Yeah, I also wished that we have that magical moment where most crimes would be somehow recorded on video. You asked for proof yeah, I don’t think it’s easy to whip out a camera and ask the aggressor to pose while u shoot yourself being assaulted. Please be realistic. It’s a good practice to back facts with sources however, it may not always be possible. If mere quoting of sources means everything to u, then someone will open up the gates to question the veracity of your sources and then the sources of your sources and so on.
I don’t even want to go into what constitutes arrest, the validity of arrest and remedies for wrongful arrest as well as need for warrant b4 arrest coz it’s gonna be long. I don’t have the time,u may engage undergrad2 for tat matter. Suffice for me to say remedy for unlawful arrest lies in civil action for damages. Ok, proof- go n read the case of PP v Kok Khee Mind you it’s a very long n tedious process b4 u even can smell ur damages. The abuses are real. Proof? Try an offence urself, I would suggest a compoundable offence for u so u won’t get jail time. Oh, remember to wear a t-shirt stating “PR forever”!

correct, correct…. this also reminds me, who am I going to vote when I am be able to cast my first vote in the next election since I am finish my university in overseas, and also force my family, and friends not to vote these clowns anymore because they’ve been voting them since the they are eligible for vote!!!!!

It is sad to see widespread police abuses in this country. Where is the discipline of our police? PR please do something.

Even the stupid Haidar wanted the govt. to bear responsibility to read out the verdict on Lingam.

Nobody dare to challenge the court, u must either be influential, holding high post in BN and rich.

RM 790,000 is just sauce dipping amount, his son, and son in law have amassed billionth from shares and govt. projects. He just wanted to enjoy the priviledge that Tun Dr. Mahathir has leftover, by cancelling all his predecessor projects, the cancellation funds can then rechannel back to his family coffers.

After the opposition has won 5 states, he can rechannel more funds, by cancelling & delaying all the opposition states projects. He just have to act dumb, Malay 66% of them half of those Malays are mentally handicap. Thanks goodness the Chinese and Indian managed to group together 45%/66% of the Malay out from misery to vote the right party.

After all, in Malaysia if u r rich, u can steal, robe, rape, involved in vice and murder, can easily use ur wealth to prolong the case, e.g. Tantuya case, Lingam case, Soi Lek.

If there is a confusion over when a person is under arrest and when he is just being cautioned, it is not inconceivable then that protesting becomes translated to resisting arrest. Would it not be timely for Parliament to introduce the Miranda rights not just to protect your constitutional rights and mine but to inform you and me the exact time that we are under arrest?

Resisting arrest after all is an offence in itself and mandates the use of handcuffs.

When I wrote “When you are physically abused (arrested, cuffed and kicked) for speaking up…” I do not expect the words to be read disjunctively – nor in the same order they are written.

I believe that should absolve me from having to point to the law that does.

Good try!

damn bias and not based on solid principles, too much “sentiments” & emotion. Hope this will change with time and that all MPs will learn to mature nevertheless.

To those that don’t, too bad lah! we won’t see u again, when it comes “to the next round”

Press release must be something like this.After hearing complains form our people we decided to take action ourself, We don,t want an accident to happen.blah blah blah Anyway that ,s what any BN YB will do.

Don’t leave home without your video camera. You never know when oppoortunity might knock.

1. Lingam case
2. Attantuya murder case - seems to be extended forever
3. The inedible ink fiasco
4. The unsolved murder cases (there seem to be a lot these days)
5. High profile corruption cases

Can the PR do something, maybe with the assistant of respected retired police, AG, BPR (surely we need their help on these) to set up a commissioning body to investigate all these. Some sort like an independent body. It members shall be from lawyer, ex-police, accountant, doctors etc to monitor the progress and if necessary investigate of all these proceedings, cases.

Their role is to advise and monitor and maybe report to the PR and SUHAKAM as well on its finding. Their finding must be made public. Some sort like a shadow body to the AG, police, BPR etc. The 3 PR components, concerned citizen and the five PR states shall come out with the fund to sponsor the body. Get the mandate and endorsement from the King so that this body will be respected and given appropriate info and assistant from AG, police, BPR. Being outside the current system and well as out of influence of the present government, this body can provide a bird’s eye view and being transparent as well.

The Suhakam though is being independent and have respected members in it, but seems to go no where. They do not have the teeth to bite things.

Today at 08: 28.19 (4 hours ago)

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I could be persuaded if there any video clip of showing these reps being assaulted.

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Ah, yes we need the video, of course.

I do not know what is it about Malaysians and video. It must be some fetish thing, I reckon. Apperantly video camera is a standard accessory that every Malaysian must carry, much like a cell phone. Unless, you are fortunate enough to have one of those fancy cell phones with the integrated video camera. But please make sure that the picture resolution is good enough though (at least 2 megapixel) so that the evidence is solid.

I seem to recall not too long ago, we had that clip in a certain hotel room in Batu Pahat. Due to the poor quality of the recording, the actual drama was compromised much to the dismay of viewers around the world. The much hyped video over promised, heighten the expecations of many but under delivered. Despite that, the character in this particular video confess but claimed no wrong doing and was at first quite unapologetic about letting his fans and his pants down. I think he came to his senses after lots of feedback and decided to retire. Good for him. Common sense did prevail.

There was also another video of a drunk reportedly talking rubbish over the phone. The quality of the video was so bad that the drunk could not recognized himself in that clip. Perhaps he still tipsy that moment when he was shown the video but the poor quality of the recording couldn’t have helped.

Key learnings from the examples above

1. Members of opposition parties must be equipped with a high quality video camera.
2. Send them to video taking classes and make sure that they take the test.
3. Only members that passed the test and are certified can stand for election.

Once the video clip is produced. We have solid evidence and the culprit(s) goes to jail right?

Wrong, we now have to prove the authenticity of the video.

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Yeah man, Bung is really stupid! But to protect Ketuanan Melayu, no choice! Have to be an idiot ma…

This is only one side of the story. The police force belong to UMNO, that’s a fact. Opposition politicians assaulted and mishandled, it’s expected, our UMNO politicians are getting physical because they fear losing power.

Yes, because they have special rights!

They always seems to take things too personally. Grow up!

A good leader is always a good listener! Not like some baboons fighting for food!

At least we haven’t seen any MPs throwing chairs or books around!

I do love DAP and Pakatan but i dont know about you. If your comment is not so 1-sided biased and have alot of personality attack like fat, etc etc, then probably it’s worth reading. Otherwise, you are wasting the blog space.

PS - You still havent report your failure back your evilmaster?

It is expected right? Infact I want them to remain like this so that everyday I can remind myself that my support for Pakatan is Correct, Correct, Correct.

Jasin and Kinabatangan, two clowns shouting nonsense law and wasting parliament time.

I am hoping the PM will dissolve the parliament 2 years earlier in this upcoming election, I guess he won’t!!

I know exactly what you mean. LOL

There are many different things to do in this world. I wonder why some people choose to be a part-time clown. Correction, a part-time blog commenting clown.

Go and get a better job man. You can do better than this.

You are so biased! You seem to be very critical of Pakatan and only siding BN. I swear I wont read your comments anymore. I’m sorry I even wasted my time reading your previous few comments.

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(Wipe tears of my eyes)

HAHAHHAHAH~~~HAHAHAHAH~~!!!!!

So I don’t think its bad but clearly there is not much brain in BN..

Though I am not a lawyer, one can hardly term arresting and handcuffing as physical abuse. Care to point out the law that says so ?

Also these guys are arrested not for “speaking up by and drawing public attention to the lack of response to complaints by citizen”. It is for breaking the law.

Today at 05: 52.17 (2 hours ago)
When you are physically abused (arrested, cuffed and kicked) for speaking up and drawing public attention to the lack of response to complaints by citizens by the very people whose role is to protect them and to maintain public order, then it amounts to a betrayal of public trust. They feel violated much like you a member of a gated community would feel violated when your home is broken into by members of the security who are there to protect you.

Yo undergrad2:

I could be persuaded if there any video clip of showing these reps being assaulted.

If this is true, I share your outrage and the perpetrators must be dealt with according with the law.

However, on the other hand, I have seen so many times that politicians using the term “assaulted and manhandled” when in actual fact they violently resist arrest and use abusive language to rile the cops.

While I am not privy to this particular incident, I agree that if PDRM used force beyond what they are allowd under the law in arresting law breakers, then by all means provide evidence so that actions could be taken. I don’t think the current IGP or AAB would tolerate such behaviour.

But what I am trying highlight here is the actions of the MPs in behaving like common gangsters and by-passing due legal process. This has to stop NOW as it would turn the nation into a cowboy country when the law makers turn law breakers.

My God, you just have to watch his repeated obstructions of Parliamentary proceedings to confirm that he is really stupid and idiotic! And I do not write this harshly but honestly. Malaysians expect more and better from their Parliamentarians. I would never say the same thing of just about anyone on RapidKL or LRT but this Bung here is an MP! Do they have TVs in KInabatangan so as to know what they are voting for - such a poor specimen into Parliament!

The tribunal acting as the trier of the law and that as trier of the facts must be separated. That would in my opinon reduce the risk of a miscarriage of justice - bearing in mind of course that our system of justice is not perfect, never has been but until there is a better one we have to do the best we could to ensure the administration of justice does not punish the innocent while letting lose some guilty ones.

I have not read the reports you mentioned but if the AG is merely drawing the ruler’s attention to the law, that is not per se seditious.

The above notwithstanding, anyone who queries as to the limits of that law when it involves the Ruler of any state and/or the Agong is treading a fine line. Remember also that Sec. 3 sub-Sec (3) deems intention as irrelevant.

Here the AG is treading that fine line referred to above when he is reported to have said:

“He said the Yang di-Pertuan Agong was fully aware of the provision and that His Majesty cannot interfere in the appointing of the Menteri Besar.”

Basically the police report made against YB Karpal Singh is on the premise that he challenged the authority of DYMM Sultan Perak. So what the AG did is the same. He challenged the authority of the DYMM SPB YDP Agong.

The AG is challenging the authority of the DYMM SPB YDP Agong by saying that he cannot interfere in the affairs of the State of Terengganu.

In essence, DYMM Sultan Mizan is the Sultan of Terengganu and will resume that post after his term as the DYMM SPB YDP Agong.

Of course, he would want an MB that he can get along with and not some Federal Appointee per se.

Is the AG raising discontent or disaffection amongst the subjects of the Yang di-Peruan Agong or of the Ruler of any State or amongst the inhabitants of Malaysia or of any State?

a hungry man is an angry man.
absolutely correct.

two months now after the 8th march general election.
i never felt good, and i still am not feeling good.

The prime minister has another election in October.

When those physically violated are also legislators in the nation’s highest law making body, then it begs the question as to whether those entrusted with the maintenance of law and order are not themselves working to break the very law legislators make. When those who take the side of the law breakers are themselves legislators, then we are entitled to ask if the institutions we put our faith in and the powers that are supposed to separate them are just cover for our lack of faith in democracy.

KUALA LUMPUR, March 18 (Bernama) — Attorney-General Tan Sri Abdul Gani Patail today stressed that there was no tussle between the Regent of Terengganu and the Regency Advisory Council with the state government pertaining to the appointment of the Menteri Besar of the state.

He said this was because the process of appointing the Menteri Besar for the state was spelled out under Article 14 (2) of the state constitution.

“As such, the candidate appointed as the Menteri Besar is not the nominee of the Regent or the Regency Advisory Council but a person who is appointed according to the laws of the state,” he said in a statement here.

He said the person must be a member of the state legislative assembly who in the opinion of the Regent and Regency Advisory Council commanded majority support in the assembly.

He said the Yang di-Pertuan Agong was fully aware of the provision and that His Majesty cannot interfere in the appointing of the Menteri Besar.

“This is because under Article 34(1) of the Federal Constitution, the Yang di-Pertuan Agong cannot function as a ruler of a state except as the head of the Islamic religion.

“In connection with this, the Yang di-Pertuan Agong does not have his own candidate for the post (Menteri Besar of Terengganu),” stressed Abdul Gani.

He said that His Majesty was aware of the fact that appointing of the Menteri Besar lied fully with the Regent and the Regency Advisory Council, and that His Majesty had no role whatsoever under the law concerning it.

Gani’s explanation comes in the wake of speculation about the position.

Datuk Seri Idris Jusoh whose appointment as the Menteri Besar of Terengganu has been delayed since the 12th general election ended on March 8.

On a side note:…Malaysia get ready for Economic Chaos…Crude at record, rice, food all rising….Malaysian UMNO-BN tidak apa.

In anger and Hunger we will know how to deal with UMNO-BN leaders…..the people have spoken…whatever it takes!!