We all have to be very careful in what we say here, particularly on generalisations about religion. We don’t have to revisit issues that are already constitutionally enshrined like having a non-muslim as a PM. Hence the example of Teresa Kok as a possible PM should never have been brought up. If you say that the long term objective is to change the constitution to allow for a non-Muslim PM, then PAS can counter that they also have the right to fight for a change of the constitution to allow for an Islamic state.

The arguments about whether secular is better or Islamic is better should also be avoided. The country that is going to be a real superpower is China, and it is neither secular nor Islamic. And no track record of success in the past does not mean that there will be no success in the future.

I see that you have taken a principled stand - which is for the DAP to leave Pakatan. This principled stand is better than the hypocrisy proposed by certain people who wants to go on fighting to the end in public - but still remain within Pakatan, ostensibly to retain power.

Female need to cover themselves, soon non muslim as well.-another speculative lie, too many lieslah.

Read more books, read more news, look at other countries.

You are clearly uneducated, being an UMNO cybertrooper(or probably nuisance) trying to stir up things, hasty at giving opinions.

I wonder, does any of your thoughts go through your brain?

Ever heard of a cascade of events? Find out!

First its the special rights, then the NEP, then keris (shall be filled with non-muslim blood), then ketuanan Melayu, what’s next?

We come out with speculations (what if) because we don’t know what happens in the future.

Your mentality is clearly—> let it happen first before we act.

Take some time and read biographies of world leaders ok? You will perhaps learn more and be mature in your thoughts.

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(comment against perakman’s pervious comment)

Perakman said that if you convert to Islam, you must follow the teachings. (a comment against my previous comment)

What if the person is born a muslim but doesn’t have faith in Islam? What if the person marries a muslim and is FORCED to convert to Islam?
What if the person convert into Muslim but in the end realise that the teachings doesn’t suit him and did some soul searching and found that another religion is what he wants?

These are not mere speculations and there have been cases in Malaysia.

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Why not religious freedom? Since we are a multiracial country, why not a secular country?

Take your religion as a base to build up yourself to be a good leader.

I am sure, if this country is declared to be a chinese state (hypothetically) or indian state(hypothetically), the muslims will be enraged….am i right or wrong?

So stop being selfish, and accept equality to everyone.

Special rights? NEP? Ketuanan Melayu? Please take them away.

Meritocracy is the best way. It promotes competition. You can still be a rich and successful person if you work hard.

Don’t start giving excuses that only the strong and established corporates dominate the free market (PAK LAH, read this plz).

I know stories about ppl who has been sleeping in the streets becoming millionairex because they are hardworking, persistent, consistent and are brave in taking risk too. As usual, read more, PAK LAH!!!

This is my last comment here. I am lazy to argue with syncbasher83 and his fellow men. I say only once. If you decide to go around twisting my thoughts, go ahead. It would be like you trying to twist a simple verse from the holy books to suit your needs.

A simple statement sometimes got twisted beyond imagination. And that’s what syncbasher83 and his fellow men are here for.

Cheers to your efforts!

Today at 09: 44.57 (1 hour ago)
cto:

He’s consistent and he’s persistent alright. Consistent in his chauvinistic views and persistent enough to drive a number of fairminded people off this blog, including Undergrad2 and Blackeye.

As to your comment on Prophet Kickbutt, you ought to be careful. You are inviting another tirade from Mr Know-it-all.

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Yes, I ought to be careful cos’ I can see the adminstrator springing to action within 3 days. Prophet Kickbutt, do you have a better more accurate crystal ball? Pray tell us if you do.

Well, let’s take the G8: Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, UK, US.

All of them secular, all of them is the most developed nation in the world, in terms of economic strength, contributation to mankind in science and technology and in reality their policies have much impact in the world, including to Malaysia.

My challenge now to syncbasher, is to provide empirical proof of which Islamic State have that kind of influence in the world ??

Since there are so many accusation as to DAP right-wing, left-wing, center-wing, chauvinist, etc.

Let’s see, we can’t join PAS, except if we convert to Islam, we can merely join PAS supporter club…. that about sums it all what is wrong with PAS.

Tell me how PAS will react if one day, a Chinese or Indian, Christian , Buddhist or Hindu and God-forbid a Women, someone like Theresa Kok, single, Chinese, Christian is to become PM, will they be crying blood like what they call for with the Wilder Geert videos.
Yet, YB Theresa got the highest majority votes in all Malaysia,
that obviously is not enough mandate to overrule PAS’s mandate from God.

It is such a predictable response that I was wondering when PAS is going to make such comment couple days ago.
Does calling for death sentence on Wilder Geert going to resolve the rising Islamophobia around the world ? In fact, it will only continue to feed it.

Yet, if we continue to debate with them, inevitably they will pull out passages from Koran that justify the death sentence fatwa on Wilder. In which case, there is no need for any more discussion or rational deliberation.

PKR at least have moved away from race-based, religion-based and more in-line with DAP constitution. If that is chauvinistic, then you can accuse PKR of that too.

If push comes to shove, it is my personal opinion (as a Rakyat, a non-DAP member), that it is best DAP leave the Pakatan Rakyat and just work with PKR and leave PAS with their Islamic State agenda to their own device.

Don’t ever become like Gerakan (whose original ideology calls for Malaysian Malaysia), who joined BN and instead of transforming them, got “reinvented” to become a race-based party and reduced to be “running dogs” of UMNO.
Thus it is rightly so, that they got kicked out of Penang.

Well, PAS can claim they want to be the backbone of PR all they want, but they are still have the minority MPs in PR.

He’s consistent and he’s persistent alright. Consistent in his chauvinistic views and persistent enough to drive a number of fairminded people off this blog, including Undergrad2 and Blackeye.

As to your comment on Prophet Kickbutt, you ought to be careful. You are inviting another tirade from Mr Know-it-all.

Confrontational politics learnt from the days of the Opposition. At least be honourable if you want to play confrontational politics within your own coalition. Be honourable like Dawsheng and Lee Wang Yen who want the DAP to withdraw from states like Perak and Selangor rather than work with PAS. At least these rightists have principles. Mr Know-it-all wants the DAP to fight, to condemn, never to give an inch - and he also wants DAP to stay in the coalition.

Today at 08: 08.11 (1 hour ago)
Resorting to name-calling, making sweeping statements like “you don’t know what the heck you are talking about” - if this is the attitude of the DAP right wing fanatics, then I really feel sorry for you.

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You gotta admit that this fella is consistent though. I myself could have predicted the outcome without the help of Prophet Kickbutt.