Comments on: Grand Saga - the bully at Bandar Makhota Cheras http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/ for Malaysia Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:05:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: myint3 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/#comment-105934 myint3 Thu, 22 May 2008 16:51:02 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/#comment-105934 I don't know whether it is legal but has anyone thought of setting up a website, a watchdog of sort against excessive force/brutality by the police against our MP and rakyat? I'm sure this will put them in their place. They will think twice before they beat up an MP, like ktteokt said, the very people they beat will become their direct boss. It's not a matter of if, it is when. I see so many YouTube footage where the police blatantly use excessive force against MPs and the rakyat. Unjustifiable force. Post the police officer's face in the website along with his numbers where possible, attach the video footage. When the new government comes in, a disciplinary committee can be set up and go after these police who brutalized the MPs and rakyat. Kinda like those war crime tribunals. They cannot hide behind their badges and kick and punch people around like that without justifiable cause. If such a website exists, those rogue police will think twice before they beat up our MPs or rakyat. I don’t know whether it is legal but has anyone thought of setting up a website, a watchdog of sort against excessive force/brutality by the police against our MP and rakyat? I’m sure this will put them in their place. They will think twice before they beat up an MP, like ktteokt said, the very people they beat will become their direct boss. It’s not a matter of if, it is when.

I see so many YouTube footage where the police blatantly use excessive force against MPs and the rakyat. Unjustifiable force. Post the police officer’s face in the website along with his numbers where possible, attach the video footage. When the new government comes in, a disciplinary committee can be set up and go after these police who brutalized the MPs and rakyat. Kinda like those war crime tribunals. They cannot hide behind their badges and kick and punch people around like that without justifiable cause.

If such a website exists, those rogue police will think twice before they beat up our MPs or rakyat.

]]> By: ktteokt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/#comment-105665 ktteokt Wed, 21 May 2008 13:07:06 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/#comment-105665 The police is forgetting that the one they beat up now may one day be their direct boss! The police is forgetting that the one they beat up now may one day be their direct boss!

]]> By: bunny http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/#comment-104975 bunny Sun, 18 May 2008 16:10:45 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/#comment-104975 To mikecivic2003, The construction of the access road and the connection to Grand Saga was approved by the LLM subject to Narajaya paying the compensation to Grand Saga and some other conditions la. However Narajaya refused to pay the compensation and went ahead to build the road. I am 100% sure on this. I am not sure how Narajaya spent the RM5000/house sold la - maybe to build the road only and not sure where the balance (if any) gone to. To myint3, Read the comments above... Selangor State Govt has interest in Grand Saga indirectly since day 1... interesting rite? To mikecivic2003,

The construction of the access road and the connection to Grand Saga was approved by the LLM subject to Narajaya paying the compensation to Grand Saga and some other conditions la. However Narajaya refused to pay the compensation and went ahead to build the road. I am 100% sure on this.

I am not sure how Narajaya spent the RM5000/house sold la - maybe to build the road only and not sure where the balance (if any) gone to.

To myint3,

Read the comments above… Selangor State Govt has interest in Grand Saga indirectly since day 1… interesting rite?

]]> By: myint3 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/#comment-104920 myint3 Sun, 18 May 2008 08:47:54 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/#comment-104920 Who are the people behind Grand Saga anyway. Forgive me for my ignorance. Why is the FRU at their disposal? Why are they so great that the Police is emboldened by their (Grand Saga) authority to even beat up an MP! When the police beat up YB Lim, they are not just beating up an individual.They are symbolically beating up the thousands of rakyat who voted him as their MP. YB Lim represent these voters/rakyat, he is their voice. So police, you are beating the rakyat. Tsk tsk tsk. Police! police!. When we need you to catch criminals, you take your own sweet time but when it comes to beating up civilians, tax payers who pay your salary, wah sei, you do it with gusto and efficiency. Can someone enlighten us who has vested interest in Grand Saga. Who are the people behind Grand Saga anyway. Forgive me for my ignorance. Why is the FRU at their disposal? Why are they so great that the Police is emboldened by their (Grand Saga) authority to even beat up an MP! When the police beat up YB Lim, they are not just beating up an individual.They are symbolically beating up the thousands of rakyat who voted him as their MP. YB Lim represent these voters/rakyat, he is their voice. So police, you are beating the rakyat.

Tsk tsk tsk. Police! police!. When we need you to catch criminals, you take your own sweet time but when it comes to beating up civilians, tax payers who pay your salary, wah sei, you do it with gusto and efficiency.

Can someone enlighten us who has vested interest in Grand Saga.

]]> By: ktteokt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/#comment-104409 ktteokt Thu, 15 May 2008 23:28:34 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/#comment-104409 In the first place, who approved the access road to BMC? And why is the "jurisdiction" of Grand Saga higher than the authority which approved the access road to be built? In the first place, who approved the access road to BMC? And why is the “jurisdiction” of Grand Saga higher than the authority which approved the access road to be built?

]]> By: mikecivic2003 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/#comment-104148 mikecivic2003 Thu, 15 May 2008 02:00:40 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/#comment-104148 To Bunny, Hi.. i though Narajaya did pay compensation to GrandSaga on the access road? as each house sold they have to pay Rm 5000 for the access road. Now im really confuse. To Bunny,

Hi.. i though Narajaya did pay compensation to GrandSaga on the access road? as each house sold they have to pay Rm 5000 for the access road. Now im really confuse.

]]> By: lopez http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/#comment-104063 lopez Wed, 14 May 2008 14:58:03 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/#comment-104063 Public conveniences used to be the responsibility of the gomen, whose officers are empowered to protect the people interest, Some claimed we r a develped nation similar to DEVELOPED NATIONS AND COMMUNITIES BY INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS (relative) The same fools and idiots drawing each month salary and perks at the tax payer's expense , now take sides for a Commercial entity where they have entered into matrimony for mutual gain. It is begining to show there must be some very big mistake by these gaji buta entering into a bias contract and now cannot back off unless some one forego his pension. How else it is not helping to resolve such simple problem where big building s can be demolished overnight despite ,,,,.. it is getting smeely already...... Public conveniences used to be the responsibility of the gomen, whose officers are empowered to protect the people interest, Some claimed we r a develped nation similar to DEVELOPED NATIONS AND COMMUNITIES BY INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS (relative)
The same fools and idiots drawing each month salary and perks at the tax payer’s expense , now take sides for a Commercial entity where they have entered into matrimony for mutual gain.
It is begining to show there must be some very big mistake by these gaji buta entering into a bias contract and now cannot back off unless some one forego his pension.
How else it is not helping to resolve such simple problem where big building s can be demolished overnight despite ,,,,..

it is getting smeely already……

]]> By: darcwil http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/#comment-103975 darcwil Wed, 14 May 2008 07:28:04 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/#comment-103975 Wow. Reading again the manifesto set out by PKR posted by Killer above, they are very visonary indeed, yes. But a bit far fetched and positivist. I'm not saying it is not possible, but come on events in Selangor not really living up to much of it... Now what? Wow. Reading again the manifesto set out by PKR posted by Killer above, they are very visonary indeed, yes. But a bit far fetched and positivist. I’m not saying it is not possible, but come on events in Selangor not really living up to much of it…

Now what?

]]> By: bunny http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/#comment-103971 bunny Wed, 14 May 2008 07:17:00 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/09/grand-saga-the-bully-at-bandar-makhota-cheras/#comment-103971 Federal Govt money = our (tax payer) money i.e income tax, service tax.. State Govt money = our (tax payer) money i.e. cukai tanah, quit rent.. If Federal Govt compensate Grand Saga, that means WE are paying the toll UPFRONT If NO one compensate Grand Saga, shareholders of Grand Saga (i.e. KDE, investment arm of Selangor) will lost money immediate. Where is money from? From US.. and they will left with less money to maintain the welfare of the Selangor residents. If Narajaya compensate Grand Saga, Narajaya will JUST need to reduce the profit that have made from the house buyers of BMC. None of our money will be used. Federal Govt money = our (tax payer) money i.e income tax, service tax..
State Govt money = our (tax payer) money i.e. cukai tanah, quit rent..

If Federal Govt compensate Grand Saga, that means WE are paying the toll UPFRONT

If NO one compensate Grand Saga, shareholders of Grand Saga (i.e. KDE, investment arm of Selangor) will lost money immediate. Where is money from? From US.. and they will left with less money to maintain the welfare of the Selangor residents.

If Narajaya compensate Grand Saga, Narajaya will JUST need to reduce the profit that have made from the house buyers of BMC. None of our money will be used.

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