Public inquiry into several billions of ringgit of Wang Ehsan “black gold” expenditures in Terengganu


The constitutional crisis in Terengganu over the appointment of Datuk Ahmad Said as the new Mentri Besar has come to an end with the Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi backing off from his original nominee of the former Mentri Besar Datuk Seri Idris Jusoh.

As a result, the front-page article of former Prime Minister Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad in The Sun on “Role of rulers in picking mentri besar” has been overtaken by events.

However, Mahathir’s views on two ongoing controversies – Wang Ehsan and the judicial crisis – are very pertinent.

On the Wang Ehsan issue, Mahathir wrote:

Terengganu is blessed with petroleum deposits. It should get 5% of the total earning from oil production. The Federal Government; fearing the previous PAS government might use this money wrongly had withheld payment.

But when the Barisan Nasional (BN) regained Terengganu the money, now called “Wang Ehsan”, was lavishly spent by the Federal Government on Terengganu. It is not a small sum. Over these years “Wang Ehsan” totalled several billion.

We know that since the BN regained Terengganu in 2004, all kinds of projects have been developed in Terengganu. This includes The Monsoon Cup, luxury housing for sale to foreigners, Crystal Mosque and theme park, university, etc. Some of these projects are very good but many are totally unnecessary and wasteful.

But what the Terengganu people are saying is that all these mega projects costing billions of Ringgit have been contracted out to people outside Terengganu. Terengganu contractors got practically nothing.

But additionally, they say the contracts all went to one person and they are suspicious that behind this person are members of the first family.The rumours also say that the previous Mentri Besar was responsible for these things happening and of course, they think that he might have benefited financially.

The rumours went on to say that the Prime Minister might have influenced the Mentri Besar into doing wrong things. These are all rumours. It will be quite impossible to prove anything as the perpetrators are skilled in hiding themselves.

This is not good for a Government keen to abolish corruption and be transparent. To clear its name, an investigation should be made.

With former Prime Minister Mahathir coming round to the view that there should be an investigation into the expenditures of Wang Ehsan, Abdullah should take up the challenge to institute a public inquiry on accountability and integrity of expenditures of several billions of ringgit of “black gold” through Wang Ehsan in Terengganu in the past seven years since 2000.

In his article, Mahathir also denied any fault, culpability or responsibility for the two-decade crisis of confidence in the judiciary, particularly the 1988 “mother” of judicial crisis which saw the arbitrary and unconstitutional sacking of Tun Salleh Abas as Lord President and Datuk George Seah and the late Tan Sri Wan Suleiman Pawanteh as Supreme Court judges, as well as the suspension of three other Supreme Court judges.

This is what Mahathir wrote:

Even other accusations against me, including the dismissal of judges, were not my doing and I do not feel obliged to apologise. Ask the Tribunal to apologise.

The person asking that the Government should apologise for what happened to Tun Salleh Abbas may have forgotten that as President of the Muslim Lawyers Association, he fully supported the action that was taken. He castigated the Bar Council for condemning Tun Hamid Omar over the dismissal of judges. Now he wants to be more correct than correct. I wonder why.

If Mahathir could suggest an inquiry into the investigation into the expenditures of several billions of ringgit on Wang Ehsan in Terengganu, he should also support a public investigation into the two-decade crisis of confidence in the judiciary, starting with the “mother of judicial crisis” in 1988.

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  1. #1 by cemerlang on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 8:48 pm

    Good to know that the Terengganu crisis has come to an end when Mister Prime Minister said that the Sultan has to be respected. I think it is time for more members of the royal family to go into politics and to do the work of a politician.

    With regards to the financial expenses in Terengganu, this is what we call by cliques or birds of the same feathers flock together. If these people are brought to court, it will be something like the Lingam’s case.

    Tourism should have a big impact on this state.

  2. #2 by lbl on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 9:04 pm

    Now that the PM has recognised that the internet is able to influence voters, It is hoped that he will encourage his ministers to have blogs of their own.
    Just like the one YB Lim and his son has.
    I wish the ex-MB of Selangor will have a blog of his own so that he is able to defend what the present MB of Selangor is going to dig up.

  3. #3 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 9:06 pm

    YB LIM,

    While i do appreciate the good in exposing the misdeeds and scandals of barisan nasional performance. The corrupted leaders and x leaders, it think it is high time that the five states that the barisan raayat rule would come to common consensus and common ground .

    It is pretty eerie that the five states do not share the same management know how and to cooperate among the states for the greater benefits of the raayat of the states.

    This western corridor than spans from kedah, penang, perak and selangor should share a common boundary ie from kedah to selangor. ( GOD SEND)This will auger well for the benefit for all to see, malaysians as well as foreigners.

    Currently, it seems that kedah is talking yan refinery,penang with shaddy land deals and aca, perak on kampung heads appointment and selangor on migrant workers. I agreed that there are different issues to be tackled at the various state , and while there are differences , WHY NOT LOOK AT THE SIMILARITIES.

    THE SIMILARITIES WILL MAKE THE BARISAN RAAYAT A GOVERNMENT OF HALF THE PENISULA OF MALAYSIA, rather than the opposition controlled five states.

    i hope YB lim and pkr and pas will make this opportunity to formulate some STANDARDS that are applicable in the STATES. like investment policies, housing problems, subsidies to single parents and those earning below poverty rate and even asset declarations.

    it is imperative that a collective decision is made , and it only embarass the barisan raayat , that the mbs and cm talk in different lingo.

    WITHOUT ANY FURTHER REMINDER , I KNOW THAT BN WAS CORRUPTED AND IS CORRUPTED, thats the reason i voted for change. i voted the coalition of dap, pkr, pas.

    PLEASE CONSIDER SERIOUSLY TO WORK IN SYNERGY AS A GOVERNMENT OF HALF PENISULA , where the best talents are tapped, cost savings , and singular cause. it is much like the merger of banks and other institutions for the greater benefit of the shareholders, which in this case are THE RAAYAT.

    yours sincerely.

  4. #4 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 9:07 pm

    awaiting moderation again ?

  5. #5 by undergrad2 on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 9:07 pm

    ““Even other accusations against me, including the dismissal of judges, were not my doing and I do not feel obliged to apologize. Ask the Tribunal to apologize”. Mahathir

    This reminds me of Hilary Clinton’s recent story of how she and her daughter Chelsea made a corkscrew landing by army helicopter in Bosnia not too long ago “amidst sniper fire”, and how she had to take cover etc. That is until news archives show the reverse is true. It was a perfect landing in a secure area “without so much as a bumble bee flying around” – in the words of the helicopter pilot and a retired sniper sergeant.

    Perhaps now we should expect to hear from Mahathir that he even sought the audience of the Agong and asked that he declared the sacking of the Lord President as not only unconstitutional but the hearing by the Tribunal under the chairmanship of Hamid Omar (who later profitted from the sacking) contrary to the law of natural justice a concept grounded in English common law!

  6. #6 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 9:12 pm

    sometimes it may be good to mail me, to tell me which part of my comments need moderating PLEASE.

  7. #7 by tokki20 on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 9:48 pm

    ‘The Federal Government; fearing the previous PAS government might use this money wrongly had withheld payment….’…….hoi hang SABOTAJ!!!!!

    Orang tua ni memang tak sedak diri. Sombong dan angkuh. Pak Lah dia cabak hang korek salah guna kuasa dia…….korekla……apa takut.

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  8. #8 by taxpayer on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 9:53 pm

    Ask the Tribunal to apologise. So now he agrees that Tun Salleh was wrongfully dismissed. For more than 20 years he thought otherwise. The govt. should now set up a Royal Commission to examine who was behind the tribunal.

  9. #9 by AhStone on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 10:24 pm

    mahatir is no different than bodohwi. he is still as arrogant as he is and he should be the one responsible for the 1988 judiciary crisis. who the hell he think he is- he kicked tun abbas and the others bcoz he could not manipulate them as they were men of integrity. by removing them thats when the the system collapse. he must take the blame for it. he too has done a lot of damage to our country. no wonder umno baru is so corrupt. bapak borek anak rintik.

    bodohwi maybe stupid but mahatir is just making things worse. he got no balls to do all this while he was still in power. our country started rotting and becoming into a circus since his era. he must be held responsible for his actions

  10. #10 by showsomemercy on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 10:26 pm

    Chiak kah liau! Eat all ! Where can tahan? Haiz… From a rich country now we become fourth world country! And Our Prime Minister Still Sleeping!

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  11. #11 by Richard Teo on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 10:40 pm

    I dont think Tan Sri Khalid knows what he is doing. He seem to be back-pedalling on all the PKR’s manifesto.Slowly he is beginning to sound like the old UMNO boy.Personally I think Annuar should go for a state by-election and take over the M.B’s post, otherwise its bye-bye PKR,DAP and PAS.

  12. #12 by Jeffrey on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 10:43 pm

    “Even other accusations against me, including the dismissal of judges, were not my doing and I do not feel obliged to apologise. Ask the Tribunal to apologise.” – Tun Dr Mahathir.

    He obviously has selective memory.

    The tribunal dismissing Salleh Abas comprising 4 Malaysian judges, a Sri Lankan judge, and a Singaporean judge with tribunal chairman Abdul Hamid Omar were appointed by Mahathir. At time it was Mahathir who made verbal attacks on judiciary.

    In Dato Rais Yatim’s 1995 book “Freedom under Executive Power in Malaysia – A Study of Executive Supremacy” he wrote:-

    “Since late 1987, Prime Minister Mahathir has issued a series of public statements critical of the judiciary. He has not only questioned the judiciary’s prerogative in adjudicating cases concerning state power, but has publicly questioned the integrity of judges who have ruled against the government in such cases. These statements have created improper pressures on judges with respect to cases concerning public policy issues. This is contrary to standards of international law, including the UN Basic Principles, which set out that the judiciary shall decide matters before them ‘without any restrictions, improper influences, inducements, pressures, threats or interferences, direct or indirect, from any quarter or for any reason.’”

    According to Salleh Abbas, it was Dr Mahathir who summoned him to his office 18 years ago and told him to either quit or face a tribunal. According to Salleh, Mahathir told him that he was asked to step down because of a letter which he had written to the King regarding the state of relationship between the judiciary and the executive.

    In 1988, it was Mahathir Administration that amended the Article 121(1) and 145 of the constitution to divest the court of the “judicial power of the Federation”. “, giving to judges only such power as Parliament might grant them

  13. #13 by limkamput on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 10:50 pm

    Richard, fully agree with you.

    My view is DAP, PKR and PAS must get down to serious thinking on how to govern the states rather than just keep highlighting the deficiency of BN. To me, this is a distraction strategy. We know already BN is hopeless. What we want to see now is that DAP, PAS and PKR are not ended hopeless like BN. So far I only see ad hoc and piecemeal policy pronouncements which are “populist” in nature. An effective government must take the bull by its horns and dare to take unpopular measures for the long term good of the people. Just look at Singapore in the initial years and even now.

  14. #14 by limkamput on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 10:56 pm

    I think we should stop wasting time debating over some stupid statements made by a “has been” politician which have little consequence. He is saying and doing all these nonsense now. But tell me, does he really have the interest of the people in his heart. Or is it just a personal ego or power game he plays?

  15. #15 by showsomemercy on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 11:22 pm

    Man Man Lei… You all to impatient liow… Time will tell… Not even three weeks into their office you all fire from all cylinders.. :) At least all of us wake up after 50 years… Still not too late… We can give BN 50 years, why dont we give our brothers, PKR,DAP and PAS more time…

    PAS have proven they can do their work in Kelantan after 18 years, we should give DAP and PKR some time…

    Cheers peeps!

  16. #16 by leeann on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 11:30 pm

    i can’t wait to see those stole the rakyat’s money go to jail.
    the faster the better.

  17. #17 by showsomemercy on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 11:41 pm

    leeann:

    not the faster the better… let me teach you a new word today..i mean two words…

    The Fasterer, The Betterer! :)

  18. #18 by badak on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 11:43 pm

    Dig up all the corruption in the five states that BR is controling,I can bet come the next GE more states will vote opposition.

  19. #19 by showsomemercy on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 11:43 pm

    Don’t worry badak, it will surface slowly BUT surely…! :)

  20. #20 by k1980 on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 11:44 pm

    Come on lah, please lah… 5 more years in power and then I’ll step down…Gimme a chance lah, tolong
    http://bp3.blogger.com/_POEjTUihojQ/R-onmaGCZnI/AAAAAAAAAQo/phQniGMSqoU/s400/373_badawi.jpg

  21. #21 by sonicwall on Friday, 28 March 2008 - 11:56 pm

    Before any Royal Commission on Wang Ehsan, can the Rakyat know what happen to Lingam case?

  22. #22 by pgsilai on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 12:11 am

    As I read more of the “real” news from Malaysia Kini, Malaysia Today and Malaysia Insider, it makes me sick and our country is really rotting ! Corruption, corruption & corruption ! When is it going to end?

    BR, please put on your thinking caps and deliver the promises given to rakyat during the ceramah before election. No point highlighting BN is corrupted and hopeless, even small kid knows that. Just do your work, dig them out, make them pay for their wrong doings! The more you highlight, better still they finds ways to hide and cover up.We all know that Zakaria house is like a palace. Now that he is gone, who is investigating where he got his loot?

    I certainly support Public Inquiry on Wang Ehsan, The rakyat deserves to know who are the Real Suckers!

  23. #23 by yang tahan mati on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 12:24 am

    Kalau Wang Ehsan yang berratus juta itu telah digunakan oleh kerajaan BN dengan betul, maka bilangan rakyat negeri Trengganu yang miskin tentu tidak setinggi hari ini. Tetapi anehnya dalam pilihanraya yang lepas BN masih menang lebih dari 2/3!

  24. #24 by kickbutt on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 12:28 am

    “Personally I think Annuar should go for a state by-election and take over the M.B’s post, otherwise its bye-bye PKR,DAP and PAS.” RichardTeo

    Oh Yeah! What makes you think it is going to be any different??

  25. #25 by undergrad2 on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 12:42 am

    Listen up, guys! I always have my doubts of the ability of an alliance borne out of a common hatred for an enemy to govern and still be true to their ideals. The only party that stands to benefit from the finger pointing and the mud slinging which is to come will only be the BN.

  26. #26 by kickbutt on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 12:56 am

    You hear PKR leaders post election addressing concern from their supporters talking about Malay rights and about not shirking their responsibility, is this not old wine in a new bottle with a different label??

  27. #27 by HJ Angus on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 1:04 am

    I wonder why some of us are so impatient with getting instant insults – too much instant noodles and fast foods?

    The coalition also needs time to gel as an effective admin in each state before they can check into past misdeeds.

    Already in Penang they are looking at land deals that may not be above board.
    I am sure there are many things that can be checked for improper deals but it all takes a lot of time and effort to get it done properly while running the normal affairs of state.

    My 2-sen worth is that if they can perform more than 20% better than the previous lot within the 5-year frame, they will stand a good chance of retaining power in the next GE.

  28. #28 by HB Lim on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 1:07 am

    Richard Teo Says:
    I dont think Tan Sri Khalid knows what he is doing. He seem to be back-pedalling on all the PKR’s manifesto.Slowly he is beginning to sound like the old UMNO boy.Personally I think Annuar should go for a state by-election and take over the M.B’s post, otherwise its bye-bye PKR,DAP and PAS.

    —————–

    Richard, I have gone through your comment over and over again some 6 times and it is just a general accusation on the face of it and I cannot fathom what are the “backpedalling on PKR’s manifesto” and “sounding like UMNO” that you wrote about. Would you care to elaborate, please?

    Regarding Adam Yong’s comment, what he has said may be true but at any one time, the problems each of the MB’s and the CM has to confront and address would be of different kinds but that does not mean that they do not have a common set of political, economical, social etc policies reagrding the same or similar problems.

    Khalid was asked generally about empowering the local youths and hence he touched on how to raise money to train them while Guan Eng at the same time was hit with the news of irregularities in land dealings in Penang and he had to address the matter of threats of potential legal actions against the State. At the same time too, the MB of Perak was probably faced with grumblings from some ketua-ketua kampong as to their standing now and he had to provide an answer to that problem.

    The point is that they are confronted with different problems at that point in time. If for example Guan Eng or Khalid had said that ketua kampong henceforth would still be handpicked from party ranks, then we would have cause for concern that the policies are not streamlined so far as BR is concerned.

    Having said that, it may be a good idea that so soon as the MB’s and the CM have a fair appreciation of the multifaceted problems faced by them in the administration of their respective States, they should hold a meeting to discuss, agree on and declare common approaches to handle those problems. That would definitely have wide national repercussion and relevance and provide clarity to and instill confidence on the general public.

    Make the meetings regularly recurring events and it would be something the BN MB’s may emulate and the people would then have the benefit of being able to compare and contrast the different approaches and policies. After a few meetings, a common set of approaches and policies would evolve for each coalition and the people would then be able to make informed choices in the next election.

  29. #29 by Menang atau mati on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 2:35 am

    Dear YB Lim,

    DAP – A CHINESE BASED PARTY?

    A few bloggers on your website here have asked on the same topic mentioned above.

    In my view, I believe that DAP’s very constitution is a multi-racial based one, one that champions the causes of all races and not otherwise as in UMNO, MCA or MIC.

    I also believe that the majority of DAP’s members are Chinese and perhaps a significant portion are Indians with a very minor portion being Malays.

    Why is it that DAP has in the past and perhaps still now being viewed as a Chinese party if not a Chinese based party fighting for the rights of the Chinese?

    This is because of the propaganda of UMNO and BN with their control of the main stream media creating fear among the Malays portraying DAP as a racist party.

    Because DAP has been portrayed as a Chinese party which is anti –Malay by UMNO in the past, many Malays find it difficult to be associated with DAP or become its members.

    I believe DAP membership is open to all races and that not many Malays wanting to be its member is no fault of the party.

    However, in view of the weakening of the BN government, the diminished credibility, if any is still left of it, of the main stream media and the changing political landscape after the tsunami of 8th March, it is imperative that DAP embarks on a concerted effort to recruit members from the pool of talented untainted Malays .

    Although DAP has always champion causes for all Malaysians and its constitution is also multi-racial, it will not be perceived as a multi-racial party so long as it does not have sufficient or visible Malay memberships.

    Victory or Death

  30. #30 by abd.samad on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 4:53 am

    Tuan,
    I think you should take this meter with Odit Negara.
    Mana Odit Negara punya report on Expenditure of Wang Ehsan.
    Last year they make a case about over price of PC, spanar, pencel
    Not fair to the civil servent
    This is Bilion of Ringgit.
    If Odit really berkecuali
    they should put up the report.
    And so if the report is ok.. so the expenditure is ok
    i think you understand me more

  31. #31 by pulau_sibu on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 5:28 am

    Mahathir, you are the one responsible for the big mess, because you picked up Abdullah

  32. #32 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 6:47 am

    i do agreed with menang atau mati. it is go time to go on a recruitment drive.
    dap has always champion for the underpriviledged and the underdogs.

    “YAB LM GUAN ENG WAS JAILED FOR TRYING TO AID A YOUNG MALAY GIRL ”

    many may not know.
    ____________________________

    hb lim.

    i propose a setting up of a common top leaders executive team,headed by the respective party chief and mb and cm. have a monthly,or at least now, forthnightly meeting to discuss common issues. THATS SYNERGY.

    COMMON ISSUES:
    crime : we cannot depend on the police in total, maybe we can start rukuntertangga in all 5 states.

    single mother : provide employment opportunities for them, and or work with ngos to offer support. a provision of rm500.00 per month for each single mother.

    education : set up centres for free tuitions for all races. i am sure that are many retired teachers that are most willing to offer the sevice.

    foreign workers: do we impose levy or can we impose levy or can we improve the living conditions of most of the foreign workers.if you we go some of the factories that employ foreigners , it is ashame how they are treated. FANS are luxury .

    i am sure many bloggers out there , like victory or death, jeffrey, limkamput have all good intentions are ideas too. thank you

  33. #33 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 7:11 am

    morning to all.

    i think why most of the time , our remarks are “awaiting moderating” and some even deleted ,is that it is quite fair to the webmaster to ensure nothing seditious is written.

    The government has not come to term with freedom of speech and press as yet.

    i am equally frustrated, that when one is in the M list. it is like citos,that gives a wrong non updated data about the blogger.

    anyway this is YB lim site, and that is his right.

    but i do feel that it is impolite that some are very personal in their “attack” of other bloggers. i think limkamput is one that is subjected to such abuse. limkamput does imput lots of good ideas,but some like to attack him ‘below the belt.” my opinion only.

  34. #34 by Tickler on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 8:51 am

    Adam Yong: Actually the comments don`t get deleted, just that they reappear after a few days.

    Yeah you are right on your observance re: limkamput

  35. #35 by Tickler on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 8:51 am

    TDM says the Tribunal should apologize over the Salleh Abbas Affair. But the Agung appointed the Tribunal (on TDM`s recommendation).

    So now TDM is saying the Agung should apologize?

  36. #36 by lopez on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 9:33 am

    Tribal rules rules in bodohland

  37. #37 by LadyGodiva on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 10:17 am

    http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/berita/komen_undang_undang/soal_budi_bicara_lantik_menteri_besar.html

    Why is the Sultan giving the salute and the PM not??

    Why is the Sultan giving the American salute and not the British salute? Are we now Americanized?

  38. #38 by kaiba on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 10:36 am

    i’m in terengganu here myself, and although i’m not been here for a very long period, i have been here long enough to witness all the mega project been done over here. sincerely, i do not care who are the contractors behind all the multi billions ringgit project, however, what i know it really does starting to develop the state up. Although so many calls such as “how many thousands of mosque in the states we built”, “how many low-cost houses we prepared for the poor”, how we invigorate the islam” and all those rubbish, i didn’t see any increment in the culture and living level in the people over here. not to say the job opportunity, even all those rural area has been totally ignored by the state government.

    sincerely, no matter who takes over control of terengganu and other states, those who can benefits the people are the good one. and people ill keep supporting those who benefit them.

  39. #40 by limkamput on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 11:16 am

    Dear moderator,
    I hope you have read the posting above by Adam Yong and Tickler, which more or less highlighted my situation here. The reason why I have not written to you earlier is because I thought you will eventually do the right thing. I also thought may be no other blogger cares really and so it is better for me to handle this myself. Since I now find some support from fellow bloggers, may be I just want to capitalise on it to tell you a thing or two.

    I just want to seek your clarification – when a blogger is subjected to constant personal attack and uncalled for remarks, can that blogger retaliate? I notice when I did not respond to those attacks, you as the moderator, has done nothing and continue to allow those attacks to stand. However, I when started to retaliate (and I believe rightly so), you will start to give warning and deleting as if the problem was started by me.

    I think many of us come here because we feel that we have the knowledge and experience to contribute something which we hope can bring betterment to Malaysia. We would like to think that some of the ideas and suggestions made were actually taken up by politicians and political parties to win election and to run the government. So be fair, and please don’t treat us like we have nowhere else to go. You are welcome to give a rejoinder.

    You have a good day, bye.

    [Because of the increased traffic, it is not possible to keep abreast of comments until some time later. Moderator has no intention to take sides. However, the blog must not be reduced into a vehicle for feuding or exchange of invectives. - Admin]

  40. #41 by Plaintruth on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 11:18 am

    Shame on UMNOPUTRA. The bottom of the barrel, the skunk of the earth.

    It take a former Prime Mininster to enlighten the masses. There are thousands of these irregularites and scandalous hideous acts, we all need to expose them. Expose the crimes, the sin the UMNOPUTRA had done to Malaysian.

    Use all the internet blogs and create your own webpage to tell the world.

  41. #42 by cto on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 1:47 pm

    Limkamput has the right to free speech. On the other hand with supporters like limkamput, who needs the BN cybertroopers?

    Personally, I support the former more than the latter. So, I support limkamput’s right to freedom of speech and expression. His unique style just attracts a lot more flames than others. :)

  42. #43 by Menang atau mati on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 1:59 pm

    ON SHAME AND SCANDAL

    With so many scandals exposed and yet to be exposed, BN and Umno will only get a superficial reform if it is still helmed by the existing leaders .If it is taken over by new leaders who themselves do not have a clean track record ,it will also be a superficial reform.
    It will not be a credible alternative second political front.

    This may be good for the BR parties, but then the Rakyat will not have choices.

    How do we ensure that BR parties do not eventually go wayward?

    History has shown that empires always without fail wax and wane.

    I feel that MIC, MCA, Gerakan and UMNO is probably beyond salvation.

    If the BR parties stay united, the next General Election will see them being voted in as the Federal Government for sure.

    Sarawak will see the BR parties make huge significant inroads in the next state elections in about 2 years time provided BR parties work as one and start working on a roadmap to capture Sarawak.

    Today 5,Tomorrow Malaysia!!!

  43. #44 by waterfrontcoolie on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 4:10 pm

    lextcs, are you a commie? The Rulers in the country have acted with responsibilities all these years. At times we might have come across some as high-handed. Compare them with the BN leaders, the amount the Rulers are getting are peanuts. Just do some calculation and you will know that the current scenario will prove that they have a role to play.
    You think, given the job, you could do better?
    Be realitic of the environment you are living in. Don’t day dream, man!!! Because day-dreaming or the very thought of it is extremely dangerous.
    As for TDM, he created the former ‘Minister for Law’ who prolclaimed that the politicians, especially those from UMNO are the MASTER of the Nation!! Who gave him the thought and the gut to say in? Who else? In fact that statement was an effrontery to the Rulers of the country.
    AAB, as I have indicated some where at this site, bite the bullet and create a Royal Ombudsman to enquire on ALL ISSUES that the public have doubts and questions over their implementations. Unless you are prepared to tell the whole truth to shame the devil, you are finis to!!!!!!

  44. #45 by catharsis on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 6:41 pm

    …………………………………Because of the increased traffic, it is not possible to keep abreast of comments until some time later. Moderator has no intention to take sides. However, the blog must not be reduced into a vehicle for feuding or exchange of invectives. – Admin……………………………………………………….

    Is this “soap box”forum?……..if it is then the freedom of speech principle should be allowed. And in any open debates- criticism and opinions should be allowed to be defended or challenged in a balanced arguement approach

    However having said that:

    “EVEN A FOOL IS THOUGHT WISE IF HE KEEPS SILENT AND DISCERNING IF HE HOLDS HIS TONGUE” should be the prompt of the day to anyone who is not THOUGHT WISE with his/her opinions or criticisms

  45. #46 by alistaire on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 6:48 pm

    Limkaput, I agree with you. The moderators here seem to be biased, a little, if not much. I once posted a comment in a previous article noting that Malays are justified in fearing the DAP in the same way Chinese fear PAS.

    The thing is, PAS has started to address its issues. Now there are PSC (PAS supporters clubs) consisting of non-Muslim Malaysians. There was a non-Muslim PAS candidate in Johor, Kumutha Rahman. A Harakah I bought today had a picture of an Indian woman wearing a tshirt bearing the words “I’m Indian. I’m Hindu. And I want leadership by the ulamak.” And I have seen blogs where non-Muslim Malaysians openly proclaim (and proudly too) that they are PAS supporters.

    The thing is DAP has not done anything like this. Its no good whining that the media is being pro-UMNO etc. DO SOMETHING! Malays do come here and read this and other DAP blogs dont they? And so far what they see is not encouraging.

    Don’t Just Change It, DAP. Change Yourself too!

  46. #47 by arctanck on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 6:48 pm

    Public enquiry to this Wang Ehsan is necessary. What I however don’t like is this trouble-maker Mahathir, who I firmly believe has a hidden agenda to undermine the current administration. I do not think Badawi is a good leader, but in a way I think he is better than Mahathir. I’ll be very interested to see what happen if Anwar gets in power, whether Mahathir will leave the country and go hiding. You know what, I’d really like to see Mahathir goes down, otherwise people including himself will still think he was a great Prime Minister.

  47. #48 by catharsis on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 6:57 pm

    …………………..The thing is DAP has not done anything like this. Its no good whining that the media is being pro-UMNO etc. DO SOMETHING! Malays do come here and read this and other DAP blogs dont they? And so far what they see is not encouraging.

    Don’t Just Change It, DAP. Change Yourself too!……………………..

    DAP HAS TO ADAPT TO THE NEW POLITICAL LANDSCAPE LEST THE ROCKET WILL BECOME AN IRRELEVANT BRAND (WHEN COMPARED WITH PKR WHICH IS POTRAYING ITSELF AS OF MULTI-ETHNICITY CHARACTERISTICS

    UNCLE LIM -FOOD FOR THOUGHT

  48. #49 by alistaire on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 7:17 pm

    I remember reading an article on Globalisation by Americanisation, where a Dutch man was quoted as saying “In Globalising the World, America forgot to Globalise itself”

    This comment stuck in my head. Lets see if this works for others here:

    In Changing Malaysia, the Opposition forgot to Change themselves.

  49. #50 by Tim Sng on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 7:49 pm

    Sdr Lim Senior,

    Apologising….”Minta maaf…” is a very Malaysian thing, also very much a nature of any Godly person, to seek forgiveness……best during a festive season, Raya for Muslims, CNY for Chinese, Christmas for Christians and Deepavali for Hindus…

    Question is, “Will it begin a chain of reconciliation, which should be good for the nation?”

    The queue is long…..

    1. Tun Salleh Abas
    2. Sdr DSAI
    3. YB Karpal
    4. YB KS Lim
    5. Dollah Ahmad
    6. James Wong
    7. Chandra Muz
    8. ?GE Lim
    9. Syed Hussin
    10. …and the list goes on…..

    After 50 years, transparency, honesty and integrity may be finally arriving….

    I am for amnesty for all i.e those who do not deserve to be locked up, and those who have caused it through some error in decision. I do not feel that we should dig back 50 years of the past.

    Most Heads of Department, Director Generals, Chief Secretaries when they retire, in their farewell dinner often in passing ask for forgiveness for any error in executive decisions.

    The way is forward, not to look backwards, though to turn back bad decisions and to restore back those who have been wrongly penalised is good, provided we do not reopen files and go into a witch-hunting spree, which is messy and unnecessary. Let us move forward, like China, Japan, Russia…they leave the Maos, Stalins and Hirohitos behind.

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