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	<title>Comments on: Goodwill ex gratia payments to Anwar, Guan Eng, Syed Ahmad Idid and Operation Lalang ISA detainees?</title>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/19/goodwill-ex-gratia-payments-to-anwar-guan-eng-syed-ahmad-idid-and-operation-lalang-isa-detainees/comment-page-2/#comment-99502</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think AAB is a brave man not even Tun Dr. Mahathir can compare, he is not afraid of his &quot;face&quot; as much as Tun Dr. Mahathir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think AAB is a brave man not even Tun Dr. Mahathir can compare, he is not afraid of his &#8220;face&#8221; as much as Tun Dr. Mahathir.</p>
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		<title>By: ktteokt</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/19/goodwill-ex-gratia-payments-to-anwar-guan-eng-syed-ahmad-idid-and-operation-lalang-isa-detainees/comment-page-2/#comment-99422</link>
		<dc:creator>ktteokt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps AAB is so generous, he may decide to offer the other side of his face to be slapped!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps AAB is so generous, he may decide to offer the other side of his face to be slapped!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/19/goodwill-ex-gratia-payments-to-anwar-guan-eng-syed-ahmad-idid-and-operation-lalang-isa-detainees/comment-page-2/#comment-99375</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are treating the judges like beggars, just give the money without apologizing their past mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are treating the judges like beggars, just give the money without apologizing their past mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: seage</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/19/goodwill-ex-gratia-payments-to-anwar-guan-eng-syed-ahmad-idid-and-operation-lalang-isa-detainees/comment-page-2/#comment-99257</link>
		<dc:creator>seage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 00:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is amusing to read some of the comments around here crying &quot;foul play&quot; or &quot;unfair&quot; when the government used the tax payers monies to pay to these 6 judges or for that instance any other so-called mega project (more like mega &#039;korek&#039;). The fact is, the Rakyat makes mistakes too and should bear the outcome of their mistakes. 

The &quot;Mother-of -all-mistakes&quot; is to give your vote to BN and continuing to do so for the pass few GEs (Hopefully non of you for GE12 and more so GE13). Your votes becomes the government! It is fortunate that plenty changed their stand after much enlightenment through the rich and advance technology available to us today i.e. internet. I am guilty for believing in BN for the pass few GEs but am glad that I no longer trust in them. I am paying for my previous folly and still am now...until PR finally took over as the fed gov (fingers crossed).

No doubt Ex-gratia is the lousiest form of remedy, it is something that you can expect from the current gov. 

Ex Gratia payment = RM50m 
Dinner for the event = RM100k
Remedial action to the judicial system = Priceless

B.Ann is too blind to see that only things that no price can be attached to is priceless!

While tax payers are still being penalised for their wrong decision, lets hope that such a predicament will end in GE13! To have PR as the fed gov... priceless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amusing to read some of the comments around here crying &#8220;foul play&#8221; or &#8220;unfair&#8221; when the government used the tax payers monies to pay to these 6 judges or for that instance any other so-called mega project (more like mega &#8216;korek&#8217;). The fact is, the Rakyat makes mistakes too and should bear the outcome of their mistakes. </p>
<p>The &#8220;Mother-of -all-mistakes&#8221; is to give your vote to BN and continuing to do so for the pass few GEs (Hopefully non of you for GE12 and more so GE13). Your votes becomes the government! It is fortunate that plenty changed their stand after much enlightenment through the rich and advance technology available to us today i.e. internet. I am guilty for believing in BN for the pass few GEs but am glad that I no longer trust in them. I am paying for my previous folly and still am now&#8230;until PR finally took over as the fed gov (fingers crossed).</p>
<p>No doubt Ex-gratia is the lousiest form of remedy, it is something that you can expect from the current gov. </p>
<p>Ex Gratia payment = RM50m<br />
Dinner for the event = RM100k<br />
Remedial action to the judicial system = Priceless</p>
<p>B.Ann is too blind to see that only things that no price can be attached to is priceless!</p>
<p>While tax payers are still being penalised for their wrong decision, lets hope that such a predicament will end in GE13! To have PR as the fed gov&#8230; priceless!</p>
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		<title>By: ktteokt</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/19/goodwill-ex-gratia-payments-to-anwar-guan-eng-syed-ahmad-idid-and-operation-lalang-isa-detainees/comment-page-2/#comment-99254</link>
		<dc:creator>ktteokt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ex-gratia payment is one slap on the face of AAB who dares to turn around and tell the rakyat, &quot;It&#039;s okay, it&#039;s not painful!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ex-gratia payment is one slap on the face of AAB who dares to turn around and tell the rakyat, &#8220;It&#8217;s okay, it&#8217;s not painful!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: HJ Angus</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/19/goodwill-ex-gratia-payments-to-anwar-guan-eng-syed-ahmad-idid-and-operation-lalang-isa-detainees/comment-page-2/#comment-99130</link>
		<dc:creator>HJ Angus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is helpful to remind ourselves that our nation is called Malaysia and not UTOPIA where everything works to perfection.

I am sure that the justice demanded by many here will happen if/when the Opposition rules but that is still a work in progress.

Now there is also talk for an independent ACA but I suggest we should remind them of the IPCMC first.
http://malaysiawatch3.blogspot.com/2008/04/independent-aca-would-be-great-but-lets.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is helpful to remind ourselves that our nation is called Malaysia and not UTOPIA where everything works to perfection.</p>
<p>I am sure that the justice demanded by many here will happen if/when the Opposition rules but that is still a work in progress.</p>
<p>Now there is also talk for an independent ACA but I suggest we should remind them of the IPCMC first.<br />
<a href="http://malaysiawatch3.blogspot.com/2008/04/independent-aca-would-be-great-but-lets.html" rel="nofollow">http://malaysiawatch3.blogspot.com/2008/04/independent-aca-would-be-great-but-lets.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: ktteokt</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/19/goodwill-ex-gratia-payments-to-anwar-guan-eng-syed-ahmad-idid-and-operation-lalang-isa-detainees/comment-page-2/#comment-99124</link>
		<dc:creator>ktteokt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes me wonder what the purpose of hanging up the four large banners in front of the Courts Complex in Jalan Duta with the words &quot;BUAT KERJA&quot; really mean. Does it mean only now the Court staff will start to work? Have they been sleeping all these while? Or does it mean they are only going to work seriously from now on? Any one of these reasons will only prove the people housed within this complex as being &quot;incompetent&quot; prior to the March 8 political tsunami. This amounts to a self-confession of incompetency from the top-most judges, registrars, judicial commissioners, magistrates, court staff right up to office boys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes me wonder what the purpose of hanging up the four large banners in front of the Courts Complex in Jalan Duta with the words &#8220;BUAT KERJA&#8221; really mean. Does it mean only now the Court staff will start to work? Have they been sleeping all these while? Or does it mean they are only going to work seriously from now on? Any one of these reasons will only prove the people housed within this complex as being &#8220;incompetent&#8221; prior to the March 8 political tsunami. This amounts to a self-confession of incompetency from the top-most judges, registrars, judicial commissioners, magistrates, court staff right up to office boys.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/19/goodwill-ex-gratia-payments-to-anwar-guan-eng-syed-ahmad-idid-and-operation-lalang-isa-detainees/comment-page-2/#comment-99121</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>World class judiciary ?  More like a world class con job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>World class judiciary ?  More like a world class con job.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigjoe</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/19/goodwill-ex-gratia-payments-to-anwar-guan-eng-syed-ahmad-idid-and-operation-lalang-isa-detainees/comment-page-2/#comment-99119</link>
		<dc:creator>Bigjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole point of an ex-gratia payment in lieu of a full apology is there is no admission of guilt that can be used as a basis for any other case. Sure its a cop-out, but do we really think suddently this PM has changed his stripes completely?

The issue to me is this: IF the goal of this and subsequent administration is to build a world class judiciary, can it avoid paying for the consequences of the injustices and damages done forever?

There is such a thing as a statute of limitation in law but NOT when it comes to non-financial damages. A world class judiciary cannot avoid looking at the consequences and damages even 50 or 100 years after the incidence so long as locus standi can be proven. So even if aggrieved party such as Sdr. Lim may not be around one day, so long as his sons and grandchildren keep asking for damages, sooner or later a world class court have to hear them.

This to me is the biggest danger of the NEP, its clearly unconstitutional now if you are a strict constitutionalist as it violates Article 8. If its not removed, someday when we do have a decent court system, big group(s) of Indians and Chinese will put together the mother of all class-action suits that our government cannot afford.

Sdr. Lim suggestion is correct but its about paying for the consequences of wrong under Dr. M now rather than later where it could be even worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole point of an ex-gratia payment in lieu of a full apology is there is no admission of guilt that can be used as a basis for any other case. Sure its a cop-out, but do we really think suddently this PM has changed his stripes completely?</p>
<p>The issue to me is this: IF the goal of this and subsequent administration is to build a world class judiciary, can it avoid paying for the consequences of the injustices and damages done forever?</p>
<p>There is such a thing as a statute of limitation in law but NOT when it comes to non-financial damages. A world class judiciary cannot avoid looking at the consequences and damages even 50 or 100 years after the incidence so long as locus standi can be proven. So even if aggrieved party such as Sdr. Lim may not be around one day, so long as his sons and grandchildren keep asking for damages, sooner or later a world class court have to hear them.</p>
<p>This to me is the biggest danger of the NEP, its clearly unconstitutional now if you are a strict constitutionalist as it violates Article 8. If its not removed, someday when we do have a decent court system, big group(s) of Indians and Chinese will put together the mother of all class-action suits that our government cannot afford.</p>
<p>Sdr. Lim suggestion is correct but its about paying for the consequences of wrong under Dr. M now rather than later where it could be even worst.</p>
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		<title>By: David Chin</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Chin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on, our Deputy PM is a wise guy.He is cool and steady in this time of juncture.By declaring his statement, he is trying to please TDM and draw a line with PM indirectly. Now, it seems, PM overule TDM previous verdict and our wise DPM is sort of acting cool and safe.In order to safeguard his post in UMNO and convince the Rakyat, our PM may porbably come up more and more announcements which will give hitback to TDM&#039;s policy.Since the UMNO party election is soon coming, this is PM last try.In contradiction, DPM has different mind in securing not only his supporters but TDM&#039;s supporters as well.So, his statement may seem to PM- Kita memang tidak mahu meminta maaf( Tak ada muka la), betul kata 2nd man saya, saya tiday minta maaf.To TDM, he may feel-ni, gang saya memang jaga hati saya, apa yang saya buat dulu, memang betul.takkan pula kerajayaan sekrg nak minta maaf.Maksudnya saya salah ke.?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, our Deputy PM is a wise guy.He is cool and steady in this time of juncture.By declaring his statement, he is trying to please TDM and draw a line with PM indirectly. Now, it seems, PM overule TDM previous verdict and our wise DPM is sort of acting cool and safe.In order to safeguard his post in UMNO and convince the Rakyat, our PM may porbably come up more and more announcements which will give hitback to TDM&#8217;s policy.Since the UMNO party election is soon coming, this is PM last try.In contradiction, DPM has different mind in securing not only his supporters but TDM&#8217;s supporters as well.So, his statement may seem to PM- Kita memang tidak mahu meminta maaf( Tak ada muka la), betul kata 2nd man saya, saya tiday minta maaf.To TDM, he may feel-ni, gang saya memang jaga hati saya, apa yang saya buat dulu, memang betul.takkan pula kerajayaan sekrg nak minta maaf.Maksudnya saya salah ke.?????</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/19/goodwill-ex-gratia-payments-to-anwar-guan-eng-syed-ahmad-idid-and-operation-lalang-isa-detainees/comment-page-2/#comment-99100</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ex-gratia payment was for a person&#039;s suffering - being out of a job, being ridiculed, being incarcerated.  It basically demonstrated that there was a wrong committed, but no one will be held responsible for that wrong.

Half the present cabinet was around during 1988, and also during Ops Lallang.  The minutes of the cabinet meetings during these infamous incidents probably showed that the cabinet voted unanimously for the actions attributed to Mahathir.  Badawi and Najib would never want to open these cans of worms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ex-gratia payment was for a person&#8217;s suffering &#8211; being out of a job, being ridiculed, being incarcerated.  It basically demonstrated that there was a wrong committed, but no one will be held responsible for that wrong.</p>
<p>Half the present cabinet was around during 1988, and also during Ops Lallang.  The minutes of the cabinet meetings during these infamous incidents probably showed that the cabinet voted unanimously for the actions attributed to Mahathir.  Badawi and Najib would never want to open these cans of worms.</p>
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		<title>By: joehancl</title>
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		<dc:creator>joehancl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say, for politicians no money, sorry, for others maybe. There has never been one true blue democratic politician in the world who served although they profess to do so. They have always wanted to govern and govern with power. Paying money as compensation to politicians is amounting to buying a coat where you are asked to pay for the buttons after an agreed price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say, for politicians no money, sorry, for others maybe. There has never been one true blue democratic politician in the world who served although they profess to do so. They have always wanted to govern and govern with power. Paying money as compensation to politicians is amounting to buying a coat where you are asked to pay for the buttons after an agreed price.</p>
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		<title>By: cucu adam</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/19/goodwill-ex-gratia-payments-to-anwar-guan-eng-syed-ahmad-idid-and-operation-lalang-isa-detainees/comment-page-1/#comment-99083</link>
		<dc:creator>cucu adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The payment of the ex gratia to those judges who were sacked during the time Mathair Mohammad was the Prime Minister. It has taken 20 years for the Malaysian Government to realise and to &#039;admit&#039; the unjustice done to these judges. If not for the sacking of these judges, some of them could have ended their judicial career as the Chief Justice of this country, and if they had been appointed to this post, perhaps some of those who were then appointed  would never had been one. And because of the sacking of those judges some of those appointed don&#039;t deserve to be Chief Justice/Lord President of Malaysia. 

Having removed the good judges, the not so good judges were then appointed, and resulted in our judiciary been a laughing stock of the world. And during the period these people held office, they in turn appointed the not so good judges in the High Court, Court of Appeal and the Federal Court, which explained why some people like Ezam, Anwar Ibrahim, Lim Guan Eng and many others to be sent to the prisons.

Of course these sacked judges after having suffered 20 years in disgrace deserved more than the ex gratia. 

What is worrying the people is that the payment of ex gratia did not amount to an apology to these honourable men. But in the layman term, this constitutes an apology. Of course people like Najib and for that matter Mathair, which was the root cause to these problems, would continued to echo the sentiment that the ex gratia is not an apology. These are the people who never learned from mistakes and are too proud to admit (their) mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The payment of the ex gratia to those judges who were sacked during the time Mathair Mohammad was the Prime Minister. It has taken 20 years for the Malaysian Government to realise and to &#8216;admit&#8217; the unjustice done to these judges. If not for the sacking of these judges, some of them could have ended their judicial career as the Chief Justice of this country, and if they had been appointed to this post, perhaps some of those who were then appointed  would never had been one. And because of the sacking of those judges some of those appointed don&#8217;t deserve to be Chief Justice/Lord President of Malaysia. </p>
<p>Having removed the good judges, the not so good judges were then appointed, and resulted in our judiciary been a laughing stock of the world. And during the period these people held office, they in turn appointed the not so good judges in the High Court, Court of Appeal and the Federal Court, which explained why some people like Ezam, Anwar Ibrahim, Lim Guan Eng and many others to be sent to the prisons.</p>
<p>Of course these sacked judges after having suffered 20 years in disgrace deserved more than the ex gratia. </p>
<p>What is worrying the people is that the payment of ex gratia did not amount to an apology to these honourable men. But in the layman term, this constitutes an apology. Of course people like Najib and for that matter Mathair, which was the root cause to these problems, would continued to echo the sentiment that the ex gratia is not an apology. These are the people who never learned from mistakes and are too proud to admit (their) mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
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		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 18:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ooops it is important to the BN government...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooops it is important to the BN government&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/19/goodwill-ex-gratia-payments-to-anwar-guan-eng-syed-ahmad-idid-and-operation-lalang-isa-detainees/comment-page-1/#comment-99076</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 18:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is important that the ex gratia payment does not amount to a public admission of a wrongdoing because of its legal ramifications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is important that the ex gratia payment does not amount to a public admission of a wrongdoing because of its legal ramifications.</p>
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		<title>By: miwaki</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/19/goodwill-ex-gratia-payments-to-anwar-guan-eng-syed-ahmad-idid-and-operation-lalang-isa-detainees/comment-page-1/#comment-99052</link>
		<dc:creator>miwaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because of the mistake committed by the government,we the clean and poor rakyat have to foot the bills.This is most ridiculous !Pakatan Rakyat&#039;s MPs should bring this matter up and insist those responsible to share the cost as well.After all,he is rich and alive !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because of the mistake committed by the government,we the clean and poor rakyat have to foot the bills.This is most ridiculous !Pakatan Rakyat&#8217;s MPs should bring this matter up and insist those responsible to share the cost as well.After all,he is rich and alive !</p>
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		<title>By: pathfinder</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/19/goodwill-ex-gratia-payments-to-anwar-guan-eng-syed-ahmad-idid-and-operation-lalang-isa-detainees/comment-page-1/#comment-99047</link>
		<dc:creator>pathfinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 15:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come On man... Do Umno seriously think that what was wrong can be compensated with money? What an insult! I feel the insult. What about the Hindraf 5? It looks like that they are entitled to the compensation as well. Precedent has been set. By the way, the compensation are actually Rakyat&#039;s money. PM and Home Minister are repeating the same wrong doings. And we may have to pay for it in future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come On man&#8230; Do Umno seriously think that what was wrong can be compensated with money? What an insult! I feel the insult. What about the Hindraf 5? It looks like that they are entitled to the compensation as well. Precedent has been set. By the way, the compensation are actually Rakyat&#8217;s money. PM and Home Minister are repeating the same wrong doings. And we may have to pay for it in future.</p>
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		<title>By: alberttye</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/19/goodwill-ex-gratia-payments-to-anwar-guan-eng-syed-ahmad-idid-and-operation-lalang-isa-detainees/comment-page-1/#comment-99023</link>
		<dc:creator>alberttye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Najib said the payment is not equivalent to an apology had deminished the meaning and value of the compensation !

If it is not to be construed as a form of apology, what is it then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Najib said the payment is not equivalent to an apology had deminished the meaning and value of the compensation !</p>
<p>If it is not to be construed as a form of apology, what is it then?</p>
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		<title>By: allasstra</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/19/goodwill-ex-gratia-payments-to-anwar-guan-eng-syed-ahmad-idid-and-operation-lalang-isa-detainees/comment-page-1/#comment-99008</link>
		<dc:creator>allasstra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great men does not accept compensation for a wrong doing, instead they demand an apology...

in some way,accepting a compensation could be seen as spineless...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great men does not accept compensation for a wrong doing, instead they demand an apology&#8230;</p>
<p>in some way,accepting a compensation could be seen as spineless&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sheriff singh</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/19/goodwill-ex-gratia-payments-to-anwar-guan-eng-syed-ahmad-idid-and-operation-lalang-isa-detainees/comment-page-1/#comment-99006</link>
		<dc:creator>sheriff singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we should ask for the setting up of an Awards Commission to vet candidates for awards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we should ask for the setting up of an Awards Commission to vet candidates for awards.</p>
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