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	<title>Comments on: RM4.6 billion PKFZ scandal - third Transport Minister to be marred and tarred?</title>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
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		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"When you need 4 or is it 5 credible WITNESS to prosecute the rapist/s, the victim will only be victimised (even worse if shes impregnanted thru it). When you cant’ prosecute, will it be reduced?"

Is Hudud Law encouraging gang activity? question to Nik Aziz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When you need 4 or is it 5 credible WITNESS to prosecute the rapist/s, the victim will only be victimised (even worse if shes impregnanted thru it). When you cant’ prosecute, will it be reduced?&#8221;</p>
<p>Is Hudud Law encouraging gang activity? question to Nik Aziz.</p>
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		<title>By: catharsis</title>
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		<dc:creator>catharsis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.....................................I hope Ong’s uncharacteristic response was not because he had been told to “shut up” whether at Wednesday’s Cabinet meeting or elsewhere ................................

IT MAY WELL BE HE HAS LOST HIS TONGUE OR CENSURED BY UP ABOVE

ANYWAY, THIS ISSUE COULD BE DEBATED ON WHEN THE PARLIAMENT OPENS- OPPOSITION HAS THE NUMBERS NOW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.I hope Ong’s uncharacteristic response was not because he had been told to “shut up” whether at Wednesday’s Cabinet meeting or elsewhere &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>IT MAY WELL BE HE HAS LOST HIS TONGUE OR CENSURED BY UP ABOVE</p>
<p>ANYWAY, THIS ISSUE COULD BE DEBATED ON WHEN THE PARLIAMENT OPENS- OPPOSITION HAS THE NUMBERS NOW</p>
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		<title>By: octo61</title>
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		<dc:creator>octo61</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lakilompat Says: 

Yesterday at 08: 28.30 
To octo61,

Don’t be scared of the hudud law! They should do a survey whether the Malay are ready to be converted “full Islam” This will reduce the gang rape, and rape cases.

Sorry lakilompat.. can't buy your dig on this.. "This will reduce the gang rape, and rape cases".. When you need 4 or is it 5 credible WITNESS to prosecute the rapist/s, the victim will only be victimised (even worse if shes impregnanted thru it). When you cant' prosecute, will it be reduced?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lakilompat Says: </p>
<p>Yesterday at 08: 28.30<br />
To octo61,</p>
<p>Don’t be scared of the hudud law! They should do a survey whether the Malay are ready to be converted “full Islam” This will reduce the gang rape, and rape cases.</p>
<p>Sorry lakilompat.. can&#8217;t buy your dig on this.. &#8220;This will reduce the gang rape, and rape cases&#8221;.. When you need 4 or is it 5 credible WITNESS to prosecute the rapist/s, the victim will only be victimised (even worse if shes impregnanted thru it). When you cant&#8217; prosecute, will it be reduced?</p>
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		<title>By: ENDANGERED HORNBILL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ENDANGERED HORNBILL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, just a very quick rejoinder.

Mukhriz says, "Mahathir Incomparable." Well, most sons would defend their fathers when no one else would. So, Mukhriz, keep it up. My advice to Ong Tee Keat still stands, if you know what I mean. Don't go down Mahathir's path when everything else, including his credibility has to be defended by his son when no one else would.


JITRA, April 12 (Bernama) -- Although retired and not directly involved in the country's administration, former Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad is still highly respected and his credibility, incomparable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, just a very quick rejoinder.</p>
<p>Mukhriz says, &#8220;Mahathir Incomparable.&#8221; Well, most sons would defend their fathers when no one else would. So, Mukhriz, keep it up. My advice to Ong Tee Keat still stands, if you know what I mean. Don&#8217;t go down Mahathir&#8217;s path when everything else, including his credibility has to be defended by his son when no one else would.</p>
<p>JITRA, April 12 (Bernama) &#8212; Although retired and not directly involved in the country&#8217;s administration, former Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad is still highly respected and his credibility, incomparable.</p>
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		<title>By: ENDANGERED HORNBILL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ENDANGERED HORNBILL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Want some advice, YB Ong Tee Keat? You should just come clean and spill the beans.

Integrity will carry you further than all the cover-ups and blustering would ever achieve.

Remember, political lives are short but people's memories of the deeds and misdeeds of politicians are long. IN the good ol' Chinese traditions, why soil a good reputation for generations! Why? It just isn't simply worth it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want some advice, YB Ong Tee Keat? You should just come clean and spill the beans.</p>
<p>Integrity will carry you further than all the cover-ups and blustering would ever achieve.</p>
<p>Remember, political lives are short but people&#8217;s memories of the deeds and misdeeds of politicians are long. IN the good ol&#8217; Chinese traditions, why soil a good reputation for generations! Why? It just isn&#8217;t simply worth it all.</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
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		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The recent KLIA shooting and robbing is a planned properly by syndicate inside KLIA. 

1st they knew OTK will said it is at public area hence KLIA is not responsible, there is no breach of KLIA security

2nd the CCTV (cost millionth) are down, this is acceptable everytime during critical moment.

3rd the 9 victims did not die, but apparently just injured, so the mastermind wanted to make the deal but don't wanted to tarnish Malaysia KLIA police images.

4th How the hell these robbers know the time when few millionth of notes are transferred out from KLIA

5th What is the 2 security guards doing escorting the money.

The govt. + criminals will cover this so called high profile case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The recent KLIA shooting and robbing is a planned properly by syndicate inside KLIA. </p>
<p>1st they knew OTK will said it is at public area hence KLIA is not responsible, there is no breach of KLIA security</p>
<p>2nd the CCTV (cost millionth) are down, this is acceptable everytime during critical moment.</p>
<p>3rd the 9 victims did not die, but apparently just injured, so the mastermind wanted to make the deal but don&#8217;t wanted to tarnish Malaysia KLIA police images.</p>
<p>4th How the hell these robbers know the time when few millionth of notes are transferred out from KLIA</p>
<p>5th What is the 2 security guards doing escorting the money.</p>
<p>The govt. + criminals will cover this so called high profile case.</p>
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		<title>By: alamakkkk</title>
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		<dc:creator>alamakkkk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have voted for DAP in my area, since the beginning of time I always voted for BN not because of anything, but because for me it doesn't make any different. Any MP will just do, because they never bother to help the rakyat anyway.

This time around I still voted for DAP, against the trend. I didn't know the guy I voted for. Doesn't make any different to me as usual.

Am I in for a big surprised this morning, while having roti chanai breakfast a man sat next to me extend his greetings and introduced himself as Lim Lip Eng.

His name didn't ring a bell. After that several people came and greeted him as the MP of Segambut. A few groups came and joined him. One from PAS with the Pak Haji and all, one from PKR with the big bikes and few from DAP.

They were having a press conference in roti chanai stall. Few press photographer were there and they posed for few photos.

Things started to go on high gear when they discussed few outstanding issued just like in a Parliment (minus the profanities).

This is something new, an actual MP actually doing real work for the rakyat. This is the MP that I will vote again.

I just imagined if I have voted for BN, I'll never shook hands with the MP without the Kompang or TV cameras. You'll get my vote again Sir in the next general election.

p.s - Mr Lim should pass around his card with his blog address so it will be easier to contact him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have voted for DAP in my area, since the beginning of time I always voted for BN not because of anything, but because for me it doesn&#8217;t make any different. Any MP will just do, because they never bother to help the rakyat anyway.</p>
<p>This time around I still voted for DAP, against the trend. I didn&#8217;t know the guy I voted for. Doesn&#8217;t make any different to me as usual.</p>
<p>Am I in for a big surprised this morning, while having roti chanai breakfast a man sat next to me extend his greetings and introduced himself as Lim Lip Eng.</p>
<p>His name didn&#8217;t ring a bell. After that several people came and greeted him as the MP of Segambut. A few groups came and joined him. One from PAS with the Pak Haji and all, one from PKR with the big bikes and few from DAP.</p>
<p>They were having a press conference in roti chanai stall. Few press photographer were there and they posed for few photos.</p>
<p>Things started to go on high gear when they discussed few outstanding issued just like in a Parliment (minus the profanities).</p>
<p>This is something new, an actual MP actually doing real work for the rakyat. This is the MP that I will vote again.</p>
<p>I just imagined if I have voted for BN, I&#8217;ll never shook hands with the MP without the Kompang or TV cameras. You&#8217;ll get my vote again Sir in the next general election.</p>
<p>p.s - Mr Lim should pass around his card with his blog address so it will be easier to contact him.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good piece of article on Malaysiakini:-


Who's worse: Dr M or Pak Lah? 
Ong Kian Ming and Oon Yeoh &#124; Apr 12, 08 11:09am 

Currently there is much heated debate over whether Dr Mahathir Mohamad or Abdullah Ahmad Badawi is more to blame for the various woes that afflict the country.

Our perspective is that Dr M's misdeeds were sins of "commission" while Pak Lah's were that of "omission". The former caused much institutional damage but the latter failed to fix the mess he inherited although he was given a huge mandate to do so.

Many people recall, perhaps with some fondness, the rapid economic development that occurred during Dr M's time as PM, especially in the early- to mid-1990s. However, the institutional damage which can be traced directly to Dr M far outweighs his many economic
accomplishments.

The systematic dismantling of a once fiercely-independent judiciary; the convenient acceptance of rampant corruption within Barisan Nasional in general and Umno in particular; the muzzling of mainstream newspapers, reducing them to little more than unofficial mouthpieces for the government; and the centralization of power in the PM's office. These are but a few examples of what Dr M was directly responsible for, the effects of which are still strongly felt today.

So, while it must be acknowledged that Dr M did some good things, there was simply too much bad thrown in with the good.

Dr M's attacks ring hollow 

Granted, Pak Lah had neither had the time and opportunity to inflict further damage on national institutions. Perhaps given time, he could have one day matched Dr M's ability to bend every major institution to his will. To Pak Lah's credit, he didn't try to do so in his first term – it could be argued he didn't do much of anything in his first term – certainly, not in the same manner as Dr M.

But Pak Lah came into office with a message of reform. He was the alternate "Reformasi" candidate who promised to eradicate corruption, to reform the civil service including making the police force more efficient and transparent, and to be an inclusive PM for all Malaysians. He achieved none of that and instead squandered the historic mandate given to him in the 2004 general election.

He allowed ethnic extremism to rear its ugly head within his own party, Umno. He tried to table a watered-down police oversight bill to Parliament. He launched his own version of mega-projects in the form of regional corridors. And, it was business as usual in Umno –
meaning patronage and money politics were the order of the day.

But as weak and ineffective as Pak Lah has been during these past four years – and still so, in many ways – the recent attacks by Dr M ring hollow once they are taken apart and examined.

While Dr M's stinging barbs are great fodder for bloggers and political pundits, they are examples of hypocrisy at its most audacious. Dr M conveniently forgets that it was he who instituted the quota system for Umno's internal elections and that no one was able to challenge him after Tengku Razaleigh's failed bid in 1988.

Dr M also forgets that the Cabinet was as pliant under his premiership as it is now and that he too was surrounded by yes-men who didn't dare contradict him. That is, after all, the culture of Umno – which he cultivated over two decades as its leader.

No credible suggestions

Even now as he calls for Pak Lah to resign, Dr M does not offer any credible suggestions on how to reform Umno or the BN in the face of the unprecedented losses suffered in the recent polls.

All he has to offer is unreserved, uninhibited, unconstructive criticism – good for media sound bites but useless when it comes to helping the party get out of the morass it's in.

Pak Lah might not last long enough to even make it to the Umno polls in December but he can at the very least be credited for gracefully accepting the will of the voters and not resorting to dirty tactics to "alter" the 2008 election results.

There was no trouble in the streets as many people had feared would emerge if BN were to ever lose its psychologically-critical two-thirds majority in Parliament. Can anyone seriously say with full conviction that this would have been the case if Dr M were the PM?

Those who are cheering on Dr M's assault on Pak Lah – and this includes a couple of the most well-known bloggers in this country – would do well to remember that the good ol' days of Dr M were actually not all that good.

It's not difficult to see where we stand on this debate. As disappointing as Pak Lah has been, Dr M is by far the worse of the two PMs.
 

Can the rakyat all stand up and tell this old man off? Accusing the opposition with his own conspiracy teory? In his dream!

PKFZ = Dr M + Ling Leong Sick + ... white elephant. 

Can these few scumbags explain to the rakyat what happened before they retirement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good piece of article on Malaysiakini:-</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s worse: Dr M or Pak Lah?<br />
Ong Kian Ming and Oon Yeoh | Apr 12, 08 11:09am </p>
<p>Currently there is much heated debate over whether Dr Mahathir Mohamad or Abdullah Ahmad Badawi is more to blame for the various woes that afflict the country.</p>
<p>Our perspective is that Dr M&#8217;s misdeeds were sins of &#8220;commission&#8221; while Pak Lah&#8217;s were that of &#8220;omission&#8221;. The former caused much institutional damage but the latter failed to fix the mess he inherited although he was given a huge mandate to do so.</p>
<p>Many people recall, perhaps with some fondness, the rapid economic development that occurred during Dr M&#8217;s time as PM, especially in the early- to mid-1990s. However, the institutional damage which can be traced directly to Dr M far outweighs his many economic<br />
accomplishments.</p>
<p>The systematic dismantling of a once fiercely-independent judiciary; the convenient acceptance of rampant corruption within Barisan Nasional in general and Umno in particular; the muzzling of mainstream newspapers, reducing them to little more than unofficial mouthpieces for the government; and the centralization of power in the PM&#8217;s office. These are but a few examples of what Dr M was directly responsible for, the effects of which are still strongly felt today.</p>
<p>So, while it must be acknowledged that Dr M did some good things, there was simply too much bad thrown in with the good.</p>
<p>Dr M&#8217;s attacks ring hollow </p>
<p>Granted, Pak Lah had neither had the time and opportunity to inflict further damage on national institutions. Perhaps given time, he could have one day matched Dr M&#8217;s ability to bend every major institution to his will. To Pak Lah&#8217;s credit, he didn&#8217;t try to do so in his first term – it could be argued he didn&#8217;t do much of anything in his first term – certainly, not in the same manner as Dr M.</p>
<p>But Pak Lah came into office with a message of reform. He was the alternate &#8220;Reformasi&#8221; candidate who promised to eradicate corruption, to reform the civil service including making the police force more efficient and transparent, and to be an inclusive PM for all Malaysians. He achieved none of that and instead squandered the historic mandate given to him in the 2004 general election.</p>
<p>He allowed ethnic extremism to rear its ugly head within his own party, Umno. He tried to table a watered-down police oversight bill to Parliament. He launched his own version of mega-projects in the form of regional corridors. And, it was business as usual in Umno –<br />
meaning patronage and money politics were the order of the day.</p>
<p>But as weak and ineffective as Pak Lah has been during these past four years – and still so, in many ways – the recent attacks by Dr M ring hollow once they are taken apart and examined.</p>
<p>While Dr M&#8217;s stinging barbs are great fodder for bloggers and political pundits, they are examples of hypocrisy at its most audacious. Dr M conveniently forgets that it was he who instituted the quota system for Umno&#8217;s internal elections and that no one was able to challenge him after Tengku Razaleigh&#8217;s failed bid in 1988.</p>
<p>Dr M also forgets that the Cabinet was as pliant under his premiership as it is now and that he too was surrounded by yes-men who didn&#8217;t dare contradict him. That is, after all, the culture of Umno – which he cultivated over two decades as its leader.</p>
<p>No credible suggestions</p>
<p>Even now as he calls for Pak Lah to resign, Dr M does not offer any credible suggestions on how to reform Umno or the BN in the face of the unprecedented losses suffered in the recent polls.</p>
<p>All he has to offer is unreserved, uninhibited, unconstructive criticism – good for media sound bites but useless when it comes to helping the party get out of the morass it&#8217;s in.</p>
<p>Pak Lah might not last long enough to even make it to the Umno polls in December but he can at the very least be credited for gracefully accepting the will of the voters and not resorting to dirty tactics to &#8220;alter&#8221; the 2008 election results.</p>
<p>There was no trouble in the streets as many people had feared would emerge if BN were to ever lose its psychologically-critical two-thirds majority in Parliament. Can anyone seriously say with full conviction that this would have been the case if Dr M were the PM?</p>
<p>Those who are cheering on Dr M&#8217;s assault on Pak Lah – and this includes a couple of the most well-known bloggers in this country – would do well to remember that the good ol&#8217; days of Dr M were actually not all that good.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not difficult to see where we stand on this debate. As disappointing as Pak Lah has been, Dr M is by far the worse of the two PMs.</p>
<p>Can the rakyat all stand up and tell this old man off? Accusing the opposition with his own conspiracy teory? In his dream!</p>
<p>PKFZ = Dr M + Ling Leong Sick + &#8230; white elephant. </p>
<p>Can these few scumbags explain to the rakyat what happened before they retirement?</p>
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		<title>By: cheng on soo</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheng on soo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone wan to charge "them", who is going to do the charging?
Some said: "UAE was a desert-like CITY w/o much natural resources", what a joke, everyone know that UAE is one of most {kaya} with big petrol reserve n production, don't mislead ppl lah!
Moreover UAE is (and was) not a CITY, it is a country with 7 component states lah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone wan to charge &#8220;them&#8221;, who is going to do the charging?<br />
Some said: &#8220;UAE was a desert-like CITY w/o much natural resources&#8221;, what a joke, everyone know that UAE is one of most {kaya} with big petrol reserve n production, don&#8217;t mislead ppl lah!<br />
Moreover UAE is (and was) not a CITY, it is a country with 7 component states lah!</p>
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