by Edward Kok
Yesterday’s ruckus at Bandar Mahkota Cheras is another sad example of the Federal Government’s oppression against its own people whom the Federal Government has pledged to serve and protect.
The FRU, fully armed and protected against hapless residents who merely want to have an access road to their residence.
Why is Grand Saga, the toll concessionaire so eager to re-enact the barricade to block the access to Mahkota Cheras? A few more jam-free days for these traffic weary folks pending the decision of the survey report by the Survey Department would not have hurt Grand Saga one bit. Do they not have a social responsibility to Malaysians, especially after they have their pockets full, contributed by fellow Malaysians?
A very pertinent question arises. How are they, a mere private corporation able to get FRU’s assistance and supervision for their re-enactment of the barricade?
Firstly, for FRU to intervene, Grand Saga must be exercising a legal right. They are not. The survey department has not determined who has the right of way in respect of the access road. Neither is there an order from the High Court authorizing them to do so. The FRU’s intervention amounts to nothing more than assistance and abetting an illegal act! In short, the Federal Government is assisting and abetting an illegal act!
Such deployment of the FRU is clearly an abuse of power on the part of the Federal Government. Who in the Federal Government issued such instructions to the FRU? And why?
Many questios linger.
To Grand Saga and the Federal Government, your bullying ways will not go unpunished. One day, we, the ordinary rakyat will have our day. That day will surely come.
#1 by yhsiew on Saturday, 10 May 2008 - 8:30 pm
The 5.57PM (10th May 2008) news from Malaysiakini (Chinese Edition) confirmed that the barricade was built on Selangor government’s land.
#2 by wesuffer on Saturday, 10 May 2008 - 8:46 pm
Large number of Police force and FRU asists private company grand saga to putting up the illegal barricade.(malaysia boleh)
Police force and FRU duties not only fights crimes, ensure safety to citizen but nowaday have to be security guard and work supervision for grand saga too.(malaysia boleh)
very hardworking those police force but nevermind la..
that nights grand saga is packed so many box rice and drinking water for THE SUPER POWER SECURITY GUARD
#3 by wesuffer on Saturday, 10 May 2008 - 9:09 pm
A township should provide a main access road because its one of Akta pembangunan from all majlis.
So that the houses built and able to apply for C’F
.The main road is built by developer according akta pembangunan
and the houses in bandar mahkota cheras also got the C’F
already.
now grand saga the one who break the building by law.
use their sdn bhd law to blocked township access.
Police and FRU abuse power and joined the illegal action.
malaysia is 50th years of kemerdekaan already.
Dont act like malaysia is not merdeka yet.
No one is above the law.
If BN still want to celebrate another 50th anniversary together, please wake up now !
#4 by wesuffer on Saturday, 10 May 2008 - 9:12 pm
POLICE FORCE AND FRU DURING DUTY HOURS. CAN THEY RECEIVED OFFERING MEAL FROM PRIVATE COMPANY ???
#5 by lyhmsia on Saturday, 10 May 2008 - 10:48 pm
[b]Regardless if its wrong to use FRU or not [/b]
[b]There is the right way and the wrong way to seek justice.[/b] Is it wrong for the MP to stop the company from re-enact the barricade ? I didn’t read the whole story; thus, I’ll assume the company build the barricade with permit. Even if the barricade is build without any permit, I strongly believe that DAP should use the lawful means to protect the citizens right. [b]We need to remember the rule of law.[/b] If there is injustice in any way we can use different means to seek justice. Is it right for YB Lim Lip Eng to damage welding machines needed by the concessionaire’s workers and chased them off? Should he do that? As a YB, you can voice your discontent to the correct authority or he can voice it in the parliment. Pakatan Rakyat have pretty impressive numbers of representative in parliment and it shouldn’t be difficult to voice the discontent right?
I believe in public protest but there needs to be a balance. If Lim Lip Eng can tear apart the barricade is it wrong for us to destroy the tol since PLUS over charge us?
That’s my view. Please do let me know if you disagree
Sincerely
James
#6 by badak on Saturday, 10 May 2008 - 10:58 pm
All this for a packet of chiken rice a teh o ice..What the @#@$% ..What happen to theRM50.000 GRAND SAGA PAID to someone in BN…to share ….ACA must look into this..ohhh forgot someone must made a police report first.
#7 by concerned_citizen on Saturday, 10 May 2008 - 11:30 pm
Hai, apa dah jadi dengan pemimpin Beruk Nasional ini? Perkara kecil diperbesarkan, perkara besar pula diperkecilkan?
Takde ke kerja lain yang lebih penting? Negara dah lah tak cukup beras, petrol dah nak naik dan ekonomi pula nak turun, apa yang pemimpin tertinggi kita ini nak buat?
Kalou tak tidor, dia ni suka nak buat kacau dan huru-harakan keadaan politik? Jagalah sikit no 2 itu, jangan pulak nak ikut jejak dia tu, hang ni ketua takkan nak ikut aje? Pandai-pandailah!
#8 by Killer on Saturday, 10 May 2008 - 11:52 pm
I agree that the Selangor MB must resolve this issue as this is not a Federal road or land but a state matter. He has the power and authority to act.
Do not waste your time or evade responsibility saying this is a Federal matter. YB Khalid Ibrahim, act NOW before this turns ugly. Perhaps, PR now can start to fulfill their GE promise of no toll.
limkamput : For once I support you in having ZERO toll within Klang Valley. Let’s pressure Selangor MB to make this a reality.
#9 by lovemalaysia on Sunday, 11 May 2008 - 1:25 am
Bdr Mahkota Cheras issue, what has the Residents did wrong? get violated by P Raja Di Malaysia. What had the residents of Bdr Mahkota Cheras did wrong? to avoid toll, because Grxxxx Sxgx (the iresponsible) force residents to use the long way and pay toll before reach their house, imagine u are the residents there, will you do the same like them? A private company can instruct the police and FRU to do things without a court order or legal papers? or it just to protect some cronies? Pakatan Rakyat MPs fight hard and get hurt, where is the BN reps(current opposition of Selangor)? Pak Lah, if during Tun Mahathir time, he will definitely do something to solve the issue quick, and not like now, what are you doing? i had seen Tun did very well in solving such issue whereby get irritating by Rakyat. I m not sure whether this is the tactics frm Pakatan rayat, since the tower issue in Melaka, Raja Petra case, but u defintiely get more Rakyat angry and its like a snow ball rolling, and this snow ball effect is going to destroy BN’s shelter, you had lose part of the house (BN), what shd u do? See the clip now, u will be shocked!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtSRluxGBIk
#10 by cheng on soo on Sunday, 11 May 2008 - 9:21 am
In other democratic countries, , police & FRU can be sued for taking such action, and can all be ‘buang kerja’ if found guilty.
Grand sxgx can also be sued & ask to pay compensation & fine if found guilty.
#11 by ALLAN THAM on Sunday, 11 May 2008 - 9:28 am
The issue here is quite simple in deed. The High Way operator was given right to build and operate the high way, in return of they are given rights to collect toll from the road users. The collection is for them to finance their borrowing they used to build the high way. The problem was in all cased was the term and condition on the agreement, the government some how was so nice have guaranteed them this and that to ensure the operator to make not only profit but huge profit. The argument was that if you do not guarantee them profit no one will undertake this kind of operation to build and operate.
NOW, to simple folk, this sound logical. Right? But when you think deeper, it was not that logical anyway.
Firstly, any business venture will be the risk element. When we talk about the forecast of the road users, it will always a forecast and projection. How then the government guarantee the operator for happening that is highly uncertain and subject to changes by factors that are beyond human intervention. This was done, because it was the tax payers money, the idiot who sign the agreement on behalf of the government has NOTHING to lose. He has done injustice to the people of the Malaysia.
Next, we may ask why they do it. I am not here to speculate or make suggestion that some and many that involve in the negotiations are corrupt. BUT , then when you say this high agreement is under OSA. They can not be disclose due to NATIONAL SECURITY. who will believe, a simple commercial agreement can THREATEN the Nation Security. Then the people form their won PERCEPTION. That some thing is NOT RIGHT, they are hiding some thing from us. So, it was crystal clear the Negotiator represent the people have done great injustice to the people.
Can any one imagine the ANGER of BMC residents? They are told you cannot used the toll free road, because you must paid to make good the PROFIT GUARANTEE granted to the operator. What faults, they have committed? When they protest they were further met with the aggression of the PEOPLE WHO SUPPOSE to provide protection to US. They can be more angry than that.
PR must take action to rectify this kind of injustice and please give back justice to the people.
#12 by lovemalaysia on Sunday, 11 May 2008 - 10:14 am
Today newspaper, IGP said have to take action on those illegal gathering by BMC residents. From the clips, i do not see any overreaction frm BMC residents, they dont burning cars, or throw stones to the FRU police, they just release the pressure being DITINDAS for abt 3 yrs, this is because Rakyat is being depressed for so long, they tend to react, with just standing by their basic rights, why police shd release the teargas? And Teo Kin Shin, BBC President, dont talk rubbish in front of media, take action and solve it! If you said that is under Federal Govt, pls help to inform Works Minister, and work minister, supposed to come out and say something! Obviously, Fed Govt wants to see Sgor govt fail and they will say u need to vote for a stronger BN, but, for wise voters, we shd vote BN out in next election, so that our Pakatan Rakyat reps can do things without obstacles. The BMC case showing a good example, why we need a helpful and strong Pakatan Rakyat. Granx Sxgx is also showing a very bad handling method and giving all those excuses, which makes the BMC residents more angry, where is their social responsibilities? or they just protect their interest of toll collection? I m not sure whether the accusation mentioned that the MD of G Sxga said : “you all go back to China”, if yes, if any of u hv evidence, pls lodge police report and tell Pakatan Rakyat abt this.
#13 by cheng on soo on Sunday, 11 May 2008 - 10:19 am
If net profit can be guaranteed, many companies will deliver their goods, or services even for a small net profit (10% or less), NO NEED big profit
#14 by lopez on Sunday, 11 May 2008 - 11:15 am
Why gang saga bully non customers but will they caress th customers balls?
#15 by wesuffer on Sunday, 11 May 2008 - 11:51 am
ask the IGP think before talk to media.
every words he said will destroy BN.
who are still remember two years ago, one of his son being charged involved issue temporary raya puasa licence for higher fee to people ??? how the case now?? no further action at all !
#16 by wesuffer on Sunday, 11 May 2008 - 11:54 am
POLICE IS INVOLVED IN ILLEGAL ACT. DESTROY STATE LAND !
AGAINTS BUILDING BY LAW !
HURT PARLIAMENTARIAN !
HE SHOULD GIVE FULL ACCEPTABLE REPORT OF THIS ! DONT IGNORED AND TALK RUBBISH
#17 by wesuffer on Sunday, 11 May 2008 - 11:56 am
PUBLIC IS NOT INTERESTED HEAR SUCH RUBBISH
#18 by Anak Malaysia on Sunday, 11 May 2008 - 12:06 pm
Bravo!! Pakatan Rakyat adalah Pembela Rakyat Malaysia.
Syabas, the excess road and land at Bandar Mahkota Cheras belongs to the state of Selangor. MP Lim is a brave MP who fights for the people rights in using a TOLL FREE excess road. Malaysians are angry and sad to know MP Lim was injured and beaten up by irresponsible hooligans. We salute MP Lim for his heroic brave actions to defend all races’ rights at Bandar Mahkota Cheras. We will continue to vote for MP Lim forever.
HIDUP DAP and PKR !!
Thanked to Selangor MB and all Excos for their excellence good services and meet their promises , free water, reduce assessments, free & reduce toll rates etc.
Rakyat Malaysia will continue to vote for Pakatan Rakyat to serve the people forever. HIDUP Pakatan Rakyat. We LOVE you guys in Pakatan Rakyat. BN is irrelevant in Malaysia selama lamanya.
Pakatan Rakyat is a truly Malaysian Party for all races and religions.
HIDUP LONG LIVE DAP !!
RAKYAT MALAYSIA LOVE DAP ROCKET FOREVER.
Terima kasih
Anak-anak Negeri-negeri Utara – Perak, Penang, Kedah & Selangor
Rakyat Malaysia
#19 by pjboy on Sunday, 11 May 2008 - 12:11 pm
Dear YAB LKS
Pls demand explanation on the action of tyranny by the FRU &/or PDRM in the BMC incident & demand them to inform who instructed them to do so. They couldn’t have acted on initiative – & since when do they act on own initiative?
Make a police report on the incident & we shall see how fast will the PDRM act on it, as they have been superfast to act on RPK when a police report was made against RPK.
The recent actions of water-cannons & tear-gas put us in the same level as Tibet, Nepal, Myanmar…it is confirmed that we live in a police-state. Those were acts of uncivilised humans, maybe not even homo-sapiens.
Post the Mkini video report on the incident to international news & tell the world we are governed by cavemen.
#20 by negarawan on Sunday, 11 May 2008 - 12:25 pm
Those who are affected should plan to sue the government and police collectively. No point complaining or demonstrating.
#21 by limkamput on Sunday, 11 May 2008 - 2:31 pm
testing 123
#22 by Voter on Sunday, 11 May 2008 - 3:36 pm
Dear James,
Probably you should really view the video or do some reading before you express you view. However, this is a free country (at least we would like to believe so), you are entitled to express your view eventhough to tell the readers that your view is based on presumption cox you have not a clue about what really happened is unwise.
Did Lim damage the wire? Your entire opinion was based on your “presumption” that Lim destroyed the wire thus actually i should not have taken my time to tell you that i totally disagree with your view since your presumption is unfounded, however, since i am a responsible voter and further more you invited disagreement opinion, i would like to share my 2 cents of opinion and seriously please take some time to do some reading before you offer your opinion otherwise it would appear that you dont know what you are talking about!
From the video we could see that Lim was asking the contractor to produce valid document to justify his action of digging the soil in the public area, the contractor ignored him, so since the police seemed to be ascorded the contractor, Lim as MP approached the Police and asked the police who was this contractor, the police even before Lim could show him who he was referring to denied any knowledge, so Lim went over to the contractor to tell him to leave since he had no valid documents and also doing something clearly unlawful (can i simple hire a contractor you dig hole in your taman?) however the contractor ignored him again. So Lim, did what was right at the time, as a responsble MP, who protected the public property, pulled the plug. HE WAS PULLING THE PLUG, not damaging (now you must have regretted, should have read more stuff huh!) After pulling the plug, a man approached Lima and sprayed pepper spray on Lim and started whacking him while he was isolated from the residents and surrounded by Police and a bunch of plain cloth hooligan. Which part did Lim do wrong? Pulling the plug? As a responsible MP should not he do that?
James, it’s easy to voice your opinion and act gentlemen, but think, think, think for a moment for the resident in Mahkota cheras, were they violent? did you riot? they merely “present” there. Was there a need for the FRU to engage force?
I would not advice you to destroy the toll and i believe you have contributed a single cent to the toll since you are not a resident there, and Grand Saga has not over charged you, and even if you have paid the toll, it does not give you the right to destroy the toll, and let me just imitate you for once, even if they have overcharged the resident, did you see the residents destroying the toll? they merely were “present” at the scene. Are you not clear now, this people, inclduing Lim were brutalling assalted not because of anything but merely becuase they were present there.
Seriously James you should gather more facts, read more and think for a while before you offer your view. not only that it would be good for yourself, you wont offend those who are suffering. like rubbing salt into their wound.
#23 by Voter on Sunday, 11 May 2008 - 4:17 pm
James,
to put money in your pocket, tell you, about the rule of law, as citizen, we have all the rights, unless and untill it is taken away from you, like you shall have the right to express your opinion no matter how silly it seems to be and others could not ask you to shut up though you appear to be ignorant.
So, the contractor has no right to prevent the residents by placing barricads there since residents of Cheras Mahkota has the right of way, and to preserve the status quo is the right thing to do since the private contracor has no express authority to take away the right of the residents. that is the rule of law.
And about your advice that Lim together with the PR MPs should voice out in the parliament, apparently you dont know how is a country run. When a situation like this arises, we dont debate we dont enact law, we solve issue/problem.
It’s ideal and even noble for you to have advice the MP to bring this to the parliament (though the obvious result of this action would be meanwhile it’s ok to let the people suffer while we debate in the parliament about Grad Saga’s right since the BN cronies still outnumber PR MP!), i think Lim and the Pakatan MP would love to do this too if they could (at least to Lim, wont get whacked), like any of the MCA ex MP, “let us bring this to the cabinet, let us fight for you” you ever see them solving the problem by bringing the issues to the cabint? but please dont get me wrong, i am not saying PR MP would not be able to help us in the parliament, I am saying, please get the issue right, the issue is RESOLVING THE PROBLEM at Hand. To resolve the issue, time must be given to the MP (or state government together with the Fed govern), so meanwhile, comparing the losses of Grand Saga they mght suffer (if any) if the road is axcessible, to the hardship of the residents, any sane mind would agree with me, that’s to preserve status quo ie not to block the road.
Further, since Grand Saga states that they have the right to block the way, then he who alleges must prove it, that is the rule of law. Did they prove it? NO. In the event Grand Saga could prove that they have the right to block the way, what they suffer is not something that could not be compensated by moneytary compensation. that is the rule of law!
Do some reading before you hurt other’s feeling again, ok? in ordinary circumstances i would not waste my time explaining to you, but this time, you are offending thousands of people who has been depressed for so long and an MP who was assaulted merely because he was asking for some confirmation about the identity of the contractor who was destroying property. Put yourself in others shoe Jame, please! and dont act like a hyporate again cox no one know you, we are at forum. it wont even bring you any political milege if you are from BN!
#24 by Voter on Sunday, 11 May 2008 - 4:27 pm
Personally i would like to salute to Tan Boon Wah, Lim is an MP he has been entrusted with rakyat’s trust, he must act, but Tan Boon Wah! Did anyone see how he protected Lim? Seriously, dont rub salt into the wound of the residents expecially Tan and Lim!
If we cant physically support them (because we are not affecte, I am not a resident there, i am just a bystander who cant stand the tyrant), the least we could do is not to pretent like we are riding on a moral high horse and judge them talking about rule of law???? we werent even there, what we read from paper might not be true, but we can view the video. be a responsible person, read, observe, find out the truth and then only voice opinion.
James, i hope the next time if you are brutally oppressed some one would come to your rescue and not spit on you.
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn’t a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out …..
– Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)
#25 by lopez on Sunday, 11 May 2008 - 4:50 pm
This reminds me of robin hood stories, but this series tells us that the sheriiff is very happy man
On the other hand I always wonder how come toll gates always coincidentally found in the heavy populated areas while the LRT facilities are not. Strange though but the designers are supposed to be to be very smart ,
#26 by ktteokt on Monday, 12 May 2008 - 9:02 am
A biased police force will soon perish with a change of the government!
#27 by localgrad on Monday, 12 May 2008 - 12:06 pm
Hi, YB Lim Lit Eng is my MP (segambut)
I am proud of him but sad as well cause his was actually BEATEN by POLICE.
wau! great police! and IGB even has gut to warn that he will use more force to SURPRESS armless citizen. (are u a junta head?)
BRAVO! BN, gang saga and police. do more of this and we will make sure we rakyat will vote u out of the office.
Good bless Lim, DAP and PR.
#28 by love malaysia on Monday, 12 May 2008 - 6:54 pm
All this problem is created by the former state govt. How can such a big township can be approved without access road.It is ridiculous to ask us to travel additional distance and caught in the horrible jam every morning and still had to pay TOLL! I think BMC is the only township in malaysia where you caught in a jam infront of your TAMAN! What frustration, dissapointment and helpless feeling we resident of BMC. Yet they say they are the people govt.
#29 by lakilompat on Tuesday, 13 May 2008 - 8:20 am
Federal Govt + Private UMNO firm = Corruptions
They don’t bother abt. the people, as these people rejected them in the past election.
They (Federal goons + Private UMNO firm) will want to continue to suck the opposition people like mosquitoes.
#30 by darcwil on Tuesday, 13 May 2008 - 10:48 am
No government in the world is perfect, true indeed. In fact it looks that people in selangor are already disappointed with the selangor menteri besar over how he handles the grand saga affair in bandar mahlota cheras. Is this how the selangor people want to be treated when they chose the new people up there in selangor? Oh help us god!
#31 by Toyol on Tuesday, 13 May 2008 - 11:54 am
This will continue unless BN is no longer in power. This must be the sole aim of all Malaysians irrespective of race. If you want to take the next step to a progressive society, you have to vote BN out permanently. BN is the stumbling block to a progressive Malaysia.
#32 by mikecivic2003 on Tuesday, 13 May 2008 - 3:13 pm
The situation in Bandar Mahkota Cheras
On the 7th of May 2008 the FRU and Polis fired tear gas and water cannon towards the residents of Bandar Mahkota Cheras because they protest the closure of BMC access road towards lebuhraya Cheras- Kajang that is owned by GrandSaga.
The question now is:
1) Why is water cannon and tear gas is fired towards residents of BMC that is mostly consisting of women and children protesting their access rights to their town?
a) The protest take place on the affected road because GrandSaga was closing it with barricade. It does not affect the traffic and affect any business in the area.
b) Narajaya the developer is said to have paid Grandsaga compensation for building the access road to Bandar Mahkota Cheras.
c) The question arise can a township be build without a access road leading to it? Who approve the development? How come BMC is build with the access road being barricaded.?
d) The next question is should violent force be used against the residents? They are protecting their rights to use the road and tear gas and water canon is used at them, where is the democracy? Where is the justice? When the street demos in Penang occur in March 2008 they are obstructing traffic to komtar and also affect business in the area as they have to close their shops because of the demo, how come water canon and tear gas is not used? What makes it so special to use violence in BMC?
e) The current road that BMC residents used is shared with Sungai Long residents which is infact a small access road and always causes massive traffic jam in the area and causes the residents in BMC to use a big circle to reach the highway. Every morning traffic police is needed to control the traffic and this is absolutely not needed if the access road is open. Taxpayers money can be save and the traffic police can be directed to more critical area that require their service. A person can be caught in the jam for half and hour to 1 hour depends on the peak hours especially during the morning rush hour. One heading to bangsar have to start the jam at 7am and reach bangsar at 9am. By using the access road one can reach bangsar easily at 8:15am.
f) The bad traffic jam in these two area have affected the work performance of the residents in both Mahkota Cheras and sungai long, there are a lot of professionals such as doctors, lawyers, business man staying in the area that is affected. This is totally against a progressive society if precious hour is wasted in traffic jam that can be avoided. The long term affect also causes loses in companies that these people work in.
g) If there is to be an accident or disaster both township will be totally cut of from the outside world. Who is going to pay the compensation to the residents? Who is responsible?
What are the reasons for the closure of the Bandar Mahkota Access road?
1) Is it because GrandSaga will lose money if the road is open? How?
a) Residents along the highway of cheras- kajang such as Bandar Tun hussien Onn can also skip the RM 0.90 Tol by using the road leading from Batu 11, and residents from Batu 9 can also skip the RM 1 Tol by using the road beside the FRU building opposite the police training academy. Does these constitute to a road closure also?
b) The purpose of a Tol is to reimburse the money used to build the highway, and of course also to earn back a certain amount by the Highway Company. Highway is build for the convenience of the people of Malaysia and those staying around it to have access to the city.
c) One pays a TOL when he uses the stretch of road that was build under the highway company. If one is not using that stretch of road do they have to pay TOL? In actual Grand Saga still gets TOL money when the residents heads towards Kajang and Kuala Lumpur from the BMC access road.
d) If the reason is because the traffic light is not configured then why is it taken few years and nothing is being done? How long will the traffic lights need to be configure and signage to be put up? After so many years still the road is block.
#33 by Killer on Tuesday, 13 May 2008 - 6:23 pm
mikecivic2003 & others,
Something to chew on…read below.
So now what ? Ignore the court order, law and common sense and take the law into to your own hand and demolish the barrier again ?
Our country is a democracy and though it is imperfect, the citizens still has the recourse to legal process to address their griviences.
The last time I checked, the Bandar Mahkota Cheras folks were not been given any immunity under the law. So I guess the law (the written one and not the law of jungle) still is in force.
I would love to see the DAP rep concerned to sue the police for the alleged assault but I guess this will be conveniently forgotten. This is because there was no assault took place in the first place.
So now that the case has been thrown out will the Corporate MB will step in and resolve the issue or still sit in his office at Shah Alam and expect the problem to go away ?
This is the time for the MB to walk his talk and solve the problem so the residents of Selangor are watching him with great expectation.
BTW blaming the BN/UMNO will not make the problem disappear and the BMC residents will accept the solution and go home happily.
And I wonder why this issue exploded when the barrier was in place since 2006….??
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Grand Saga can rebuild barrier
By BERNAMA
2008/05/13
KUALA LUMPUR: The High Court has refused to grant an injunction to stop Grand Saga from rebuilding a barrier at a Cheras-Kajang Highway intersection. Bandar Mahkota Cheras Road Opening Action Committee chairman Tan Boon Wah filed the application ex parte on Friday.
Judge Datuk Muhamad Ideres Muhamad Rapee struck out the application in chambers here yesterday.
Member of Parliament for Serdang Teo Nie Ching, who acted as Tan’s lawyer, said he would seek instructions from his client.
On April 21, the committee demolished the barrier to enable the residents access to the highway at the Bandar Tun Hussein Onn intersection without paying the toll. — Bernama
#34 by ric23_my on Tuesday, 13 May 2008 - 6:52 pm
DAP is stupid enough to handle this issue in such a way …
#35 by Killer on Tuesday, 13 May 2008 - 9:36 pm
Just like I had predicted,the cops make a police report against RPK. Those who consider RPK as a hero, this is a very sobering reminder that he is nothing more than a modern poison pen letter writer who uses lies and half-truths to destroy his enemies.
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Altantuya murder trial: Accused cops lodge report against Raja Petra
2008/05/13
SHAH ALAM: Two former policemen, accused of the murder of Altantuya Shaariibuu, lodged a report at the court complex here against Malay-sia Today editor Raja Petra Raja Kamaruddin yesterday. Chief Inspector Azilah Hadri and Corporal Sirul Azhar Umar lodged the report at 5pm after proceedings ended yesterday.
Earlier, when hearing began, counsel Datuk Hazman Ahmad and Kamarul Hisham Kamaruddin, who are representing Azilah and Sirul respectively, informed the court that Raja Petra had in the Malaysia Today website mentioned the reason why he had posted bail on Friday.
Raja Petra was charged at the Petaling Jaya Sessions Court on Wednesday under the Sedition Act for his article on the website.
He was granted bail of RM5,000 with one surety, but had initially insisted on not posting it. Instead, he wanted to remain in the Sungai Buloh prison until his trial in October.
On Friday, however, he changed his mind, alleging that he had received threats from Azilah and Sirul while in prison.
Raja Petra had said: “When I arrived in Sungai Buloh, something happened that put the entire prison on full alert. Sirul and Azilah, who were in the same block as me, Block Damai, shouted at me to watch my back and that they will get me. I was whisked out of the block.
“It seemed they were angry that the Altantuya murder trial, which had disappeared from the radar screens, was back in the spotlight again.
“Why should that upset them?”
Yesterday, Hazman and Kamarul denied the allegations.
Hazman said: “I have spoken to my client, who denied this.
“He said he did not know where Raja Petra was placed and did not meet him in prison.
“This statement is prejudicial to my client as Raja Petra has nothing to support his allegations.”
Kamarul said Sirul, too, denied the allegations.
Judge Datuk Mohd Zaki Md Yasin said: “True or false, let the matter be investigated. You can be assured that the court will not be affected by such incidents.”
Azilah and Sirul are charged with the murder of Altantuya in Bukit Raja between 10pm on Oct 19 and 11am the following day two years ago.
Political analyst Abdul Ra-zak is charged with abetting them.
Proceedings later resumed with senior investigating officer ASP Tonny Lunggan taking the stand.
Under examination-in-chief by deputy public prosecutor Manoj Kurup, Tonny said he had on June 16 met Celcom officer Haizal Hambali to trace telecommunications transmitting stations.
“We began our journey from Jalan Setia Jaya, Bukit Da-mansara, near Razak’s house.
“Our trip ended at the crime scene in Puncak Alam.”
Hearing resumes today.
#36 by wesuffer on Tuesday, 13 May 2008 - 10:01 pm
bunny,
do you know what is AKTA PEMBANGUNAN FOR ?
THE TOWNSHIP WITHOUT MAIN ROAD, HOW CAN THE HOUSES IN BANDAR MAHKOTA CHERAS BEING APPROVED.
THE MAIN ROAD ALREADY APPEAR IN MASTERPLAN BEFORE THE HIGHWAY IS BUILD. EVEN THE TOLL BOOTH AT 11th MILES
IS UNSAFE TOO ,THE BOOTH IS VERY CLOSE TO SIMPANG MASUK TO BANDAR HUSSEIN ONN AND TO BANDAR SG LONG.
RESIDENT NEVER HAD AGRREEMENT WITH HIGHWAY OPERTOR.
LAW IS LAW. GOVERMENT CANNOT TAKE ON THIER OWN HAND BECAUSE OF HIGHWAY OPERATOR COMPLAINING LOSE INCOME EVEN NO PROVE REPORT . CANNOT OMIT THE BUILDING BY LAW.
THE TOWNSHIP ALREADY EXCESS 60 000 RESIDENTS.
HOUSES GOT C’F.
THE MAIN ROAD MUST PROVIDE !
AND CHERAS KAJANG HIGHWAY IS IN HOUSING ESTATE
BUT NOT CLOSE HIGHWAY, DIFFERENT WITH PLUS HIGHWAY !
BUNNY, DONT SIMPLY GIVE OPINON TO BUILD TOOL BOOTH IN HOUSING ESTATE.
WORST COME TO WORST. THE ROAD CANNOT CONNECTED TO HIGHWAY, BUT ATLEAST THE ROAD ABLE CONNECTED TO JALAN CHERAS LAMA !
#37 by lopez on Tuesday, 13 May 2008 - 11:20 pm
Over the years we always come across the word “alternative road” for users who chose not to pay for the convenience of the toll road as claimed.
It has kept thinking what is meant by “alternative road” technically.
i think it means literally a road which is an alternative for use other that the toll road which is better relatively in quality, purpose, fitness to intent, and many more intangible ones like quicker etc.
but i wonder does the alternative road mean only to provide users from point A to B regardless of any class of vehicles.
Which we all know it is deemed suited as far as accessibility of travel from Point A to B is concerned.
As we usually encounter the alternative is relatively narrower, always cut through housing estates or secondary road of the locale within residential populated areas, schools, market place , the community itself .
And we all know these roads cannot take those traffic and heavier vehicles relative to trunk roads designs ,
So who is that bright engineer / contracts specifier that drafted this definition, may he find where is his dialing ling and speak out for the sake of all of us.
#38 by Killer on Wednesday, 14 May 2008 - 8:37 am
Finally the sleeping Corporate MB has spoken out. But then again instead of meeting the residents and other parties interested, he avoided them by using his representative. More strangely he has given then another 7 days to resolve the problem. Are you joking Mr Corporate MB ? This case has been going on for years without solution and yet you expect the problem to be solved within 7 days as though you are some kind of Harry Porter….
Seems he would not do anything and leave to the parties concerned to solve it and will only step in after 7 days if the issue remain unsolved….
Yes, please continue to sleep and hope the problem will go away. I think perhaps it would be more effective if the people of BMC demand answer by going right to MB’s office in Shah Alam and demand immediate solution rather than keep playing the cat-and-mouse game of demolishing the barrier.
#39 by mikecivic2003 on Wednesday, 14 May 2008 - 9:34 am
Dear Killer,
I think no one blame BN or PR for anything.. the problem actually lies with the Highway Company, I was thinking each residents should launch a law suit to the Highway Company involved. Loss of income is not an excuse for closing a road that leads to a township. btw
Rep: Grand Saga has no right to barricade access street
By CHARLES FERNANDEZ and JADE CHAN
KAJANG: The Cheras-Kajang Expressway operator has no right to barricade the road into Bandar Mahkota Cheras because a survey has found that it is located on state land.
Selangor executive councillor Ronnie Liu said a Survey and Mapping Department report had shown that the land on which Grand Saga Sdn Bhd had earlier erected a barrier to stop residents from using a toll-free road was state land.
The report and a map have been forwarded to state legal officer Datuk Zauyah Lothy Khan.
“Even before the survey, the state government had ample proof that the road was on state land.
“And until today, the highway concessionaire has yet to show documents to stake its claims,” he said at a press conference at the site yesterday.
The residents of Bandar Mahkota Cheras have been engaged in a battle with Grand Saga since 2005 over the use of a road which allows them a shorter and toll-free route into their housing area.
Grand Saga had earlier built barricades across the road but residents had dismantled the barriers.
The battle turned ugly on Thursday night when police used tear gas and water cannons to disperse crowds of residents who were trying to dismantle the latest barricade.
Liu said Grand Saga should just let the matter rest if it could not dispute the state government’s claim over who controlled the land. It should also not stop the residents from using the toll-free access road.
Liu said he would discuss with the Public Works Department to see if another access road running parallel to the highway belonged to the state to avoid another land controversy.
Grand Saga has applied for an injunction against Bandar Mahkota Cheras Open Access Road Committee chairman Tan Boon Wah, Liu and the Kajang Municipal Council to stop them from entering the expressway area.
Tan confirmed that he was served with an ex-parte injunction on Friday night.
Segambut MP Lim Lip Eng, who claimed he was injured during Thursday night’s commotion, said he admitted himself into the emergency ward of Selayang Hospital on Friday afternoon as he was in pain.
Relating Thursday’s events, Lim said: “A plainclothes officer grabbed me from behind and some burning hot liquid was blasted into my face, which temporarily blinded me. I then felt punches and kicks all over,” he said.
He said his car was damaged – tyres punctured, wipers ripped off, surface scratched and a number plate broken.
Folks have the right to use access road without paying toll, says Khalid
By WANI MUTHIAH and GEETHA KRISHNAN
SELANGOR Mentri Besar Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim said the state government will be holding a meeting with Cheras-Kajang Highway concessionaire Grand Saga Sdn Bhd and the Federal Government next week.
He said the meeting was to find a solution for the tussle between the concessionaire and Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents over the barricade erected by the former on the toll-free access road belonging to the Selangor government.
“We understand the problem as well as the plight of the people and will seek a quick solution,’’ said Khalid when met by Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents at the state secretariat building yesterday.
All ears: Liu (left) explaining the situation to Khalid at the SUK building in Shah Alam as Ean Yong (second from right) and Tan (right) look on.
He said the residents had the right to use the access road without having to pay toll but added that the problem could only be settled when all relevant parties had discussed the matter.
The residents arrived at the secretariat building yesterday at about 11am in a chartered bus and five cars to hand over a memorandum to Khalid. It was received by the his special duties assistant Mohd Yahya Sahri.
The crowd was also met by state executive councillors Ronnie Liu and Ean Yong Hean Wah.
Liu, who met reporters after speaking to the residents, said the concessionaire did not have the right to barricade the access road as it belonged to the state government.
He lambasted the police for taking sides and said that the police should maintain law and order instead of manhandling the residents on behalf of the concessionaire.
Under control: Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents watching the site in case Grand Saga blocks the road again.
“We have all the proof to show that the land belongs to the state government and we have informed the police about this but the police, which is under the control of the Federal Government, is not paying heed,’’ said Liu.
He added that he had spoken to the Selangor CPO Deputy Comm Datuk Khalid Abu Bakar over the phone but the latter had remained stubborn.
More than 100 policemen, including personnel from the Light Strike Force and the Federal Reserve Unit, were dispatched to the area on Thursday when the residents held a demonstration to protest against Grand Saga Sdn Bhd.
Police personnel fired water cannons several times to ward off the protestors who were riding motorcycles and speeding towards the police barricades.
Segambut MP Lim Lip Eng was allegedly assaulted when he pulled the plug of a generator before standing in front of a water cannon to prevent the police from aiming it at the crowd. He is presently recovering at the Selayang Hospital.
“The police must be neutral and not help Grand Saga Sdn Bhd put up the barricade. Since when did the police force go into construction?’’ asked Liu.
He said that he would be speaking to Khalid as well as state legal adviser Datin Paduka Zauyah Be T. Loth Khan to see what action could be taken against the concessionaire.
Liu said the residents also had the right to seek an injunction against the concessionaire as well as seek damages from it through legal recourse.
Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents had been maintaining a 24-hour vigil at the crossroads where the concrete barricade put up by Grand Saga was first dismantled on April 21.
But the tents and garden chairs which residents used while keeping an eye on the road were no longer there on Friday morning. Also missing were self-appointed traffic marshalls who helped to ensure the traffic situation was under control since the traffic lights were not synchronised.
Although small groups of residents were present at the site, the crowd was not as big as the 1,000-odd people who converged on Thursday night where four people including the Bandar Mahkota Cheras Open Access Road Committee chairman Tan Boon Wah were arrested.
To-date, Grand Saga has re-built the barricade twice and on both occasions, residents had broken down the barrier.
“They can keep building the barricade but we will keep destroying it,” said Tan when contacted.
He was released from police custody after a few hours.
With the highway concessionaire and the Selangor state government claiming right of way, the issue is still far from being settled.
One resident, Suraya Haris Ong, said authorities should also view the socio-economic impact on the township with low rentals and vacant shoplots since the barricade was put up in 2005.
Saturday May 10, 2008
Chronology of events pertaining to Bandar Mahkota Cheras toll-free access road issue
September 15, 2005: The RM16mil Bandar Mahkota Cheras road is opened by developer Narajaya Sdn Bhd with the consent of the Kajang Municipal Council. A few days later, Cheras-Kajang Highway concessionaire Grand Saga closes the road.
October 2005: Grand Saga business development and corporate affairs executive director Zainal Abidin Ali informs council that the closure is due to compensation issues with Narajaya and says the road would only be opened with a directive from the Malaysian Highway Authority (LLM).
February 2006: Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents begin signature campaign to protest road closure saying they are forced to use a longer route through Bandar Sungai Long. More than 10,000 signatures are collected. Peaceful protests are also staged over the months.
September 2006: Former Works Minister Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu tells Bandar Mahkota Cheras Open Access Road Committee members that road is illegal.
December 2006: Committee members led by Cheras MP Tan Kok Wai seek a meeting with LLM representatives but are told the matter would be referred again to Samy Vellu.
January 2007: Grand Saga workers are spotted doing earthworks near site with the intention of putting up toll booths.
May 2007: Samy Vellu insists in Parliament that toll has to be collected at the access road in order to put an end to the long-standing issue.
July 2007: An emergency motion on the matter brought up by Tan Kok Wai in Parliament is rejected.
Residents led by committee chairman Tan Boon Wah visit the Prime Minister’s office in Putrajaya to present a memorandum.
October 2007: Developer Narajaya files a suit against Grand Saga and the Malaysian Highway Authority at the civil division of the High Court.
April 2008: Selangor state government says road is on state land but appoints surveyors to determine who has right of way. Residents go ahead and demolish the first barricade on April 21.
May 2008: Grand Saga re-erects barricade and residents demolish it again. Selangor Mentri Besar Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim says a meeting would be sought with the Federal Government to put an end to the issue.
May 21, 2008: Court hearing for lawsuit filed by Narajaya.
#40 by Killer on Wednesday, 14 May 2008 - 10:53 am
This is for mikecivic2003…taken from KTemoc’s blog
Khalid Ibrahim more concerned with Toll Company’s revenue than Cheras residents’ rights
Malaysiakini reported the case of a DAP MP for Segambut Lim Lip Eng as a ‘street style’ MP
Lim became a household name when it was reported that he stood in front of a water cannon truck to prevent it from advancing and spraying the residents. He was then walloped by several plainclothes police officers until he had to be hospitalised.
Contrast this with Khalid Ibrahim who …
… now I quote Tony Pua who wrote in his blog (extracts):
… Khalid Ibrahim has acknowledged, as per the Star report yesterday that “the residents had the right to use the access road without having to pay toll”, it is disappointing that he had not taken a stronger stand on the issue, and in fact had not dealt with it much earlier when the FRU was first deployed, or even before that.
This has resulted in the situation clearly getting out of control, with a fracas between the residents and the FRU units in the wee hours of the morning 2 days ago … and a Member of Parliament lying in the hospital at this point of time, having been assaulted by the police.
It is critical that the new state government demonstrate political will and determination to stand for what is right and just, without fear or favour, instead of wavering in uncertainty or adopting a “we will look into it” or “we will have to discuss further” culture which is reminiscent of the previous Barisan Nasional government. It is of great concern that Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim had qualified his statement on the “right of use” by saying that the state government must also take into consideration that the toll is the source of revenue for the company.
With the state ownership of the land no longer in dispute, the local government, in this case the Kajang Municipal Council (MPKj), must take all necessary actions to prevent illegal structures from being constructed on state land.
If an enforcement officer does not hesitate to compound a car parked temporarily but illegally on a state road, why should MPKj decline to take action, via compounds and summons, against the parties who are erecting a permanent structure in the middle of the road? In fact, any party who persist in constructing illegal barriers, in the face of compounds issued, must be charged in the court of law.
As the old adage that we members of the opposition is so fond of using, “justice must not only be done, but seen to be done”. The rakyat will be understandably discontented if the government enforces the law against the man on the street, while allows room for negotiation and delay when commercial interests are involved.
It is hence critical that the Menteri Besar of Selangor demonstrate much greater urgency in the matter, without letting the situation deteriorate further than it already has via inertia. If the first night’s deployment of the FRU against residents who wanted the law upheld has not injected such urgency, then we certainly hope that the second night’s deployment would have.
The new state government is being given certain leeway to perform by the people of Selangor. However, it will quickly lose its goodwill if the people’s interest are not given priority.
As I said, scratch Khalid Ibrahim or some of those in PKR, and you will likely see red and white stripes.
#41 by Killer on Wednesday, 14 May 2008 - 10:54 am
Friday, May 09, 2008
Khalid Ibrahim refuses to turun padang to Cheras
Sadly, Khalid Ibrahim as the first non-BN MB has failed the people of Cheras who had supported and voted him in as Federal MB for Bandar Tun Razak.
Malaysiakini tells us in its article Barricade row: Pakatan state gov’t ‘weak’ that the Bandar Mahkota Cheras (BMC) residents have slammed Khalid Ibrahim for refusing to order the Kajang Municipal Council into taking legal action against Grand Saga for erecting the illegal structure.
The Kajang Municipal Council has jurisdiction over the road on which the toll company has built a barrier to prevent Cheras residents from accessing the highway.
To add insult to injury, Khalid Ibrahim had turned down their invitation to visit the barricaded area. This is in contrast to the people’s oriented action by Ronnie Liu, the DAP ADUN who is also a Selango exco member. Ronnie had turun padang almost immediately to look into the Cheras residents’ grievances.
Alamak, is Khalid’s old red and white stripes showing though?
An emotional Tan Boon Hwa, who was assaulted by the police, cited Section 46 of the Street, Drainage and Building Act 1974, which states that anyone who erects an illegal structure in a public place can be arrested without warrant by any police officer or officer of the local authority.
Instead the residents who were the victims of the action of Grand Saga, an action taking place in a public place on Selangor State land, were battered and tear gas-ed by the police who arrived on the scene to support the actions of the road toll company.
And Khalid Ibrahim has not only avoided taking remedial action over the illegal structure, when he possesses the power to do so, but has also refused to visit the site which is victimising the pockets of the Cheras residents. snubbing the residents’ invitation.
What a lousy MB – is he any better than Khir Toyo for his apathy to the rakyat’s genuine grievances and a big company’s illegal action?
As I said, his stripes …….. or spots …….. may be showing through (looks like he’s indicating those can never be changed).
Incidentally the Bandar Tun Razak parliamentary constituency has the second largest number of voters (72,628) in Kuala Lumpur after Seputeh. It embraces 19 housing estates: Taman Mulia, Taman Bukit Anggerik, ….. Batu 3-4 Jalan Cheras, …… Taman Connaught, …….. Taman Len Sen and Taman Bukit Cheras.
Its residents comprises 52% Malays, 39% Chinese, and 8% Indians.
#42 by Killer on Wednesday, 14 May 2008 - 10:59 am
Time for Khalid Ibrahim to go
Richard Teo | May 12, 08 4:40pm
I refer to the Malaysiakini report Barricade row: Pakatan state gov’t ‘weak’.
Ever since the beginning when Pakatan Rakyat under Khalid Ibrahim took over the reins of the Selangor government, there was already signs of a weak government.
Events until now have not dispelled those lingering doubts. Immediately after taking control of the government, there was strong compelling evidence that the previous administration was shredding important state documents which could have incriminated their administration and yet Khalid chose to ignore them with a nonchalant attitude as if it was of little importance.
That single act of omission has virtually deprived the rakyat of the opportunity to punish those perpetrators of their crime for which they were so eager to conceal and destroy.
When Penang’s chief minister announced their intention to abolish the NEP and replace it with one that is more equitable there was a deafening silence from the Selangor state government.
Either Khalid didn’t hear the announcement or he had totally forgotten about the Pakatan’s manifesto.
Khalid’s reluctance to prosecute those Umno leaders responsible for shredding those state documents is understandable. After all, he was once a blue-eyed boy of Umno who so happened to lose their favour sometime ago.
Fortune has been kind to him and now that he is in the driver’s seat, he is slowly remembering his old Umno roots.
As long as Selangor continues to be under the helm of Khalid, there will be little change from its previous Umno predeccessor. After all both Khalid and Mohd Khir Toyo came from the same Umno origin.
In the case of the Bandar Makhota Cheras barricade, the whole matter could have been expeditiously resolved if there was strong leadership.
Land in the state comes under state jurisdiction and if the incumbent government cannot even settle what is within their purview then Pakatan Rakyat is heading for a very short term.
Five years in politics is a very short time. If the Pakatan cannot reform the state governments like it promised, then maybe the rakyat will have to look for an alternative government.
#43 by Killer on Wednesday, 14 May 2008 - 11:03 am
Pakatan Rakyat accused of lawlessness
Wednesday, 07 May 2008 08:08am
• Kit Siang gets back his kind of Dewan grilling
©New Straits Times (Used by permission)
THE Pakatan Rakyat has been accused of condoning lawlessness
Datuk Tiong King Sing (BN-Bintulu) said MPs from PR had supported a group of Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents in removing the barriers placed across an access road to the Kajang-Cheras highway.
The road was built by Narajaya Sdn Bhd, the developer of the Bandar Mahkota Cheras township, to ensure speedy access to the highway.
However, Grand Saga, the highway’s concessionaire, was against the access road as it would bypass the Batu 11 toll plaza.
Bandar Mahkota Cheras motorists would have to pay a 90 sen toll if there was no access road.
The road, built three years ago, was barricaded upon completion due to the tussle between Grand Saga and Narajaya.
However, 10 days ago, residents and elected representatives from PR removed the barriers.
Tiong demanded to know from Lim Kit Siang (DAP-Ipoh Timur) if he condoned such lawlessness from his party men.
“Is this not abuse of power?” he asked during the debate on the King’s speech.
Lim Lip Eng (DAP-Segambut), who was present at the Cheras incident at the end of last month, interjected and said they did not take the law into their hands.
Teo Nie Ching (DAP-Serdang), who was also there, defended her role and said that it was within the prerogative of the state government to remove the barriers.
Kit Siang said he was not aware of what his party men had done.
“I don’t know about this,” he said brushing aside Tiong’s claim that the DAP leaders had been involved in an unlawful act.
Later, Selangor Menteri Besar Tan Sri Abdul Khalid Ibrahim said at the lobby of Parliament that the state government did not condone an illegal act.
“The state would not like to break the law,” he said adding that the people were seeking to expedite the decision-making process involved in opening the access road. He added the state government wanted to find an amicable solution.
#44 by Killer on Wednesday, 14 May 2008 - 11:15 am
This is from Aisehman….
For Whom The Bells Toll
16 March 2008 | 774 Views
So here we go. A promise is a promise.
In PKR’s manifesto for the general election, the word toll was mentioned four times:
… Tolls and tariffs will also no longer be raised unreasonably only to satisfy conglomerates and corporate interests.
… With the billions that can be saved by avoiding scandals like the Port Klang Free Zone, multi-million ringgit arms commissions and grossly disadvantageous toll and tariff concessions, KeADILan will immediately bring down the price of petrol and stabilise the prices of basic goods, tariffs and tolls.
… Toll and tariff concessions that favour corporate interests by being disadvantageous against Malaysians must be immediately renegotiated.
I was reading the latest issue of The Edge when I came across this:
Selangor is the state government with the most number of listed companies, all housed under unlisted Kumpulan Darul Ehsan Bhd (KDEB)
… KDEB … has a 20% stake in Taliworks Corp Bhd, which … has the concession for the Cheras-Kajang Highway.
… Among the unlisted entities where KDEB has stakes are … Sistem Penyuraian Trafik KL Barat Holding Bhd, better known as the Sprint Highway.
Tan Sri Khalid, the road ahead is clear — it’s the people’s way or the highway.
We await your move on this matter.
#45 by bunny on Wednesday, 14 May 2008 - 3:07 pm
Dear wesuffer,
I totally understand the pains suffered by the BMC residents as I so have some friends staying there too. Putting a toll booth is merely a suggestion which I can think of for the time being after considering all the legal stand points as well as everyone loses and gains.
Have your ever see the masterplan before? Have you ever see the highway alignment plan before? This access road really does not appear as part of the linkage to the highway. The linkage to Cheras Perdana and Hussein Onn were clearly stated in the alignment plan. I got to know this due to some jobs that i was working on 1 year ago.
If I am not mistaken, Narajaya’s 1st approval back in 1994 was obtained from State Govt but the development did not kick start till much later due to financial crisis at Lion Group. Subsequently in 1995, the Federal Govt decided to privatize and upgrade the old Jalan Cheras and Kumpulan Peransang Selangor Berhad (KPS) won the concession and incorporated Grand Saga Sdn Bhd with some other small investors to undertake the project.
Do you know who is KPS??? KPS is belongs to Kumpulan Dahrul Ehsan Berhad – the investment arm of the Selangor State Govt!!!
Anyway KPS has already some enuff money by selling Grand Saga to new investors few years ago!!
Now you tell me who is the real culprit ? Grand Saga or State & Federal Govt ?
Another thing, Narajaya should not have promised a toll free access to the residents when they did not have any final/absolute approval to build the access road from Federal Govt. Why no resident file a suit again Narajaya for misrepresentation to the house buyers??
Frankly speaking, the Grand Saga has a strong concession agreement to protect their interest, Federal Govt can always taking the agreement stand point by not opening the road.
Guess who has the weakest point here?? Not Grand Saga like most of us thought of… it is Narajaya (the joker hiding behind the shits and let you, the resident and poor MP to fight). Why are there so silent?
Any developer who wanna link new access road “which is no listed in the alignment plan” would require to compensate the highway concessionaire. This is a standard clause in any highway concession agreement around the world. Narajaya should know this before the access road was built as the approval from JKR SHOULD have stated that the compensation to Grand Saga as one of the condition to the approval. Obviously Narajaya just ignore it and continue to build the road and that’s why the JKR did not instruct Grand Saga to open the barricade.
Wake up!!! You r whacking the wrong guy. Ask Narajaya to compensate the house buyers if the road remains closed or Narajaya to compensate Grand Saga in order to open the road !!!
Think hard… who has make all the housebuyers money?? it’s Narajaya!! Developer always sweet talk us when selling us the house and then went disappear when problems comes.. Why? Because the money already in the pocket, u think they will ever vomit it out again??? Instead of filing a suit against Grand Saga, why not file against Narajaya???
If Govt ever be the one to compensate Grand Saga, it will be using OUR MONEY… then what’s the difference by us paying the toll???
#46 by bunny on Wednesday, 14 May 2008 - 3:17 pm
Federal Govt money = our (tax payer) money i.e income tax, service tax..
State Govt money = our (tax payer) money i.e. cukai tanah, quit rent..
If Federal Govt compensate Grand Saga, that means WE are paying the toll UPFRONT
If NO one compensate Grand Saga, shareholders of Grand Saga (i.e. KDE, investment arm of Selangor) will lost money immediate. Where is money from? From US.. and they will left with less money to maintain the welfare of the Selangor residents.
If Narajaya compensate Grand Saga, Narajaya will JUST need to reduce the profit that have made from the house buyers of BMC. None of our money will be used.
#47 by darcwil on Wednesday, 14 May 2008 - 3:28 pm
Wow. Reading again the manifesto set out by PKR posted by Killer above, they are very visonary indeed, yes. But a bit far fetched and positivist. I’m not saying it is not possible, but come on events in Selangor not really living up to much of it…
Now what?
#48 by lopez on Wednesday, 14 May 2008 - 10:58 pm
Public conveniences used to be the responsibility of the gomen, whose officers are empowered to protect the people interest, Some claimed we r a develped nation similar to DEVELOPED NATIONS AND COMMUNITIES BY INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS (relative)
The same fools and idiots drawing each month salary and perks at the tax payer’s expense , now take sides for a Commercial entity where they have entered into matrimony for mutual gain.
It is begining to show there must be some very big mistake by these gaji buta entering into a bias contract and now cannot back off unless some one forego his pension.
How else it is not helping to resolve such simple problem where big building s can be demolished overnight despite ,,,,..
it is getting smeely already……
#49 by mikecivic2003 on Thursday, 15 May 2008 - 10:00 am
To Bunny,
Hi.. i though Narajaya did pay compensation to GrandSaga on the access road? as each house sold they have to pay Rm 5000 for the access road. Now im really confuse.
#50 by ktteokt on Friday, 16 May 2008 - 7:28 am
In the first place, who approved the access road to BMC? And why is the “jurisdiction” of Grand Saga higher than the authority which approved the access road to be built?