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	<title>Comments on: Brave new M&#8217;sian identity emerging?</title>
	<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/</link>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-99329</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-99329</guid>
		<description>Malaysia is a paddy field infested by locust (UMNO), thanks god the new pesticides has been introduced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malaysia is a paddy field infested by locust (UMNO), thanks god the new pesticides has been introduced.</p>
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		<title>By: politicalopinions</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93955</link>
		<dc:creator>politicalopinions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 08:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93955</guid>
		<description>Original Version

The Ant works hard in the withering heat all summer building its house
and laying up supplies for the winter.
The Grasshopper thinks the Ant is a fool and laughs &#38; dances &#38; plays
the summer away.
Come winter, the Ant is warm and well fed. The Grasshopper has no food
or shelter so he dies out in the cold.

New Version

The Ant works hard in the withering heat all summer building its house
and laying up supplies for the winter.
The Grasshopper thinks the Ant's a fool and laughs &#38; dances &#38; plays
the summer away.

Come winter, the shivering Grasshopper calls a press conference and
demands to know why the Ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed
while others are cold and starving.

TV1, TV2 &#38; TV3 show up to provide pictures of the shivering
Grasshopper next to a video of the Ant in his comfortable home with a
table filled with food.

The majority of the  Parliament is stunned by the sharp contrast.
How can it be that this poor Grasshopper be allowed to suffer so?

Khairy stages a demonstration in front of the Ant's house.

Nazri goes on a fast along with other Grasshoppers demanding that
Grasshoppers be accorded the same comfort during winter.

Most of the related people criticize the Government for not
upholding the fundamental rights of the Grasshopper.

The local newspapers (MSNs) &#38; the Internet are flooded with online petitions
seeking support for the Grasshopper (many promising Heaven and
Everlasting Peace for prompt support as against the wrath of God for
non-compliance).

The u must not object controlled Parliament immediately passes a law preventing Ants from working
hard in the heat so as to bring about equality of poverty among Ants
and Grasshoppers.

Krishammudin provide 'More Special Reservation' for Grasshoppers in
Educational Institutions &#38; in Government Services.

The Ant is found guilty and fined for failing to comply with 30% sharing. Having
nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes; its home is confiscated by
the Government and handed over to the Grasshopper in a ceremony
covered by the MSNs.

Prime Minister announces to the whole nation that this is part of
the Never Ending Policy and all have to respect, no questions asked and have to follow
it.

Many years later

The Ant has since migrated and set up a multi-billion dollar company in its new country.

In spite of the NEP, 100s of Grasshoppers still die of starvation everywhere.
With the loss of many hard working Ants who worked very hard feeding the Grasshoppers,
the country still remains a developing country!!!

Where will the country be without the ants............................

so.... are you the brilliant hardworking ant or the grasshopper that is dependent on the NEP 
and forever hopping for aid???

Found this in the net....enjoy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Original Version</p>
<p>The Ant works hard in the withering heat all summer building its house<br />
and laying up supplies for the winter.<br />
The Grasshopper thinks the Ant is a fool and laughs &amp; dances &amp; plays<br />
the summer away.<br />
Come winter, the Ant is warm and well fed. The Grasshopper has no food<br />
or shelter so he dies out in the cold.</p>
<p>New Version</p>
<p>The Ant works hard in the withering heat all summer building its house<br />
and laying up supplies for the winter.<br />
The Grasshopper thinks the Ant&#8217;s a fool and laughs &amp; dances &amp; plays<br />
the summer away.</p>
<p>Come winter, the shivering Grasshopper calls a press conference and<br />
demands to know why the Ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed<br />
while others are cold and starving.</p>
<p>TV1, TV2 &amp; TV3 show up to provide pictures of the shivering<br />
Grasshopper next to a video of the Ant in his comfortable home with a<br />
table filled with food.</p>
<p>The majority of the  Parliament is stunned by the sharp contrast.<br />
How can it be that this poor Grasshopper be allowed to suffer so?</p>
<p>Khairy stages a demonstration in front of the Ant&#8217;s house.</p>
<p>Nazri goes on a fast along with other Grasshoppers demanding that<br />
Grasshoppers be accorded the same comfort during winter.</p>
<p>Most of the related people criticize the Government for not<br />
upholding the fundamental rights of the Grasshopper.</p>
<p>The local newspapers (MSNs) &amp; the Internet are flooded with online petitions<br />
seeking support for the Grasshopper (many promising Heaven and<br />
Everlasting Peace for prompt support as against the wrath of God for<br />
non-compliance).</p>
<p>The u must not object controlled Parliament immediately passes a law preventing Ants from working<br />
hard in the heat so as to bring about equality of poverty among Ants<br />
and Grasshoppers.</p>
<p>Krishammudin provide &#8216;More Special Reservation&#8217; for Grasshoppers in<br />
Educational Institutions &amp; in Government Services.</p>
<p>The Ant is found guilty and fined for failing to comply with 30% sharing. Having<br />
nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes; its home is confiscated by<br />
the Government and handed over to the Grasshopper in a ceremony<br />
covered by the MSNs.</p>
<p>Prime Minister announces to the whole nation that this is part of<br />
the Never Ending Policy and all have to respect, no questions asked and have to follow<br />
it.</p>
<p>Many years later</p>
<p>The Ant has since migrated and set up a multi-billion dollar company in its new country.</p>
<p>In spite of the NEP, 100s of Grasshoppers still die of starvation everywhere.<br />
With the loss of many hard working Ants who worked very hard feeding the Grasshoppers,<br />
the country still remains a developing country!!!</p>
<p>Where will the country be without the ants&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>so&#8230;. are you the brilliant hardworking ant or the grasshopper that is dependent on the NEP<br />
and forever hopping for aid???</p>
<p>Found this in the net&#8230;.enjoy</p>
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		<title>By: wag-the-dog</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93698</link>
		<dc:creator>wag-the-dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93698</guid>
		<description>Malaysia's Beauty only Skin Deep - A Nomad

This article was written by a traveller and an expat who had lived in Malaysia.

Malaysia is a great country! Unspoiled beaches, excellent diving spots, mountains surrounded by misty fog, exotic fauna and flora and a healthy, vast rain forest are attracting plenty of visitors. Islands like Pulau Langkawi, Tioman, Penang, the Perhentians or locations like Genting Highlands have a legendary reputation with travelers.

The country embraced tourism already many years ago and the slogan “Malaysia - truly Asia” will ring in your ears forever; once you saw the mesmerizing advertising campaigns on CNN, BBC or other global TV stations.

However, Malaysia’s politics were never that idyllic and recent years were no exception:

What happened so far?

Visit www.wagthedog-malaysia.blogspot.com for details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malaysia&#8217;s Beauty only Skin Deep - A Nomad</p>
<p>This article was written by a traveller and an expat who had lived in Malaysia.</p>
<p>Malaysia is a great country! Unspoiled beaches, excellent diving spots, mountains surrounded by misty fog, exotic fauna and flora and a healthy, vast rain forest are attracting plenty of visitors. Islands like Pulau Langkawi, Tioman, Penang, the Perhentians or locations like Genting Highlands have a legendary reputation with travelers.</p>
<p>The country embraced tourism already many years ago and the slogan “Malaysia - truly Asia” will ring in your ears forever; once you saw the mesmerizing advertising campaigns on CNN, BBC or other global TV stations.</p>
<p>However, Malaysia’s politics were never that idyllic and recent years were no exception:</p>
<p>What happened so far?</p>
<p>Visit <a href="http://www.wagthedog-malaysia.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wagthedog-malaysia.blogspot.com</a> for details.</p>
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		<title>By: saubing</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93647</link>
		<dc:creator>saubing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93647</guid>
		<description>I have never doubted Teresa's ability cause she has shown results since becoming an MP from 1999. the same goes to Teng who have been showing results since 1995. But then the same cannot be said of Ronnie and Ean Yong. hope they can be good or even better than Teresa and Teng. Just curious why DAP want to risk this little chance given by the rakyat after a 50 years wait to test on fresh SA. I agree with ric23. with DAP Putras in DAP, the CEC do not need to show Transparency here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never doubted Teresa&#8217;s ability cause she has shown results since becoming an MP from 1999. the same goes to Teng who have been showing results since 1995. But then the same cannot be said of Ronnie and Ean Yong. hope they can be good or even better than Teresa and Teng. Just curious why DAP want to risk this little chance given by the rakyat after a 50 years wait to test on fresh SA. I agree with ric23. with DAP Putras in DAP, the CEC do not need to show Transparency here!</p>
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		<title>By: ric23_my</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93646</link>
		<dc:creator>ric23_my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93646</guid>
		<description>lakilompat,

this issue make ppl feel the smell of favourism, and sidelined of potential and caliber leaders ..

since DAP selangor have their reason and criteria to select the exco list ... if it is convincing, why so scare to let other knows?

If DAP selangor will tell ppl that exco is selected based on criteria "who's armpit hair is the longest" ... then  i am going to use a ruler to measures ... if teng's armpit hair is the shortest, then i will keep quiet and accept it ...

there must already a criteria how the formation is made, right? Then what it is? ppl curious to know since there is smell of favourism ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lakilompat,</p>
<p>this issue make ppl feel the smell of favourism, and sidelined of potential and caliber leaders ..</p>
<p>since DAP selangor have their reason and criteria to select the exco list &#8230; if it is convincing, why so scare to let other knows?</p>
<p>If DAP selangor will tell ppl that exco is selected based on criteria &#8220;who&#8217;s armpit hair is the longest&#8221; &#8230; then  i am going to use a ruler to measures &#8230; if teng&#8217;s armpit hair is the shortest, then i will keep quiet and accept it &#8230;</p>
<p>there must already a criteria how the formation is made, right? Then what it is? ppl curious to know since there is smell of favourism &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93642</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93642</guid>
		<description>Q1- Why must DAP use an untested Ean Yong as Exco to investigate the matters that were brought by Teng? 
[Rejuvenate - New ideas, talents that doesn't mean Ean Yong can't deliver]
Q2-Why must DAP drop a proven SA with creditable showing in the late Zakaria istana issue and let Ean Yong investigate?
[They work as a team whoever is drop and rise, does it really matters? Is it in the constitution one must be creditable in order to get the appointment?]
Q3- Who has more knowledge in the istana Zakaria NOW?
[Who care?]
Q4- What is the justification in selecting Ean Yong over Teng?
[Rejuvenation? perhaps, give young generation a chance]
DAP=TRANSPARENCY
[Off course else you wouldn't have statement made from Teng]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q1- Why must DAP use an untested Ean Yong as Exco to investigate the matters that were brought by Teng?<br />
[Rejuvenate - New ideas, talents that doesn&#8217;t mean Ean Yong can&#8217;t deliver]<br />
Q2-Why must DAP drop a proven SA with creditable showing in the late Zakaria istana issue and let Ean Yong investigate?<br />
[They work as a team whoever is drop and rise, does it really matters? Is it in the constitution one must be creditable in order to get the appointment?]<br />
Q3- Who has more knowledge in the istana Zakaria NOW?<br />
[Who care?]<br />
Q4- What is the justification in selecting Ean Yong over Teng?<br />
[Rejuvenation? perhaps, give young generation a chance]<br />
DAP=TRANSPARENCY<br />
[Off course else you wouldn&#8217;t have statement made from Teng]</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93639</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93639</guid>
		<description>Pak Lah can't take KJ, else he have to declare, also it is much better for KJ to remain low profiles to keep things secret anyhow Pak Lah will still seek KJ advise on certain federal contracts, the Iskandar projects etc. Don't forget Pak Lah need to enjoy family life with Jeanne, grandson, daughter, son, ultimately Khairy. If you appoint Khairy as minister, he will be busy. Now Khairy is not minister he can easily fly here and there enjoy his life, any new contracts come, he will get first hand info. He's probably enjoying his massage now or sipping his coffee at one of the golf ranch while the rakyat and opposition struggles to fend off federal sabotage and EXCO appointment.

Pls look and think far! Why i need be a minister when im a prime minister eye and ear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pak Lah can&#8217;t take KJ, else he have to declare, also it is much better for KJ to remain low profiles to keep things secret anyhow Pak Lah will still seek KJ advise on certain federal contracts, the Iskandar projects etc. Don&#8217;t forget Pak Lah need to enjoy family life with Jeanne, grandson, daughter, son, ultimately Khairy. If you appoint Khairy as minister, he will be busy. Now Khairy is not minister he can easily fly here and there enjoy his life, any new contracts come, he will get first hand info. He&#8217;s probably enjoying his massage now or sipping his coffee at one of the golf ranch while the rakyat and opposition struggles to fend off federal sabotage and EXCO appointment.</p>
<p>Pls look and think far! Why i need be a minister when im a prime minister eye and ear?</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93633</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93633</guid>
		<description>The appointment or the non appointment of Teng goes beyond age and experience arguments.  It may also connote hegemony within DAP where senior and potentially capable leaders are sidelined.  

I see that we are vociferous in our attack against Ean Yong and Ronnie (to some extent) but we have left Theresa untouched.  May I know why, is it because she is a woman or a popular MP?  Is she really that capable or resourceful to be everywhere and holding so many positions?  Never mind, we shall all see the quality of her work as well as Ean’s and Ronnie’s from now on.   Besides, I think the positions they are holding now are not their own doing or decision.  Ultimately, it is CEC and Sdr Lim who need to provide some explanation on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The appointment or the non appointment of Teng goes beyond age and experience arguments.  It may also connote hegemony within DAP where senior and potentially capable leaders are sidelined.  </p>
<p>I see that we are vociferous in our attack against Ean Yong and Ronnie (to some extent) but we have left Theresa untouched.  May I know why, is it because she is a woman or a popular MP?  Is she really that capable or resourceful to be everywhere and holding so many positions?  Never mind, we shall all see the quality of her work as well as Ean’s and Ronnie’s from now on.   Besides, I think the positions they are holding now are not their own doing or decision.  Ultimately, it is CEC and Sdr Lim who need to provide some explanation on this.</p>
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		<title>By: ric23_my</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93631</link>
		<dc:creator>ric23_my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93631</guid>
		<description>saubing,

u better save enegy lah, they are DAP Putra ...

it will be the same as if you ask UMMNO Putra about the DEP, they will twist here and there to make it out of topic and finding excuses to escape ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saubing,</p>
<p>u better save enegy lah, they are DAP Putra &#8230;</p>
<p>it will be the same as if you ask UMMNO Putra about the DEP, they will twist here and there to make it out of topic and finding excuses to escape &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: saubing</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93619</link>
		<dc:creator>saubing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93619</guid>
		<description>mycroft,

maybe I am wrong, the reason that DAP got 3 exco instead of 4 exco is because the Sultan "advised" that the proportion of the Malays and nono-Mal;ays exco be be at least equal. I am sure DAP would not want to dispute this as they may end up like UMNO Trengganu and the MSM may sensationalise the issue (like what they did to Uncle Kit  for the Perak MB issue). 13/36 is 36%. so we are almost there if Teng is made a Speaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mycroft,</p>
<p>maybe I am wrong, the reason that DAP got 3 exco instead of 4 exco is because the Sultan &#8220;advised&#8221; that the proportion of the Malays and nono-Mal;ays exco be be at least equal. I am sure DAP would not want to dispute this as they may end up like UMNO Trengganu and the MSM may sensationalise the issue (like what they did to Uncle Kit  for the Perak MB issue). 13/36 is 36%. so we are almost there if Teng is made a Speaker.</p>
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		<title>By: saubing</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93616</link>
		<dc:creator>saubing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93616</guid>
		<description>mycroft,

I'm sorry if I make u misunderstand my meaning. To cut things short. 

Q1- Why must DAP use an untested Ean Yong as Exco to investigate the matters that were brought by Teng? 

Q2-Why must DAP drop a proven SA with creditable showing in the late Zakaria istana issue and let Ean Yong investigate?

Q3- Who has more knowledge in the istana Zakaria NOW?

Q4- What is the justification in selecting Ean Yong over Teng?

DAP=TRANSPARENCY

or is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mycroft,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry if I make u misunderstand my meaning. To cut things short. </p>
<p>Q1- Why must DAP use an untested Ean Yong as Exco to investigate the matters that were brought by Teng? </p>
<p>Q2-Why must DAP drop a proven SA with creditable showing in the late Zakaria istana issue and let Ean Yong investigate?</p>
<p>Q3- Who has more knowledge in the istana Zakaria NOW?</p>
<p>Q4- What is the justification in selecting Ean Yong over Teng?</p>
<p>DAP=TRANSPARENCY</p>
<p>or is it?</p>
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		<title>By: ric23_my</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93560</link>
		<dc:creator>ric23_my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93560</guid>
		<description>mycroft,

saubling might make u misunderstand on this issues ... it is not about age or person

it is the same theory why we all curious on certain formation of abdullah cabinet ... we will ask if we curious ...

selangor case is why an experience and has achivement candidate is not appointed but a fresh one is appointed ... usually fresh one is selected if we have no other choices ... but in this case it is not ...

bare in mind ... we have only 4 years time ... and chances that BN will take over selangor is very high ... BN fall this time becoz they have too much weakness ... not becoz the opposition have many achivements in governing state (since we dont have chances for 50 years) ...

with this short time of 4 years, we need to make use of ppl with experience to ensure that the experience can efficiently help to achieve some performace on the state government ... DAP need big achievemnt, not minor achievement in selangor goverment ...

that's the reason why ppl curious and asking, why dun make use of the experience one but a fresh one IN THIS CRITICAL MOMENT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mycroft,</p>
<p>saubling might make u misunderstand on this issues &#8230; it is not about age or person</p>
<p>it is the same theory why we all curious on certain formation of abdullah cabinet &#8230; we will ask if we curious &#8230;</p>
<p>selangor case is why an experience and has achivement candidate is not appointed but a fresh one is appointed &#8230; usually fresh one is selected if we have no other choices &#8230; but in this case it is not &#8230;</p>
<p>bare in mind &#8230; we have only 4 years time &#8230; and chances that BN will take over selangor is very high &#8230; BN fall this time becoz they have too much weakness &#8230; not becoz the opposition have many achivements in governing state (since we dont have chances for 50 years) &#8230;</p>
<p>with this short time of 4 years, we need to make use of ppl with experience to ensure that the experience can efficiently help to achieve some performace on the state government &#8230; DAP need big achievemnt, not minor achievement in selangor goverment &#8230;</p>
<p>that&#8217;s the reason why ppl curious and asking, why dun make use of the experience one but a fresh one IN THIS CRITICAL MOMENT?</p>
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		<title>By: mycroft</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93553</link>
		<dc:creator>mycroft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93553</guid>
		<description>saubing said, 

"selecting the 29 years old boy is the same like PM selecting KJ as Minister."

I can think of a hundred reasons why KJ should not be a minister and his age is not one of them. Similarly, I cannot think of any reason why Ean Yong's age should count against him. I think you are being highly insulting by calling him a boy. He's 29 years old, which means that he is 11 years past 18, which is when most people are considered to have become matured. That's hardly a boy, is it? Or are you saying that his constituencies are stupid for electing a "boy" to be their representative? 

Age is only a number. William Pitt the Younger, one of Britain's most famous and respected Prime Ministers became the PM at the age of 24. Ok, granted in those days things worked differently, but he was also derided by his political opponents for his age more than anything. 

As for Teng not being in the ExCo. I think the matter should be dropped. Instead of attacking the DAP for that, I don't see anyone of you questioning why the DAP was only given 3 seats which is what PAS won when the DAP won 13 seats compared to 8 seats for PAS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saubing said, </p>
<p>&#8220;selecting the 29 years old boy is the same like PM selecting KJ as Minister.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can think of a hundred reasons why KJ should not be a minister and his age is not one of them. Similarly, I cannot think of any reason why Ean Yong&#8217;s age should count against him. I think you are being highly insulting by calling him a boy. He&#8217;s 29 years old, which means that he is 11 years past 18, which is when most people are considered to have become matured. That&#8217;s hardly a boy, is it? Or are you saying that his constituencies are stupid for electing a &#8220;boy&#8221; to be their representative? </p>
<p>Age is only a number. William Pitt the Younger, one of Britain&#8217;s most famous and respected Prime Ministers became the PM at the age of 24. Ok, granted in those days things worked differently, but he was also derided by his political opponents for his age more than anything. </p>
<p>As for Teng not being in the ExCo. I think the matter should be dropped. Instead of attacking the DAP for that, I don&#8217;t see anyone of you questioning why the DAP was only given 3 seats which is what PAS won when the DAP won 13 seats compared to 8 seats for PAS.</p>
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		<title>By: saubing</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93541</link>
		<dc:creator>saubing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93541</guid>
		<description>limkamput,

We have been asking for explaination since Monday but until today there is no justification or explaination from the CEC DAP regarding their criteria in choosing the three excos. they want to behave like UMNO Putras mentality "we think what is best for the rakyat" selecting the 29 years old boy is the same like PM selecting KJ as Minister. no justification. maybe u can refer to my previous comments. I am tired of repeating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>limkamput,</p>
<p>We have been asking for explaination since Monday but until today there is no justification or explaination from the CEC DAP regarding their criteria in choosing the three excos. they want to behave like UMNO Putras mentality &#8220;we think what is best for the rakyat&#8221; selecting the 29 years old boy is the same like PM selecting KJ as Minister. no justification. maybe u can refer to my previous comments. I am tired of repeating.</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93537</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93537</guid>
		<description>saubling, 
I think you don't understand me. I am referring to Teng's case and my point is we just can't move on unless we get some answers from DAP.  Otherwise DAP will be no difference from BN.  Be it on Teng's case, be it on the administration of a state government, and be it on the management of a political party, the principles of transparency, fairness and accountability are the same and they equally and unequivocally apply.  If we can sacrifice Teng, we can sacrifice bigger issues in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saubling,<br />
I think you don&#8217;t understand me. I am referring to Teng&#8217;s case and my point is we just can&#8217;t move on unless we get some answers from DAP.  Otherwise DAP will be no difference from BN.  Be it on Teng&#8217;s case, be it on the administration of a state government, and be it on the management of a political party, the principles of transparency, fairness and accountability are the same and they equally and unequivocally apply.  If we can sacrifice Teng, we can sacrifice bigger issues in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: saubing</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93533</link>
		<dc:creator>saubing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93533</guid>
		<description>limkamput, 

I'm sorry for not stating my earlier comments clearly. what i mean for let's move on is on Mr Teng's case. Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>limkamput, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry for not stating my earlier comments clearly. what i mean for let&#8217;s move on is on Mr Teng&#8217;s case. Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93530</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93530</guid>
		<description>saubing Says: 
I admire ric_23 persistence but what can we do if DAP do not want to answer our queries? you can see whether i blindly support or i have many queries? whatever it is let’s move on…….

What can we do? We also have lots of complaints against BN, and what can we do?  Hmm, nothing much we can do and let's move on......and we have been doing that for 50 years.  If we are not careful, the next 50 years is another "let's move on....".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saubing Says:<br />
I admire ric_23 persistence but what can we do if DAP do not want to answer our queries? you can see whether i blindly support or i have many queries? whatever it is let’s move on…….</p>
<p>What can we do? We also have lots of complaints against BN, and what can we do?  Hmm, nothing much we can do and let&#8217;s move on&#8230;&#8230;and we have been doing that for 50 years.  If we are not careful, the next 50 years is another &#8220;let&#8217;s move on&#8230;.&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: saubing</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93529</link>
		<dc:creator>saubing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93529</guid>
		<description>ric23, 

I am not as energetic as you. please see this article

http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/80481

I think it's well said. DAP should do some reflection after this GE. 

I hope you can update me if there is any reply from DAP CEC regarding the matter that you are so persistent! Keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ric23, </p>
<p>I am not as energetic as you. please see this article</p>
<p><a href="http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/80481" rel="nofollow">http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/80481</a></p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s well said. DAP should do some reflection after this GE. </p>
<p>I hope you can update me if there is any reply from DAP CEC regarding the matter that you are so persistent! Keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: kickbutt</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93525</link>
		<dc:creator>kickbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93525</guid>
		<description>"We must be rational when we support a political party. If we are blind and fanatical, in no time the party we support will behave like another BN." limkamput

Saubing, you're new on this blog. So you could be excused for not knowing that only this self-appointed resident gatekeeper is rational, not blind and not fanatical.

But hey who says in the land of the blind the one-eyed jackass is not king??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We must be rational when we support a political party. If we are blind and fanatical, in no time the party we support will behave like another BN.&#8221; limkamput</p>
<p>Saubing, you&#8217;re new on this blog. So you could be excused for not knowing that only this self-appointed resident gatekeeper is rational, not blind and not fanatical.</p>
<p>But hey who says in the land of the blind the one-eyed jackass is not king??</p>
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		<title>By: ric23_my</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93524</link>
		<dc:creator>ric23_my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93524</guid>
		<description>saubing,

i very energetic, will keep pondering until it is answered :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saubing,</p>
<p>i very energetic, will keep pondering until it is answered :p</p>
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		<title>By: saubing</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93516</link>
		<dc:creator>saubing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93516</guid>
		<description>limkamput,

please look at the earlier comments made by me,ric23,lakilompat and teejay. It is never my intention to say that it is ok if Teng is wronged. DAP CEC still do not want to give an explaination on why Teng is dropped. We, as concerned voters queried but still there's no reply from DAP CEC. what can i do? I admire ric_23 persistence but what can we do if DAP do not want to answer our queries? you can see whether i blindly support or i have many queries? whatever it is let's move on.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>limkamput,</p>
<p>please look at the earlier comments made by me,ric23,lakilompat and teejay. It is never my intention to say that it is ok if Teng is wronged. DAP CEC still do not want to give an explaination on why Teng is dropped. We, as concerned voters queried but still there&#8217;s no reply from DAP CEC. what can i do? I admire ric_23 persistence but what can we do if DAP do not want to answer our queries? you can see whether i blindly support or i have many queries? whatever it is let&#8217;s move on&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: saubing</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93514</link>
		<dc:creator>saubing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93514</guid>
		<description>limkamput,

please look at the earlier comments made by me,ric23,lakilompat and teejay. It is never my intention to say that it is ok if Teng is wronged. DAP CEC still do not want to give an explaination on why Teng is dropped. We, as concerned voters queried but still there's no reply from DAP CEC. what can i do? I admire ric_23 persistence but what can we do if DAP do not want to answer our queries?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>limkamput,</p>
<p>please look at the earlier comments made by me,ric23,lakilompat and teejay. It is never my intention to say that it is ok if Teng is wronged. DAP CEC still do not want to give an explaination on why Teng is dropped. We, as concerned voters queried but still there&#8217;s no reply from DAP CEC. what can i do? I admire ric_23 persistence but what can we do if DAP do not want to answer our queries?</p>
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		<title>By: ric23_my</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93506</link>
		<dc:creator>ric23_my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93506</guid>
		<description>limkamput ... i will keep pondering until it is answered :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>limkamput &#8230; i will keep pondering until it is answered :p</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93504</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93504</guid>
		<description>saubing Says: "I also respect Teng’s decision. Just hope that in future DAP CEC will be more transparent and careful in every decision they make."

What statement are you making? You "hope" and in "the future"?  So are you saying if Teng is wronged, it is ok?  You just "hope" that in "the future" it will not happen again.  I think this is not the way to support a political party. I want DAP to do the right thing now, not in the future.  I expect and demand the DAP to do the right thing now, I don't hope.  

We must be rational when we support a political party. If we are blind and fanatical, in no time the party we support will behave like another BN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saubing Says: &#8220;I also respect Teng’s decision. Just hope that in future DAP CEC will be more transparent and careful in every decision they make.&#8221;</p>
<p>What statement are you making? You &#8220;hope&#8221; and in &#8220;the future&#8221;?  So are you saying if Teng is wronged, it is ok?  You just &#8220;hope&#8221; that in &#8220;the future&#8221; it will not happen again.  I think this is not the way to support a political party. I want DAP to do the right thing now, not in the future.  I expect and demand the DAP to do the right thing now, I don&#8217;t hope.  </p>
<p>We must be rational when we support a political party. If we are blind and fanatical, in no time the party we support will behave like another BN.</p>
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		<title>By: mycroft</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93501</link>
		<dc:creator>mycroft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93501</guid>
		<description>lakilompat, DAPSY (DAP Socialist Youth) membership is open to people below 40. That is the youth wing of the DAP. Not very sure, but I think if you join the Party, you are automatically seconded into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lakilompat, DAPSY (DAP Socialist Youth) membership is open to people below 40. That is the youth wing of the DAP. Not very sure, but I think if you join the Party, you are automatically seconded into it.</p>
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		<title>By: BlackEye</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93480</link>
		<dc:creator>BlackEye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93480</guid>
		<description>Hey Tickler,


You should know better than to get readers here worked up on events in Trengganu surrounding the Palace and the Malays there!



Why do you think YB Kit stays clear of the issue or issues surrounding the case? A cursory reading of the article would no doubt leave the less perceptive among  readers that the DAP has been singled out for praise. It is not the case! There is nothing written that is complimentary of  YB Kit and Karpal Singh!



 (translated for the convenience of readers)


Quote


“However,  deplorable some of the activities of non-Muslims in Malaysia they have yet to offend the teachings of Ad Deenullah, insulting the sovereignty of the Malay sultan.



Lim Kit Siang has yet to insult the Sultan the way UMNO Malays have done in Trengganu.



However  stubborn Karpal Singh may have been in his protest against the implementation of Shariah law in our country, he has  yet to insult his Majesty.”




Unquote



Needless to say, YB Kit in his infinite wisdom has chosen  not to comment  on the issue in his blog for fear of being dragged into the controversy.



“Mahaguru” is one blog  non-Malay or even non-Trengganu Malay readers may want to visit occasionally  to understand the Trengganu Malay psyche, but make no mistake it is not exactly a blog that could be said to subscribe to the concept of Malaysian Malaysia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tickler,</p>
<p>You should know better than to get readers here worked up on events in Trengganu surrounding the Palace and the Malays there!</p>
<p>Why do you think YB Kit stays clear of the issue or issues surrounding the case? A cursory reading of the article would no doubt leave the less perceptive among  readers that the DAP has been singled out for praise. It is not the case! There is nothing written that is complimentary of  YB Kit and Karpal Singh!</p>
<p> (translated for the convenience of readers)</p>
<p>Quote</p>
<p>“However,  deplorable some of the activities of non-Muslims in Malaysia they have yet to offend the teachings of Ad Deenullah, insulting the sovereignty of the Malay sultan.</p>
<p>Lim Kit Siang has yet to insult the Sultan the way UMNO Malays have done in Trengganu.</p>
<p>However  stubborn Karpal Singh may have been in his protest against the implementation of Shariah law in our country, he has  yet to insult his Majesty.”</p>
<p>Unquote</p>
<p>Needless to say, YB Kit in his infinite wisdom has chosen  not to comment  on the issue in his blog for fear of being dragged into the controversy.</p>
<p>“Mahaguru” is one blog  non-Malay or even non-Trengganu Malay readers may want to visit occasionally  to understand the Trengganu Malay psyche, but make no mistake it is not exactly a blog that could be said to subscribe to the concept of Malaysian Malaysia.</p>
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		<title>By: jetaime.f</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93476</link>
		<dc:creator>jetaime.f</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93476</guid>
		<description>nice :) time......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice <img src='http://blog.limkitsiang.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> time&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ric23_my</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93471</link>
		<dc:creator>ric23_my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93471</guid>
		<description>But i feel is favourism, as can see in Fong case also ... if not ask in this manner, wat is ur suggestion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But i feel is favourism, as can see in Fong case also &#8230; if not ask in this manner, wat is ur suggestion?</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93469</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93469</guid>
		<description>well then, u must ask them always but not in the manner earlier on, i mean earlier on u r relating the incidents to DAP principle, crony and favourism which might create an impression that they are not acting as one.

I agreed with saubing let's move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well then, u must ask them always but not in the manner earlier on, i mean earlier on u r relating the incidents to DAP principle, crony and favourism which might create an impression that they are not acting as one.</p>
<p>I agreed with saubing let&#8217;s move on.</p>
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		<title>By: saubing</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93466</link>
		<dc:creator>saubing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93466</guid>
		<description>let's move on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let&#8217;s move on</p>
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		<title>By: ric23_my</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93465</link>
		<dc:creator>ric23_my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93465</guid>
		<description>lakilompat,

i have semangat DAP, will always ask until they answer, never dies ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lakilompat,</p>
<p>i have semangat DAP, will always ask until they answer, never dies &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93464</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93464</guid>
		<description>U shud respect and honor the decision, don't argue anymore it won't get you no where. Let their pledge speaks, and proof you wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U shud respect and honor the decision, don&#8217;t argue anymore it won&#8217;t get you no where. Let their pledge speaks, and proof you wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: ric23_my</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93458</link>
		<dc:creator>ric23_my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93458</guid>
		<description>u this lakilompat, really kenot get the point</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u this lakilompat, really kenot get the point</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93457</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93457</guid>
		<description>ric23_my no need 4 yrs, jus sit calmly and watch. If he's doing something silly, YB LKS will drop the axe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ric23_my no need 4 yrs, jus sit calmly and watch. If he&#8217;s doing something silly, YB LKS will drop the axe.</p>
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		<title>By: ric23_my</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93453</link>
		<dc:creator>ric23_my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93453</guid>
		<description>Ean is appointed to settle the case involving Zakarria palace which digged out by teng ...

we will see whether he can play his roles and dun fear against actions from UMMNO putra in near future ...

see whether he dare to stand firm agaisnt these ppl or not .. if not, next year should immediately replaced</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ean is appointed to settle the case involving Zakarria palace which digged out by teng &#8230;</p>
<p>we will see whether he can play his roles and dun fear against actions from UMMNO putra in near future &#8230;</p>
<p>see whether he dare to stand firm agaisnt these ppl or not .. if not, next year should immediately replaced</p>
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		<title>By: ric23_my</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93447</link>
		<dc:creator>ric23_my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93447</guid>
		<description>lakilompat,

so we patient for 4 years lah ... next election when DAP go near to the Selangor ppl, if they said ... 4 years ... enough is enough ...

whose butt should i kick? i think i am going to voodoo u if this happen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lakilompat,</p>
<p>so we patient for 4 years lah &#8230; next election when DAP go near to the Selangor ppl, if they said &#8230; 4 years &#8230; enough is enough &#8230;</p>
<p>whose butt should i kick? i think i am going to voodoo u if this happen</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93443</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93443</guid>
		<description>When human died, the body will rot but the soul will be reincarnated. Scientifically it has yet to be proven, but is there anyone on earth can claimed this is not true and never existed. 

History often warn us, tryant will failed, poor governance will lead to rebellions, such as the case when a group of incapable Eunuch take over the government. Leader who lied will lead the nation to destruction and despair, look at the American today. How many widows, orphans, handicap young man &#38; woman they've produced as a result to achieve some individual patriotic dream?

Intelligent ppl observe the past (history) study the star, river flows, and rate the governance. By correcting history so that it won't repeat, this will pave way for future. Identifying the past mistakes, correcting it now, observe and monitor during the implementation phase then rectify it or replace it to achieve the result desired. I believe, in order for a healthy system to work, patience is required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When human died, the body will rot but the soul will be reincarnated. Scientifically it has yet to be proven, but is there anyone on earth can claimed this is not true and never existed. </p>
<p>History often warn us, tryant will failed, poor governance will lead to rebellions, such as the case when a group of incapable Eunuch take over the government. Leader who lied will lead the nation to destruction and despair, look at the American today. How many widows, orphans, handicap young man &amp; woman they&#8217;ve produced as a result to achieve some individual patriotic dream?</p>
<p>Intelligent ppl observe the past (history) study the star, river flows, and rate the governance. By correcting history so that it won&#8217;t repeat, this will pave way for future. Identifying the past mistakes, correcting it now, observe and monitor during the implementation phase then rectify it or replace it to achieve the result desired. I believe, in order for a healthy system to work, patience is required.</p>
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		<title>By: saubing</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93441</link>
		<dc:creator>saubing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93441</guid>
		<description>I also respect Teng's decision. Just hope that in future DAP CEC will be more transparent and careful in every decision they make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also respect Teng&#8217;s decision. Just hope that in future DAP CEC will be more transparent and careful in every decision they make.</p>
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		<title>By: saubing</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93439</link>
		<dc:creator>saubing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93439</guid>
		<description>lakilompat,

his bro is gerakan, uncle is MCA, it does not make any difference. Who wants to join opposition in the first place if they want money and post. those who is brave enough to join opposition is not afraid of ISA, lost business opportunities and many other factors. why we donate to DAP during GE? It's because they need the money for day to day expenses.every single flag or posters the candidate need to bear. that's why i really salute opposition party leaders. ISA is always waiting for them. Teng is a practising lawyer, do you think he will be popular among those large corporations especially banks and developers. I know that P Uthayakumar is also a lawyer and he spent most of his personal money to fight for the justice of his fellow Indians adn he is still under ISA detention. I always believe if a person join opposition party, it means he really can't be bothered of lost opportunities. Salute to those opposition MPs and SAs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lakilompat,</p>
<p>his bro is gerakan, uncle is MCA, it does not make any difference. Who wants to join opposition in the first place if they want money and post. those who is brave enough to join opposition is not afraid of ISA, lost business opportunities and many other factors. why we donate to DAP during GE? It&#8217;s because they need the money for day to day expenses.every single flag or posters the candidate need to bear. that&#8217;s why i really salute opposition party leaders. ISA is always waiting for them. Teng is a practising lawyer, do you think he will be popular among those large corporations especially banks and developers. I know that P Uthayakumar is also a lawyer and he spent most of his personal money to fight for the justice of his fellow Indians adn he is still under ISA detention. I always believe if a person join opposition party, it means he really can&#8217;t be bothered of lost opportunities. Salute to those opposition MPs and SAs!</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93438</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93438</guid>
		<description>Look what President Bush has done to the American, more than 4000 orphans, widows, or handicap soldiers returning from Iraq war? what do they get? is it an honor to get killed by friendly fire and enemy defending their home soils? He's lying abt the weapon of mass destruction to gain support from allies and the ppl, he's lying abt Saddam Hussein having link with Al Qaeda so that ppl will want to punish him badly. Well, ppl still support him right? Who can topple him? that's the evil of democracy.

To Saubing &#38; ric23_my i believe the explanation is clear, that he was not selected and he respected the decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look what President Bush has done to the American, more than 4000 orphans, widows, or handicap soldiers returning from Iraq war? what do they get? is it an honor to get killed by friendly fire and enemy defending their home soils? He&#8217;s lying abt the weapon of mass destruction to gain support from allies and the ppl, he&#8217;s lying abt Saddam Hussein having link with Al Qaeda so that ppl will want to punish him badly. Well, ppl still support him right? Who can topple him? that&#8217;s the evil of democracy.</p>
<p>To Saubing &amp; ric23_my i believe the explanation is clear, that he was not selected and he respected the decision.</p>
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		<title>By: ric23_my</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93436</link>
		<dc:creator>ric23_my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93436</guid>
		<description>lakilompat,

u pls lah, now is 2008 ... u talk until china dynasty so long for wat? better u talk until jurassic park and all the dinasour also come out ...

straight to the point lah ... we dun talk about teng lar, OK? we talk about Fong in Batu Gajah ... how to explain? Cannot smell another favourism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lakilompat,</p>
<p>u pls lah, now is 2008 &#8230; u talk until china dynasty so long for wat? better u talk until jurassic park and all the dinasour also come out &#8230;</p>
<p>straight to the point lah &#8230; we dun talk about teng lar, OK? we talk about Fong in Batu Gajah &#8230; how to explain? Cannot smell another favourism?</p>
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		<title>By: saubing</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93435</link>
		<dc:creator>saubing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93435</guid>
		<description>i think i don't want to talk on behalf of ric23 or else others may think we are the same person. sorry ric23.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think i don&#8217;t want to talk on behalf of ric23 or else others may think we are the same person. sorry ric23.</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93434</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93434</guid>
		<description>ric23_my i know, i've mentioned before Liu Bei has alot of capable generals, Guan Yu volunteered to be chosen, but Zhuge Liang objected, Guan Yu insisted, Zhuge Liang said fine, u must write military verdict in case he let go of Cao Cao he will have to bear the responsibility. Well, see what happen? favoritism? Guan Yu is capable but will he choose loyalty or principle? Don't forget his bro is Gerakan, will you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ric23_my i know, i&#8217;ve mentioned before Liu Bei has alot of capable generals, Guan Yu volunteered to be chosen, but Zhuge Liang objected, Guan Yu insisted, Zhuge Liang said fine, u must write military verdict in case he let go of Cao Cao he will have to bear the responsibility. Well, see what happen? favoritism? Guan Yu is capable but will he choose loyalty or principle? Don&#8217;t forget his bro is Gerakan, will you?</p>
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		<title>By: saubing</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93433</link>
		<dc:creator>saubing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93433</guid>
		<description>lakilompat,

I remember reading somewhere in the MSM that Teng also has an uncle who is an MCA SA or MP. I think what ric_23 feared is that if we don't show the public on the transparency, then in future how are we going to question BN on this issue. (remember those 4th floor boys with KJ as leader). what ric23 wants to know is explaination, DAP cannot behave like UMNO. Decisions often made but with no explaination. Many around the blogs questioned the reason Muhd x2 Taib been selected into cabinet. Don't you want to know why? But our PM don't even bother to explain. Do you think it is a popular move? hope you understand ric23 and my concern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lakilompat,</p>
<p>I remember reading somewhere in the MSM that Teng also has an uncle who is an MCA SA or MP. I think what ric_23 feared is that if we don&#8217;t show the public on the transparency, then in future how are we going to question BN on this issue. (remember those 4th floor boys with KJ as leader). what ric23 wants to know is explaination, DAP cannot behave like UMNO. Decisions often made but with no explaination. Many around the blogs questioned the reason Muhd x2 Taib been selected into cabinet. Don&#8217;t you want to know why? But our PM don&#8217;t even bother to explain. Do you think it is a popular move? hope you understand ric23 and my concern.</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93432</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93432</guid>
		<description>Is there a DAP youth division? i was looking forward to join one but i'm 30 yrs old does it fit me. Is there an age limit for youth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a DAP youth division? i was looking forward to join one but i&#8217;m 30 yrs old does it fit me. Is there an age limit for youth?</p>
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		<title>By: ric23_my</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93431</link>
		<dc:creator>ric23_my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93431</guid>
		<description>lakilompat,

why cant u see the point? let say we dun say teng lar OK? may be we say tiong or tang ... why DAP want to discriminate talents? teng is just an example!

Fong in Batu Gajah, the girl compete for parliament, last minutes say dont want to compete and lost contact ... and hint that due to discrimination that make her cant do her work efficiently ... but at the end after persuading, then come back and won ... u forgot already the case?

We are asking becoz we feel the smell of favourism .. and this is crucial as it will only make talent go off the party ... and it is not good for party ...

still cannot understand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lakilompat,</p>
<p>why cant u see the point? let say we dun say teng lar OK? may be we say tiong or tang &#8230; why DAP want to discriminate talents? teng is just an example!</p>
<p>Fong in Batu Gajah, the girl compete for parliament, last minutes say dont want to compete and lost contact &#8230; and hint that due to discrimination that make her cant do her work efficiently &#8230; but at the end after persuading, then come back and won &#8230; u forgot already the case?</p>
<p>We are asking becoz we feel the smell of favourism .. and this is crucial as it will only make talent go off the party &#8230; and it is not good for party &#8230;</p>
<p>still cannot understand?</p>
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		<title>By: saubing</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93428</link>
		<dc:creator>saubing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93428</guid>
		<description>Don't follow what UMNO have done! during Dr M time, he changed lots of rules in UMNO. No Party election for many years, those vying for president must have 60 divisions (or branches, i can't remember the percentage). the leaders choose not to listen to the grassroots. The grassroots voted loyally to them until they cannot stand anymore. i believe all those who log in here have bona fide intentions. we just hope CEC DAP will take note of what we feel wrong(it may not be wrong). It is up to them on whether they want to listen or not. i also believe lakilompat and teejay are very loyal. we want DAP to grow stronger. what else can we do if our opinions, representing only one vote for every person are not noted by CEC DAP? we exposed UMNO cronisym and favouritism (sorry teejay i have to use it again) as everyone knows KJ is only 31 years old and he is already no.2 man in UMNO Youth, please don't let them have any chance to say "a pot calling the kettle black" on this Teng issue. that is my concern. Further when we said PM have not enough time (as one day only have 24 hours) to hold 3 portfolios, then don't let BN to have a chance to attack back on this issue. please reduce the workloads of our beloved multi-tasking ADUN and MP. for GE13, hopefully, DAP MP and SA will be different. I believe by then there will be many talented and young energetic individuals who is willing to take up the challenge. Good luck DAP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t follow what UMNO have done! during Dr M time, he changed lots of rules in UMNO. No Party election for many years, those vying for president must have 60 divisions (or branches, i can&#8217;t remember the percentage). the leaders choose not to listen to the grassroots. The grassroots voted loyally to them until they cannot stand anymore. i believe all those who log in here have bona fide intentions. we just hope CEC DAP will take note of what we feel wrong(it may not be wrong). It is up to them on whether they want to listen or not. i also believe lakilompat and teejay are very loyal. we want DAP to grow stronger. what else can we do if our opinions, representing only one vote for every person are not noted by CEC DAP? we exposed UMNO cronisym and favouritism (sorry teejay i have to use it again) as everyone knows KJ is only 31 years old and he is already no.2 man in UMNO Youth, please don&#8217;t let them have any chance to say &#8220;a pot calling the kettle black&#8221; on this Teng issue. that is my concern. Further when we said PM have not enough time (as one day only have 24 hours) to hold 3 portfolios, then don&#8217;t let BN to have a chance to attack back on this issue. please reduce the workloads of our beloved multi-tasking ADUN and MP. for GE13, hopefully, DAP MP and SA will be different. I believe by then there will be many talented and young energetic individuals who is willing to take up the challenge. Good luck DAP!</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93423</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93423</guid>
		<description>ric23_my ur problem is, u insisted on something which has already been finalized. There shouldn't be further question asked when it is final. I'm not hardcore DAP supporter, In fact, I'm not even a member, so I'm more like neutral, but i can see you are trying in vain to destroy and create a drama whereby Teng has been kicked out unfairly from the Exco namelist. Even when Teng explanation can't satisfy you. You should go to Teng blog, to do it, or join BN coalition, put it in your little note there, when the next election come, you can raise this point out.

I know Teng brother is from Gerakan, well, there have pretty good generals there now, too bad their leader "Mickey" wasn't a good leader cos he's playing hand in hand with Ah pek siau.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ric23_my ur problem is, u insisted on something which has already been finalized. There shouldn&#8217;t be further question asked when it is final. I&#8217;m not hardcore DAP supporter, In fact, I&#8217;m not even a member, so I&#8217;m more like neutral, but i can see you are trying in vain to destroy and create a drama whereby Teng has been kicked out unfairly from the Exco namelist. Even when Teng explanation can&#8217;t satisfy you. You should go to Teng blog, to do it, or join BN coalition, put it in your little note there, when the next election come, you can raise this point out.</p>
<p>I know Teng brother is from Gerakan, well, there have pretty good generals there now, too bad their leader &#8220;Mickey&#8221; wasn&#8217;t a good leader cos he&#8217;s playing hand in hand with Ah pek siau.</p>
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		<title>By: ric23_my</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93422</link>
		<dc:creator>ric23_my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93422</guid>
		<description>teejay,

if we are not transparent, how we can stay firm to ask BeeAnn to transparent?

This will only give opportunity for BeeAnn to go against us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>teejay,</p>
<p>if we are not transparent, how we can stay firm to ask BeeAnn to transparent?</p>
<p>This will only give opportunity for BeeAnn to go against us.</p>
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		<title>By: saubing</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93420</link>
		<dc:creator>saubing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/27/brave-new-msian-identity-emerging/#comment-93420</guid>
		<description>teejay, 

I just love to see your conspiracy theories on me and ric23. Merits and achievements are not given by party leaders. it has to be felt by the rakyat. The papers have to report it. whatever DAP do now also if we don't want to question. many years down the road, we may do what the malays do to UMNO in the election by rejecting them. UMNO claims to "bela" Melayu but they have failed. DAP stated Malaysian Malaysia but if they fail to honour it, rakyat may also reject DAP. Please answer my question on KJ, thanks. I repeat Ean Yong may be good but he has not been tested yet. why take this risk? I believe if we are not DAP supporters, why we want to log in here? teejay, do you know mca blogs,no? same with me. We can't be bothered. right? come on, all of us hope DAP will be better and better. Just hope that the public will understand the justifications in the exco selection and hope bn will not use this to attack DAP in next GE. Khir Toyo already attacked Selangor Govt for sidelining Teng. Please see malaysiakini now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>teejay, </p>
<p>I just love to see your conspiracy theories on me and ric23. Merits and achievements are not given by party leaders. it has to be felt by the rakyat. The papers have to report it. whatever DAP do now also if we don&#8217;t want to question. many years down the road, we may do what the malays do to UMNO in the election by rejecting them. UMNO claims to &#8220;bela&#8221; Melayu but they have failed. DAP stated Malaysian Malaysia but if they fail to honour it, rakyat may also reject DAP. Please answer my question on KJ, thanks. I repeat Ean Yong may be good but he has not been tested yet. why take this risk? I believe if we are not DAP supporters, why we want to log in here? teejay, do you know mca blogs,no? same with me. We can&#8217;t be bothered. right? come on, all of us hope DAP will be better and better. Just hope that the public will understand the justifications in the exco selection and hope bn will not use this to attack DAP in next GE. Khir Toyo already attacked Selangor Govt for sidelining Teng. Please see malaysiakini now.</p>
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