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	<title>Comments on: Second Abdullah Cabinet - no signs of &#8220;Point made and point taken&#8221;</title>
	<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/</link>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-99328</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-99328</guid>
		<description>Pak Lah can be like George Bush, I've heard u, but in fact, it's not important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pak Lah can be like George Bush, I&#8217;ve heard u, but in fact, it&#8217;s not important.</p>
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		<title>By: kerishamuddinitis</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-94265</link>
		<dc:creator>kerishamuddinitis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-94265</guid>
		<description>Ooooh, yes, DSAI is uncharacteristerically quiet, isn't he? But then, while he hasn't made too many statements, the ones he chose to make are rather telling, like "...we actually won the GE12..." and that too in a double page article in a BN controlled medium. Kudos to those brave enough to print DSAI's views. Since it was a Q&#38;A, it must have been pretty close to verbatim, meaning no hanky-panky. Now, even as he 'is quiet,' the EYE is popping up in some rather interesting places. 

Oooooh, the by-election for DSAI to march into the Parliament is happening soon - I hope it will be in my constituency. I sure hope so. I would love to put that 'X' ONE MORE TIME against the tottering DACING. And the reason as I cross the box? - here's the  'X' once again against Kerishamuddin, if nothing else. And I am hoping he is stupid enough to repeat his keris act again in the next UMNO GA. Then, we will know for sure that for UMNO, point is made but...not taken now, was not taken before and will not ever be taken.

So, Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim for Prime Minister Now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooh, yes, DSAI is uncharacteristerically quiet, isn&#8217;t he? But then, while he hasn&#8217;t made too many statements, the ones he chose to make are rather telling, like &#8220;&#8230;we actually won the GE12&#8230;&#8221; and that too in a double page article in a BN controlled medium. Kudos to those brave enough to print DSAI&#8217;s views. Since it was a Q&amp;A, it must have been pretty close to verbatim, meaning no hanky-panky. Now, even as he &#8216;is quiet,&#8217; the EYE is popping up in some rather interesting places. </p>
<p>Oooooh, the by-election for DSAI to march into the Parliament is happening soon - I hope it will be in my constituency. I sure hope so. I would love to put that &#8216;X&#8217; ONE MORE TIME against the tottering DACING. And the reason as I cross the box? - here&#8217;s the  &#8216;X&#8217; once again against Kerishamuddin, if nothing else. And I am hoping he is stupid enough to repeat his keris act again in the next UMNO GA. Then, we will know for sure that for UMNO, point is made but&#8230;not taken now, was not taken before and will not ever be taken.</p>
<p>So, Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim for Prime Minister Now!</p>
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		<title>By: citizen86</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-94229</link>
		<dc:creator>citizen86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-94229</guid>
		<description>Badawi if u want to gain the respect and the trust of the people you should not just merely acknowledge the problems faced but take action .... ur a man of full of promises with not much action ... you said you point made and point taken but i think ur more concern of your parties loss and how to overcome that issue as compared to the issues facing the nation as a whole and also i dont understand whats with the double standard practice as your fru team dispatched the bersih and hindraf rally without mercy and ur son in law kera jantan was acting like a hero in front of the american embassy and no action was taken against him and also what about ur umnoputras protesting in penang ?? shouldnt you throw them into isa as well since u mentioned that " there has never been a peaceful protest"... i think despite mahatirs flaws he at least brought about lot of positive developments and badawi im sad to say ur cabinet has failed us miserably and also i would like to thank all opposition leaders esp sir lim kit siang,karpal singh,manoharan,anwar and all those who stood up against the tyranny of the federal government thank you very much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Badawi if u want to gain the respect and the trust of the people you should not just merely acknowledge the problems faced but take action &#8230;. ur a man of full of promises with not much action &#8230; you said you point made and point taken but i think ur more concern of your parties loss and how to overcome that issue as compared to the issues facing the nation as a whole and also i dont understand whats with the double standard practice as your fru team dispatched the bersih and hindraf rally without mercy and ur son in law kera jantan was acting like a hero in front of the american embassy and no action was taken against him and also what about ur umnoputras protesting in penang ?? shouldnt you throw them into isa as well since u mentioned that &#8221; there has never been a peaceful protest&#8221;&#8230; i think despite mahatirs flaws he at least brought about lot of positive developments and badawi im sad to say ur cabinet has failed us miserably and also i would like to thank all opposition leaders esp sir lim kit siang,karpal singh,manoharan,anwar and all those who stood up against the tyranny of the federal government thank you very much</p>
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		<title>By: citizen86</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-94228</link>
		<dc:creator>citizen86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-94228</guid>
		<description>I think abdullah badawi should just resign he and umno has done alot of damage to the countries image although i do agree cant blame badawi totally cz these disease of corruption started during mahatirs time but badawi if barisan wants to be strong you have to step down ... as you n your umnoputras has done alot of damage..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think abdullah badawi should just resign he and umno has done alot of damage to the countries image although i do agree cant blame badawi totally cz these disease of corruption started during mahatirs time but badawi if barisan wants to be strong you have to step down &#8230; as you n your umnoputras has done alot of damage..</p>
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		<title>By: mycuntree</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93911</link>
		<dc:creator>mycuntree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 06:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93911</guid>
		<description>Sorry, I forgot to add. Zaid, to maintain his honour should therefore offer his resignation of Minister to the PM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I forgot to add. Zaid, to maintain his honour should therefore offer his resignation of Minister to the PM.</p>
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		<title>By: mycuntree</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93910</link>
		<dc:creator>mycuntree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 06:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93910</guid>
		<description>The rejection of Zaid's proposal by UMNO confirms that the BN goverment has learned nothing from the election. The rejection to freed the H5 continue to reaffirm the power that be will continue with their abuses of their authority. The people must act to remove that authority...... and that means get them out of the goverment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rejection of Zaid&#8217;s proposal by UMNO confirms that the BN goverment has learned nothing from the election. The rejection to freed the H5 continue to reaffirm the power that be will continue with their abuses of their authority. The people must act to remove that authority&#8230;&#8230; and that means get them out of the goverment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93831</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93831</guid>
		<description>///Zaid was at the time the President of the National Muslim Lawyers’ Association, and according to Mahathir, supported the establishment of the Tribunal against Tun Salleh and the others/// - Godfather.

So we note from what Mahathir said. I don’t recall or have any record of this other than and independent of what the Tun selectively remembers, amongst many things that he had apparently forgotten if you believe what he said in the Lingam’s Enquiry!

Yet I won’t discount what Mahathir said as a figment of his imagination.

It is well nigh possible, if not probable, that Zaid then in 1988  supported the establishment of the Tribunal against Tun Salleh and the others for reasons of self interest. If his firm was the first Malaysian firm to get into privatisation work in 1988 for North South Expressway, it would require Tun Daim’s patronage – and Daim being  Mahathir’s crony, would imply Mahathir need to be ingratiated, which accounts why Mahathir remembers this so vividly!

However, I won’t hold this (point of inconsistency) against Zaid if by subsequent conduct and speeches he had “reformed” for the better to argue for an independent Judiciary.

If we were to use a person’s errant actions of the past as a bench mark to judge, doubt and discredit his present good deeds, we can’t move forward. We would also have to doubt Anwar Ibrahim and Khalid Ibrahim who at that time (1988) also supported and ingratiated supreme Mahathir.

On the cause of fighting for restoration of judiciary’s independence which Zaid, Anwar Ibrahim and Khalid Ibrahim all subscribe, the difference is that Zaid is prepared to advocate it publicly whilst still within UMNO’s firmament contrary to comfort of his party whilst the other two are outside the circle of power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>///Zaid was at the time the President of the National Muslim Lawyers’ Association, and according to Mahathir, supported the establishment of the Tribunal against Tun Salleh and the others/// - Godfather.</p>
<p>So we note from what Mahathir said. I don’t recall or have any record of this other than and independent of what the Tun selectively remembers, amongst many things that he had apparently forgotten if you believe what he said in the Lingam’s Enquiry!</p>
<p>Yet I won’t discount what Mahathir said as a figment of his imagination.</p>
<p>It is well nigh possible, if not probable, that Zaid then in 1988  supported the establishment of the Tribunal against Tun Salleh and the others for reasons of self interest. If his firm was the first Malaysian firm to get into privatisation work in 1988 for North South Expressway, it would require Tun Daim’s patronage – and Daim being  Mahathir’s crony, would imply Mahathir need to be ingratiated, which accounts why Mahathir remembers this so vividly!</p>
<p>However, I won’t hold this (point of inconsistency) against Zaid if by subsequent conduct and speeches he had “reformed” for the better to argue for an independent Judiciary.</p>
<p>If we were to use a person’s errant actions of the past as a bench mark to judge, doubt and discredit his present good deeds, we can’t move forward. We would also have to doubt Anwar Ibrahim and Khalid Ibrahim who at that time (1988) also supported and ingratiated supreme Mahathir.</p>
<p>On the cause of fighting for restoration of judiciary’s independence which Zaid, Anwar Ibrahim and Khalid Ibrahim all subscribe, the difference is that Zaid is prepared to advocate it publicly whilst still within UMNO’s firmament contrary to comfort of his party whilst the other two are outside the circle of power.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Tan Kok Hauw</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93797</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Tan Kok Hauw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93797</guid>
		<description>I do not think the current Government will apologise to the judges who were removed by the recalcitrant Mahathir.

It is believed that Zaid Ibrahim will tender his resignation soon as  the current government will not  tolerate his views on the judiciary, ISA and other issues.

It is hoped that the current appeal court president Zaki should not be appointed as Chief justice of Federal court as quoted from Lord Denning, "the justice must not only be done but must be seen to be done".

It is hoped that the president of the Bar council be given the chance to sit in the Cabinet meeting in order to advise the Cabinet ministers on various legal issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not think the current Government will apologise to the judges who were removed by the recalcitrant Mahathir.</p>
<p>It is believed that Zaid Ibrahim will tender his resignation soon as  the current government will not  tolerate his views on the judiciary, ISA and other issues.</p>
<p>It is hoped that the current appeal court president Zaki should not be appointed as Chief justice of Federal court as quoted from Lord Denning, &#8220;the justice must not only be done but must be seen to be done&#8221;.</p>
<p>It is hoped that the president of the Bar council be given the chance to sit in the Cabinet meeting in order to advise the Cabinet ministers on various legal issues.</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93786</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93786</guid>
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		<title>By: LadyGodiva</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93752</link>
		<dc:creator>LadyGodiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93752</guid>
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		<title>By: kingkenny</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93733</link>
		<dc:creator>kingkenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93733</guid>
		<description>We shouldn't be telling BN to do this and to do that to improve whatever they needed to improve on...just let them die naturally or unnaturally

we should just keep on pushing and pushing &#38; concentrate our mind &#38; soul into ousting BN and all the slime in it!!!!!!!!

Increase the pace now PKR-DAP-PAS becoz now is the moment!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We shouldn&#8217;t be telling BN to do this and to do that to improve whatever they needed to improve on&#8230;just let them die naturally or unnaturally</p>
<p>we should just keep on pushing and pushing &amp; concentrate our mind &amp; soul into ousting BN and all the slime in it!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Increase the pace now PKR-DAP-PAS becoz now is the moment!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93718</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93718</guid>
		<description>Jeffrey:

Zaid was at the time the President of the National Muslim Lawyers' Association, and according to Mahathir, supported the establishment of the Tribunal against Tun Salleh and the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey:</p>
<p>Zaid was at the time the President of the National Muslim Lawyers&#8217; Association, and according to Mahathir, supported the establishment of the Tribunal against Tun Salleh and the others.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93701</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93701</guid>
		<description>///Zaid Ibrahim has to explain why he supported the tribunal and the sacking of the Lord President and the Judges then, as alleged by Mahathir in his article appearing in theSun newspaper on 28/3/08!/// - shortie kiasu.

Don't know what Mathathir is talking about. Zaid Ibrahim wasn't a cabinet minister in 1988 when sacking of the Lord President and the Judges took place. In fact Zaid became active in politics after he joined Umno in 2000 way after the judicial crisis in 1988....

That in 1988 he enjoyed patronage from UMNO (Tun Daim) is not disputed though. His firm was the first Malaysian firm to get into privatisation work back in 1988 with its involvement in the North South Expressway.

Zaid is well known for his dissenting views from the government on various issues. Well before the last election, he was not afraid to speak his mind.  

He couldn't convince his colleagues in the new cabinet of Abdullah because some of his colleaques might be with Mahathir in 1988.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>///Zaid Ibrahim has to explain why he supported the tribunal and the sacking of the Lord President and the Judges then, as alleged by Mahathir in his article appearing in theSun newspaper on 28/3/08!/// - shortie kiasu.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know what Mathathir is talking about. Zaid Ibrahim wasn&#8217;t a cabinet minister in 1988 when sacking of the Lord President and the Judges took place. In fact Zaid became active in politics after he joined Umno in 2000 way after the judicial crisis in 1988&#8230;.</p>
<p>That in 1988 he enjoyed patronage from UMNO (Tun Daim) is not disputed though. His firm was the first Malaysian firm to get into privatisation work back in 1988 with its involvement in the North South Expressway.</p>
<p>Zaid is well known for his dissenting views from the government on various issues. Well before the last election, he was not afraid to speak his mind.  </p>
<p>He couldn&#8217;t convince his colleagues in the new cabinet of Abdullah because some of his colleaques might be with Mahathir in 1988.</p>
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		<title>By: shortie kiasu</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93673</link>
		<dc:creator>shortie kiasu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93673</guid>
		<description>Zaid Ibrahim has to explained why he supported the tribunal and the sacking of the Lord President and the Judges then, as alleged by Mahathir in his article appearing in theSun newspaper on 28/3/08! Now he wanted to apologise, so there are many doubters of his sincerity in restoring the confidence and credibility of the judiciary of the country.

His hands were soiled and he has to clean up himself first before he can convince his colleagues in the new cabinet of Abdullah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zaid Ibrahim has to explained why he supported the tribunal and the sacking of the Lord President and the Judges then, as alleged by Mahathir in his article appearing in theSun newspaper on 28/3/08! Now he wanted to apologise, so there are many doubters of his sincerity in restoring the confidence and credibility of the judiciary of the country.</p>
<p>His hands were soiled and he has to clean up himself first before he can convince his colleagues in the new cabinet of Abdullah.</p>
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		<title>By: ric23_my</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93650</link>
		<dc:creator>ric23_my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93650</guid>
		<description>JDoe,

if you play poker game, will u simply throw money with "uncertainty" in your mind whether it will win or lost? Unless the money (selanor ppl interest)  throw is not so important to you.

for sure everyone will try to increase the chances of winning as much as possible.

and to judge whether someone can perform well compared to others, is not based on experience and achivement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JDoe,</p>
<p>if you play poker game, will u simply throw money with &#8220;uncertainty&#8221; in your mind whether it will win or lost? Unless the money (selanor ppl interest)  throw is not so important to you.</p>
<p>for sure everyone will try to increase the chances of winning as much as possible.</p>
<p>and to judge whether someone can perform well compared to others, is not based on experience and achivement?</p>
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		<title>By: JDoe</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93649</link>
		<dc:creator>JDoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93649</guid>
		<description>At least with BR, still got chances in winning this "poker game". With BeeAnn, you are not even invited to the poker table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least with BR, still got chances in winning this &#8220;poker game&#8221;. With BeeAnn, you are not even invited to the poker table.</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93643</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93643</guid>
		<description>If Teng is not satisfied with the exco appointment result he should be ranting or boycott DAP perhaps invite himself some spank from YB LKS. Or perhaps give up join BN, not sure! but the problem is it seems there are some hardcore fan who are upset by the decision simply the other candidates are new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Teng is not satisfied with the exco appointment result he should be ranting or boycott DAP perhaps invite himself some spank from YB LKS. Or perhaps give up join BN, not sure! but the problem is it seems there are some hardcore fan who are upset by the decision simply the other candidates are new.</p>
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		<title>By: ric23_my</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93641</link>
		<dc:creator>ric23_my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lakilompat,

Opposition like DAP won in this election is becoz BeeAnn have too much weaknesses, NOT becoz DAP have good achievements in state governing (as we have no chance to prove it since past 50 years) ...

this is a golden opportunity to convince selangor ppl that they did a right choice. Chances of BeeAnn take over Selangor in next election is very high ... we have only have 4 years short period to perform ...

The formation of Selangor exco line up show that DAP make use of Selangor ppl interest as "chip" to "gamble" for future with "uncertainty" ... u think this is a poker game? If the consequence of this "gamble" is it lost, the ppl is the one who need to pay for it ...

This is not about teng or anyone ... this is about sidelined of potential and senior ppl that can bring ppl towards a brigther future ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lakilompat,</p>
<p>Opposition like DAP won in this election is becoz BeeAnn have too much weaknesses, NOT becoz DAP have good achievements in state governing (as we have no chance to prove it since past 50 years) &#8230;</p>
<p>this is a golden opportunity to convince selangor ppl that they did a right choice. Chances of BeeAnn take over Selangor in next election is very high &#8230; we have only have 4 years short period to perform &#8230;</p>
<p>The formation of Selangor exco line up show that DAP make use of Selangor ppl interest as &#8220;chip&#8221; to &#8220;gamble&#8221; for future with &#8220;uncertainty&#8221; &#8230; u think this is a poker game? If the consequence of this &#8220;gamble&#8221; is it lost, the ppl is the one who need to pay for it &#8230;</p>
<p>This is not about teng or anyone &#8230; this is about sidelined of potential and senior ppl that can bring ppl towards a brigther future &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93637</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93637</guid>
		<description>ric23_my don't be too sure, jus relax and watch the beginning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ric23_my don&#8217;t be too sure, jus relax and watch the beginning.</p>
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		<title>By: ric23_my</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93624</link>
		<dc:creator>ric23_my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93624</guid>
		<description>lakilompat,

Next 4 years, selangor ppl will ask DAP the same question ...

"It takes 4 yrs for a DAP to realize it is important to hear what Rakyat said. I’m wondering is he lost in Disneyland?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lakilompat,</p>
<p>Next 4 years, selangor ppl will ask DAP the same question &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;It takes 4 yrs for a DAP to realize it is important to hear what Rakyat said. I’m wondering is he lost in Disneyland?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93623</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93623</guid>
		<description>It takes 4 yrs for a PM to realize it is important to hear what Rakyat said. I'm wondering is he lost in Disneyland?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It takes 4 yrs for a PM to realize it is important to hear what Rakyat said. I&#8217;m wondering is he lost in Disneyland?</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93621</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93621</guid>
		<description>"I believe Zaid is sincere in trying to reform our judiciary." Jeffrey 

I believe we should not come to this conclusion too quickly.  I have seen many who say things very differently before holding a cabinet position but change completely after being appointed to a cabinet position.  My observation is simple. Within the UMNO establishment, those holding positions are usually supportive of the present leadership. Those going against the present leadership are usually those "has been" politicians or those who were removed from or lost their positions recently.  We shall judge the true intent of a leader from what he/she does, not what he/she says.  This principle should be similarly applied to those from PKR, DAP and PAS who are now holding government positions.  

Another issue we ought to ask concerning the appointment of Zaid and Sharir is whether UMNO as a political party is still capable of reform from within.  Has UMNO reached a point of no return? If so, can good men (assuming they are good, but I am not sure at this stage) doing the right things in a wrong political party?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I believe Zaid is sincere in trying to reform our judiciary.&#8221; Jeffrey </p>
<p>I believe we should not come to this conclusion too quickly.  I have seen many who say things very differently before holding a cabinet position but change completely after being appointed to a cabinet position.  My observation is simple. Within the UMNO establishment, those holding positions are usually supportive of the present leadership. Those going against the present leadership are usually those &#8220;has been&#8221; politicians or those who were removed from or lost their positions recently.  We shall judge the true intent of a leader from what he/she does, not what he/she says.  This principle should be similarly applied to those from PKR, DAP and PAS who are now holding government positions.  </p>
<p>Another issue we ought to ask concerning the appointment of Zaid and Sharir is whether UMNO as a political party is still capable of reform from within.  Has UMNO reached a point of no return? If so, can good men (assuming they are good, but I am not sure at this stage) doing the right things in a wrong political party?</p>
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		<title>By: clear conscience</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93608</link>
		<dc:creator>clear conscience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93608</guid>
		<description>I agree with uncle LKS that the government of Abdullah is just a shadow of what we can deem as "Point not heard &#38; Point not taken". I say this based on my personal experience with the PM.

The PM had put up his brave website, the WarkahUntukPM (www.warkahuntukpm.com) where he had invited all Malaysians to write to him.

Just for the information of all here, I had written to the PM on 20th March 2008 via this website wherein I had highlighted to him the problem explicitly mentioned in my earlier emails sent to him and the Ketua Kementerian Keselamatan Dalam Negeri (Tan Sri Abdul Aziz) in August 2007. Till to-date from 20th March 2008, the administrator of the WarkahuntukPM website is either not functioning or if ever, it must be at snail-mail pace as no email reply  to my whistle-blowing act was forthcoming nor any form of acknowledgment pertaining to that matter (as highlighted in my August 2007 emails) is being looked into.

The question here is:-
i) Is the PM saying one thing and doing anything. On one hand, he said, " Point noted &#38; Point taken",
ii) Is the www.warkahuntukpm.com website merely an election gimmick (since it was launched on 1 March 2008) prioir to PRU12 on 8 March 2008, so much so it is now probably not functioning at all.

I had already resigned to the fact that my whistle blowing act would land on the deaf ears of the PM as I am convinced that the answer to the above (i) &#38; (ii) would just be another chapter of disappointment to all Malaysians.

Let's just take note of this. How this website (www.warkahuntukpm.com) would help us Malaysians be taken note of &#38; heard. 

If at all you need to test it, please try by all means to pose your comments or requests to the PM......just see for yourself what response would you receive. I gues you will be just another me.

LKS foresees many things far ahead by his above captioned headline here. I totally agree with uncle LKS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with uncle LKS that the government of Abdullah is just a shadow of what we can deem as &#8220;Point not heard &amp; Point not taken&#8221;. I say this based on my personal experience with the PM.</p>
<p>The PM had put up his brave website, the WarkahUntukPM (www.warkahuntukpm.com) where he had invited all Malaysians to write to him.</p>
<p>Just for the information of all here, I had written to the PM on 20th March 2008 via this website wherein I had highlighted to him the problem explicitly mentioned in my earlier emails sent to him and the Ketua Kementerian Keselamatan Dalam Negeri (Tan Sri Abdul Aziz) in August 2007. Till to-date from 20th March 2008, the administrator of the WarkahuntukPM website is either not functioning or if ever, it must be at snail-mail pace as no email reply  to my whistle-blowing act was forthcoming nor any form of acknowledgment pertaining to that matter (as highlighted in my August 2007 emails) is being looked into.</p>
<p>The question here is:-<br />
i) Is the PM saying one thing and doing anything. On one hand, he said, &#8221; Point noted &amp; Point taken&#8221;,<br />
ii) Is the <a href="http://www.warkahuntukpm.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.warkahuntukpm.com</a> website merely an election gimmick (since it was launched on 1 March 2008) prioir to PRU12 on 8 March 2008, so much so it is now probably not functioning at all.</p>
<p>I had already resigned to the fact that my whistle blowing act would land on the deaf ears of the PM as I am convinced that the answer to the above (i) &amp; (ii) would just be another chapter of disappointment to all Malaysians.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just take note of this. How this website (www.warkahuntukpm.com) would help us Malaysians be taken note of &amp; heard. </p>
<p>If at all you need to test it, please try by all means to pose your comments or requests to the PM&#8230;&#8230;just see for yourself what response would you receive. I gues you will be just another me.</p>
<p>LKS foresees many things far ahead by his above captioned headline here. I totally agree with uncle LKS</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93599</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93599</guid>
		<description>Typo omission in preceding posting at 07: 13.45 
"  .....further he could not control certain cabinet appointees like Ghapur Salleh from NOT taking deputy ministerially positions..."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo omission in preceding posting at 07: 13.45<br />
&#8221;  &#8230;..further he could not control certain cabinet appointees like Ghapur Salleh from NOT taking deputy ministerially positions&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93597</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93597</guid>
		<description>However to the “many people”, who according to Zaid, “are more experienced and who are wiser than me. So we have to wait”, the question is whether there is “time to wait”.

Politicians do not turn down ministerial positions for nothing. Something is evidently brewing and afoot especially when main protagonist DSAI has been uncharacteristically quiet of late.

If there were going to occur a significant crossing over by BN’s MPs that causes the BN to lose command of majority in Dewan Rakyat in a time not too long from now, and ensuing from that, an Opposition backed vote of no confidence is successfully passed    against the PM representing the BN government, what would be the scenario then?

One scenario is that the King could dissolve parliament the second to usher in the next 13th General Election. 

The BN showing no will to reform after the 12th GE would, in line with the momentum of decline of popularity evinced in the 12th GE, llikely be trounced even more this time around, returning to parliament as a full fledged opposition coalition. 

This is not something many within BN would relish or could afford because of vested interests and existing crony deals yet uncompleted and inchoate and the dire prospects of witch hunt when BR comes to power!

The real issue now is no more just whether the present cabinet has “taken well or not the point made” by voters during the 12th General Election. 

The real issue is, if there were no immediate genuine reform, whether there is really still this same cabinet a few months down road for any point to be well taken, if at all! :) 

For the first time, time is of the essence running against an imploding incumbent ruling coalition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However to the “many people”, who according to Zaid, “are more experienced and who are wiser than me. So we have to wait”, the question is whether there is “time to wait”.</p>
<p>Politicians do not turn down ministerial positions for nothing. Something is evidently brewing and afoot especially when main protagonist DSAI has been uncharacteristically quiet of late.</p>
<p>If there were going to occur a significant crossing over by BN’s MPs that causes the BN to lose command of majority in Dewan Rakyat in a time not too long from now, and ensuing from that, an Opposition backed vote of no confidence is successfully passed    against the PM representing the BN government, what would be the scenario then?</p>
<p>One scenario is that the King could dissolve parliament the second to usher in the next 13th General Election. </p>
<p>The BN showing no will to reform after the 12th GE would, in line with the momentum of decline of popularity evinced in the 12th GE, llikely be trounced even more this time around, returning to parliament as a full fledged opposition coalition. </p>
<p>This is not something many within BN would relish or could afford because of vested interests and existing crony deals yet uncompleted and inchoate and the dire prospects of witch hunt when BR comes to power!</p>
<p>The real issue now is no more just whether the present cabinet has “taken well or not the point made” by voters during the 12th General Election. </p>
<p>The real issue is, if there were no immediate genuine reform, whether there is really still this same cabinet a few months down road for any point to be well taken, if at all! <img src='http://blog.limkitsiang.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>For the first time, time is of the essence running against an imploding incumbent ruling coalition.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93594</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93594</guid>
		<description>"We are not in the business of cheating the people." AAB, 2005.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We are not in the business of cheating the people.&#8221; AAB, 2005.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93591</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93591</guid>
		<description>Zaid’s first proposal of an apology by the government for the 1988 judicial crisis has been criticized by United Nations special rapporteur Param Cumaraswamy has being “not sufficient to induce real reform”. Param said Zaid must understand that punitive measures must be taken against the perpetrators. “Glossing over the events of 1988 by a mere apology from the present government will be seen as subscribing to impunity of people in high places thereby defeating the very essence of accountability in public administration," he added.

In Zaid’s defence I would say that whilst it is true that mere apology is “not sufficient to induce real reform”, there is also nothing to suggest that a mere apology is the last and only step Zaid would do. 

It is after all just the beginning, and for starters it is necessary to get the present administration to admit and apologise for the wrong that had been done to Salleh Abbas and other judges in 1988 before other measures such as instituting an independent judicial commission for the appointment of judges can be proceeded upon. It is first things first. How does one expect Zaid to immediately do more when even the first token gesture of apology is already resisted by his cabinet colleagues as hinted by Zaid’s remarks, “I am  afraid the view has yet to be considered. “There are many people who are more experienced and who are wiser than me. So we have to wait.”

Now Zaid can’t push his agenda (of judicial reform) through unless his patron the premier could give him strong backing relative to detractors. 

Right now the patron himself is fighting for political survival. He could not prevail on Terengganu’s Ruler to accept Idris Jusoh as Terengganu’s MB, indeed it was the other way around he had to accept palace-backed Ahmad Said as MB; he also could not prevail on UMNO Supreme Council to agree deferring party polls (seen as offering avenues of leadership challenge by Ku Li) to next year, and further he could not control certain cabinet appointees like Ghapur Salleh from taking deputy ministerially positions, apparently for real reasons undisclosed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zaid’s first proposal of an apology by the government for the 1988 judicial crisis has been criticized by United Nations special rapporteur Param Cumaraswamy has being “not sufficient to induce real reform”. Param said Zaid must understand that punitive measures must be taken against the perpetrators. “Glossing over the events of 1988 by a mere apology from the present government will be seen as subscribing to impunity of people in high places thereby defeating the very essence of accountability in public administration,&#8221; he added.</p>
<p>In Zaid’s defence I would say that whilst it is true that mere apology is “not sufficient to induce real reform”, there is also nothing to suggest that a mere apology is the last and only step Zaid would do. </p>
<p>It is after all just the beginning, and for starters it is necessary to get the present administration to admit and apologise for the wrong that had been done to Salleh Abbas and other judges in 1988 before other measures such as instituting an independent judicial commission for the appointment of judges can be proceeded upon. It is first things first. How does one expect Zaid to immediately do more when even the first token gesture of apology is already resisted by his cabinet colleagues as hinted by Zaid’s remarks, “I am  afraid the view has yet to be considered. “There are many people who are more experienced and who are wiser than me. So we have to wait.”</p>
<p>Now Zaid can’t push his agenda (of judicial reform) through unless his patron the premier could give him strong backing relative to detractors. </p>
<p>Right now the patron himself is fighting for political survival. He could not prevail on Terengganu’s Ruler to accept Idris Jusoh as Terengganu’s MB, indeed it was the other way around he had to accept palace-backed Ahmad Said as MB; he also could not prevail on UMNO Supreme Council to agree deferring party polls (seen as offering avenues of leadership challenge by Ku Li) to next year, and further he could not control certain cabinet appointees like Ghapur Salleh from taking deputy ministerially positions, apparently for real reasons undisclosed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93585</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93585</guid>
		<description>"....Although credit ought to be given for his appointment of Zaid, fact remains it was an appointment after – and not before - the debacle of 12th GE...."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;.Although credit ought to be given for his appointment of Zaid, fact remains it was an appointment after – and not before - the debacle of 12th GE&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93584</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93584</guid>
		<description>I believe Zaid is sincere in trying to reform our judiciary. The reason for belief is based on his public advocacy in media (NST) and public forum (eg debate between him and Nazri organized by Bar Council) for such reform during the time before 12th GE, when he was just a BN MP for Kota Bharu and when he knew or ought to know that such activism to reform the judiciary would be viewed with suspicion and disapproval by the warlords and power brokers within the ruling coalition and his party. Then he had nothing to gain from such outspokenness. He risked his prospects of rising within UMNO’s hierarchy by such public advocacy of judicial reform. At that he had absolutely nothing to gain and much to lose from such public advocacy of judicial reform. After all he was then doing quite well from patronage of being an UMNO lieutenant in PAS territory. Indeed he was dropped from BN’s candidate list in the last GE without knowing why. The situation is quite different as regards premier AAB. Although credit ought to be given for his appointment of Zaid, fact remains it was an appointment was after – and not be - the debacle of 12th GE. So the issue of whether there was real commitment to judicial reform, in his case, is open to question whether, there were real commitment evinced in appointing Zaid or just a mere cosmetic gesture to assuage public disapproval evident from the recent  results to salvage BN’s changing political fortunes for the worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Zaid is sincere in trying to reform our judiciary. The reason for belief is based on his public advocacy in media (NST) and public forum (eg debate between him and Nazri organized by Bar Council) for such reform during the time before 12th GE, when he was just a BN MP for Kota Bharu and when he knew or ought to know that such activism to reform the judiciary would be viewed with suspicion and disapproval by the warlords and power brokers within the ruling coalition and his party. Then he had nothing to gain from such outspokenness. He risked his prospects of rising within UMNO’s hierarchy by such public advocacy of judicial reform. At that he had absolutely nothing to gain and much to lose from such public advocacy of judicial reform. After all he was then doing quite well from patronage of being an UMNO lieutenant in PAS territory. Indeed he was dropped from BN’s candidate list in the last GE without knowing why. The situation is quite different as regards premier AAB. Although credit ought to be given for his appointment of Zaid, fact remains it was an appointment was after – and not be - the debacle of 12th GE. So the issue of whether there was real commitment to judicial reform, in his case, is open to question whether, there were real commitment evinced in appointing Zaid or just a mere cosmetic gesture to assuage public disapproval evident from the recent  results to salvage BN’s changing political fortunes for the worse.</p>
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		<title>By: pwcheng</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93559</link>
		<dc:creator>pwcheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93559</guid>
		<description>mycroft Says:
Today at 01: 20.41 (23 minutes ago) 

I can assure you that your question won't arise as the contagion effect slithers down to the present PM and revealed only via the LINGAM Tape. Otherwise it will be business as usual but after the tape, what is going to happen is any body's guess as it is no easy to take away something what people had enjoyed for so long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mycroft Says:<br />
Today at 01: 20.41 (23 minutes ago) </p>
<p>I can assure you that your question won&#8217;t arise as the contagion effect slithers down to the present PM and revealed only via the LINGAM Tape. Otherwise it will be business as usual but after the tape, what is going to happen is any body&#8217;s guess as it is no easy to take away something what people had enjoyed for so long.</p>
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		<title>By: pwcheng</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93556</link>
		<dc:creator>pwcheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93556</guid>
		<description>Zaid, the above message is also from a wise old man. Quit while the going is still good and not quit when your “maruah” is already down the drain.
I can more or less assure you, you will be hitting concrete walls and hard rocks at every corner you turn because what is good for the rakyat and the people is normally not good for your friends in the BN.
•	Bring in Judiciary with integrity: Many will feel miserable without hard core protection
•	Eradicate corruption: Many will cry as there is no more easy money
•	Bring in transparency: Many will be feeling the heat as they have to “strip naked”.
•	Bring in accountability: Many will be shivering in fear as they may be out of a job.
•	Bring in integrity: This is a whole new world of experience for many and they will be at a lost of what to do.

This is the pathetic scenario of BN government and it is a Herculean task for anybody to remedy the malaise and worst still there are still many “wise men” in in UMNO. 

THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN BRING CHANGES IS TO CHANGE THOSE WISE MEN FIRST.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zaid, the above message is also from a wise old man. Quit while the going is still good and not quit when your “maruah” is already down the drain.<br />
I can more or less assure you, you will be hitting concrete walls and hard rocks at every corner you turn because what is good for the rakyat and the people is normally not good for your friends in the BN.<br />
•	Bring in Judiciary with integrity: Many will feel miserable without hard core protection<br />
•	Eradicate corruption: Many will cry as there is no more easy money<br />
•	Bring in transparency: Many will be feeling the heat as they have to “strip naked”.<br />
•	Bring in accountability: Many will be shivering in fear as they may be out of a job.<br />
•	Bring in integrity: This is a whole new world of experience for many and they will be at a lost of what to do.</p>
<p>This is the pathetic scenario of BN government and it is a Herculean task for anybody to remedy the malaise and worst still there are still many “wise men” in in UMNO. </p>
<p>THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN BRING CHANGES IS TO CHANGE THOSE WISE MEN FIRST.</p>
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		<title>By: mycroft</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93554</link>
		<dc:creator>mycroft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93554</guid>
		<description>Just a question here. If the govt. does issue an apology for the sacking of Tun Salleh Abas and the other judges, does it mean that the decision to sack them was wrong? If so, does it then mean that the decisions of the Supreme/Federal Court since 1988 would be thrown into question over that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a question here. If the govt. does issue an apology for the sacking of Tun Salleh Abas and the other judges, does it mean that the decision to sack them was wrong? If so, does it then mean that the decisions of the Supreme/Federal Court since 1988 would be thrown into question over that?</p>
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		<title>By: pwcheng</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93552</link>
		<dc:creator>pwcheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93552</guid>
		<description>Zaid, the above message is also from a wise old man. Quit while the going is still good and not quit when your "maruah" is already down the drain. 
  I can more or less assure you, you will be hitting concrete walls and hard rocks at every corner you turn because what is good for the rakyat and the people is normally not good for your friends in the BN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zaid, the above message is also from a wise old man. Quit while the going is still good and not quit when your &#8220;maruah&#8221; is already down the drain.<br />
  I can more or less assure you, you will be hitting concrete walls and hard rocks at every corner you turn because what is good for the rakyat and the people is normally not good for your friends in the BN.</p>
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		<title>By: pwcheng</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93551</link>
		<dc:creator>pwcheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93551</guid>
		<description>“ Looks like there are plenty of euphoria especially from the legal fraternity after the appointment of Zaid Ibrahim as Minister in charge of legal and judicial reforms. Honestly I would like to put a brake on all these euphoria and ecstasy. Only time can tell as I am not sure whether he is put there to reform or to be reformed. Judging from precedents, in UMNO more often than not those who enter the “kandang” get reformed rather than making reforms. The crack of the whip will make them shiver and loose their bearing.  I have seen many of his predecessors, who sounded so promising but eventually became a lamb and just followed the flock. If anybody can remember, Shahidan was one of them, outspoken when he was an ordinary MP, especially as a chairman of the backbenchers club. So is Shahrir but got reformed in the “one eye Jack” case. I really respected him (Shahrir) at one time and thought that he can deliver some changes for the betterment of the rakyat, but I am not so correct. His statement that he refused a minister post sometime ago does not really convince me now judging from his euphoria and statements made after he was offered a Minister post. Normally a person who has the conviction  to decline but later changed his/her mind to accept does not behave that way, especially he only made that statement less than 2 yrs ago.  

     So let’s keep that euphoria under wrap first until we really see the transformation with our own eyes. Do not just get caught up on what he does or say outside. To be honest I had profound respect for Zaid Ibrahim and will continue with my respect until proven wrong. To this I hope he will lend credibility by making all the necessary arrangements so that there will be no conflict of interests with his Legal firm.

     Till then I wish him all the best in his appointment as a Minister and hope that he will fulfill what the people and the country desire most, a sound and fair judiciary system which is a must for any democratic country to move forward and to be well respected internationally”.

This above is exactly what I had put in this blog about a 2 weeks ago and repeated last week. I have years of experience observing the antics of BN, I think I am not too far away to have my prediction fulfilled. Give 6 months to a year and he will be totally reformed instead of reforming.  He will be hitting himself against a concrete wall and those wise men will finally tell him you are not so wise in coming through the back door.
Anyway one consolation is that he had resigned from his Company as what I had expected him to do as cited in my second paragraph. 
 
Good Luck Joe, do not knock your head too hard as we might need your brain in the BR and that is where you will stand at par with all the wise men and not let the wise men cow you as in BN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“ Looks like there are plenty of euphoria especially from the legal fraternity after the appointment of Zaid Ibrahim as Minister in charge of legal and judicial reforms. Honestly I would like to put a brake on all these euphoria and ecstasy. Only time can tell as I am not sure whether he is put there to reform or to be reformed. Judging from precedents, in UMNO more often than not those who enter the “kandang” get reformed rather than making reforms. The crack of the whip will make them shiver and loose their bearing.  I have seen many of his predecessors, who sounded so promising but eventually became a lamb and just followed the flock. If anybody can remember, Shahidan was one of them, outspoken when he was an ordinary MP, especially as a chairman of the backbenchers club. So is Shahrir but got reformed in the “one eye Jack” case. I really respected him (Shahrir) at one time and thought that he can deliver some changes for the betterment of the rakyat, but I am not so correct. His statement that he refused a minister post sometime ago does not really convince me now judging from his euphoria and statements made after he was offered a Minister post. Normally a person who has the conviction  to decline but later changed his/her mind to accept does not behave that way, especially he only made that statement less than 2 yrs ago.  </p>
<p>     So let’s keep that euphoria under wrap first until we really see the transformation with our own eyes. Do not just get caught up on what he does or say outside. To be honest I had profound respect for Zaid Ibrahim and will continue with my respect until proven wrong. To this I hope he will lend credibility by making all the necessary arrangements so that there will be no conflict of interests with his Legal firm.</p>
<p>     Till then I wish him all the best in his appointment as a Minister and hope that he will fulfill what the people and the country desire most, a sound and fair judiciary system which is a must for any democratic country to move forward and to be well respected internationally”.</p>
<p>This above is exactly what I had put in this blog about a 2 weeks ago and repeated last week. I have years of experience observing the antics of BN, I think I am not too far away to have my prediction fulfilled. Give 6 months to a year and he will be totally reformed instead of reforming.  He will be hitting himself against a concrete wall and those wise men will finally tell him you are not so wise in coming through the back door.<br />
Anyway one consolation is that he had resigned from his Company as what I had expected him to do as cited in my second paragraph. </p>
<p>Good Luck Joe, do not knock your head too hard as we might need your brain in the BR and that is where you will stand at par with all the wise men and not let the wise men cow you as in BN.</p>
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		<title>By: StevePCH</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93542</link>
		<dc:creator>StevePCH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93542</guid>
		<description>I think Zaid will have to wait until he become Opposition first before BN apologizes.
The EGOism in BN will never allow past mistakes admitted.
At least Zaid in his " personal " capacity admitted the gross injustice made.
He would then get the cabinet's approval .... wow ... going through Krismudin , Najib , AAB then Mike Tyson and finally Khairy's approval. OMG impossible lei.
Mat Tyson as KJ's proxy is a BIG mistake. everyone can see through it.
The crack in UMNO is getting wider and I think we can really forget about what AAB's talking about bcos, soon he'll be history.
Point went in through right ear and went out through the left one.
Bye Bye AAB you will be retiring soon or forced to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Zaid will have to wait until he become Opposition first before BN apologizes.<br />
The EGOism in BN will never allow past mistakes admitted.<br />
At least Zaid in his &#8221; personal &#8221; capacity admitted the gross injustice made.<br />
He would then get the cabinet&#8217;s approval &#8230;. wow &#8230; going through Krismudin , Najib , AAB then Mike Tyson and finally Khairy&#8217;s approval. OMG impossible lei.<br />
Mat Tyson as KJ&#8217;s proxy is a BIG mistake. everyone can see through it.<br />
The crack in UMNO is getting wider and I think we can really forget about what AAB&#8217;s talking about bcos, soon he&#8217;ll be history.<br />
Point went in through right ear and went out through the left one.<br />
Bye Bye AAB you will be retiring soon or forced to.</p>
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		<title>By: kickbutt</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93535</link>
		<dc:creator>kickbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93535</guid>
		<description>"I think most of us are not capable of “learning” anything when it suits us!" limkamput


What he is really saying is that he wants you to understand that  you fellas are too dumb, would say anything to suit your case and that he alone knows how to think and knows what is best! Expect him to take you to task each time he thinks you fall out of line i.e. his line!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think most of us are not capable of “learning” anything when it suits us!&#8221; limkamput</p>
<p>What he is really saying is that he wants you to understand that  you fellas are too dumb, would say anything to suit your case and that he alone knows how to think and knows what is best! Expect him to take you to task each time he thinks you fall out of line i.e. his line!</p>
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		<title>By: Jamesy</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93534</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93534</guid>
		<description>"All in all, it is a bad start for the second Abdullah Cabinet despite the claim of the Prime Minister that he has heard the “message” of the people in the March 8 political tsunami - that “Point made and point taken”. Clearly, the point made by Malaysian voters in the March 8 general election has still to be “taken” by the Prime Minister and his Cabinet."

Oh yes, that's very true.

Datuk Zaid,

What about the repeal and abolishment of the Internal Security Act(ISA)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All in all, it is a bad start for the second Abdullah Cabinet despite the claim of the Prime Minister that he has heard the “message” of the people in the March 8 political tsunami - that “Point made and point taken”. Clearly, the point made by Malaysian voters in the March 8 general election has still to be “taken” by the Prime Minister and his Cabinet.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh yes, that&#8217;s very true.</p>
<p>Datuk Zaid,</p>
<p>What about the repeal and abolishment of the Internal Security Act(ISA)?</p>
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		<title>By: ppsbmy</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93510</link>
		<dc:creator>ppsbmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93510</guid>
		<description>dollah should reshuffle his cabinet:

defense minister : hishamuddin hussein
tourism : najib (attract space tourist)
health : khir toyo (promote tempe)
housing : zakaria deros (phantom voter can come , he also can come back)
finance : muhd muhd taib - experience in dealing with cash
youth : rafidah - she can bring along her grandchildren
women, family : ka ting &#38; ka chuan
education : muhd muhd taib - fast track to learning english</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dollah should reshuffle his cabinet:</p>
<p>defense minister : hishamuddin hussein<br />
tourism : najib (attract space tourist)<br />
health : khir toyo (promote tempe)<br />
housing : zakaria deros (phantom voter can come , he also can come back)<br />
finance : muhd muhd taib - experience in dealing with cash<br />
youth : rafidah - she can bring along her grandchildren<br />
women, family : ka ting &amp; ka chuan<br />
education : muhd muhd taib - fast track to learning english</p>
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		<title>By: Damocles</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93505</link>
		<dc:creator>Damocles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93505</guid>
		<description>Don't waste any more time on what the PM will do or will not do. He's beyond redemption!
The opposition just go on and do a wonderful job and they can be assured of blowing the BN away in the next General Election.
That's what we all want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t waste any more time on what the PM will do or will not do. He&#8217;s beyond redemption!<br />
The opposition just go on and do a wonderful job and they can be assured of blowing the BN away in the next General Election.<br />
That&#8217;s what we all want.</p>
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		<title>By: malaysiaunited</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93494</link>
		<dc:creator>malaysiaunited</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93494</guid>
		<description>Everyone seems to think Getting Badawi out of the way will solve all our problems! What is the immediate/near term solution to our problems? I guess ii's easy to destroy a building in one day but to built a new one takes many days if not months. Lets see what is the realistic alternative? We are partly fortunate to express somuch due to the fact Badawi has been more liberal and loose on certain aspects which is why Anwar can canvass for the BR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone seems to think Getting Badawi out of the way will solve all our problems! What is the immediate/near term solution to our problems? I guess ii&#8217;s easy to destroy a building in one day but to built a new one takes many days if not months. Lets see what is the realistic alternative? We are partly fortunate to express somuch due to the fact Badawi has been more liberal and loose on certain aspects which is why Anwar can canvass for the BR.</p>
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		<title>By: justice_fighter</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93493</link>
		<dc:creator>justice_fighter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93493</guid>
		<description>“Point made and point taken” means "I can't wait to sleep now" - sleepy Bohongwi. PERIOD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Point made and point taken” means &#8220;I can&#8217;t wait to sleep now&#8221; - sleepy Bohongwi. PERIOD.</p>
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		<title>By: ric23_my</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93474</link>
		<dc:creator>ric23_my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93474</guid>
		<description>limkamput,

i will keep asking everyday in every thread for that issue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>limkamput,</p>
<p>i will keep asking everyday in every thread for that issue</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93473</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93473</guid>
		<description>Another signal that nothing has been learnt by the BN thieves .......

Do we know what exactly transpired btw Khalid and the Sultan of Selangor with regard to appointment of DMB and Excos? Do we get to read what exactly is the situation/position of Teng in DAP and the Selangor state government other than Sdr. Lim statement here?  

I think most of us are not capable of "learning" anything when it suits us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another signal that nothing has been learnt by the BN thieves &#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Do we know what exactly transpired btw Khalid and the Sultan of Selangor with regard to appointment of DMB and Excos? Do we get to read what exactly is the situation/position of Teng in DAP and the Selangor state government other than Sdr. Lim statement here?  </p>
<p>I think most of us are not capable of &#8220;learning&#8221; anything when it suits us!</p>
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		<title>By: Malaysian For Equality</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93461</link>
		<dc:creator>Malaysian For Equality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93461</guid>
		<description>Zaid should resign before his credibility is damaged by UMNO. When power and billions are at stake, who is Zaid to dictate anything? It would be sad if becomes another Chandra Muzzafar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zaid should resign before his credibility is damaged by UMNO. When power and billions are at stake, who is Zaid to dictate anything? It would be sad if becomes another Chandra Muzzafar.</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93416</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93416</guid>
		<description>Ever wonder why Johorean scared to vote for opposition.

Look here (2007)

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k278/v-k0/UMNOBlacklist.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever wonder why Johorean scared to vote for opposition.</p>
<p>Look here (2007)</p>
<p><a href="http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k278/v-k0/UMNOBlacklist.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k278/v-k0/UMNOBlacklist.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93409</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93409</guid>
		<description>Another signal that nothing has been learnt by the BN thieves is that the muzzling of the mainstream press continues to this day.  No one is prepared to report on what has transpired between Badawi and DYMM Agong on the Trengganu MB issue.  Isn't this something of national interest ?  The press played up the Perak MB issue but is totally quiet on the Trengganu MB issue.  The rakyat knows the double standards applied, so this is another black eye in the administration of Abdullah Badawi.

Point made, point taken, the Badawi goes to sleep as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another signal that nothing has been learnt by the BN thieves is that the muzzling of the mainstream press continues to this day.  No one is prepared to report on what has transpired between Badawi and DYMM Agong on the Trengganu MB issue.  Isn&#8217;t this something of national interest ?  The press played up the Perak MB issue but is totally quiet on the Trengganu MB issue.  The rakyat knows the double standards applied, so this is another black eye in the administration of Abdullah Badawi.</p>
<p>Point made, point taken, the Badawi goes to sleep as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93406</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/second-abdullah-cabinet-no-signs-of-point-made-and-point-taken/#comment-93406</guid>
		<description>Zaid is now backpedalling on his initial position, which was vague anyway, but sounded good when it came from a new kid on the block. We wanted to believe Zaid so desperately that we essentially "ignored" the vagueness of his initial comments.  Some even hailed him as a savior !

Now the true colours of Badawi's cabinet are exposed for all to see.  Zaid has to produce a "first" paper but before he produces this, he needs to see the findings of the IC on the Lingam videotape case.  Then the cabinet has to debate on the "first" paper, so that someone presumably will work on the "second" paper.  

Already, Zaid has said that his personal opinion is that the government should apologise to the victims of the 1988 judiciary fiasco.  Who are the victims ?  Apparently, Zaid ignored the fact that we are all victims - having had to live through 20 years of a tainted judiciary.  Who are the perpetrators of the crime then ?  The then AG, and the former PM figure prominently, but then Zaid now says that the previous administration is "gone", so bringing the perpetrators of this heinous crime to book would not be forthcoming.  What about people like Badawi, Nazri, Syed Hamid, et al, who were members of that administration ?  Even if they claim ignorance, there must be an inquiry to ascertain who committed the crimes in 1988.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zaid is now backpedalling on his initial position, which was vague anyway, but sounded good when it came from a new kid on the block. We wanted to believe Zaid so desperately that we essentially &#8220;ignored&#8221; the vagueness of his initial comments.  Some even hailed him as a savior !</p>
<p>Now the true colours of Badawi&#8217;s cabinet are exposed for all to see.  Zaid has to produce a &#8220;first&#8221; paper but before he produces this, he needs to see the findings of the IC on the Lingam videotape case.  Then the cabinet has to debate on the &#8220;first&#8221; paper, so that someone presumably will work on the &#8220;second&#8221; paper.  </p>
<p>Already, Zaid has said that his personal opinion is that the government should apologise to the victims of the 1988 judiciary fiasco.  Who are the victims ?  Apparently, Zaid ignored the fact that we are all victims - having had to live through 20 years of a tainted judiciary.  Who are the perpetrators of the crime then ?  The then AG, and the former PM figure prominently, but then Zaid now says that the previous administration is &#8220;gone&#8221;, so bringing the perpetrators of this heinous crime to book would not be forthcoming.  What about people like Badawi, Nazri, Syed Hamid, et al, who were members of that administration ?  Even if they claim ignorance, there must be an inquiry to ascertain who committed the crimes in 1988.</p>
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		<title>By: year of snake</title>
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		<dc:creator>year of snake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What new Cabinet! Just new faces.  It is still UMNOPUTRAS' Cabinet. How can there be a new Cabinet when the important Ministeries of Finance, Trade and Commerce (International and Domestic), Home Affairs, Foreign Affairs, Education, Higher Education and Defence are reserved only for UMNO.  I hope that the day will come when I can see a non-Malay holding one of these post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What new Cabinet! Just new faces.  It is still UMNOPUTRAS&#8217; Cabinet. How can there be a new Cabinet when the important Ministeries of Finance, Trade and Commerce (International and Domestic), Home Affairs, Foreign Affairs, Education, Higher Education and Defence are reserved only for UMNO.  I hope that the day will come when I can see a non-Malay holding one of these post.</p>
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		<title>By: NotProudToBeMalaysian</title>
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		<dc:creator>NotProudToBeMalaysian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the sake of the people and the country!
Please call for the King and Sultan to interfere and put end to our misery.
We really cannot wait for another day 'cos our country's hope is fading.
Beside's God, I'm sure there must be someone out there who is much more powerful and supreme than he is.
We can't wait for God to save us and we can't really wait for the next GE either!
Please bring democracy back!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the sake of the people and the country!<br />
Please call for the King and Sultan to interfere and put end to our misery.<br />
We really cannot wait for another day &#8216;cos our country&#8217;s hope is fading.<br />
Beside&#8217;s God, I&#8217;m sure there must be someone out there who is much more powerful and supreme than he is.<br />
We can&#8217;t wait for God to save us and we can&#8217;t really wait for the next GE either!<br />
Please bring democracy back!!!</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
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		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will Zaid listen to his boss, or Sultan? Off course he listen to his boss! it has become obvious. Sometime boss give u nasty job u hate him but u still have to complete it. [deleted]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Zaid listen to his boss, or Sultan? Off course he listen to his boss! it has become obvious. Sometime boss give u nasty job u hate him but u still have to complete it. [deleted]</p>
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