cheras highway.</p>
<p>The road was built by Narajaya Sdn Bhd, the developer of the Bandar Mahkota Cheras township, to ensure speedy access to the highway.</p>
<p>However, Grand Saga, the highway&#8217;s concessionaire, was against the access road as it would bypass the Batu 11 toll plaza.</p>
<p>Bandar Mahkota Cheras motorists would have to pay a 90 sen toll if there was no access road.</p>
<p>The road, built three years ago, was barricaded upon completion due to the tussle between Grand Saga and Narajaya.</p>
<p>However, 10 days ago, residents and elected representatives from PR removed the barriers.</p>
<p>Tiong demanded to know from Lim Kit Siang (DAP-Ipoh Timur) if he condoned such lawlessness from his party men.</p>
<p>&#8220;Is this not abuse of power?&#8221; he asked during the debate on the King&#8217;s speech.</p>
<p>Lim Lip Eng (DAP-Segambut), who was present at the Cheras incident at the end of last month, interjected and said they did not take the law into their hands.</p>
<p>Teo Nie Ching (DAP-Serdang), who was also there, defended her role and said that it was within the prerogative of the state government to remove the barriers.</p>
<p>Kit Siang said he was not aware of what his party men had done.</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t know about this,&#8221; he said brushing aside Tiong&#8217;s claim that the DAP leaders had been involved in an unlawful act.</p>
<p>Later, Selangor Menteri Besar Tan Sri Abdul Khalid Ibrahim said at the lobby of Parliament that the state government did not condone an illegal act.</p>
<p>&#8220;The state would not like to break the law,&#8221; he said adding that the people were seeking to expedite the decision-making process involved in opening the access road. He added the state government wanted to find an amicable solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Killer</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 02:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time for Khalid Ibrahim to go 
Richard Teo &#124; May 12, 08 4:40pm 
I refer to the Malaysiakini report Barricade row: Pakatan state gov’t &#039;weak’.

Ever since the beginning when Pakatan Rakyat under Khalid Ibrahim took over the reins of the Selangor government, there was already signs of a weak government. 

Events until now have not dispelled those lingering doubts. Immediately after taking control of the government, there was strong compelling evidence that the previous administration was shredding important state documents which could have incriminated their administration and yet Khalid chose to ignore them with a nonchalant attitude as if it was of little importance.

That single act of omission has virtually deprived the rakyat of the opportunity to punish those perpetrators of their crime for which they were so eager to conceal and destroy.

When Penang&#039;s chief minister announced their intention to abolish the NEP and replace it with one that is more equitable there was a deafening silence from the Selangor state government. 

Either Khalid didn’t hear the announcement or he had totally forgotten about the Pakatan&#039;s manifesto.

Khalid&#039;s reluctance to prosecute those Umno leaders responsible for shredding those state documents is understandable. After all, he was once a blue-eyed boy of Umno who so happened to lose their favour sometime ago. 

Fortune has been kind to him and now that he is in the driver&#039;s seat, he is slowly remembering his old Umno roots. 

As long as Selangor continues to be under the helm of Khalid, there will be little change from its previous Umno predeccessor. After all both Khalid and Mohd Khir Toyo came from the same Umno origin.

In the case of the Bandar Makhota Cheras barricade, the whole matter could have been expeditiously resolved if there was strong leadership. 

Land in the state comes under state jurisdiction and if the incumbent government cannot even settle what is within their purview then Pakatan Rakyat is heading for a very short term.

Five years in politics is a very short time. If the Pakatan cannot reform the state governments like it promised, then maybe the rakyat will have to look for an alternative government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time for Khalid Ibrahim to go<br />
Richard Teo | May 12, 08 4:40pm<br />
I refer to the Malaysiakini report Barricade row: Pakatan state gov’t &#8216;weak’.</p>
<p>Ever since the beginning when Pakatan Rakyat under Khalid Ibrahim took over the reins of the Selangor government, there was already signs of a weak government. </p>
<p>Events until now have not dispelled those lingering doubts. Immediately after taking control of the government, there was strong compelling evidence that the previous administration was shredding important state documents which could have incriminated their administration and yet Khalid chose to ignore them with a nonchalant attitude as if it was of little importance.</p>
<p>That single act of omission has virtually deprived the rakyat of the opportunity to punish those perpetrators of their crime for which they were so eager to conceal and destroy.</p>
<p>When Penang&#8217;s chief minister announced their intention to abolish the NEP and replace it with one that is more equitable there was a deafening silence from the Selangor state government. </p>
<p>Either Khalid didn’t hear the announcement or he had totally forgotten about the Pakatan&#8217;s manifesto.</p>
<p>Khalid&#8217;s reluctance to prosecute those Umno leaders responsible for shredding those state documents is understandable. After all, he was once a blue-eyed boy of Umno who so happened to lose their favour sometime ago. </p>
<p>Fortune has been kind to him and now that he is in the driver&#8217;s seat, he is slowly remembering his old Umno roots. </p>
<p>As long as Selangor continues to be under the helm of Khalid, there will be little change from its previous Umno predeccessor. After all both Khalid and Mohd Khir Toyo came from the same Umno origin.</p>
<p>In the case of the Bandar Makhota Cheras barricade, the whole matter could have been expeditiously resolved if there was strong leadership. </p>
<p>Land in the state comes under state jurisdiction and if the incumbent government cannot even settle what is within their purview then Pakatan Rakyat is heading for a very short term.</p>
<p>Five years in politics is a very short time. If the Pakatan cannot reform the state governments like it promised, then maybe the rakyat will have to look for an alternative government.</p>
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		<description>Friday, May 09, 2008
Khalid Ibrahim refuses to turun padang to Cheras 
Sadly, Khalid Ibrahim as the first non-BN MB has failed the people of Cheras who had supported and voted him in as Federal MB for Bandar Tun Razak.

Malaysiakini tells us in its article Barricade row: Pakatan state gov&#039;t &#039;weak&#039; that the Bandar Mahkota Cheras (BMC) residents have slammed Khalid Ibrahim for refusing to order the Kajang Municipal Council into taking legal action against Grand Saga for erecting the illegal structure.

The Kajang Municipal Council has jurisdiction over the road on which the toll company has built a barrier to prevent Cheras residents from accessing the highway.

To add insult to injury, Khalid Ibrahim had turned down their invitation to visit the barricaded area. This is in contrast to the people&#039;s oriented action by Ronnie Liu, the DAP ADUN who is also a Selango exco member. Ronnie had turun padang almost immediately to look into the Cheras residents&#039; grievances.

Alamak, is Khalid&#039;s old red and white stripes showing though?

An emotional Tan Boon Hwa, who was assaulted by the police, cited Section 46 of the Street, Drainage and Building Act 1974, which states that anyone who erects an illegal structure in a public place can be arrested without warrant by any police officer or officer of the local authority.

Instead the residents who were the victims of the action of Grand Saga, an action taking place in a public place on Selangor State land, were battered and tear gas-ed by the police who arrived on the scene to support the actions of the road toll company.

And Khalid Ibrahim has not only avoided taking remedial action over the illegal structure, when he possesses the power to do so, but has also refused to visit the site which is victimising the pockets of the Cheras residents. snubbing the residents&#039; invitation.

What a lousy MB - is he any better than Khir Toyo for his apathy to the rakyat&#039;s genuine grievances and a big company&#039;s illegal action?

As I said, his stripes …….. or spots ........ may be showing through (looks like he&#039;s indicating those can never be changed).

Incidentally the Bandar Tun Razak parliamentary constituency has the second largest number of voters (72,628) in Kuala Lumpur after Seputeh. It embraces 19 housing estates: Taman Mulia, Taman Bukit Anggerik, ..... Batu 3-4 Jalan Cheras, ...... Taman Connaught, ........ Taman Len Sen and Taman Bukit Cheras.

Its residents comprises 52% Malays, 39% Chinese, and 8% Indians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friday, May 09, 2008<br />
Khalid Ibrahim refuses to turun padang to Cheras<br />
Sadly, Khalid Ibrahim as the first non-BN MB has failed the people of Cheras who had supported and voted him in as Federal MB for Bandar Tun Razak.</p>
<p>Malaysiakini tells us in its article Barricade row: Pakatan state gov&#8217;t &#8216;weak&#8217; that the Bandar Mahkota Cheras (BMC) residents have slammed Khalid Ibrahim for refusing to order the Kajang Municipal Council into taking legal action against Grand Saga for erecting the illegal structure.</p>
<p>The Kajang Municipal Council has jurisdiction over the road on which the toll company has built a barrier to prevent Cheras residents from accessing the highway.</p>
<p>To add insult to injury, Khalid Ibrahim had turned down their invitation to visit the barricaded area. This is in contrast to the people&#8217;s oriented action by Ronnie Liu, the DAP ADUN who is also a Selango exco member. Ronnie had turun padang almost immediately to look into the Cheras residents&#8217; grievances.</p>
<p>Alamak, is Khalid&#8217;s old red and white stripes showing though?</p>
<p>An emotional Tan Boon Hwa, who was assaulted by the police, cited Section 46 of the Street, Drainage and Building Act 1974, which states that anyone who erects an illegal structure in a public place can be arrested without warrant by any police officer or officer of the local authority.</p>
<p>Instead the residents who were the victims of the action of Grand Saga, an action taking place in a public place on Selangor State land, were battered and tear gas-ed by the police who arrived on the scene to support the actions of the road toll company.</p>
<p>And Khalid Ibrahim has not only avoided taking remedial action over the illegal structure, when he possesses the power to do so, but has also refused to visit the site which is victimising the pockets of the Cheras residents. snubbing the residents&#8217; invitation.</p>
<p>What a lousy MB &#8211; is he any better than Khir Toyo for his apathy to the rakyat&#8217;s genuine grievances and a big company&#8217;s illegal action?</p>
<p>As I said, his stripes …….. or spots &#8230;&#8230;.. may be showing through (looks like he&#8217;s indicating those can never be changed).</p>
<p>Incidentally the Bandar Tun Razak parliamentary constituency has the second largest number of voters (72,628) in Kuala Lumpur after Seputeh. It embraces 19 housing estates: Taman Mulia, Taman Bukit Anggerik, &#8230;.. Batu 3-4 Jalan Cheras, &#8230;&#8230; Taman Connaught, &#8230;&#8230;.. Taman Len Sen and Taman Bukit Cheras.</p>
<p>Its residents comprises 52% Malays, 39% Chinese, and 8% Indians.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 02:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is for mikecivic2003...taken from KTemoc&#039;s blog 



Khalid Ibrahim more concerned with Toll Company&#039;s revenue than Cheras residents&#039; rights 


Malaysiakini reported the case of a DAP MP for Segambut Lim Lip Eng as a &#039;street style&#039; MP

Lim became a household name when it was reported that he stood in front of a water cannon truck to prevent it from advancing and spraying the residents. He was then walloped by several plainclothes police officers until he had to be hospitalised.

Contrast this with Khalid Ibrahim who …

… now I quote Tony Pua who wrote in his blog (extracts):

… Khalid Ibrahim has acknowledged, as per the Star report yesterday that “the residents had the right to use the access road without having to pay toll”, it is disappointing that he had not taken a stronger stand on the issue, and in fact had not dealt with it much earlier when the FRU was first deployed, or even before that.

This has resulted in the situation clearly getting out of control, with a fracas between the residents and the FRU units in the wee hours of the morning 2 days ago ... and a Member of Parliament lying in the hospital at this point of time, having been assaulted by the police.

It is critical that the new state government demonstrate political will and determination to stand for what is right and just, without fear or favour, instead of wavering in uncertainty or adopting a “we will look into it” or “we will have to discuss further” culture which is reminiscent of the previous Barisan Nasional government. It is of great concern that Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim had qualified his statement on the “right of use” by saying that the state government must also take into consideration that the toll is the source of revenue for the company.

With the state ownership of the land no longer in dispute, the local government, in this case the Kajang Municipal Council (MPKj), must take all necessary actions to prevent illegal structures from being constructed on state land.

If an enforcement officer does not hesitate to compound a car parked temporarily but illegally on a state road, why should MPKj decline to take action, via compounds and summons, against the parties who are erecting a permanent structure in the middle of the road? In fact, any party who persist in constructing illegal barriers, in the face of compounds issued, must be charged in the court of law.

As the old adage that we members of the opposition is so fond of using, “justice must not only be done, but seen to be done”. The rakyat will be understandably discontented if the government enforces the law against the man on the street, while allows room for negotiation and delay when commercial interests are involved.

It is hence critical that the Menteri Besar of Selangor demonstrate much greater urgency in the matter, without letting the situation deteriorate further than it already has via inertia. If the first night&#039;s deployment of the FRU against residents who wanted the law upheld has not injected such urgency, then we certainly hope that the second night&#039;s deployment would have.

The new state government is being given certain leeway to perform by the people of Selangor. However, it will quickly lose its goodwill if the people&#039;s interest are not given priority.

As I said, scratch Khalid Ibrahim or some of those in PKR, and you will likely see red and white stripes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is for mikecivic2003&#8230;taken from KTemoc&#8217;s blog </p>
<p>Khalid Ibrahim more concerned with Toll Company&#8217;s revenue than Cheras residents&#8217; rights </p>
<p>Malaysiakini reported the case of a DAP MP for Segambut Lim Lip Eng as a &#8217;street style&#8217; MP</p>
<p>Lim became a household name when it was reported that he stood in front of a water cannon truck to prevent it from advancing and spraying the residents. He was then walloped by several plainclothes police officers until he had to be hospitalised.</p>
<p>Contrast this with Khalid Ibrahim who …</p>
<p>… now I quote Tony Pua who wrote in his blog (extracts):</p>
<p>… Khalid Ibrahim has acknowledged, as per the Star report yesterday that “the residents had the right to use the access road without having to pay toll”, it is disappointing that he had not taken a stronger stand on the issue, and in fact had not dealt with it much earlier when the FRU was first deployed, or even before that.</p>
<p>This has resulted in the situation clearly getting out of control, with a fracas between the residents and the FRU units in the wee hours of the morning 2 days ago &#8230; and a Member of Parliament lying in the hospital at this point of time, having been assaulted by the police.</p>
<p>It is critical that the new state government demonstrate political will and determination to stand for what is right and just, without fear or favour, instead of wavering in uncertainty or adopting a “we will look into it” or “we will have to discuss further” culture which is reminiscent of the previous Barisan Nasional government. It is of great concern that Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim had qualified his statement on the “right of use” by saying that the state government must also take into consideration that the toll is the source of revenue for the company.</p>
<p>With the state ownership of the land no longer in dispute, the local government, in this case the Kajang Municipal Council (MPKj), must take all necessary actions to prevent illegal structures from being constructed on state land.</p>
<p>If an enforcement officer does not hesitate to compound a car parked temporarily but illegally on a state road, why should MPKj decline to take action, via compounds and summons, against the parties who are erecting a permanent structure in the middle of the road? In fact, any party who persist in constructing illegal barriers, in the face of compounds issued, must be charged in the court of law.</p>
<p>As the old adage that we members of the opposition is so fond of using, “justice must not only be done, but seen to be done”. The rakyat will be understandably discontented if the government enforces the law against the man on the street, while allows room for negotiation and delay when commercial interests are involved.</p>
<p>It is hence critical that the Menteri Besar of Selangor demonstrate much greater urgency in the matter, without letting the situation deteriorate further than it already has via inertia. If the first night&#8217;s deployment of the FRU against residents who wanted the law upheld has not injected such urgency, then we certainly hope that the second night&#8217;s deployment would have.</p>
<p>The new state government is being given certain leeway to perform by the people of Selangor. However, it will quickly lose its goodwill if the people&#8217;s interest are not given priority.</p>
<p>As I said, scratch Khalid Ibrahim or some of those in PKR, and you will likely see red and white stripes.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 01:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Killer,

I think no one blame BN or PR for anything.. the problem actually lies with the Highway Company, I was thinking each residents should launch a law suit to the Highway Company involved. Loss of income is not an excuse for closing a road that leads to a township. btw 

Rep: Grand Saga has no right to barricade access street
By CHARLES FERNANDEZ and JADE CHAN


KAJANG: The Cheras-Kajang Expressway operator has no right to barricade the road into Bandar Mahkota Cheras because a survey has found that it is located on state land.

Selangor executive councillor Ronnie Liu said a Survey and Mapping Department report had shown that the land on which Grand Saga Sdn Bhd had earlier erected a barrier to stop residents from using a toll-free road was state land.

The report and a map have been forwarded to state legal officer Datuk Zauyah Lothy Khan.

“Even before the survey, the state government had ample proof that the road was on state land.

“And until today, the highway concessionaire has yet to show documents to stake its claims,” he said at a press conference at the site yesterday.

The residents of Bandar Mahkota Cheras have been engaged in a battle with Grand Saga since 2005 over the use of a road which allows them a shorter and toll-free route into their housing area.

Grand Saga had earlier built barricades across the road but residents had dismantled the barriers.

The battle turned ugly on Thursday night when police used tear gas and water cannons to disperse crowds of residents who were trying to dismantle the latest barricade.

Liu said Grand Saga should just let the matter rest if it could not dispute the state government’s claim over who controlled the land. It should also not stop the residents from using the toll-free access road.

Liu said he would discuss with the Public Works Department to see if another access road running parallel to the highway belonged to the state to avoid another land controversy.

Grand Saga has applied for an injunction against Bandar Mahkota Cheras Open Access Road Committee chairman Tan Boon Wah, Liu and the Kajang Municipal Council to stop them from entering the expressway area.

Tan confirmed that he was served with an ex-parte injunction on Friday night.

Segambut MP Lim Lip Eng, who claimed he was injured during Thursday night’s commotion, said he admitted himself into the emergency ward of Selayang Hospital on Friday afternoon as he was in pain.

Relating Thursday’s events, Lim said: “A plainclothes officer grabbed me from behind and some burning hot liquid was blasted into my face, which temporarily blinded me. I then felt punches and kicks all over,” he said.

He said his car was damaged – tyres punctured, wipers ripped off, surface scratched and a number plate broken.

Folks have the right to use access road without paying toll, says Khalid
By WANI MUTHIAH and GEETHA KRISHNAN


SELANGOR Mentri Besar Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim said the state government will be holding a meeting with Cheras-Kajang Highway concessionaire Grand Saga Sdn Bhd and the Federal Government next week.

He said the meeting was to find a solution for the tussle between the concessionaire and Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents over the barricade erected by the former on the toll-free access road belonging to the Selangor government.

“We understand the problem as well as the plight of the people and will seek a quick solution,’’ said Khalid when met by Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents at the state secretariat building yesterday.

 
All ears: Liu (left) explaining the situation to Khalid at the SUK building in Shah Alam as Ean Yong (second from right) and Tan (right) look on.
 
He said the residents had the right to use the access road without having to pay toll but added that the problem could only be settled when all relevant parties had discussed the matter.

The residents arrived at the secretariat building yesterday at about 11am in a chartered bus and five cars to hand over a memorandum to Khalid. It was received by the his special duties assistant Mohd Yahya Sahri.

The crowd was also met by state executive councillors Ronnie Liu and Ean Yong Hean Wah.

Liu, who met reporters after speaking to the residents, said the concessionaire did not have the right to barricade the access road as it belonged to the state government.

He lambasted the police for taking sides and said that the police should maintain law and order instead of manhandling the residents on behalf of the concessionaire.

 
Under control: Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents watching the site in case Grand Saga blocks the road again.
 
“We have all the proof to show that the land belongs to the state government and we have informed the police about this but the police, which is under the control of the Federal Government, is not paying heed,’’ said Liu.

He added that he had spoken to the Selangor CPO Deputy Comm Datuk Khalid Abu Bakar over the phone but the latter had remained stubborn.

More than 100 policemen, including personnel from the Light Strike Force and the Federal Reserve Unit, were dispatched to the area on Thursday when the residents held a demonstration to protest against Grand Saga Sdn Bhd.

Police personnel fired water cannons several times to ward off the protestors who were riding motorcycles and speeding towards the police barricades.

Segambut MP Lim Lip Eng was allegedly assaulted when he pulled the plug of a generator before standing in front of a water cannon to prevent the police from aiming it at the crowd. He is presently recovering at the Selayang Hospital.

“The police must be neutral and not help Grand Saga Sdn Bhd put up the barricade. Since when did the police force go into construction?’’ asked Liu.

He said that he would be speaking to Khalid as well as state legal adviser Datin Paduka Zauyah Be T. Loth Khan to see what action could be taken against the concessionaire.

Liu said the residents also had the right to seek an injunction against the concessionaire as well as seek damages from it through legal recourse.

Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents had been maintaining a 24-hour vigil at the crossroads where the concrete barricade put up by Grand Saga was first dismantled on April 21.

But the tents and garden chairs which residents used while keeping an eye on the road were no longer there on Friday morning. Also missing were self-appointed traffic marshalls who helped to ensure the traffic situation was under control since the traffic lights were not synchronised.

Although small groups of residents were present at the site, the crowd was not as big as the 1,000-odd people who converged on Thursday night where four people including the Bandar Mahkota Cheras Open Access Road Committee chairman Tan Boon Wah were arrested.

To-date, Grand Saga has re-built the barricade twice and on both occasions, residents had broken down the barrier.

“They can keep building the barricade but we will keep destroying it,” said Tan when contacted.

He was released from police custody after a few hours.

With the highway concessionaire and the Selangor state government claiming right of way, the issue is still far from being settled.

One resident, Suraya Haris Ong, said authorities should also view the socio-economic impact on the township with low rentals and vacant shoplots since the barricade was put up in 2005.

Saturday May 10, 2008
Chronology of events pertaining to Bandar Mahkota Cheras toll-free access road issue


September 15, 2005: The RM16mil Bandar Mahkota Cheras road is opened by developer Narajaya Sdn Bhd with the consent of the Kajang Municipal Council. A few days later, Cheras-Kajang Highway concessionaire Grand Saga closes the road.

October 2005: Grand Saga business development and corporate affairs executive director Zainal Abidin Ali informs council that the closure is due to compensation issues with Narajaya and says the road would only be opened with a directive from the Malaysian Highway Authority (LLM).

February 2006: Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents begin signature campaign to protest road closure saying they are forced to use a longer route through Bandar Sungai Long. More than 10,000 signatures are collected. Peaceful protests are also staged over the months.

September 2006: Former Works Minister Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu tells Bandar Mahkota Cheras Open Access Road Committee members that road is illegal.

December 2006: Committee members led by Cheras MP Tan Kok Wai seek a meeting with LLM representatives but are told the matter would be referred again to Samy Vellu.

January 2007: Grand Saga workers are spotted doing earthworks near site with the intention of putting up toll booths.

May 2007: Samy Vellu insists in Parliament that toll has to be collected at the access road in order to put an end to the long-standing issue.

July 2007: An emergency motion on the matter brought up by Tan Kok Wai in Parliament is rejected.

Residents led by committee chairman Tan Boon Wah visit the Prime Minister&#039;s office in Putrajaya to present a memorandum.

October 2007: Developer Narajaya files a suit against Grand Saga and the Malaysian Highway Authority at the civil division of the High Court.

April 2008: Selangor state government says road is on state land but appoints surveyors to determine who has right of way. Residents go ahead and demolish the first barricade on April 21.

May 2008: Grand Saga re-erects barricade and residents demolish it again. Selangor Mentri Besar Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim says a meeting would be sought with the Federal Government to put an end to the issue.

May 21, 2008: Court hearing for lawsuit filed by Narajaya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Killer,</p>
<p>I think no one blame BN or PR for anything.. the problem actually lies with the Highway Company, I was thinking each residents should launch a law suit to the Highway Company involved. Loss of income is not an excuse for closing a road that leads to a township. btw </p>
<p>Rep: Grand Saga has no right to barricade access street<br />
By CHARLES FERNANDEZ and JADE CHAN</p>
<p>KAJANG: The Cheras-Kajang Expressway operator has no right to barricade the road into Bandar Mahkota Cheras because a survey has found that it is located on state land.</p>
<p>Selangor executive councillor Ronnie Liu said a Survey and Mapping Department report had shown that the land on which Grand Saga Sdn Bhd had earlier erected a barrier to stop residents from using a toll-free road was state land.</p>
<p>The report and a map have been forwarded to state legal officer Datuk Zauyah Lothy Khan.</p>
<p>“Even before the survey, the state government had ample proof that the road was on state land.</p>
<p>“And until today, the highway concessionaire has yet to show documents to stake its claims,” he said at a press conference at the site yesterday.</p>
<p>The residents of Bandar Mahkota Cheras have been engaged in a battle with Grand Saga since 2005 over the use of a road which allows them a shorter and toll-free route into their housing area.</p>
<p>Grand Saga had earlier built barricades across the road but residents had dismantled the barriers.</p>
<p>The battle turned ugly on Thursday night when police used tear gas and water cannons to disperse crowds of residents who were trying to dismantle the latest barricade.</p>
<p>Liu said Grand Saga should just let the matter rest if it could not dispute the state government’s claim over who controlled the land. It should also not stop the residents from using the toll-free access road.</p>
<p>Liu said he would discuss with the Public Works Department to see if another access road running parallel to the highway belonged to the state to avoid another land controversy.</p>
<p>Grand Saga has applied for an injunction against Bandar Mahkota Cheras Open Access Road Committee chairman Tan Boon Wah, Liu and the Kajang Municipal Council to stop them from entering the expressway area.</p>
<p>Tan confirmed that he was served with an ex-parte injunction on Friday night.</p>
<p>Segambut MP Lim Lip Eng, who claimed he was injured during Thursday night’s commotion, said he admitted himself into the emergency ward of Selayang Hospital on Friday afternoon as he was in pain.</p>
<p>Relating Thursday’s events, Lim said: “A plainclothes officer grabbed me from behind and some burning hot liquid was blasted into my face, which temporarily blinded me. I then felt punches and kicks all over,” he said.</p>
<p>He said his car was damaged – tyres punctured, wipers ripped off, surface scratched and a number plate broken.</p>
<p>Folks have the right to use access road without paying toll, says Khalid<br />
By WANI MUTHIAH and GEETHA KRISHNAN</p>
<p>SELANGOR Mentri Besar Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim said the state government will be holding a meeting with Cheras-Kajang Highway concessionaire Grand Saga Sdn Bhd and the Federal Government next week.</p>
<p>He said the meeting was to find a solution for the tussle between the concessionaire and Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents over the barricade erected by the former on the toll-free access road belonging to the Selangor government.</p>
<p>“We understand the problem as well as the plight of the people and will seek a quick solution,’’ said Khalid when met by Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents at the state secretariat building yesterday.</p>
<p>All ears: Liu (left) explaining the situation to Khalid at the SUK building in Shah Alam as Ean Yong (second from right) and Tan (right) look on.</p>
<p>He said the residents had the right to use the access road without having to pay toll but added that the problem could only be settled when all relevant parties had discussed the matter.</p>
<p>The residents arrived at the secretariat building yesterday at about 11am in a chartered bus and five cars to hand over a memorandum to Khalid. It was received by the his special duties assistant Mohd Yahya Sahri.</p>
<p>The crowd was also met by state executive councillors Ronnie Liu and Ean Yong Hean Wah.</p>
<p>Liu, who met reporters after speaking to the residents, said the concessionaire did not have the right to barricade the access road as it belonged to the state government.</p>
<p>He lambasted the police for taking sides and said that the police should maintain law and order instead of manhandling the residents on behalf of the concessionaire.</p>
<p>Under control: Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents watching the site in case Grand Saga blocks the road again.</p>
<p>“We have all the proof to show that the land belongs to the state government and we have informed the police about this but the police, which is under the control of the Federal Government, is not paying heed,’’ said Liu.</p>
<p>He added that he had spoken to the Selangor CPO Deputy Comm Datuk Khalid Abu Bakar over the phone but the latter had remained stubborn.</p>
<p>More than 100 policemen, including personnel from the Light Strike Force and the Federal Reserve Unit, were dispatched to the area on Thursday when the residents held a demonstration to protest against Grand Saga Sdn Bhd.</p>
<p>Police personnel fired water cannons several times to ward off the protestors who were riding motorcycles and speeding towards the police barricades.</p>
<p>Segambut MP Lim Lip Eng was allegedly assaulted when he pulled the plug of a generator before standing in front of a water cannon to prevent the police from aiming it at the crowd. He is presently recovering at the Selayang Hospital.</p>
<p>“The police must be neutral and not help Grand Saga Sdn Bhd put up the barricade. Since when did the police force go into construction?’’ asked Liu.</p>
<p>He said that he would be speaking to Khalid as well as state legal adviser Datin Paduka Zauyah Be T. Loth Khan to see what action could be taken against the concessionaire.</p>
<p>Liu said the residents also had the right to seek an injunction against the concessionaire as well as seek damages from it through legal recourse.</p>
<p>Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents had been maintaining a 24-hour vigil at the crossroads where the concrete barricade put up by Grand Saga was first dismantled on April 21.</p>
<p>But the tents and garden chairs which residents used while keeping an eye on the road were no longer there on Friday morning. Also missing were self-appointed traffic marshalls who helped to ensure the traffic situation was under control since the traffic lights were not synchronised.</p>
<p>Although small groups of residents were present at the site, the crowd was not as big as the 1,000-odd people who converged on Thursday night where four people including the Bandar Mahkota Cheras Open Access Road Committee chairman Tan Boon Wah were arrested.</p>
<p>To-date, Grand Saga has re-built the barricade twice and on both occasions, residents had broken down the barrier.</p>
<p>“They can keep building the barricade but we will keep destroying it,” said Tan when contacted.</p>
<p>He was released from police custody after a few hours.</p>
<p>With the highway concessionaire and the Selangor state government claiming right of way, the issue is still far from being settled.</p>
<p>One resident, Suraya Haris Ong, said authorities should also view the socio-economic impact on the township with low rentals and vacant shoplots since the barricade was put up in 2005.</p>
<p>Saturday May 10, 2008<br />
Chronology of events pertaining to Bandar Mahkota Cheras toll-free access road issue</p>
<p>September 15, 2005: The RM16mil Bandar Mahkota Cheras road is opened by developer Narajaya Sdn Bhd with the consent of the Kajang Municipal Council. A few days later, Cheras-Kajang Highway concessionaire Grand Saga closes the road.</p>
<p>October 2005: Grand Saga business development and corporate affairs executive director Zainal Abidin Ali informs council that the closure is due to compensation issues with Narajaya and says the road would only be opened with a directive from the Malaysian Highway Authority (LLM).</p>
<p>February 2006: Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents begin signature campaign to protest road closure saying they are forced to use a longer route through Bandar Sungai Long. More than 10,000 signatures are collected. Peaceful protests are also staged over the months.</p>
<p>September 2006: Former Works Minister Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu tells Bandar Mahkota Cheras Open Access Road Committee members that road is illegal.</p>
<p>December 2006: Committee members led by Cheras MP Tan Kok Wai seek a meeting with LLM representatives but are told the matter would be referred again to Samy Vellu.</p>
<p>January 2007: Grand Saga workers are spotted doing earthworks near site with the intention of putting up toll booths.</p>
<p>May 2007: Samy Vellu insists in Parliament that toll has to be collected at the access road in order to put an end to the long-standing issue.</p>
<p>July 2007: An emergency motion on the matter brought up by Tan Kok Wai in Parliament is rejected.</p>
<p>Residents led by committee chairman Tan Boon Wah visit the Prime Minister&#8217;s office in Putrajaya to present a memorandum.</p>
<p>October 2007: Developer Narajaya files a suit against Grand Saga and the Malaysian Highway Authority at the civil division of the High Court.</p>
<p>April 2008: Selangor state government says road is on state land but appoints surveyors to determine who has right of way. Residents go ahead and demolish the first barricade on April 21.</p>
<p>May 2008: Grand Saga re-erects barricade and residents demolish it again. Selangor Mentri Besar Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim says a meeting would be sought with the Federal Government to put an end to the issue.</p>
<p>May 21, 2008: Court hearing for lawsuit filed by Narajaya.</p>
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		<title>By: Killer</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 00:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally the sleeping Corporate MB has spoken out. But then again instead of meeting the residents and other parties interested, he avoided them by using his representative. More strangely he has given then another 7 days to resolve the problem. Are you joking Mr Corporate MB ? This case has been going on for years without solution and yet you expect the problem to be solved within 7 days as though you are some kind of Harry Porter....

Seems he would not do anything and leave to the parties concerned to solve it and will only step in after 7 days if the issue remain unsolved....

Yes, please continue to sleep and hope the problem will go away. I think perhaps it would be more effective if the people of BMC demand answer by going right to MB&#039;s office in Shah Alam and demand immediate solution rather than keep playing the cat-and-mouse game of demolishing the barrier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally the sleeping Corporate MB has spoken out. But then again instead of meeting the residents and other parties interested, he avoided them by using his representative. More strangely he has given then another 7 days to resolve the problem. Are you joking Mr Corporate MB ? This case has been going on for years without solution and yet you expect the problem to be solved within 7 days as though you are some kind of Harry Porter&#8230;.</p>
<p>Seems he would not do anything and leave to the parties concerned to solve it and will only step in after 7 days if the issue remain unsolved&#8230;.</p>
<p>Yes, please continue to sleep and hope the problem will go away. I think perhaps it would be more effective if the people of BMC demand answer by going right to MB&#8217;s office in Shah Alam and demand immediate solution rather than keep playing the cat-and-mouse game of demolishing the barrier.</p>
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		<title>By: lopez</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 15:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the years we always come across the word &quot;alternative road&quot; for users who chose not to pay for the convenience of the toll road as claimed.
It has kept thinking what is meant by &quot;alternative road&quot; technically.
i think it means literally a road which is an alternative for use other that the toll road which is better relatively in quality, purpose, fitness to intent, and many more intangible ones like quicker etc.

but i wonder does the alternative road mean only to provide users from point A to B regardless of any class of vehicles.

Which we all know it is deemed suited as far as accessibility of travel from Point A to B is concerned.

As we usually encounter the alternative is relatively narrower, always cut through housing estates or secondary road of the locale  within residential populated areas, schools, market place , the community itself .
And we all know these roads cannot take those traffic and heavier vehicles relative to trunk roads designs , 
So who is that bright engineer / contracts specifier that drafted this definition, may he find where is his dialing ling and speak out for the sake of all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the years we always come across the word &#8220;alternative road&#8221; for users who chose not to pay for the convenience of the toll road as claimed.<br />
It has kept thinking what is meant by &#8220;alternative road&#8221; technically.<br />
i think it means literally a road which is an alternative for use other that the toll road which is better relatively in quality, purpose, fitness to intent, and many more intangible ones like quicker etc.</p>
<p>but i wonder does the alternative road mean only to provide users from point A to B regardless of any class of vehicles.</p>
<p>Which we all know it is deemed suited as far as accessibility of travel from Point A to B is concerned.</p>
<p>As we usually encounter the alternative is relatively narrower, always cut through housing estates or secondary road of the locale  within residential populated areas, schools, market place , the community itself .<br />
And we all know these roads cannot take those traffic and heavier vehicles relative to trunk roads designs ,<br />
So who is that bright engineer / contracts specifier that drafted this definition, may he find where is his dialing ling and speak out for the sake of all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: wesuffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>wesuffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bunny,
 do you know what is AKTA PEMBANGUNAN FOR ?
THE TOWNSHIP WITHOUT MAIN ROAD, HOW CAN THE HOUSES IN BANDAR MAHKOTA CHERAS BEING APPROVED.
THE MAIN ROAD ALREADY APPEAR IN MASTERPLAN BEFORE THE HIGHWAY IS BUILD. EVEN THE TOLL BOOTH AT 11th MILES
IS UNSAFE TOO ,THE BOOTH IS VERY CLOSE TO SIMPANG MASUK TO BANDAR HUSSEIN ONN AND TO BANDAR SG LONG.
RESIDENT NEVER HAD AGRREEMENT WITH HIGHWAY OPERTOR.
LAW IS LAW.  GOVERMENT CANNOT TAKE ON THIER OWN HAND BECAUSE OF HIGHWAY OPERATOR COMPLAINING LOSE INCOME EVEN NO PROVE REPORT . CANNOT OMIT THE BUILDING BY LAW.
THE TOWNSHIP ALREADY EXCESS 60 000 RESIDENTS.
HOUSES GOT C&#039;F.
THE MAIN ROAD MUST PROVIDE !
AND CHERAS KAJANG HIGHWAY IS IN HOUSING ESTATE
BUT NOT CLOSE HIGHWAY, DIFFERENT WITH PLUS HIGHWAY !
 BUNNY, DONT SIMPLY GIVE OPINON TO BUILD TOOL BOOTH IN HOUSING ESTATE.
WORST COME TO WORST.  THE ROAD CANNOT CONNECTED TO HIGHWAY, BUT ATLEAST THE ROAD ABLE CONNECTED TO JALAN CHERAS LAMA !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bunny,<br />
 do you know what is AKTA PEMBANGUNAN FOR ?<br />
THE TOWNSHIP WITHOUT MAIN ROAD, HOW CAN THE HOUSES IN BANDAR MAHKOTA CHERAS BEING APPROVED.<br />
THE MAIN ROAD ALREADY APPEAR IN MASTERPLAN BEFORE THE HIGHWAY IS BUILD. EVEN THE TOLL BOOTH AT 11th MILES<br />
IS UNSAFE TOO ,THE BOOTH IS VERY CLOSE TO SIMPANG MASUK TO BANDAR HUSSEIN ONN AND TO BANDAR SG LONG.<br />
RESIDENT NEVER HAD AGRREEMENT WITH HIGHWAY OPERTOR.<br />
LAW IS LAW.  GOVERMENT CANNOT TAKE ON THIER OWN HAND BECAUSE OF HIGHWAY OPERATOR COMPLAINING LOSE INCOME EVEN NO PROVE REPORT . CANNOT OMIT THE BUILDING BY LAW.<br />
THE TOWNSHIP ALREADY EXCESS 60 000 RESIDENTS.<br />
HOUSES GOT C&#8217;F.<br />
THE MAIN ROAD MUST PROVIDE !<br />
AND CHERAS KAJANG HIGHWAY IS IN HOUSING ESTATE<br />
BUT NOT CLOSE HIGHWAY, DIFFERENT WITH PLUS HIGHWAY !<br />
 BUNNY, DONT SIMPLY GIVE OPINON TO BUILD TOOL BOOTH IN HOUSING ESTATE.<br />
WORST COME TO WORST.  THE ROAD CANNOT CONNECTED TO HIGHWAY, BUT ATLEAST THE ROAD ABLE CONNECTED TO JALAN CHERAS LAMA !</p>
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		<title>By: Killer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 13:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like I had predicted,the cops make a police report against RPK. Those who consider RPK as a hero, this is a very sobering reminder that he is nothing more than a modern poison pen letter writer who uses lies and half-truths to destroy his enemies.

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Altantuya murder trial: Accused cops lodge report against Raja Petra

2008/05/13

SHAH ALAM: Two former policemen, accused of the murder of Altantuya Shaariibuu, lodged a report at the court complex here against Malay-sia Today editor Raja Petra Raja Kamaruddin yesterday. Chief Inspector Azilah Hadri and Corporal Sirul Azhar Umar lodged the report at 5pm after proceedings ended yesterday.

Earlier, when hearing began, counsel Datuk Hazman Ahmad and Kamarul Hisham Kamaruddin, who are representing Azilah and Sirul respectively, informed the court that Raja Petra had in the Malaysia Today website mentioned the reason why he had posted bail on Friday.

Raja Petra was charged at the Petaling Jaya Sessions Court on Wednesday under the Sedition Act for his article on the website. 

He was granted bail of RM5,000 with one surety, but had initially insisted on not posting it. Instead, he wanted to remain in the Sungai Buloh prison until his trial in October.

On Friday, however, he changed his mind, alleging that he had received threats from Azilah and Sirul while in prison.

Raja Petra had said: &quot;When I arrived in Sungai Buloh, something happened that put the entire prison on full alert. Sirul and Azilah, who were in the same block as me, Block Damai, shouted at me to watch my back and that they will get me. I was whisked out of the block. 

&quot;It seemed they were angry that the Altantuya murder trial, which had disappeared from the radar screens, was back in the spotlight again.

&quot;Why should that upset them?&quot;

Yesterday, Hazman and Kamarul denied the allegations.

Hazman said: &quot;I have spoken to my client, who denied this. 

&quot;He said he did not know where Raja Petra was placed and did not meet him in prison.

&quot;This statement is prejudicial to my client as Raja Petra has nothing to support his allegations.&quot; 

Kamarul said Sirul, too, denied the allegations.

Judge Datuk Mohd Zaki Md Yasin said: &quot;True or false, let the matter be investigated. You can be assured that the court will not be affected by such incidents.&quot; 

Azilah and Sirul are charged with the murder of Altantuya in Bukit Raja between 10pm on Oct 19 and 11am the following day two years ago. 

Political analyst Abdul Ra-zak is charged with abetting them.

Proceedings later resumed with senior investigating officer ASP Tonny Lunggan taking the stand.

Under examination-in-chief by deputy public prosecutor Manoj Kurup, Tonny said he had on June 16 met Celcom officer Haizal Hambali to trace telecommunications transmitting stations.

&quot;We began our journey from Jalan Setia Jaya, Bukit Da-mansara, near Razak&#039;s house. 

&quot;Our trip ended at the crime scene in Puncak Alam.&quot; 

Hearing resumes today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like I had predicted,the cops make a police report against RPK. Those who consider RPK as a hero, this is a very sobering reminder that he is nothing more than a modern poison pen letter writer who uses lies and half-truths to destroy his enemies.</p>
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Altantuya murder trial: Accused cops lodge report against Raja Petra</p>
<p>2008/05/13</p>
<p>SHAH ALAM: Two former policemen, accused of the murder of Altantuya Shaariibuu, lodged a report at the court complex here against Malay-sia Today editor Raja Petra Raja Kamaruddin yesterday. Chief Inspector Azilah Hadri and Corporal Sirul Azhar Umar lodged the report at 5pm after proceedings ended yesterday.</p>
<p>Earlier, when hearing began, counsel Datuk Hazman Ahmad and Kamarul Hisham Kamaruddin, who are representing Azilah and Sirul respectively, informed the court that Raja Petra had in the Malaysia Today website mentioned the reason why he had posted bail on Friday.</p>
<p>Raja Petra was charged at the Petaling Jaya Sessions Court on Wednesday under the Sedition Act for his article on the website. </p>
<p>He was granted bail of RM5,000 with one surety, but had initially insisted on not posting it. Instead, he wanted to remain in the Sungai Buloh prison until his trial in October.</p>
<p>On Friday, however, he changed his mind, alleging that he had received threats from Azilah and Sirul while in prison.</p>
<p>Raja Petra had said: &#8220;When I arrived in Sungai Buloh, something happened that put the entire prison on full alert. Sirul and Azilah, who were in the same block as me, Block Damai, shouted at me to watch my back and that they will get me. I was whisked out of the block. </p>
<p>&#8220;It seemed they were angry that the Altantuya murder trial, which had disappeared from the radar screens, was back in the spotlight again.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why should that upset them?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yesterday, Hazman and Kamarul denied the allegations.</p>
<p>Hazman said: &#8220;I have spoken to my client, who denied this. </p>
<p>&#8220;He said he did not know where Raja Petra was placed and did not meet him in prison.</p>
<p>&#8220;This statement is prejudicial to my client as Raja Petra has nothing to support his allegations.&#8221; </p>
<p>Kamarul said Sirul, too, denied the allegations.</p>
<p>Judge Datuk Mohd Zaki Md Yasin said: &#8220;True or false, let the matter be investigated. You can be assured that the court will not be affected by such incidents.&#8221; </p>
<p>Azilah and Sirul are charged with the murder of Altantuya in Bukit Raja between 10pm on Oct 19 and 11am the following day two years ago. </p>
<p>Political analyst Abdul Ra-zak is charged with abetting them.</p>
<p>Proceedings later resumed with senior investigating officer ASP Tonny Lunggan taking the stand.</p>
<p>Under examination-in-chief by deputy public prosecutor Manoj Kurup, Tonny said he had on June 16 met Celcom officer Haizal Hambali to trace telecommunications transmitting stations.</p>
<p>&#8220;We began our journey from Jalan Setia Jaya, Bukit Da-mansara, near Razak&#8217;s house. </p>
<p>&#8220;Our trip ended at the crime scene in Puncak Alam.&#8221; </p>
<p>Hearing resumes today.</p>
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