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	<title>Comments on: Islamic state - MCA/Gerakan should stop hypocrisy and double standards</title>
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		<title>By: tangwengheng</title>
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		<dc:creator>tangwengheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://tangwengheng.blogspot.com/

Is man zheng (literal translation for the people's party in Cantonese) turning into mun zheng (mosquito party)?


Gerakan has been losing its sense of direction. Despite claiming to be a Chinese-based multi-racial party within BN, it has lost significant support among the Chinese community due to the perceived frequent kow-tow to UMNO. 


Its standing among the Indian community is even worse. Lack of Indian representation in its party leadership, its pre-March 8 silence on issues concerning Indian community (including HINDRAF) and failure to field any Indian candidate in the recent general election count among the reasons.


Ironically, DAP, used to be seen as an opposition Chinese-based party known for championing communal cause, now has the most number of elected representatives from the Indian community. In fact, it has the first Deputy Chief Minister and State Assembly Speaker from that community.


Gerakan has been wiped out from its power base in the Penang state following the March 8 political tsunami. Without any elected representative in Parliament/State Assembly from the state, it does not even get a seat on the opposition bench in the assembly hall. 


Without any platform to work on, the party will spend the next few years in political wilderness. Gerakan's absence in the Cabinet (essentially the main decision-making body in the country) only makes it worse.
The fact that some of its members resorted to putting up road signs in Chinese language to garner publicity is a reflection of their desperation.


Deeply wounded from its miscalcualted 'marriage' with PAS in 1999 and failure of a quick rebound in 2004 due to the initial popularity of PM Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, who had just entered the office, DAP has successfully re-engineered itself as a party that promotes competency, accountability and transparency for Malaysians. And the party was duly rewarded with its greatest ever electoral success in the history on March 8, 2008.


Gerakan now faces similar challenges or risks sinking into oblivion.</description>
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<p>Is man zheng (literal translation for the people&#8217;s party in Cantonese) turning into mun zheng (mosquito party)?</p>
<p>Gerakan has been losing its sense of direction. Despite claiming to be a Chinese-based multi-racial party within BN, it has lost significant support among the Chinese community due to the perceived frequent kow-tow to UMNO. </p>
<p>Its standing among the Indian community is even worse. Lack of Indian representation in its party leadership, its pre-March 8 silence on issues concerning Indian community (including HINDRAF) and failure to field any Indian candidate in the recent general election count among the reasons.</p>
<p>Ironically, DAP, used to be seen as an opposition Chinese-based party known for championing communal cause, now has the most number of elected representatives from the Indian community. In fact, it has the first Deputy Chief Minister and State Assembly Speaker from that community.</p>
<p>Gerakan has been wiped out from its power base in the Penang state following the March 8 political tsunami. Without any elected representative in Parliament/State Assembly from the state, it does not even get a seat on the opposition bench in the assembly hall. </p>
<p>Without any platform to work on, the party will spend the next few years in political wilderness. Gerakan&#8217;s absence in the Cabinet (essentially the main decision-making body in the country) only makes it worse.<br />
The fact that some of its members resorted to putting up road signs in Chinese language to garner publicity is a reflection of their desperation.</p>
<p>Deeply wounded from its miscalcualted &#8216;marriage&#8217; with PAS in 1999 and failure of a quick rebound in 2004 due to the initial popularity of PM Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, who had just entered the office, DAP has successfully re-engineered itself as a party that promotes competency, accountability and transparency for Malaysians. And the party was duly rewarded with its greatest ever electoral success in the history on March 8, 2008.</p>
<p>Gerakan now faces similar challenges or risks sinking into oblivion.</p>
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		<title>By: i_love_malaysia</title>
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		<dc:creator>i_love_malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lakilompat,

"Religions can be artificially manipulated to advantage the governing body." - well said. So, it does not matter what religion the governing body is i.e. Islam, Christianity etc. and they subject to the same. Just look back the human history and you will see it clearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lakilompat,</p>
<p>&#8220;Religions can be artificially manipulated to advantage the governing body.&#8221; - well said. So, it does not matter what religion the governing body is i.e. Islam, Christianity etc. and they subject to the same. Just look back the human history and you will see it clearly.</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
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		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religions can be artificially manipulated to advantage the governing body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religions can be artificially manipulated to advantage the governing body.</p>
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		<title>By: znita07</title>
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		<dc:creator>znita07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lopez Says: 
A nation is about people, standing firmly on the ground not floating in a bunch of clouds,…dreaming away…what if and all….dream on.

You are right !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lopez Says:<br />
A nation is about people, standing firmly on the ground not floating in a bunch of clouds,…dreaming away…what if and all….dream on.</p>
<p>You are right !</p>
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		<title>By: lopez</title>
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		<dc:creator>lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people like to do it from the top, some preferred to be lying down yet some like to do it by them self, yet some even bizarre ones do it any which way in consensus with each other.

Religion is yesterday's world of today's psychiatry, 
some of us are still living in the yesterday's world. There is no psychiatrist in yesterday world....religion takes the influence.

Wake up, there is no such thing as religious nations, behind the veil is a bunch of nut case overpowering your little brains.

you pray every damn second, cleanse yourself with whatever..you still die and decay into mother earth while being cheated by those who advocate you did wrong and must do right.

HECK i forgot ,,what about the soul where does it go...will it die ...nobody knows still ...only guess work and imaginations of man mind.

A nation is about people, standing firmly on the ground not floating in a bunch of clouds,...dreaming away...what if and all....dream on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people like to do it from the top, some preferred to be lying down yet some like to do it by them self, yet some even bizarre ones do it any which way in consensus with each other.</p>
<p>Religion is yesterday&#8217;s world of today&#8217;s psychiatry,<br />
some of us are still living in the yesterday&#8217;s world. There is no psychiatrist in yesterday world&#8230;.religion takes the influence.</p>
<p>Wake up, there is no such thing as religious nations, behind the veil is a bunch of nut case overpowering your little brains.</p>
<p>you pray every damn second, cleanse yourself with whatever..you still die and decay into mother earth while being cheated by those who advocate you did wrong and must do right.</p>
<p>HECK i forgot ,,what about the soul where does it go&#8230;will it die &#8230;nobody knows still &#8230;only guess work and imaginations of man mind.</p>
<p>A nation is about people, standing firmly on the ground not floating in a bunch of clouds,&#8230;dreaming away&#8230;what if and all&#8230;.dream on.</p>
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		<title>By: Loh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If UMNO is made the only opposition party, with all the others forming the next government, it would be interesting to see whether UMNO would chose to compaign for Islamic state, or Malaysian Malaysia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If UMNO is made the only opposition party, with all the others forming the next government, it would be interesting to see whether UMNO would chose to compaign for Islamic state, or Malaysian Malaysia.</p>
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		<title>By: znita07</title>
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		<dc:creator>znita07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JDoe Says: 

Today at 08: 37.24 (7 hours ago) 
znita07, gua tabik sama lu… probably you are one in a million malay muslim women, with a very different and interesting perspective! unfortunately, not many of them share your views.



I am not a woman. 
My nick is just a nick but I am a man.</description>
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<p>Today at 08: 37.24 (7 hours ago)<br />
znita07, gua tabik sama lu… probably you are one in a million malay muslim women, with a very different and interesting perspective! unfortunately, not many of them share your views.</p>
<p>I am not a woman.<br />
My nick is just a nick but I am a man.</p>
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		<title>By: i_love_malaysia</title>
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		<dc:creator>i_love_malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sit back and relax, see and enjoy the creation of God and think of His goodness!!! we are living on a lonely planet all by ourselves!!! may be 6 billion of us here and we are fighting for our right instead of working together to reach the universe and make them ours!!! 

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap080417.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sit back and relax, see and enjoy the creation of God and think of His goodness!!! we are living on a lonely planet all by ourselves!!! may be 6 billion of us here and we are fighting for our right instead of working together to reach the universe and make them ours!!! </p>
<p><a href="http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap080417.html" rel="nofollow">http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap080417.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: i_love_malaysia</title>
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		<dc:creator>i_love_malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a thinking out of the box solution to propose, so that Malaysia will be free from the problems of race, religion etc but it wont be free from other types of problems, but be sure of very minimum problems on race and religion and no one will be playing the race and religion games in politics :-

1. Whole Malaysia will be subdivided into certain no. of independent states according to the majority of the people of the same race or religion of the particular location. The minority will be given the option to move to the state where they are the majority there. 

2. Why force ourselves to live with people of different thinking etc. and wasted all the energy in solving race &#38; religion issues instead of building the country up!!!

3. Look at Singapore, it is much better off after gaining independent (even though that was not what they wanted in the first place) than remains in Malaysia and may end up worst than Penang if continued to be in Malaysia until today!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a thinking out of the box solution to propose, so that Malaysia will be free from the problems of race, religion etc but it wont be free from other types of problems, but be sure of very minimum problems on race and religion and no one will be playing the race and religion games in politics :-</p>
<p>1. Whole Malaysia will be subdivided into certain no. of independent states according to the majority of the people of the same race or religion of the particular location. The minority will be given the option to move to the state where they are the majority there. </p>
<p>2. Why force ourselves to live with people of different thinking etc. and wasted all the energy in solving race &amp; religion issues instead of building the country up!!!</p>
<p>3. Look at Singapore, it is much better off after gaining independent (even though that was not what they wanted in the first place) than remains in Malaysia and may end up worst than Penang if continued to be in Malaysia until today!!!</p>
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