One of the major breakthroughs of the March 8 political tsunami was the transformation of “Makkal Sakti” from a call for the end of the long-standing marginalization of the Malaysian Indians into a rallying and symbolic cry by all Malaysians to end all forms of marginalization against any Malaysian or group, regardless of race or religion.
It is distressing therefore that despite assurances by the Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi that he has heard the voice of Malaysians on March 8 for change, actions taken by the second Abdullah administration have proved otherwise – in particular the statement by the Home Minister, Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar refusing to release newly-elected Selangor DAP State Assemblyman for Kota Alam Shah and four other Hindraf leaders, P. Uthayakumar, V. Ganabatirau, R. Kenghadharan and T. Vasantha Kumar from Internal Security Act (ISA) detention.
A pressing agenda for 82 MPs and 196 State Assembly members from DAP, PKR and PAS in Malaysia is to work out a common strategy for the immediate and unconditional release of the five Hindraf leaders from ISA detention and to ensure that the second Abdullah government understand the meaning of “Makkal Sakti”.
(Speech at the DAP Bukit Glugor general election thanksgiving dinner to celebrate re-election victory of Karpal Singh as MP for Bukit Glugor at Long Say Building, Burmah Road, Penang on Saturday, 29th March 2008)

#1 by drmaharajahrk on Sunday, 30 March 2008 - 5:26 pm
he’s the first PM who lost his home state to the opposition.
tak de malu ka
#2 by yang tahan mati on Sunday, 30 March 2008 - 5:36 pm
Most probably Samy Vellu thinks that by shouting to call the release of the Hindraf -5, he will gain back the supports and respects from the populace of Malaysia at large. But it’s a bit too late right now, he should have done it before the election and immediately after the Hindraf-5 were arrested under ISA. Is this the first time Samy Vellu acts against Umno’s will?
#3 by HJ Angus on Sunday, 30 March 2008 - 5:38 pm
It is good that Samy Vellu has declared he will seek the release of the Hindraf 5. Let us not simply comdemn hin blindly – maybe he has learned his lesson?
http://malaysiawatch3.blogspot.com/2008/03/yes-most-malaysians-want-hindraf-5.html
#4 by drmaharajahrk on Sunday, 30 March 2008 - 5:51 pm
Samy asking why only one Indian rep in EXCO line up in opposition controlled states. He says opposition should give more seats for Indians. Does he realised in BN controlled states in the same ?
And worst still in Pahang, no Indian rep at all. They couldnt find one single Indian in the whole state of Pahang qualified to be an EXCO member ?
Better for Samy to question BN first as he is an insider rather than question the opposition where he has no influence at all
#5 by novice101 on Sunday, 30 March 2008 - 5:58 pm
The government says M. Manoharan is a security risk and poses a threat to the public, that should mean it has evidences which allowed them to come to this decision. Then, he should be charged in court and the proper sentence be meted out to him. If, he can’t be charged in court, then he should be immediately released.
Refusing to do so, is, showing disrespect to the rakyat and is disregarding its expressed wishes. It would also mean the government is paranoid !
The rakyat is now keeping tabs of the numbers of blunders committed by the BN government. It counts this as one.
#6 by justice4all on Sunday, 30 March 2008 - 6:53 pm
The govt is in a difficult position whether to release the Hindraf 5.
The general population expects them to be released. They do not believe the mainstream media propaganda nor the govt’s reason for detaining them.
If the govt releases them, these people will align themselves with BR and it is detrimental to the cause of the BN. If the govt does not, it will incur the wrath of the general populace. But this is not felt for the moment, except that this incident will be recalled in the run-up to the next GE. If the govt. does not play its cards right, BN might find itself to be in the Opposition in the next GE.
So why is Samy Vellu now wanting the release of the Hindraf 5, when earlier he has strongly castigated them? Is there a political motive behind this? Has he really learnt his lesson? Or will he be using this as a talking point against the Hindraf 5 in the future?
Whatever the case may be, I am one for their release as I do not in the first place believe that they are a security threat to this nation! They are definitely a ‘threat’ to the future of the BN, and UMNO knows it.
#7 by kickbutt on Sunday, 30 March 2008 - 7:16 pm
Does anybody here know how many detainees are there today, their names and the reasons why they were detained?? This list has not been updated! Some among these have since been released but I’m sure there are more than five detainees today.
Why is the DAP fighting only for the release of the five and not all??
http://www.aliran.com/oldsite/monthly/2001/3e.htm
#8 by kickbutt on Sunday, 30 March 2008 - 7:18 pm
My bad!! The list has been updated.
#9 by Tickler on Sunday, 30 March 2008 - 7:19 pm
If there is a shameless human being award to be presented,it should go to our infamous Indian Samy Vellu.Today he is asking that the 5 HINDRAF leaders be freed because he has had his ass burned by the biggest wild fire he has ever seen in the the name of “Makkal Sakthi”.His MIC has been so badly burned that almost all his top leaders lost their seats in the recent elections.
Samy threatened the Indians saying that they would not have anyone to represent the Indian community if MIC was not voted in.The Indians in returned showed him that they cannot be threatened by him nor were they bothered about MIC representing them as they saw it ,it didnt make a difference whether MIC was around or not.MIC had become irrelevant to the community.
Before today he condemned HINDRAF as troublemakers and actually pushed the Government to take action on the leaders and those that participated in the famous November 25th rally.There are numerous You Tube clips to prove this.
Today the snake is shedding its skin in order to please the Indian community and hoping to regain their support for his irrelevant MIC.He is claiming to reveal the truth that he has been helping those Hindraf supporters that were arrested and also trying to secure the release of Manoharan and Kenghadharan.
http://payumpullee.blogspot.com/
#10 by vehir on Sunday, 30 March 2008 - 7:29 pm
Extract from:http://malaysia-hariini.com/home/index.php/Wilayah-Persekutuan-Pembangkang-yang-kotor.html
Wilayah Persekutuan : Pembangkang yang kotor
Saturday, 29 March 2008
ADA sesuatu yang mungkin sedang dirancangkan oleh pakatan pembangkang untuk menjejaskan kesejahteraan warga kota serta pentadbiran Kementerian Wilayah Persekutuan dan juga Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumput malah penghantaran mesej mereka, tidak mahu tunduk kepada sebarang perbincangan yang bakal diatur oleh Menteri Wilayah Persekutuan membayangkan bahawa pakatan pembangkang ini berkumngkinan besar mahu mencetuskan suasana tidak aman, selamat serta makmur di Kuala Lumpur.
Pakatan pembangkang yang dilihat mula besar kepala kerana berjaya memenangi lebih daripada separuh kerusi parlimen dalam pilihanraya lalu dilihat lebih mementingkan kepentingan politik mereka daripada memastikan agenda pembangunan rakyat dan menjadikan banadaraya Kuala Lumpur sebagai kota contoh seluruh dunia.
Malah sudah ada antara mereka yang mempertikaikan kuasa dan wibawa, mempertikaikan demokrasi dan ketetapan malah mereka dengan angkuh dan sombong mahu kerajaan mengkaji semula tentang keperluan mengwujudkan Kementerian Wilayah Persekutuan, kononnya sebagai membazirkan sedang mereka sendiri sedar betapa perlunya kementerian ini wujud bagi menjamin hubungan antara pentadbir kerajaan tempatan dengan kerajaan persekutuan.
Pakatan pembangkang sebelum mencuba untuk merancang sesuatu bagi menguji kuasa mereka harus kembali melihat sejarah yang ditinggalkan pada tahun 1969.
Pemimpin politik yang bijak bukan sekadar tahu membaca tetapi mereka dituntut untuk menjadikan sejarah lepas sebagai guru ataupun pengalaman paling berharga dan tindakan mereka yang kononnya mahu memboikot kerajaan di Wilayah Persekutuan jelas mencerminkan bahawa mereka ini antara pemimpin yang buta tentang sejarah dan tidak menghormati kontrak bangsa yang dipersetujui.
Sekiranya mereka menyimpan beberapa niat yang memungkinkan akan wujud berbagai-bagai ketegangan, kita bimbang peristiwa lampau berulang kembali dan mengheret seluruh bangsa ke dalam kemelut yang mungkin bakala kehilangan banyak perkara
Selama ini mereka begitu lantang mengkritik kerajaan. Mereka begitu celupar memperkecilkan kredibiliti Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur tetapi apabila mereka diberikan peluang untuk diajak duduk semeja berbincang demi kepentingan rakyat terbanyak, mereka angkuh menujukkan kuasa, kononnya suara mereka lebih ramai dan tidak perlu mendengar pandangan suara yang lebih kecil bilangannya.
Mereka juga mengistiharkan sesama mereka bahawa pakatan pembangkang adalah parti yang memerintah Kuala Lumpur dan kerana terlalu gila mahu berkuasa, mereka lupa bahawa Kuala Lumpur ada peraturan ataupun disiplinnya tersendiri dan sikap mereka tidak menghormati Menteri Wilayah yang mengangkat sumpah di depan Yang Di Pertuan Agung juga membayangkan keangkuhan mereka untuk tidak menghormatai sesiapa sahaja termasuklah DYMM Yang Di Pertuan Agung.
Kelompok pembangkang ini meneruskan tradisi mereka. Tanpa mempedulikan kepentingan warga kota dan tuntutan kerja yang perlu disepakati selepas tempoh getir pilihanraya, mereka terus mempergunakan pendekatan maki hamun, memperlekehkan pegawai-pegawai kerajaan dan mengangap hanya mereka sahaja yang betul. Inilah sikap mereka. Memperalatkan undi rakyat untuk kepentingan mereka semata-mata dan kuasa yang mereka perolehi yang sepatutnya digunakan untuk sama-sama membangunkan ataupun mempercepatkan beberapa pelan pembangunan yang sudah sedia ada disalahgunakan.
Mereka sepatutnya berlapang dada, membuka ruang yang cukup terbuka untuk menghormati perancangan yang bakal diadakan oleh kerajaan dan kalau selama ini mereka dipinggirkan daripada memberikan cadangan namun kesediaan Menteri Wilayah Persekutuan menghulurkan tangan untuk berbincang seharusnya disifatkan oleh mereka sebagai langkah terpuji.
Mereka tidak seharusnya meniup api dari dalam kalau mereka meletakkan kepentingan rakyat di tempat pertama dan kita bimbang kalau api yang mereka tiupkan boleh membakar kepada sesuatu yang mereka sendiri tidak mungkin jangkakan.
Dalam meraikan kemenangan mereka dengan menunjukkan kesombongan dan keangkuhan, mereka jangan lupa apa yang mereka perolehi hari ini adalah sesuatu yang bersifat sementara sekiranya mereka memilih
#11 by penang308 on Sunday, 30 March 2008 - 8:28 pm
Hey guys, I just want to know did the 22 “BIADAP” in Trengganu attended the swearing in today?
Did they apologize to the Sultan?
Did they tender their resignation since Idris did not get the MB post?
Sorry, I know this is off topic, just for my information only.
#12 by chiakchua on Sunday, 30 March 2008 - 8:51 pm
As a 55 year old non-partisan Malaysian, I wish to appeal to the PM to release the Hindraf 5. The PM had agreed that the BN may not have done enough for the Indian, that’s why BN had lost the support of the Indian during the last GE. Hindraf had just wanted to convey that message; they had wanted to tell the national leaders of the grouses of the Indian society but they were declined or ignored. They had no choice but finally took to the street peacefully but things turned chaotic beyond their control.
Dear PM, their grouses are genuine, please, I beg you to release them. The world, our fellow non-Malays and some Malays are watching what you will be doing after you had repeatedly said you have heard after the GE. Please show with your deed, not just talk.
If you consider the way the demonstrators in front of KOMTAR after the GE had behaved, the more the Hindraf 5 shall be released immediately. Aren’t you the PM of all Malaysian? Please release them, at least for the sake of their family members!
#13 by ahluck on Sunday, 30 March 2008 - 9:32 pm
he guys! go to this site and ask Pak Lah to release the 5 Hindaf unconditionaly. Pak lah will get Pahala
http://www.warkahuntukpm.com.my/english.php
#14 by k1980 on Sunday, 30 March 2008 - 9:45 pm
Pak Lah says Hindraf 5 are very lucky to get free rice
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/CB6E8E48-C288-4066-90B8-8F23DFDCDFEE.htm
#15 by lakilompat on Sunday, 30 March 2008 - 10:19 pm
Pak Lah jus 4 yrs and 3 mths in control compare to Tun Dr. Mahathir 22 yrs of regime. There are ppl oppose to Tun Dr. Mahathir too at that times, his last term as prime minister saw Kelantan and Terengganu under PAS. Though he managed to maintained 2/3 majority but you see as country become more advance in term of technology & communications, things will change fast. People no longer rely on news on tv and newspaper. Pak Lah is jus a simple old man to allow transparency on the other hand those cronies who scared will put up advertisement in newspapers to intimidate voters to vote for the right leader. I’m not sure whether is Pak Lah decision to close everything or is Khairy, or his cronies. I believe most ppl will still want Pak Lah as shield so that he can continue sleeping, and is there is any problems the rakyat will blame on him not the individuals who mess up.
#16 by Loh on Sunday, 30 March 2008 - 10:26 pm
PM AAB thought it proper to cite the demonstration in front of KOMTAR as justification for his statement, quoting his son in law, that Malays were marginalised in Penang.
PM AAB said that demonstration was not Malay culture. When UMNO lost Penang, demonstration by UMNO members has been officially accepted. Has Malay culture changed after the election results in Penang?
Has PM AAB made any detailed study to conclude that Malays were marginalised in Penang? Was the claim based on the fact that the Chief Ministers of Penang have always been a Chinese, and thus it is natural that Chinese ministers must discriminate against Malays? The claim was made despite the lack of power by the CM of Penang to discriminate even if he wanted to. Indeed, why did the government express no concern about discrimination of any minority groups in the other 12 states in the country? Was it because the CMs elsewhere were Malays?
KSK, the former CM of Penang is without doubt the poorest among all the CMs of BN controlled states in the country. Can we ask why is the Chinese CM discriminated by the Federal governement? In paying CM salary to a Chinese rather than a Malay, PM AAB can conveniently claim that Malays too are marginalised in the country. After 50 years of nationhood, the person in the position of PM still harps on race issue to garner political capital. He must have a very simple mind, hardly utilised, and fit for transplant.
Malays in Penang are free to move out of the state, or to move in. Has PM AAB any statistics to trace the movement of Malays into and out of the state since 1972? How would AAB account for the Malays who have become successful in business and profession and who chose to leave the state of Penang, and have taken root in other states or overseas. Even if Malays in Penang are not as successful as other races, there cannot be said to be marginalised by the people of Penang because it is the central government which is responsible to help the poor.
NEP had the objective of 30% equity share capital, or to have Malays in the country participated in 30% of business activities in the country. If PM AAB is not even aware of the objective of NEP, and choose to use the 30% measure within a state, or as a measure for any selected activity then ordinary Malays including his son in law can create problems on any issue by claiming that in a particular street, for example, there might not have been 30% of Malay houses, and hence Malays are marginalised. By moving the 30% measuring device, there will be no end to marginalistion claims. Of course when the statistics show 70% in favour of Malays, they want it all, just like employment in government service.
The son-in-law of PM AAB might be playing the role of racist champion to satisfy TDM’s standard as UMNO leader, but for a PM who claims to be PM for all Malaysians to utter statement as though he had to seek UMNO agreement that he too is a racist is pathetic. That too came after BN has lost heavily despite the use of mailed votes where BN could choose to deposit them to any constituency of its choice.
The results of the 1969 election was due to the clearcut polarisation of votes. The non-Malays had enough of of government discriminatory policies, and decided that they should not have 2/3 majority. Since then some two million non-Malays have chosen to believe that ballot boxes would not change their fate.
The recently concluded election saw Malays joining the non-Malays to tell BN that enough is enough. The Malays want to be recognised that when they succeed in life, their success was through their own effort. It bears repeating that the VC of UM said that she would be unhappy if her appointment to the position was achieved by anything other than merit. The same feelings lies in many a successful Malay heart that they are there not because of the ‘dirty approach’ of NEP but they have ‘come of age’. They are stuck with that stigma when BN continues with its perverted approach in hijacking NEP for the benefit of UMNOPutras. The Malays are sick of the unequal opportunity persisting in government policies, and yet PM AAB had dreamt of the statement of fairness. The nebulous objective of attaining fairness presents yet great opportunities of discretional deviation from equal treatment and rule of law.
#17 by alancheah on Sunday, 30 March 2008 - 10:37 pm
Samy now asks for releasing the Hindraf 5.
B4 election, he did not say that!!!
#18 by showsomemercy on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 1:34 am
grace
“Hey, BERDOSA YOU KNOW FOR ACCUSING THE HINDRAF WRONGLY!!!”
What do they know about Dosa?
alancheah
“Samy now asks for releasing the Hindraf 5.B4 election, he did not say that!!!”
Before elections, Samy call them criminals. He wants to get all the credit now! :) Hope the Rakyat are not blinded but his foolishness! Credit should be give to HINDRAF, BERSIH and all opposition leaders for fighting for the freedom of the 5 Hindraf people and not SAMY!
Anyway Samy is:-
He’s FAT
He’s UGLY
He’s a NOBODY!!! :)
#19 by buaya on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 1:34 am
uncle kit
how abt going to the Agong seek help to release H5?
#20 by Menang atau mati on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 1:55 am
If what people say is true, i.e Sami put them in, now Sammi trying to get them out and he is trying to get credit for it????
It is like, create a problem and solve the problem,right?
So should Sammi get the credit?
Some people might say he should be “shot”;I say he should be put under “ISA”
#21 by Jeffrey on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 6:44 am
S Samy Vellu lost his seat in last election but is still MIC president. He now positions himself the champion of the Malaysian Indian community to redeem his image that he was their betrayer. He is taking the opposition to task over the lack of Indians in their state executive councils. “Why only one (Indian state executive councillor?) Why are they following just BN? Is this what they promised before the elections, they have their own motives”. And Samy who had been critical and dismissive of Hindraf in the past will now meet Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi soon to lobby in the interest of “fairness” for the release of the 5 Hindraf leaders held under ISA. Chances are that he would succeed.
And why not? Wasn’t it the great Otto von Bismark who said that “Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable, the art of the next best”? In politics, everything is possible because its objective to secure power, and if that is lost to recapture it, and in this endeavour, winning over public sentiment is everything (for the next round of voting). For this end, politicians are willing to compromise and to make a about face turn.
Now Pak Lah would most likely release Hindraf leaders soon – the logic of the last election results breaking BN’s 50 year record of 2/3 majority in parliament dictates it – but it must be seen that he is “persuaded” by the MIC president supported by Gerakan (all friends within the BN’s political firmament ) rather than YB LKS or NGOs…This is to drive home message that the politics of “consensus and power sharing” within BN is still, despite the recent electoral debacle, alive and kicking!
Nothing is impossible in politics. Tun Dr Mahathir the one who started the 30% Umno Quota System now calls for its abolition – well for so long as it would help him rid the country of a leader that he himself anointed as successor. For that he is wiling to be on the same side of the fence as all his nemesis, both Anwar and Ku Li in opposing Pak Lah even if both Anwar and Ku Li had challenged Mahathir when he was president of UMNO. For power, there are no permanent enemies – or friends………..
Politicians will always be (well) politicians : whichever side of the political fence they play on the rakyat’s sentiments hopes and emotions, get their trust and votes, get to power so as to be able to wield it ostensibly in trust for the rakyat’s weal and well-being, but as the lessons of history amply show, eventually to self aggrandize and enrich themselves and their immediate families and cronies. That is the unchanging nature of human nature which makes Lord Acton comment, “Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely”.
There are essentially two classes of people, those who rule, and those majority who are ruled and often played out and made suckers.
So that is why people have to be educated on and vigilant of and prepared to fight for their rights, and meanwhile erect institutions and checks and balances to counter balance against the waywardness of human nature. That is the only condition to guard against servitude and the only premise of freedom and democracy….
#22 by Bigjoe on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 7:53 am
Well, Samy Vellu have asked for the release of Hindraf 5. I believe Gerakan has also said they should be.
Syed Hamid Albar statement is that they will be release ONLY when they are sure they pose no threat to internal security which could be anything they want it to be…
Although I am all for the release of Hindraf 5, I think Syed Hamid Albar makes a point here. I think if they release Hindraf 5, things could get out of control a la May 13 where the Indian youth behaviour could pissed off ultra UMNOs to violence. Its not Hindraf or the Indian youth that is the problem, its the very insecure and undisciplined behaviour of ultra-UMNOs that is the problem.
The opposition should ask Syed Hamid to spell out clearly what are the threats of releasing Hindraf 5 and the truth will be revealed that the problem won’t be the Indians or Hindraf but that after 40 some years, BN core policy of NEP and Malay rights fundamentally is hollow.
#23 by LadyGodiva on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 8:18 am
“Although I am all for the release of Hindraf 5, I think Syed Hamid Albar makes a point here. I think if they release Hindraf 5, things could get out of control …” BigJoe
In other words the government’s continued detention of these five is necessary or forced even, in the face of the ‘newly emerging security threat’. You could be right. They have now found themselves in a Catch-22 situation. I don’t know if they realise even that! I don’t know if they know what they are doing!
The threat claimed is self-fulfilling.
#24 by LadyGodiva on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 8:21 am
The security threat is no more the reason for their detention but their release! Interesting perspective!
#25 by pjboy on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 8:38 am
Maintain the ISA until BR become the new gomen. If any of the new-opposition (BN) parties demo & shout racial sentiments, lock them up, forfeit their assets-etc, so that they get a taste of their own medicine. Then we will wait & see what they say.
Samy Toll-ue is now an empty pot or kettle. Maybe it’s just a typical political plot, PM AAB will now release the Hindraf-5 & give credit to Samy Toll-ue since he asked nicely. But we all know better lah. All the dinosaur politicians still treat the rakyat like cavemen, even at this stage.
#26 by Jeffrey on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 8:47 am
Unless one denies that Hindraf’s activities and the detention of its leaders have played a role, at least a significant catalyst role in galvanizing electoral protest against the BN – unless one thinks that the BN has no interest in recovering loss ground in the next election – it would otherwise be imperative for the government to consider seriously the release of Hindraf’s leaders as part of the first step in the healing process of not only the racial and other divisions plaguing the society that have in part contributed to the BN’s dismal performance in last elections but also to win back popular support lost.
One cannot keep Hindraf’s leaders detained just to appease the demands of UMNO-ultras whose antics like keris waving and other threats (1) have only served to alienate non Malay votes and (2) have not exactly proven efficacious in galvanizing complete Malay support either (many of whom swung to the Opposition), as the results of the 12th Malaysian General Election evince.
Besides, if Hindraf has played a role in the political tsunami of 8th March 2008 – and Opposition has made such significant advancement in the last election, with acknowledgements on both Government’s and Opposition’s side of the Malaysian Indian predicament and need to attend to their problems – what is there to suppose that Hindraf’s leaders, upon release, will continue to protest in the streets? What is the basis for Hindraf to continue or escalate at this juncture its activities before the election?
The part of “things could get out of control a la May 13” is just bogeyman.
1969 is not 2008.
Now the UMNO putras and their cronies have more to loose to instigate such disturbances.
If they had wanted to, they would have instigated it right after the election to prevent Opposition taking over the state governments. If they did not do it even for that greater reason, why would they do it for a much smaller annoyance, Hindraf???
#27 by Jimm on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 9:06 am
The entire HINDRAF movement was badly framed by UMNO as they knew that they need to keep Indians back at where they are to keep control of Ketuanan Melayu.
Rakyat have decided Malaysian future on 080308 and we will keep pressing on for what in needed for rakyat equally.
The more UMNO tried to defend, the worst their footing going to be.
We all knew that it’s the Malays that are kicking UMNO out of their lives now.
Most Malays have learned from The AAB/KJ/KA kingdom and believe in themselves rather than the 3 father/son/SIL kingdom.
UMNO …. you’re goner.
#28 by Toyol on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 9:37 am
Its simply inhuman to detain people without cause. Have they been accused of something? Then charge them! If not, they MUST be released. The BN govt can no longer run the country. East M’sians…you have been betrayed by BN. Get out now and let BR take over. First thing is to release HINDRAF 5 unconditionally.
#29 by Godfather on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 9:47 am
The only “thing that will get out of control” is the continuing lack of support for BN. What do you think the HINDRAF 5 will do once they are released ? They will continue to campaign against the UMNOputras who demanded their incarceration. This is what the BN thieves are afraid of. Not violence, but the outpouring of sympathy against this morally-corrupt regime.
#30 by lakilompat on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 10:41 am
Sammi Vellu (Notorious Indian Gangster head) is an opportunist, he only come out and talk when things are getting messy, u guys still remember the demolition of 100 yrs Hindu temple, after the demolition he come out on tv, said from now on all Hindu temple the Prime Minister must call him and inform him only then they can start work. When he’s still a minister he do nothing seeing his friends been detained. I’m wondering is he an Indian representing all Indian community.
#31 by nazryan on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 11:04 am
A story from my mother,
She lived in a generation where with hope, joyful and happiness, the birth of Malaysia. She watched in vain when May 13 instill fear and always prayed that it will not happen again. She follows the Baling event where poor Malaysians have hard time getting food. She watched with horror the 1988 Judiciary crisis followed by Anwar sacking. She also saw numerous bailout of failed project government in the past. She saw with sadness all those unsolved murdered cases, rapes and prayed for that justice made sooner or later. She is extremely happy with the 2008 PRU12 result. Remark ” I never thought of living when real changes made by the rakyat’.
Even her generation feels that ISA is now no more relevant. Is it too difficult of a problem for the government to charge all those detainee with a fair hearing? These posed questions:
1. Are our police, AG, court do not have or sufficient or incapable of charging against the detainee.
2. Is there no sufficient evidence to produce and then charge them?
3. Is there no law that govern, these accusation in court so that those found to be indicted face the consequence
4. Is there still lack in work process, poor coordination between relevant agency to produce, prosecute criminals?
These poses the how does the ISA relevant to whom and why, and when and what should be done if it is.
If the answers for all above are yes, it does not mean that ISA is relevant but we need to have a major revamp, investigation, proper management in getting to the bottom of it.
I do not for once want to see all those saw and experienced by my mother again by daughters and her children
However, on a positive note, based on the PRU12 result and other event, I strongly believed that I will live to see the end of the corrupted governance, mismanagement if not soon but maybe later
#32 by lakilompat on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 11:22 am
Maybe it will take another 8 wks after March 8th election, or 8 months after March 8th election with the current Federal govt. it’s hopeless. They will continue to treat Indian as minority, and that they will enjoy a good life flying here and there.
Pak Lah will rather spend time promoting some local pottery industry and mingle with all the rich ppl rather than spending few minutes to the plight of opposition leader.
Let’s us pray everyday for some one to reform the federal govt.
#33 by Menang atau mati on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 11:40 am
Of course, it is inhumane to detain people under ISA.
If what Jeffrey say is true,i.e it is not the Hindraf the government fears but the backlash from the ultra umnoputras and the ensuing upheavals, and if the government believes there is nothing wrong with the ISA i.e to detain without trial, then why should the Hindraf leaders be detained?
Should it not be the ultra umnoputras who should be detained?????
Those who apply the ISA to silence dissent are worse than war criminals.
Let them get a taste of their own medicine, then they will realise what they have done.
What happens if Najib or Hishamuddin is put under ISA for 2 years?Will they still support ISA?
#34 by HJ Angus on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 12:06 pm
Is there a healing process going on?
That is something that is lacking in Malaysian politics, although the PM has indicated that the federal will continue with 9MP projects planned for states controlled by the BR(is there another official term?)
Guess the healing process may begin (if there is chance for one) once the BN components themselves got sorted out.
http://malaysiawatch3.blogspot.com/2008/03/umno-reforms-more-leaders-finding-their.html
Unless UMNO puts in place radical democratic reforms and abandons its elitist and exclusive image, there will be no healing process.
#35 by lakilompat on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 2:00 pm
Healing process, wishes for govt. to reform, and taking note of the defeat, is all fallacy of dream. March 08 Tsunami don’t come easily.
#36 by southallman on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 3:13 pm
Appealing and writing here is not going to make any difference, it has been done before,did Pak Lah listen, voting 82 opposition MPs and taking 5 states just got him to take a bit of notice, let us all march and get them release(peacefully) i
#37 by lakilompat on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 4:12 pm
southallman, i was thinking to march oso, let YB LKS or any opposition leader to give us the marching date and wear what color now. I need to take leave from work to join the march and where should we gather?
Maybe Pak Lah is waiting for opposition leader to march then capture them so he can run the country free from opposition.
#38 by Menang atau mati on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 4:19 pm
I will support the march.Just give me the date n time.
#39 by lakilompat on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 4:59 pm
I will try check with the police whether we can apply for peaceful march in Penang. The problem is where?
#40 by vehir on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 6:54 pm
Why Buntong DAP Adun Mr Sivasubramaniam resigned from the party?
He has said that Indians was marginalised. Only given one EXCO seat. DAP won all over the country with Makkal Sakthi votes. The Indians believed that LKS and its team will take due consideration in appointing Indians to the State Exco but trouble is starting with this chinese base party.
Is DAP same as BN?
#41 by maxplus on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 7:06 pm
vehir
This is the first time most of our indians swinging into opposition; we are still new in the camp; lets not ask for too many things at once.
Our true indian leaders are in the detention camp; lets focus in getting them out first.
Mr Siva should also not forget that the fight for makkal sakti started not by him; i have not heard anything about him before. He should also pay his dues to the Hindraf 5 first.
Not bother too much about position like those morons who used to be in MIC.
#42 by Menang atau mati on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 7:12 pm
Is DAP same as BN?
Any comparison at all?
#43 by vehir on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 7:17 pm
Buntong assemblyman retracts resignation
Monday, 31 March 2008 06:28pm
• Perak: DAP assembly person quits
©The Star (Used by permission)
PETALING JAYA: Buntong assemblyman A. Sivasubramaniam, who earlier quit all posts in the DAP, has retracted his resignation.
He was scheduled to hold a press conference Monday evening to explain his about-turn.
In a letter to DAP secretary-general Lim Guan Eng earlier Monday, Sivasubramaniam said he had had lost confidence in the Perak DAP as it failed to fulfill its promise to appoint two Indian state executive council members.
He added the decision was a “big slap” in the face of Perak Indians and tantamount to deceiving the community.
“My victory in Buntong was a mandate given by the Indian community in the area, and therefore I cannot accept the decision made by the Perak DAP,” he added.
When contacted, Sivasubramaniam said he would not vacate his seat and would instead serve as an independent.
“I have no intention of joining any Barisan component party but will fight for the people of Buntong as an independent,” he said.
He also questioned why DAP central executive committee member A. Sivanesan, who is from Selangor, was chosen as an exco over other Perak DAP leaders.
Sivasubramaniam claimed that he and state party committee member and Tronoh assemblyman V. Sivakumar were supposed to get the exco posts as they had worked hard and sacrificed a lot for the party.
He added that even if an Indian Perak DAP member were to get an assembly Speaker or Deputy Speaker post, it could not “do much for the Indian community.”
“This is not right. The leadership should be discussing the allocation of exco posts and other appointments with all 18 DAP assemblymen,” said Sivasubramaniam.
Of the 10 exco members sworn in on March 29, six were from DAP, including one Indian representative, Sungkai assemblyman A. Sivanesan.
In the March 8 general election, the Opposition coalition won 31 state seats in Perak – 18 seats went to DAP, seven to PKR, and six to PAS – while Barisan bagged 28 seats.
#44 by maxplus on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 7:19 pm
The i am sure the latest news is Siva has retracted his resignation.
Uncle Lim; you need to be extra cautios nowadays with Semi Value; he is making fun of the indian DAP and PKR won candidates and us indian voter who did not vote for BN
Well he is good for nothing and we all knew that.
He is now trying to champion the release of the Hindraf 5.
Tell u what;why not campaign for the release of all the 60 + 5 in ISA; thats fair for everyone right?
#45 by penang308 on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 7:20 pm
Please, please Mr Sivasubramaniam,
We are in this together. We are going to face the reality together. Whether we make it or not, we will always be together!
Remember, the Malay and Chinese voted for you. We believe we can do it together, NOT CHINESE DO FOR CHINESE, MALAY DO FOR MALAY, INDIAN DO FOR INDIAN!
Whether the Exco is Malay or Chinese or Indian, he or she suppose to SERVE ALL NOT BASE ON SKIN COLOUR.
FOR THE 1ST TIME IN MALAYSIAN HISTORY, WE SEE SOME LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNER. PLEASE DO NOT DESTROY IT!
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO GO BACK TO BN’s RULE(“base on race”)?
I BEG YOU, I BEG YOU! PLEASE GIVE THE BR A CHANCE!
#46 by vehir on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 7:24 pm
KDN tidak berganjak keputusan tahanan Hindraf
Oleh Bernama
Isnin, 31 Mac 2008
KL: Kementerian Dalam Negeri tidak akan berganjak daripada keputusan mengekalkan penahanan lima pemimpin pertubuhan haram Hindraf mengikut Akta Keselamatan Dalam Negeri (ISA) walaupun Presiden MIC Datuk Seri S.Samy Vellu mendesak supaya mereka dibebaskan.
Menteri Dalam Negeri Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar berkata Samy Vellu berhak menyuarakan apa yang diperjuangkan oleh MIC, namun tindakan terhadap golongan itu adalah berdasarkan proses yang diiktiraf undang-undang.
“Tugas saya ialah menentukan apa juga isu yang dibuat, bukan satu keputusan berasaskan keputusan saya, tetapi berasaskan proses-proses yang diiktiraf undang-undang dalam menentukan keselamatan dan ketenteraman awam sentiasa terjamin,” katanya kepada pemberita selepas melawat Ibu Pejabat Polis Diraja Malaysia di Bukit Aman di sini hari ini, lawatan pertamanya ke situ sejak dilantik menerajui kementerian itu pada 18 Mac lepas.
Semalam Samy Vellu berkata beliau akan bertemu Syed Hamid Albar dan Perdana Menteri Datuk Seri Abdulah Ahmad Badawi bagi meminta kerajaan membebaskan pemimpin-pemimpin Hindraf itu.
Ditanya adakah wajar Samy Vellu menyuarakan perkara tersebut, Syed Hamid beliau berkata sebagai ahli politik, Presiden MIC itu berhak untuk menyuarakan perkara itu.
“Tapi kita mempunyai tugas dan tanggungjawab untuk memberi perkhidmatan yang lebih baik,” katanya.
#47 by maxplus on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 7:33 pm
Semi Value tak da muka malu langsung; real muka tebal as they say.
Who is to speak up for the release?
A lost BN candidate has a ” hak” to speak up.
A won DAP candidate cannot speak at all ah?
And othe MIC member are true morons just watching this jerk keep talking; you orang makan kari ada taruk garam ka?
Datuk Syed; ask Semi Value how and where he did his hair implant la!!!
#48 by maxplus on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 7:41 pm
Uncle Sam; pls do not intervene the process of getting the Hindraf 5 release; you may end up spoiling the whole thing.
Pls take rest and find ways to get the MAIKA money back to the investors; thats your homework
#49 by lopez on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 8:17 pm
it is part of the life cycle of malai yan politicians, democracy everyone who went to school knows the word, but do they know what it means , maybe yes to their own interpretation and perceptions.
everyone is entitle to have his own version of the meaning.
But as a professional politician, you cannot apply what you personally feel and advocate all your life. When you lied enough and try hard enough you get your way….told long enough it has become the truth and a fact in its own right.
This bald is one of those sxb, and just a second generation born individual , who hardly even had enough shoulder rubbing with other fellow malaysians than many of us whose forefathers sweat on this land more than that sxb and he is calling the shouts….and using his power to fight the pleads of the people.
Legalist ways dont work in a K-society.
You dont obey i whack you
You dont pay the fine i confiscate your belongings
You shout back i punish you.
You object i make your life difficult
YOU DONT LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE YOU GOT NO JOB.
#50 by vehir on Monday, 31 March 2008 - 8:50 pm
Proton recalls 34,000 Savvy cars
PETALING JAYA: Proton is recalling its Savvy cars over a possible problem with regards to the car’s rear-wheel bearing.
The company said a recent inspection has brought to its attention that water could get into the bearing, which could lead to a malfunction.
“The safety and satisfaction of our customers is a primary concern. As a precautionary measure, we are recalling all Savvy’s for inspection and repair,” Proton managing director Datuk Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed said in a press statement.
The recall will affect a total of 34,000 cars. All Savvy owners are advised to take their cars to the nearest Proton Edar or EON service branch for an inspection.
Proton said it would conduct the necessary checks and replacements at no cost to the customer.
They can also call Proton i-Care at 1-300-880-888 for further info.