Comments on: Fate of 200 doctors from unscheduled universities http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/ for Malaysia Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:00:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: riha http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/#comment-99239 riha Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:36:16 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/#comment-99239 if you feel that the system in Malaysia has marginalized the "qualified" doctors from Unrecognized universites,those affected should seek options elsewhere.After all countries like the US and Australia do not practice discrimination.And if you are as qualified as you claim to be ,passing the USMLE,or AMC exams should not be a problem.And after all a better future awaits you and your family.Why hang around and whine in this country hoping for the chance to practice?The goverment certainly has to practice some form of quality control when it comes to employing doctors.And also keep in mind that you went to those unrecognized universities despite knowing that it was unrecognized in the first place. gov is not obligated to accomodate such people who took the risk.All form of risk taking have consequences right? Malaysia is one of the few countries which recognizes a huge number of foreign medical schools.Malaysia will be flooded with doctors in a year.We should take cue from other coutries like canada.With a population of about 33 million,they only recognize doctors that are trained in canada's 16 medical schools.Due to the keen competition ,there are many canadians who opt to go to med schools in Ireland,West indies,Australia etc but they have pass very rigorous testing before being allowed to join any residency programme in canada.Although facing an acute shortage of Doctors,they have opted for a more conservative method to handle the problem which is probably ideal because they do not want the quality of healthcare to be compromised.For your information,there are many" qualified" doctors from India/pakistan/other countries who are Canadian PR's or citizens but are not allowed to practice medicine in canada and they are driving cabs/busses etc instead to earn a living. if you feel that the system in Malaysia has marginalized the “qualified” doctors from Unrecognized universites,those affected should seek options elsewhere.After all countries like the US and Australia do not practice discrimination.And if you are as qualified as you claim to be ,passing the USMLE,or AMC exams should not be a problem.And after all a better future awaits you and your family.Why hang around and whine in this country hoping for the chance to practice?The goverment certainly has to practice some form of quality control when it comes to employing doctors.And also keep in mind that you went to those unrecognized universities despite knowing that it was unrecognized in the first place. gov is not obligated to accomodate such people who took the risk.All form of risk taking have consequences right?
Malaysia is one of the few countries which recognizes a huge number of foreign medical schools.Malaysia will be flooded with doctors in a year.We should take cue from other coutries like canada.With a population of about 33 million,they only recognize doctors that are trained in canada’s 16 medical schools.Due to the keen competition ,there are many canadians who opt to go to med schools in Ireland,West indies,Australia etc but they have pass very rigorous testing before being allowed to join any residency programme in canada.Although facing an acute shortage of Doctors,they have opted for a more conservative method to handle the problem which is probably ideal because they do not want the quality of healthcare to be compromised.For your information,there are many” qualified” doctors from India/pakistan/other countries who are Canadian PR’s or citizens but are not allowed to practice medicine in canada and they are driving cabs/busses etc instead to earn a living.

]]> By: lopez http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/#comment-99214 lopez Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:51:58 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/#comment-99214 if you are one of those who were picked up and offered to take up medicine by gomen system, serve you right , it is better you change job before you prematurely involve yourself to cause some one else life and their family misery. On the other hand, if you are truly qualified and having right aptitudes and in sound mind, there is no reason that you cannot get employed because your prospective employer would mostly likely be doctors themselves with exception at gomen hospitals where those were headed by people similar like yourself , picked and placed by those in the Bee end gomen. It is a denial state , I have to live with it since 1970, incidentally those who sits in those big rooms at big gomen buildings are the products of those 50 years of denial and a result of their "corrective action " made by those same type of nkp who placed all those worms into cans for 50 years , ,,please don't dust the carpet.....you may not like what you find. if you are one of those who were picked up and offered to take up medicine by gomen system, serve you right , it is better you change job before you prematurely involve yourself to cause some one else life and their family misery.

On the other hand, if you are truly qualified and having right aptitudes and in sound mind, there is no reason that you cannot get employed because your prospective employer would mostly likely be doctors themselves with exception at gomen hospitals where those were headed by people similar like yourself , picked and placed by those in the Bee end gomen.

It is a denial state , I have to live with it since 1970, incidentally those who sits in those big rooms at big gomen buildings are the products of those 50 years of denial and a result of their “corrective action ” made by those same type of nkp who placed all those worms into cans for 50 years , ,,please don’t dust the carpet…..you may not like what you find.

]]> By: private_undergrad http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/#comment-98947 private_undergrad Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:22:35 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/#comment-98947 I think these 'unrecognised' doctors should be tested ASAP for their clinical competency and then absorbed into the healthcare system in the rural areas in the country especially in Sabah and Sarawak. Pay them commensurate compensations and salaries as an incentive for them to serve the public. We are in dire need of more doctors, GPs and specialists alike. Waste no human resources and capital please. Their medical knowledge is invaluable to us ordinary Malaysians. I think these ‘unrecognised’ doctors should be tested ASAP for their clinical competency and then absorbed into the healthcare system in the rural areas in the country especially in Sabah and Sarawak. Pay them commensurate compensations and salaries as an incentive for them to serve the public.
We are in dire need of more doctors, GPs and specialists alike. Waste no human resources and capital please. Their medical knowledge is invaluable to us ordinary Malaysians.

]]> By: boobear http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/#comment-98894 boobear Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:19:27 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/#comment-98894 He plays nick nack on my...THUMB. With a nick nack paddy wack, give your dog a bone... and THIS BOOBEAR comes in to talk... Sorry to hear of the ordeal you went through, seage... At least you managed to get the 2nd opinion to over-ride the missdiagnosis. But that's the point, the doctor who scr**ed up at HTAA, Kuantan was a "qualified" doctor, from a "recognized" uni. We are talking of docs from "unrecognized" unis who may be "qualified" but can also be equally "competent or incompetent" as the "recognized" unis. I'm sure we all have our horror stories to tell, regarding encounters with inept doctors. As one puts it, maybe its time to trim the fat. Well, frankly this can only happen if the Federal Govt is also under PRakyat, then YB LKS can input on selection of Doctors in hospitals, why even the selection of medical students itself. Yet, doctors trained overseas is beyond the jurisdiction of the MOE. That's where the "future" MOH under PRakyat can be an eagle eye on standards maintained abroad. As for the present predicament ??? Why do students fail 3X ?? That might be explainable if we graduate as an engineer in 1992 and have to wait till 1998 to sit for your FINAL EXAM. And that too without exposure to the local lecturers who are setting the EXAM. In between you will be out of touch, changing diapers at home, bringing kids to school each day... till you really have lost touch with what you studied in your undergrad days. On the other hand, you do have the "rich" kids who have "rich" parents (who pawn their houses) to send their kids abroad to gain a professional degree. But on returning, the kid really has no interest in his field... Ai, yai, yai. There really is NO WIN-WIN SITUATION... At last info, only a "SMALL" fraction of the 450 took up this offer. Will it work? It's NOW or NEVER... COME HOLD ME TIGHT... and think hard about it... It's not just your own future but the future of the patients you treat next time... He plays nick nack on my…THUMB. With a nick nack paddy wack, give your dog a bone… and THIS BOOBEAR comes in to talk…

Sorry to hear of the ordeal you went through, seage… At least you managed to get the 2nd opinion to over-ride the missdiagnosis.

But that’s the point, the doctor who scr**ed up at HTAA, Kuantan was a “qualified” doctor, from a “recognized” uni. We are talking of docs from “unrecognized” unis who may be “qualified” but can also be equally “competent or incompetent” as the “recognized” unis.

I’m sure we all have our horror stories to tell, regarding encounters with inept doctors. As one puts it, maybe its time to trim the fat. Well, frankly this can only happen if the Federal Govt is also under PRakyat, then YB LKS can input on selection of Doctors in hospitals, why even the selection of medical students itself.

Yet, doctors trained overseas is beyond the jurisdiction of the MOE. That’s where the “future” MOH under PRakyat can be an eagle eye on standards maintained abroad.

As for the present predicament ??? Why do students fail 3X ?? That might be explainable if we graduate as an engineer in 1992 and have to wait till 1998 to sit for your FINAL EXAM. And that too without exposure to the local lecturers who are setting the EXAM. In between you will be out of touch, changing diapers at home, bringing kids to school each day… till you really have lost touch with what you studied in your undergrad days.

On the other hand, you do have the “rich” kids who have “rich” parents (who pawn their houses) to send their kids abroad to gain a professional degree. But on returning, the kid really has no interest in his field…

Ai, yai, yai. There really is NO WIN-WIN SITUATION… At last info, only a “SMALL” fraction of the 450 took up this offer. Will it work? It’s NOW or NEVER… COME HOLD ME TIGHT… and think hard about it… It’s not just your own future but the future of the patients you treat next time…

]]> By: seage http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/#comment-98830 seage Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:18:55 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/#comment-98830 This old man, he plays one... he plays knick knack on my bun! This old man, he plays one… he plays knick knack on my bun!

]]> By: seage http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/#comment-98750 seage Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:55:07 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/#comment-98750 seage Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. April 16th, 2008 (2 days ago) at 09: 14.06 seage Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.

April 16th, 2008 (2 days ago) at 09: 14.06

]]> By: seage http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/#comment-98744 seage Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:33:17 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/#comment-98744 are you there mr moderator?? are you there mr moderator??

]]> By: seage http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/#comment-98743 seage Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:32:54 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/#comment-98743 Moderator is sleeping Moderator is sleeping

]]> By: seage http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/#comment-98605 seage Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:21:37 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/04/15/fate-of-200-doctors-from-unscheduled-universities/#comment-98605 Moderator too lazy to read my posting? awaiting moderation since yesterday morning. Moderator too lazy to read my posting? awaiting moderation since yesterday morning.

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