Comments on: On judicial reform http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 03:53:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Global Voices Online » Reforming the Malaysian Judicial Services http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-144328 Global Voices Online » Reforming the Malaysian Judicial Services Sat, 01 Nov 2008 00:46:59 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/#comment-144328 [...] judges by the Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad, followed by what has been called as “two decades of judicial darkness“, including poison pen letters alleging judicial corruption in 1996 and culmination of the [...] [...] judges by the Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad, followed by what has been called as “two decades of judicial darkness“, including poison pen letters alleging judicial corruption in 1996 and culmination of the [...]

]]> By: Haris Ibrahim: What’s Happening Minister Zaid Ibrahim? « Din Merican: the Malaysian DJ Blogger http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-118804 Haris Ibrahim: What’s Happening Minister Zaid Ibrahim? « Din Merican: the Malaysian DJ Blogger Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:01:27 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/#comment-118804 [...] 7th May, YB Lim Kit Siang posed the following challenge to Pak Lah in his blog [...] [...] 7th May, YB Lim Kit Siang posed the following challenge to Pak Lah in his blog [...]

]]> By: Zaki past the post and then reform the judicary? Is that the gameplan? « The People’s Parliament http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-118619 Zaki past the post and then reform the judicary? Is that the gameplan? « The People’s Parliament Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:13:57 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/#comment-118619 [...] 7th May, YB Lim Kit Siang posed the following challenge to Pak Lah in his blog [...] [...] 7th May, YB Lim Kit Siang posed the following challenge to Pak Lah in his blog [...]

]]> By: lakilompat http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-102682 lakilompat Fri, 09 May 2008 03:24:59 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/#comment-102682 "Its been a while now and no news from Zaid Ibrahim over the progress. Its been stalled as we speak…." Remember that "Sht" Muzaphar promise to reveal the experimental result of his space voyage. Where is it now? Remember that OTK plan to reveal the PKFZ scandals, where is it now? Remember PL reform? where is it now. The BN govt. is a bunch of liars, that's what keep foreigner away from Malaysia. It is an excuse to say, China and India are competitive place to invest. It is the BN govt. who made Malaysian less competitive:- When foreigner plan to invest USD 1 billionth:- 1) Must subscribe from Malay contractor or concession, this is owned by UMNO 2) Any foreigner CEO coming to Malaysia to invest more than USD 1 billionth will be granted "Datukship" e.g. Datuk Michael Dell (Founder and CEO of Dell), Agilent ex CEO "Datuk Ned Barnholt" 3) All the manufacturers CEO, Director, or Managing Director are compulsory to contribute or donate when UMNO is having functions. 4) Penalized for supporting opposition party. “Its been a while now and no news from Zaid Ibrahim over the progress. Its been stalled as we speak….”

Remember that “Sht” Muzaphar promise to reveal the experimental result of his space voyage. Where is it now?

Remember that OTK plan to reveal the PKFZ scandals, where is it now?

Remember PL reform? where is it now.

The BN govt. is a bunch of liars, that’s what keep foreigner away from Malaysia. It is an excuse to say, China and India are competitive place to invest. It is the BN govt. who made Malaysian less competitive:-

When foreigner plan to invest USD 1 billionth:-

1) Must subscribe from Malay contractor or concession, this is owned by UMNO
2) Any foreigner CEO coming to Malaysia to invest more than USD 1 billionth will be granted “Datukship” e.g. Datuk Michael Dell (Founder and CEO of Dell), Agilent ex CEO “Datuk Ned Barnholt”
3) All the manufacturers CEO, Director, or Managing Director are compulsory to contribute or donate when UMNO is having functions.
4) Penalized for supporting opposition party.

]]> By: Bigjoe http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-102536 Bigjoe Thu, 08 May 2008 07:28:53 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/#comment-102536 As much as I agree with every point Sdr. Lim has pointed out there. The cynic in me tells me that the so called independent judicial appointment commission will also fall a bit short. Its been a while now and no news from Zaid Ibrahim over the progress. Its been stalled as we speak.... As much as I agree with every point Sdr. Lim has pointed out there. The cynic in me tells me that the so called independent judicial appointment commission will also fall a bit short. Its been a while now and no news from Zaid Ibrahim over the progress. Its been stalled as we speak….

]]> By: lakilompat http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-102436 lakilompat Thu, 08 May 2008 00:55:12 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/#comment-102436 They don't consume pork, but have those similar characteristic to pig, slow and live to eat. They don’t consume pork, but have those similar characteristic to pig, slow and live to eat.

]]> By: lakilompat http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-102434 lakilompat Thu, 08 May 2008 00:53:38 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/#comment-102434 "The Prime Minister recently announced reform proposals for the judiciary and in the fight against corruption." This is not new, 4 yrs ago he was granted 91% mandate from the ppl. (in fact ppl. are been lied, stupid Malaysian). After proving he is a bloody liar, ppl. has become smarter now then vote against him. PL still did not get the message, what Rakyat want is a just judiciary not a corrupted one only then Malaysian can proseper, why they don't pig but do have those pig characteristic, slow, and just know how to eat. “The Prime Minister recently announced reform proposals for the judiciary and in the fight against corruption.”

This is not new, 4 yrs ago he was granted 91% mandate from the ppl. (in fact ppl. are been lied, stupid Malaysian).

After proving he is a bloody liar, ppl. has become smarter now then vote against him.

PL still did not get the message, what Rakyat want is a just judiciary not a corrupted one only then Malaysian can proseper, why they don’t pig but do have those pig characteristic, slow, and just know how to eat.

]]> By: yhsiew http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-102424 yhsiew Thu, 08 May 2008 00:15:18 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/#comment-102424 PL always criticized Malaysians of having a Third world mindset. Frankly, I don't see how PL and Lajip's mindsets could be better than Third world's in matters pertaining to human rights, judicial reform and press reform. PL always criticized Malaysians of having a Third world mindset. Frankly, I don’t see how PL and Lajip’s mindsets could be better than Third world’s in matters pertaining to human rights, judicial reform and press reform.

]]> By: ktteokt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-102423 ktteokt Wed, 07 May 2008 23:46:02 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/#comment-102423 Can we trust what AUGUSTINE PAUL writes in his judgments any more?? Can we trust what AUGUSTINE PAUL writes in his judgments any more??

]]> By: ktteokt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-102422 ktteokt Wed, 07 May 2008 23:44:25 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/#comment-102422 How can we take the judgments of Malaysian judges for granted if after convicting DSAI for so many years, Dr. M comes out and say he has in fact "wronged" DSAI on purpose years back? So on what grounds did the trial judge base on when passing sentence then? Wasn't that a "misjudgment" on his part? And today, we still find him sitting in some High Court in Malaya, passing similar "misjudgment". Is this how Malaysia look at JUSTICE???? How can we take the judgments of Malaysian judges for granted if after convicting DSAI for so many years, Dr. M comes out and say he has in fact “wronged” DSAI on purpose years back? So on what grounds did the trial judge base on when passing sentence then? Wasn’t that a “misjudgment” on his part? And today, we still find him sitting in some High Court in Malaya, passing similar “misjudgment”. Is this how Malaysia look at JUSTICE????

]]> By: hiro http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-102384 hiro Wed, 07 May 2008 15:44:45 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/#comment-102384 Is Zaid already resting? Someone should hound him on a daily basis. Don't let my skepticism win this gamble - that it's really a delaying tactic, and that it's all hot air with nothing to show so far, or when it is shown, it is another half baked measure like Special Complaints Commission. Is Zaid already resting? Someone should hound him on a daily basis.

Don’t let my skepticism win this gamble – that it’s really a delaying tactic, and that it’s all hot air with nothing to show so far, or when it is shown, it is another half baked measure like Special Complaints Commission.

]]> By: undergrad2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-102362 undergrad2 Wed, 07 May 2008 14:01:05 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/#comment-102362 “Reform ? Thieves don’t reform” Godfather I beg to differ. Thieve do reform! They reform their ways of doing their business of looting and plundering. They bring new tools to their tool bag – and they stay away from dangerous anti-depressants. “Reform ? Thieves don’t reform” Godfather

I beg to differ. Thieve do reform! They reform their ways of doing their business of looting and plundering. They bring new tools to their tool bag – and they stay away from dangerous anti-depressants.

]]> By: Godfather http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-102361 Godfather Wed, 07 May 2008 13:59:39 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/#comment-102361 ktteokt: In UMNO parlance, "the issue of liability does not arise". ktteokt:

In UMNO parlance, “the issue of liability does not arise”.

]]> By: ktteokt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-102360 ktteokt Wed, 07 May 2008 13:56:26 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/#comment-102360 Compensation on the one hand is an admission of wrongdoing, but by refusing to admit their mistakes in sacking these judges, the BN government contradicts itself. So are they saying that we pay you ex-gratia payment without admission of liability??? Compensation on the one hand is an admission of wrongdoing, but by refusing to admit their mistakes in sacking these judges, the BN government contradicts itself. So are they saying that we pay you ex-gratia payment without admission of liability???

]]> By: Godfather http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-102353 Godfather Wed, 07 May 2008 13:46:34 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/#comment-102353 Zaid Ibrahim recommends an apology to Salleh Abas, but UMNO says no. Lee Hwa Beng says he wants an independent auditor for the PKFTZ scandal, and I am willing to bet lots of money than UMNO will also say no. Only when UMNO is totally cleansed with new blood at the very top can reform occur. Zaid Ibrahim recommends an apology to Salleh Abas, but UMNO says no. Lee Hwa Beng says he wants an independent auditor for the PKFTZ scandal, and I am willing to bet lots of money than UMNO will also say no.

Only when UMNO is totally cleansed with new blood at the very top can reform occur.

]]> By: Godfather http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-102346 Godfather Wed, 07 May 2008 13:29:18 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/#comment-102346 Reform ? Thieves don't reform. Thieves try to figure out new ways of stealing if their tried and trusted methods are no longer working. Reform ? Thieves don’t reform. Thieves try to figure out new ways of stealing if their tried and trusted methods are no longer working.

]]> By: lopez http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-102334 lopez Wed, 07 May 2008 12:59:40 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/#comment-102334 It is a joke how those fellas got nominated in those commissions, selecting them already is enough and not understood by many...but for sure they will sure do their job....the way expected of them by their supporters. It is a joke how those fellas got nominated in those commissions, selecting them already is enough and not understood by many…but for sure they will sure do their job….the way expected of them by their supporters.

]]> By: undergrad2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-102319 undergrad2 Wed, 07 May 2008 12:12:31 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/05/07/on-judicial-reform/#comment-102319 The BN government can give RM1 each to them for all we care but it would go a long way to compensate them and all Malaysians for their sufferings, the embarrassment, the humiliation and the disgrace if that is also accompanied by an unconditional apology, and an acknowledgement that the time has come for change, that we can no longer wait for justice to be restored and compensation made to the victims of an unfair justice system, that there is a need to restore our confidence in the judiciary and then outlining what steps need to be taken and the time frame. The BN government can give RM1 each to them for all we care but it would go a long way to compensate them and all Malaysians for their sufferings, the embarrassment, the humiliation and the disgrace if that is also accompanied by an unconditional apology, and an acknowledgement that the time has come for change, that we can no longer wait for justice to be restored and compensation made to the victims of an unfair justice system, that there is a need to restore our confidence in the judiciary and then outlining what steps need to be taken and the time frame.

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