Siapa yang biadap sekarang


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by Md Asmawi Md Nor

Saya bersetuju bahawa Saudara telah tersilap dalam isu majlis angkat sumpah MB Perak tetapi saya juga sangat hormat apabila Saudara dengan cepat menyedari kesilapan tersebut dan dengan segera memperbetulkannya dan melakukan tindakan yang tepat dengan memohon maaf kepada pihak istana secara peribadi. Tahniah atas tindakan anda tersebut.

Nah, sekarang Terengganu pula menghadapi isu yang sama dimana 23 Adun dengan segera mengumumkan untuk memboikot majlis angkat sumpah MB Terengganu yang dijangka akan diadakan esok sebaik sahaja ayam tambatan mereka Idris Jusoh tidak terpilih sebagai MB. Seperti biasa, media UMNO Utusan Malaysia akan bersikap ‘double-standard’ dalam menanggani isu ini. Maksud saya secara spesifik ialah bila mana Saudara mengeluarkan statement dalam isu MB Perak dulu, Utusan Malaysia dengan segera dan ‘bold’ terus dengan muka depan “DAP Biadap’, dan dikuti dengan pelbagai rentetan propaganda dan provokasi lagi. Saya sebagai rakyat Terengganu mahukan perkara yang sama kali ini dilakukan oleh Utusan Malaysia dalam menanggani isu 23 Adun yang biadap ini termasuk Idris Jusoh. Tajuk yang perlu keluar dimuka depan mereka sekurang-kurangnya ’23 Adun Biadap’. Mereka semua juga perlu memohon maaf seperti mana yang Saudara lakukan dahulu.

Saya amat berharap Saudara dapat memantau isu ini dengan diberi perhatian istimewa agar UMNO khasnya sedar jangan hanya pandai melihat orang lain biadap tetapi mereka sendiri boleh bersikap biadap dan bertindak sesuka hati mereka. Macamlah negara ini tiada undang-undang.

Sekian,

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  1. #1 by lakshy on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 9:08 am

    Idris should just bow to the wishes of the State Ruler (and Agung in this case) and allow someone else to be the MB. Why the power play? Cant he serve just as well as an elected adun? Does he need the position of MB?

    Are these people really out to serve the people or to serve their own interests? I hope the rakyat wake up and realize whats going on. I also hope the terengganu folk now regret having voted BN.

  2. #2 by lakshy on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 9:12 am

    Malaysian For Equality Says:

    “If the argument holds true that people voted for change as opposed to a particular party, then if people voted for BN in 24 seats and only 8 for PAS, PAS cannot claim to ‘own’ Terengganu. They must open up the State seats for PKR and DAP to contest as well.”

    I agree with you. Perhaps PAS needs to relook at its basic policies to see what is frightening the electorate from placing them in power. Perhaps a more moderate stance on some issues would help gain more votes. And having PKR or DAP contest in some seats would help the cause of the DAP/PAS/PKR coalition to gain more seats.

  3. #3 by StevePCH on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 9:27 am

    Kepercayaan Kepada Tuhan
    Kesetiaan Kepada RAJA dan Negara
    Keluhuran Perlembagaan
    Kedaulatan Undang Undang
    Kesopanan dan Kesusilaan

    This is our Rukun Negara.

    If DAP-PKR-PAS can adhere and understand the pillar to our constitution well, I cannot see why BN can’t !!!

    Their egoism is going to backfire.

  4. #4 by fjjs on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 9:55 am

    Is UMNO trying to tell all Malaysians that only Idris can run the state of Trengganu. What is wrong for accepting Ahmad Said who is also an Umno member as Mentri Besar. This shows that the Umnoputras are serving themselves and not the rakyat.

    In this episode, BN is saying that the Ruler must appoint a person who gain the most support from the state assembly….then how about Perak?

    Whatever the outcome, the rakyat have lost confidence in BN….come the next election……BN will collapse and becomes history.

  5. #5 by StevePCH on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 10:07 am

    I really admire DYMM SPB YDPA Sultan Mizan for his stance.

    DAP-PKR-PAS should come out and defend the King.

    Laungan ” DAULAT TUANKU” should be make strong and loud for Malaysia.

    I was taught to proclaim the Rukun Negara when I entered standard 1. I still remember Rukun Negara now.

    I would really be ashamed to be from Terengganu now because their so called elected leader has been putting this beautiful state in the wrong light.

    Come out with banners along the palace …. Daulat Tuanku … Daulat Tuanku … Daulat Tuanku …. you don’t need to demonstrate but you need to support His Majesty the King NOW !!!

    Daulat Tuanku … Daulat Tuanku … Daulat Tuanku ….Daulat Tuanku … Daulat Tuanku … Daulat Tuanku ….Daulat Tuanku … Daulat Tuanku … Daulat Tuanku ….

  6. #6 by billgates on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 10:11 am

    Will all those bloggers who gave a damn shit to critisize YB Kit now speak up and do the same for all the 23 biadap Aduns of UMNO?

  7. #7 by HJ Angus on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 10:15 am

    This fall-out between the palace and the capital is the most serious situation as far as the MBs are concerned.

    In Perlis, the majority did not sokong but this is different. It seems the palace is overruling the BN.

    I think it is not a new problem but something with a longer perspective.
    http://malaysiawatch3.blogspot.com/2008/03/terengganu-politics-is-there-more-to-it.html

  8. #8 by richard.wong8 on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 10:35 am

    All the 23 so called BN Adun is the actual Biadap. Never even give due respect not only the Sultan of Trengganu but also the King of Malaysia! As we all knew very well that all press is controlled by BN, surely this Utusan will not do the same as what they did to YB LKS.
    So…we all knew over and over again, double standards, lies, corruption, cronies etc so come 2013 or maybe much earlier (probably 2012, as the ’13′ is sway or bad luck for the PM), let’s vote PKR, DAP & PAS lor…..as lesson 1 never teach them, then teach them lesson 2, maybe 3……….

  9. #9 by mysn1st on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 10:39 am

    Saudara Md Asmawi Md Nor,
    Taniah kepada saudara yang telahpun peka kepada perkara yang telahpun berlaku sejak berpuluh tahun lalu. Saudara juga perlu menerangkan perkara sedemikian kepada saudara-saudara kamu yang kenal sebab saya percaya kebanyakan mereka (terutama kaum saudara) masih lagi terpengaruh oleh media sedemikian.

    Adalah adil and saksama kepada pihak tertentu jika kita menilai sesuatu dengan rational sebelum membuat sesuatu kenyataan.

    Saya juga mengalu-alukan saudara untuk berkomen tentang akhbar yang lain seperti akhbar cina atau tamil bila mereka melakukan perkara sedemikian.

  10. #10 by StevePCH on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 10:45 am

    Hehehehe …. come to think about it, if YDPA keep on appointing someone other than IJ to be MB , then he will be sacked by UMNO and so on ….. until IJ the only one UMNO member left. Ha ha … Then can set up the first Independent State in Trengganu …. Wow … LOL

  11. #11 by democrate on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 11:01 am

    I had made a call to the Editor on last Saturday after glancing at the Utusan Head Line claiming DAP Biadab was at the same time coming out from the mouth of our corrupted Mike Tyson.
    No one dare to face my call semua nya i tidak tahu ,it is just exactly the culture from our AAB the Mr. I dont know.
    Anyway Biadab and kurang ajar are applied to Umno as well as Editor of Utusan now unless they appologise to the trengganu Sultan otherwise , we, the RAKYAT WILL CALL the Utusan and Umno Kurang Ajar and Biadab……..Hurray!

  12. #12 by lakilompat on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 12:07 pm

    But UMNO claims they mempertahankan kedaulatan raja-raja Melayu, and now they are against the sultan / Agong ??
    I am confused !!

    Last time they hentam YB LKS kuat kuat in the press and media and even protest like wild monkeys on Komtar, but now they boikot pulak… threatening to kick own member out from UMNO.

    I used to respect Pak Lah, i thought he won’t lie but too bad he is lying.

    My opinion is supported by Tun Dr. Mahathir, i might be wrong but who can be wrong than a 3 term Prime Minister with 2/3 majority.

    Some one must give Pak Lah a slap in the face to ask him STOP LYING! personal opinion.

  13. #13 by gurkha on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 12:19 pm

    selama ini saya adalah antara ‘gurkha’ yang bekerja untuk menumbangkan BN, tak kiralah yang bertanding PAS/DAP/PKR ..

    jadi diharap tiada sesiapa diantara setiap parti ini sibuk bermain-main dengan sensitivi bangsa dan agama.. cuba tanya DAP siapa yang bantu jadi counting agent bagi peti undi P102 di saluran SK Jln 3, N26 secara percuma?

    TOLONG JANGAN BIADAP ..biar apa juga agama dan bangsa, tolong hormat-menghormati .. selama ini saya masih belum mendengar orang melayu Islam membantah keputusan urusan orang beragama hindu dalam kuilnya, urusan orang budha dalam tokongnya atau urusan orang kristian dalam gerejanya ..

    jadi biarkan orang Islam uruskan hal mereka dalam masjid dan mahkamah syariah mereka.. kenapa perlu sibuk-sibuk hal orang Islam dalam masjid dan mahkamah syariah mereka ..perlembagaan telah menjamin hak dan kebebasan beragama.. kenapa perlu orang agama lain campur tangan urusan orang Islam??

    asyik disebut-sebut kes Lina Joy..sudah terang dan jelas dia lahir dan membesar sebagai orang Islam.. jadi dia tertakluk kepada mahkamah orang islam jika dia nak keluar dari Islam.. Orang Islam tertakluk kepada undang-undang mereka, sama ada sejak lahir Islam atau sukarela menganut Islam ..

    CUKUPLAH ..jangan diganggu lagi hal ehwal agama orang lain.. balik kepada urusan bersama kita .. TUMBANGKAN BN, TADBIR MALAYSIA DENGAN PENUH BIJAKSANA.. BUKAN DENGAN PENUH PRASANGKA

  14. #14 by wag-the-dog on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 1:08 pm

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    It is inevitable the there is going to be a global economic crisis unlike the 1997 crash which started in the stock market, this has started in the core of the economy – Housing. In no time it will see our shores and our new cabinet has to be ready to face it. This two part article is to give us Malaysians a better understanding of this crisis preempt our government.

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  15. #15 by Malaysian For Equality on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 1:32 pm

    My concern here is the fact that Royalty may be exceeding their constitutional powers and this is dangerous for democracy. God forbid that we should go back to feudal times where Royalty were unaccountable and above the law.

    If anything one can make an argument that the Agung is being ‘biadap’ towards the constitution which as a constitutional monarch he has to follow. Remember Keluhuran Perlembagaan in Rukun Negara?

    If the majority of assemblyman support Idris Jusoh, then the Sultan has no choice but to appoint him. Unless he is invoking his ‘emergency’ powers, then His Royal Highness owes the Rakyat a proper explanation.

  16. #16 by StevePCH on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 2:20 pm

    Well … be it constitution or not. The problem here lies with Idris Jusoh’s fall out with Palace and BN’s arrogance.
    If the Sultan think that he is not suitable , someone elses from BN can take over his post. Problem is … IJ and AAB … there is just something very fishy.
    YDPA is not a fool. The monarchy know’s their role and he did not appoint anyone from PAS as MB. If that is the case, then I would say that we are in big trouble.
    It has got to do with IJ / AAB and BN. that we will be able to see soon.

  17. #17 by lakilompat on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 3:00 pm

    There are good constitution and bad constitution, it has become obvious that BN has make use of it’s constitution right to boycott its own members so that certain individual can benefit from it especially the cronies. Today these ppl can use constitution to bring you down, can they use it for corruption (the more the merrier)? Why not, if every leader start discriminate a specific person? the old will become powerful the young and innocence will have no chance to rise to represent the Rakyat.

    I’m glad Malaysia has a good constitution clause whereby the Sultan can refuse and offer the MB post to candidates who is deem to be more suitable.

  18. #18 by fjjs on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 3:51 pm

    I read this interesting revelation in MT related to Trenggannu also known as Bright Rainbow. Daulat Tuanku, Daulat Tuanku, Daulat Tuanku.

    Monsoon (Cup) winds of change
    Posted by Raja Petra
    Monday, 24 March 2008

    Mat Said is a fighter. And even as a ‘nobody’ he stood his ground against an outraged Eric Chia who was foaming at the mouth while screaming the Prime Minister’s name. No Chinese gangster or Menteri Besar or even the most powerful Prime Minister could shake him. And that is the kind of Menteri Besar His Majesty the Agong would like as head of his state government.

    THE CORRIDORS OF POWER

    Raja Petra Kamarudin

    Guano pulok puak-puak Amno ni bekeng sangat? Dah Tuanku amboh, amboh lah! Mende nak main paksa-paksa pulok? Bila menatang Cheena buat kacau kat Perak, bising. Ni, menatang Amno pulok nak tunjuk bekeng. Beso kemaluang Ganu kite.

    That is probably what the Kuala Terengganu folks at the Pasar Payang wet market are lamenting. When the Rulers keep quiet, the rakyat complain and question the purpose of retaining the Monarchy if the Rulers do not earn their salary. However, when they do act, the raykat complain and accuse the Rulers of getting involved in politics. The Rulers must work for the people, argue the rakyat. The bottom line is, the rakyat don’t really know what they want.

    In the 1990s, a well-known Malaysian business magazine reported that Terengganu is the second richest state after Selangor but its rakyat are the second poorest after Perlis. The Kelantan Menteri Besar, Tok Guru Nik Aziz Nik Mat, retorted that Kelantan may be poor compared to Terengganu, but its people are rich. “Kekayaan Kelantan di tangan rakyat,” said Nik Aziz. Kelantenese, Nik Aziz stressed, do not need to depend on the government. They will travel far and wide, even to Singapore, to earn their living. And they will send money back to the state to help prop up its economy.

    This is true. You can find a Kampong Kelantan in Singapore but not a Kampong Terengganu or Kampong Kedah or whatever. And Kelantanese will go back to Kelantan to pay their zakat (tithe) so that the money can go to the state and not to the federal government. And that is why the federal government attempted to nationalise the zakat collection — they wanted to deny the state the money. But Kelantanese are stubborn and they are in fact proud that they can survive without federal funding and in spite of being squeezed of federal funding.

    Take their water supply as one example. Kelantanese are being denied clean water because the federal government will not give the state the money it needs to improve its water supply. Because of this many have died of cholera over the last two decades but the Kelantanese refuse to hand the state back to Barisan Nasional although by doing so they could then get clean water and would no longer suffer so many deaths. Kelantanese treat the high number of deaths and the loss of their loved ones as ‘collateral damage’ which one has to endure when opposing the federal government. Yes, they are sad that many have to die, but in any struggle people die and the struggle against the tyranny of the federal government overrides all other considerations.

    Terengganu, however, is not like Kelantan. The people of Terengganu are not so stubborn or resilient. ‘Ganu’ means rainbow and ‘terang’ means bright. Kelantanese used to refer to the land south of their state as ‘bright rainbow’ and that is how the state eventually became known as Terengganu. Terengganu, of course, has gold and the English say that at the end of the rainbow you will find gold. But there is not that much gold really. Sure you can find some, although it may not be that economically viable to mine it on a large-scale or commercial basis. But what it lacks in yellow gold it more than makes up for in ‘black gold’.

    And that is why Terengganu is the second richest state, because of its black gold. But in spite of its black gold and in spite of it being the second richest state, its citizens are the second poorest and even Sabah, Sarawak and Kelantan are far ahead. That is what the popular Malaysian business magazine reported in the 1990s.

    In 1999, the Terengganu voters decided to give the state to the opposition for a change. A few months later, the federal government punished Terengganu by withdrawing its 5% oil royalty that it was entitled to under the Petroleum Development Act 1974. The money, which at that time came to RM800 million a year, was handed over to Idris Jusoh, the head of Umno Terengganu, to manage; and from 2000 to 2004 he managed the money as his personal petty cash.

    The Terengganu voters realised that they could get their hands on what had now grown to RM1 billion a year only if they gave the state back to Umno. And they did just that in March 2004 and Idris Jusoh was installed as the new Menteri Besar. But while the state went back to Umno, the RM1 billion a year did not go back to the state. The money remained in the hands of the Prime Minister’s Department and control of the money shifted from Idris Jusoh to Wan Farid Wan Salleh, Abdullah Ahmad Badawi’s Political Secretary, and Patrick Lim, whom Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad calls Patrick Badawi.

    So it was no different then. Whether Umno or the opposition rules the state, the RM1 billion a year will still not go to the state but would instead be in the hands of two or three individuals, to be used and abused as they see fit. On 8 March 2008, the Terengganu people wanted to hand the state back to the opposition. Umno knew this and what was at stake was not just control of the state but control of the RM1 billion a year that came with it. So thousands of Bangladeshi voters were ‘imported’ into Terengganu to ensure that Umno would be able to make a clean sweep of the state. And the hundreds of bus-loads of voters were escorted into Terengganu by police and army trucks to ensure that the opposition supporters would not be able to make any ‘citizens’ arrest’ of phantom voters. And so Umno, yet again, swept the state like it did four years before that in March 2004.

    But one thing that Umno could not control is His Majesty the Agong who is also the Sultan of Terengganu. Tuanku knows what is going on and Tuanku also knows how the cheating is being done to perpetuate Umno’s rule in the state just so that the RM1 billion a year can continue to be manipulated, exploited, and abused. And Tuanku sought legal advice on what the Federal Constitution of Malaysia and the Terengganu State Constitution have to say about the appointment of the political head of the state government. And so Tuanku rejected Abdullah’s choice of Menteri Besar, Idris Jusoh, and instead made his own choice, Ahmad Said. And a few well-known lawyers are ready to spring into action to defend Tuanku if the federal government decides to challenge Mat Said’s appointment in court.

    Mat Said is no pushover. When Eric Chia was heading Perwaja, he embarked on a housing project and started building the houses even before the Kemaman local council could approve the project. Mat Said stepped in and issued a stop-work order. Eric Chia was outraged. He complained to Menteri Besar Wan Mokhtar Wan Ahmad and said that he reported direct to the Prime Minister and has carte blanche to do what he likes.

    But Mat Said would not back down, Prime Minister or no Prime Minister. He even went against his own direct boss, Wan Mokhtar. The law is the law and even the CEO of Perwaja, the Menteri Besar of Terengganu, and the Prime Minister of Malaysia are not exempted from obeying the law. This was just a YDP of the Kemaman local council but he took on the giants and refused to back down and finally won when the all-powerful Eric Chia was forced to halt construction until all his papers are in order.

    Mat Said is a fighter. And even as a ‘nobody’ he stood his ground against an outraged Eric Chia who was foaming at the mouth while screaming the Prime Minister’s name. No Chinese gangster or Menteri Besar or even the most powerful Prime Minister could shake him. And that is the kind of Menteri Besar His Majesty the Agong would like as head of his state government.

    Terengganu has only about four years left. According to Petronas, after 2012 there will be no more oil in Terengganu. Four years at RM1 billion a year is merely RM4 billion. This RM4 billion will disappear in four years if Idris Jusoh is installed as Menteri Besar. And, in 2013, Terengganu will revert to being just a fishing village like what it was in 1973 before they discovered oil.

    Yes, it was a great 40 years. But the 40 years which started in 1973 will end before 2013 is out. Terengganu can choose to allow Idris Jusoh to run the state and therefore allow the RM4 billion to finish by 2012 or they can instead ask Mat Said to run the state and ensure that the RM4 billion will last till 2020. His Majesty would rather choose the latter.

    Seven of the eight Umno divisions in Terengganu support Mat Said. Thus far, 20 of the 32 State Assemblymen have confessed that they also support His Majesty’s choice of Menteri Besar. Why then did 23 of them declare that they support Idris Jusoh? They allege that they were ‘locked up’ and forced to sign the letter of support so they had no choice but to do so. Since seven of the eight Umno divisions want Mat Said and since more than half the State Assemblymen also support His Majesty’s choice, then it is in compliance with the State Constitution that Idris Jusoh be rejected in favour of Mat Said.

    The same thing happened in the State of Perlis. When two of the three Umno divisions and ten of the fifteen State Assemblymen rejected Shahidan Kassim, Abdullah’s choice of Menteri Besar, the Raja of Perlis acted within his Constitutional right by rejecting Shahidan. Anyway, this so-called ‘Constitutional Crisis’ was expected and had been looming over the horizon for quite some time now. Malaysia Today had in fact addressed this awhile back but, as Tun Dr Mahathir is fond of saying, Melayu mudah lupa. To those who have already lupa, allow us to refresh your memory. We re-publish below an article which was published before this and which addresses what the real issue is really about, the ‘crisis’ which the mainstream newspapers are trying to pass off as, kononnya, a ‘Constitutional Crisis’.

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    One thing that Malaysia Today would like to raise is the matter of Terengganu’s oil royalty which we hope Mahathir will address on 28 July. Since the mid-1970s, Terengganu had been enjoying a 5% royalty on all the oil and gas extracted in the state. That is what is provided for under the Petroleum Development Act. In fact, not only Terengganu, but any state in Malaysia where oil and gas is extracted they would enjoy the same. However, in 2000, this royalty was withdrawn and converted to Wang Ehsan (goodwill money). Suddenly, the RM800 million or so a year that Terengganu was supposed to get as its 5% share of the oil and gas revenue was transferred out of the state and into the hands of one man, Idris Jusoh.

    Malaysia was then already suffering from an outbreak of JE. But in Terengganu it was JE of another kind, Jusoh Enterprise, Idris Jusoh’s family business. Jusoh Enterprise or JE was suddenly flush with funds, RM800 million a year to be exact. Then, in 2004, Umno, under the stewardship of Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, won back the state from the opposition. But the state did not win back its 5% oil royalty. The Wang Ehsan continued and Idris Jusoh, who now became the Chief Minister, continued to single-handedly manage the fund. Even the State Economic Development Corporation (SEDC) and the Terengganu State Economic Planning Unit (UPENT) were left totally in the dark. One man, Idris Jusoh, decided how the money was spent, and it is a lot of money.

    But the new Prime Minister, Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, would not tolerate one man managing the state’s coffers. He wanted Idris Jusoh’s hands out of the RM800 million a year cash box. However, to revert to the 5% royalty only meant that the money would come directly under state control. That would not serve their purpose. They wanted direct control of the RM800 million. Now it is under the control of the Prime Minister’s Department but passed down to Idris Jusoh’s hands. What they needed to do was to get Idris Jusoh’s hands out of the equation.

    Then Khairy Jamaluddin, Abdullah’s son-in-law cum adviser, came out with a fantastic new ‘umbrella concept’, better than even Mahathir’s. They wanted control of the RM800 million a year. But they did not want to get it out of Idris Jusoh’s hands by putting it into the hands of the state. That would merely be a case of out of the frying pan, into the fire. They wanted direct control of the money without Idris Jusoh deciding on how the money is spent.

    And this is how they did it. First they appointed Wan Farid, Khairy’s ‘running dog’, as Abdullah’s Political Secretary. Then they appointed Wan Hisham, Wan Farid’s brother, as the State Exco Member in-charge of tourism. Then they gave Patrick Lim, Khairy’s business partner, the sole monopoly of all state tourism projects. Now the network is intact and Idris Jusoh has been cut off.

    Patrick Lim’s job is to create all sorts of state tourism projects at hugely inflated prices. He would then propose these projects to Wan Hisham, the man in-charge of tourism. Wan Hisham would then pass them on to his brother, Wan Farid. Wan Farid would then pass them on to Khairy. Idris Jusoh would of course be left out of the loop and he would only know about them when it was a fait accompli — as the Malays would say, “Nasi sudah jadi bubur.”

    They built 30 houses at RM1 million each on an island in the Trengganu River . They launched a RM300 million a year yacht race called the Monsoon Cup. Hundreds of millions a year is being spent to ‘attract tourists to Terengganu’. It seems this year the amount of Wang Ehsan has shot up from RM800 million to RM1 billion — so there is even more money to play around with.

    To ensure that Idris Jusoh keeps his hands out of the cash box, Abdullah himself chairs the state meetings though he is the Prime Minister and not the Terengganu Chief Minister. Of course, Idris Jusoh, being the Chief Minister, is allowed to sit in on these meetings though he has no say on what they propose. Patrick Lim, though he is not in the government, is also allowed to attend these meetings.

    Abdullah would then propose all sorts of tourism projects conjured by Wan Hisham, Wan Farid and Khairy. Details are of course not discussed; only the gist of things and the amounts involved. Whenever Idris Jusoh raises any questions, he would be told to ‘leave it all to Patrick Lim who knows what to do’. Idris Jusoh is not to involve himself in the details.

    After awhile Idris Jusoh got quite pissed and tried to resist. One project that he knew nothing about was placed before him and he was told by Patrick Lim to sign the papers. But how could he sign the papers when he knew nothing about it and would eventually have to bear responsibility for it?

    Patrick Lim walked out of Idris Jusoh’s office and phoned Wan Farid who complained to Khairy. Within an hour Idris Jusoh received a phone call from Abdullah who ordered him to sign the papers, which he of course did straight away.

    Patrick Lim’s hold on Abdullah was apparent to all but somehow not to Idris Jusoh. One day Abdullah visited Terengganu to chair the regular meetings on how to spend Terengganu’s RM800 million (which is now RM1 billion because of the increase in oil prices). Idris Jusoh fetched Abdullah from the airport but before his car could move Patrick Lim’s car cut in front of Idris Jusoh’s car and Abdullah got out of Idris Jusoh’s car and got into Patrick Lim’s car. Idris Jusoh should have realised then who really runs Terengganu.

    Yes, RM1 billion a year is a lot of money. This money, which should belong to Terengganu, is not going to the state. It is going to Wan Hisham, Wan Farid, Patrick Lim and Khairy. And Abdullah chairs the state meetings to decide how the money is spent. And Wan Hisham, Wan Farid, Patrick Lim and Khairy help spend the money. And they spend it all. And Idris Jusoh has no say in how it is spent. And if he refuses to sign the papers he will get a phone call from Abdullah.

    Now do you know who runs this country? Abdullah says he and not his son-in-law runs this country. Idris Jusoh however will tell you that Khairy runs this country. And Khairy also runs Terengganu and manages its RM1 billion a year through Wan Hisham, Wan Farid and Patrick Lim. And Abdullah chairs the Terengganu State meetings on behalf of Khairy and according to the plan on how Patrick Lim wishes to spend the RM1 billion a year.

    And now do you know why Mahathir is so pissed? And he has every reason to be pissed. In fact, I too am pissed. And that is why I agree that Mahathir stays pissed with Abdullah and his son-in-law. The Terengganu issue alone is enough for me to get pissed. And rest assured that Terengganu is but the tip of the iceberg.

    Yes, it is nice being able to walk in the corridors of power. And much can you do when you walk in the corridors of power. And RM1 billion a year is nice to manage if you have that power to do so. And when you walk in the corridors of power you would of course have that power.

  19. #19 by controlnation1 on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 5:41 pm

    Lets be honest about this.We are not really supporting the Sultans action of appointing anyone that he pleased because that is against the principle of democracy.This however provide us with windows of opportunity to criticise UMNO and their hipocrital practice.

    One should never however endorse the Sultans action of appointing anyone that he like as this will contribute to more problem than solution.What happen if the oppositions are in the same situation as those Terengganu.Just because the Sultan dont like that person he could boot him whenever he pleased.That is totally against the principle of democracy.

    To complicate the matter our country had more than one monarch and each of them cost the peoples money and they are not even elected unlike the BN wakil rakyat that we sorta despice of.

    Remember, with the monarchy system we get discriminatory laws such as non muslim/malay cant be MB,need certain amount of malays as excos and so on.

    Sure we had the rukun negara but it was written by UMNO.We ha constitution but it is written by foreigners.

    rukun negara number 2:

    Kesetiaan pada raja.

    I know this might sound “loyar buruk”,but really we dont have Rajas.we have Sultans.

  20. #20 by dapforever on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 8:03 pm

    KEPERCAYAAN KEPADA TUHAN
    KESETIAAN KEPADA RAJA DAN NEGARA
    KELUHURAN PERLEMBAGAAN
    KEDAULATAN UNDANG-UNDANG
    KESOPANAN DAN KESUSILAAN

    These are the FIVE RUKUN NEGARA MALAYSIA.
    It’s obvious UMNO failed nearly all of the above.
    Where is the “KESETIAAN KEPADA RAJA DAN NEGARA”?

  21. #21 by ktteokt on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 8:14 pm

    dapforever, don’t just read the final portion of the rukunegara. you should read the whole text and especially the words “membina sebuah masyarakat yang adil” in the preamble. tell me how much has been done towards realizing these words? if at all the masyarakat set up by bn is adil, then why does malay special rights still persist? can there be adil when these special rights are still in force.

  22. #22 by Guane on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 8:28 pm

    I am a Terengganu-ian & I support the Sultan of Terengganu. The issue here is that the Sultan really understands the Terengganu people’s real frutrations, but Idris, the PM, KJ & Patrick Badawi dont. The bad guys (known as JE = Jusoh Enterprise, similar to the deadly Japanese Encephalitis Virus) have robbed the Terenggau people of its yearly RM1.0bil oil royalty money. How do u explain the fact that Terengganu is the 2nd richest state in Malaysia but with the 2nd highest poverty rate in Malaysia? Can the PM & ex-MB of Terengganu explain what happened to the royalty money? Hhhmmm…….the Terengganu people all know……..it went to the yearly RM350.0mil Monsoon Cup arranged by Patrick & his honchos which the poor Terengganu folks dont even benefit. what about the Masjid Kristal project that even the Muslims cant use for praying?? Now that’s why the rakyat of Terengganu including me is so pissed off…..& the Sultan knows this………DAULAT TUANKU

  23. #23 by pendekar on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 8:57 pm

    Ambil tindakan undang-undang kepada sesiapa yang tidak menghormati Sultan dan Raja ….
    tidak menghormati Raja adalah mencemarkan rukun negara.
    Sepatutnya pemimpim mesti memegang teguh kepada rukun negara
    Lihat balik rukun negara no 2
    Kepercayaan kepada Tuhan (Belief in God)
    Kesetiaan kepada Raja dan Negara (Loyalty to King and Country)
    Keluhuran Perlembagaan (Supremacy of the Constitution)
    Kedaulatan Undang-Undang (The Rule of Law)
    Kesopanan dan Kesusilaan (Mutual respect and good social behaviour)

  24. #24 by dapforever on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 9:05 pm

    Agreed with Guane…the Sultan knew about it…that’s why BN dun want to give up till they want to boikot….Terrengganu is a rich states just that the money dun flow in to the people for development but flow out to those who has the power to influent…Terrengganu is one of the BN primary resources…

  25. #25 by DAPPKR on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 9:08 pm

    its predictable to how PM UMNO & CO will handle these issues

    when things are not going their way. Why there wasnt much fuss

    when the Perlis MB of PM choice was rejected? Why the special

    attention the PM & UMNO giving to the Terengganu MB chaos?

    Keep an OPEN eyes to this! something fishy…

  26. #26 by dapforever on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 9:14 pm

    hi DAPPKR,
    When there is an abudant “gold” in Terrenganu, people will try to conquer and protect their interest.

  27. #27 by suarakami on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 9:24 pm

    KENAPA AGUNG TAK SUKA IDRIS JUSOH

    One thing that Malaysia Today would like to raise is the matter of
    Terengganu’s oil royalty which we hope Mahathir will address on 28
    July. Since the mid-1970s, Terengganu had been enjoying a 5% royalty
    on all the oil and gas extracted in the state. That is what is
    provided for under the Petroleum Development Act. In fact, not only
    Terengganu, but any state in Malaysia where oil and gas is extracted
    they would enjoy the same. However, in 2000, this royalty was
    withdrawn and converted to Wang Ehsan (goodwill money). Suddenly, the
    RM800 million or so a year that Terengganu was supposed to get as its
    5% share of the oil and gas revenue was transferred out of the state
    and into the hands of one man, Idris Jusoh.

    Malaysia was then already suffering from an outbreak of JE. But in
    Terengganu it was JE of another kind, Jusoh Enterprise, Idris Jusoh’s
    family business. Jusoh Enterprise or JE was suddenly flush with funds,
    RM800 million a year to be exact. Then, in 2004, Umno, under the
    stewardship of Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, won back the state from the
    opposition. But the state did not win back its 5% oil royalty. The
    Wang Ehsan continued and Idris Jusoh, who now became the Chief
    Minister, continued to single-handedly manage the fund. Even the State
    Economic Development Corporation (SEDC) and the Terengganu State
    Economic Planning Unit (UPENT) were left totally in the dark. One man,
    Idris Jusoh, decided how the money was spent, and it is a lot of
    money.

    But the new Prime Minister, Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, would not tolerate
    one man managing the state’s coffers. He wanted Idris Jusoh’s hands
    out of the RM800 million a year cash box. However, to revert to the 5%
    royalty only meant that the money would come directly under state
    control. That would not serve their purpose. They wanted direct
    control of the RM800 million. Now it was under the control of the
    Prime Minister’s Department but passed down to Idris Jusoh’s hands.
    What they needed to do was to get Idris Jusoh’s hands out of the
    equation.

    Then Khairy Jamaluddin, Abdullah’s son-in-law cum adviser, came out
    with a fantastic new ‘umbrella concept’, better than even Mahathir’s.
    They wanted control of the RM800 million a year. But they did not want
    to get it out of Idris Jusoh’s hands by putting it into the hands of
    the state. That would merely be a case of out of the frying pan, into
    the fire. They wanted direct control of the money without Idris Jusoh
    deciding on how the money is spent.

    And this is how they did it.

    First they appointed Wan Farid, Khairy’s ‘running dog’, as Abdullah’s
    Political Secretary. Then they appointed Wan Hisham, Wan Farid’s
    brother, as the State Exco Member in-charge of tourism. Then they gave
    Patrick Lim, Khairy’s business partner, the sole monopoly of all state
    tourism projects. Now the network is intact and Idris Jusoh has been
    cut off.

    Patrick Lim’s job is to create all sorts of state tourism projects at
    hugely inflated prices. He would then propose these projects to Wan
    Hisham, the man in-charge of tourism. Wan Hisham would then pass them
    on to his brother, Wan Farid. Wan Farid would then pass them on to
    Khairy. Idris Jusoh would of course be left out of the loop and he
    would only know about them when it was a fait accompli — as the
    Malays would say, “Nasi sudah jadi bubur.”

    They built 30 houses at RM1 million each on an island in the
    Terengganu River. They launched a RM300 million a year yacht race
    called the Monsoon Cup. Hundreds of millions a year is being spent to
    ‘attract tourists to Terengganu’. It seems this year the amount of
    Wang Ehsan has shot up from RM800 million to RM1 billion — so there
    is even more money to play around with.

    To ensure that Idris Jusoh keeps his hands out of the cash box,
    Abdullah himself chairs the state meetings though he is the Prime
    Minister and not the Terengganu Chief Minister. Of course, Idris
    Jusoh, being the Chief Minister, is allowed to sit in on these
    meetings though he has no say on what they propose. Patrick Lim,
    though he is not in the government, is also allowed to attend these
    meetings.

    Abdullah would then propose all sorts of tourism projects conjured by
    Wan Hisham, Wan Farid and Khairy. Details are of course not discussed;
    only the gist of things and the amounts involved. Whenever Idris Jusoh
    raises any questions, he would be told to ‘leave it all to Patrick Lim
    who knows what to do’. Idris Jusoh is not to involve himself in the
    details.

    After awhile Idris Jusoh got quite pissed and tried to resist. One
    project that he knew nothing about was placed before him and he was
    told by Patrick Lim to sign the papers. But how could he sign the
    papers when he knew nothing about it and would eventually have to bear
    responsibility for it?

    Patrick Lim walked out of Idris Jusoh’s office and phoned Wan Farid
    who complained to Khairy. Within an hour Idris Jusoh received a phone
    call from Abdullah who ordered him to sign the papers, which he of
    course did straight away.

    Patrick Lim’s hold on Abdullah was apparent to all but somehow not to
    Idris Jusoh. One day Abdullah visited Terengganu to chair the regular
    meetings on how to spend Terengganu’s RM800 million (which is now RM1
    billion because of the increase in oil prices). Idris Jusoh fetched
    Abdullah from the airport but before his car could move Patrick Lim’s
    car cut in front of Idris Jusoh’s car and Abdullah got out of Idris
    Jusoh’s car and got into Patrick Lim’s car. Idris Jusoh should have
    realised then who really runs Terengganu.

    Yes, RM1 billion a year is a lot of money. This money, which should
    belong to Terengganu, is not going to the state. It is going to Wan
    Hisham, Wan Farid, Patrick Lim and Khairy. And Abdullah chairs the
    state meetings to decide how the money is spent. And Wan Hisham, Wan
    Farid, Patrick Lim and Khairy help spend the money. And they spend it
    all. And Idris Jusoh has no say in how it is spent. And if he refuses
    to sign the papers he will get a phone call from Abdullah.

    Now do you know who runs this country? Abdullah says he and not his
    son-in-law runs this country. Idris Jusoh however will tell you that
    Khairy runs this country. And Khairy also runs Terengganu and manages
    its RM1 billion a year through Wan Hisham, Wan Farid and Patrick Lim.
    And Abdullah chairs the Terengganu State meetings on behalf of Khairy
    and according to the plan on how Patrick Lim wishes to spend the RM1
    billion a year.

    And now do you know why Mahathir is so pissed? And he has every reason
    to be pissed. In fact, I too am pissed. And that is why I agree that
    Mahathir stays pissed with Abdullah and his son-in-law. The Terengganu
    issue alone is enough for me to get pissed. And rest assured that
    Terengganu is but the tip of the iceberg.

    Yes, it is nice being able to walk in the corridors of power. And much
    can you do when you walk in the corridors of power. And RM1 billion a
    year is nice to manage if you have that power to do so. And when you
    walk in the corridors of power you would of course have that power

  28. #28 by DAPPKR on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 9:25 pm

    yeah i guess it is to protect their interest

    which is the RICHNESS…@Hs

  29. #29 by suarakami on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 9:27 pm

    KENAPA AGUNG TAK SUKA IDRIS JUSOH

    One thing that Malaysia Today would like to raise is the matter of
    Terengganu’s oil royalty which we hope Mahathir will address on 28
    July. Since the mid-1970s, Terengganu had been enjoying a 5% royalty on all the oil and gas extracted in the state. That is what is
    provided for under the Petroleum Development Act. In fact, not only Terengganu, but any state in Malaysia where oil and gas is extracted they would enjoy the same. However, in 2000, this royalty was withdrawn and converted to Wang Ehsan (goodwill money). Suddenly, the RM800 million or so a year that Terengganu was supposed to get as its 5% share of the oil and gas revenue was transferred out of the state and into the hands of one man, Idris Jusoh.

    Malaysia was then already suffering from an outbreak of JE. But in
    Terengganu it was JE of another kind, Jusoh Enterprise, Idris Jusoh’s family business. Jusoh Enterprise or JE was suddenly flush with funds, RM800 million a year to be exact. Then, in 2004, Umno, under the stewardship of Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, won back the state from the opposition. But the state did not win back its 5% oil royalty. The Wang Ehsan continued and Idris Jusoh, who now became the Chief Minister, continued to single-handedly manage the fund. Even the State Economic Development Corporation (SEDC) and the Terengganu State Economic Planning Unit (UPENT) were left totally in the dark. One man, Idris Jusoh, decided how the money was spent, and it is a lot of money.

    But the new Prime Minister, Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, would not tolerate one man managing the state’s coffers. He wanted Idris Jusoh’s hands out of the RM800 million a year cash box. However, to revert to the 5% royalty only meant that the money would come directly under state control. That would not serve their purpose. They wanted direct control of the RM800 million. Now it was under the control of the Prime Minister’s Department but passed down to Idris Jusoh’s hands. What they needed to do was to get Idris Jusoh’s hands out of the equation.

    Then Khairy Jamaluddin, Abdullah’s son-in-law cum adviser, came out with a fantastic new ‘umbrella concept’, better than even Mahathir’s. They wanted control of the RM800 million a year. But they did not want to get it out of Idris Jusoh’s hands by putting it into the hands of the state. That would merely be a case of out of the frying pan, into the fire. They wanted direct control of the money without Idris Jusoh deciding on how the money is spent.

    And this is how they did it.

    First they appointed Wan Farid, Khairy’s ‘running dog’, as Abdullah’s
    Political Secretary. Then they appointed Wan Hisham, Wan Farid’s
    brother, as the State Exco Member in-charge of tourism. Then they gave Patrick Lim, Khairy’s business partner, the sole monopoly of all state tourism projects. Now the network is intact and Idris Jusoh has been cut off.

    Patrick Lim’s job is to create all sorts of state tourism projects at
    hugely inflated prices. He would then propose these projects to Wan Hisham, the man in-charge of tourism. Wan Hisham would then pass them on to his brother, Wan Farid. Wan Farid would then pass them on to Khairy. Idris Jusoh would of course be left out of the loop and he would only know about them when it was a fait accompli — as the Malays would say, “Nasi sudah jadi bubur.”

    They built 30 houses at RM1 million each on an island in the
    Terengganu River. They launched a RM300 million a year yacht race
    called the Monsoon Cup. Hundreds of millions a year is being spent to ‘attract tourists to Terengganu’. It seems this year the amount of Wang Ehsan has shot up from RM800 million to RM1 billion — so there is even more money to play around with.

    To ensure that Idris Jusoh keeps his hands out of the cash box,
    Abdullah himself chairs the state meetings though he is the Prime
    Minister and not the Terengganu Chief Minister. Of course, Idris
    Jusoh, being the Chief Minister, is allowed to sit in on these
    meetings though he has no say on what they propose. Patrick Lim,
    though he is not in the government, is also allowed to attend these
    meetings.

    Abdullah would then propose all sorts of tourism projects conjured by Wan Hisham, Wan Farid and Khairy. Details are of course not discussed; only the gist of things and the amounts involved. Whenever Idris Jusoh raises any questions, he would be told to ‘leave it all to Patrick Lim who knows what to do’. Idris Jusoh is not to involve himself in the details.

    After awhile Idris Jusoh got quite pissed and tried to resist. One
    project that he knew nothing about was placed before him and he was told by Patrick Lim to sign the papers. But how could he sign the papers when he knew nothing about it and would eventually have to bear responsibility for it?

    Patrick Lim walked out of Idris Jusoh’s office and phoned Wan Farid
    who complained to Khairy. Within an hour Idris Jusoh received a phone call from Abdullah who ordered him to sign the papers, which he of course did straight away.

    Patrick Lim’s hold on Abdullah was apparent to all but somehow not to Idris Jusoh. One day Abdullah visited Terengganu to chair the regular meetings on how to spend Terengganu’s RM800 million (which is now RM1 billion because of the increase in oil prices). Idris Jusoh fetched Abdullah from the airport but before his car could move Patrick Lim’s car cut in front of Idris Jusoh’s car and Abdullah got out of Idris Jusoh’s car and got into Patrick Lim’s car. Idris Jusoh should have realised then who really runs Terengganu.

    Yes, RM1 billion a year is a lot of money. This money, which should
    belong to Terengganu, is not going to the state. It is going to Wan
    Hisham, Wan Farid, Patrick Lim and Khairy. And Abdullah chairs the
    state meetings to decide how the money is spent. And Wan Hisham, Wan Farid, Patrick Lim and Khairy help spend the money. And they spend it all. And Idris Jusoh has no say in how it is spent. And if he refuses to sign the papers he will get a phone call from Abdullah.

    Now do you know who runs this country? Abdullah says he and not his son-in-law runs this country. Idris Jusoh however will tell you that Khairy runs this country. And Khairy also runs Terengganu and manages its RM1 billion a year through Wan Hisham, Wan Farid and Patrick Lim. And Abdullah chairs the Terengganu State meetings on behalf of Khairy and according to the plan on how Patrick Lim wishes to spend the RM1 billion a year.

    And now do you know why Mahathir is so pissed? And he has every reason to be pissed. In fact, I too am pissed. And that is why I agree that Mahathir stays pissed with Abdullah and his son-in-law. The Terengganu issue alone is enough for me to get pissed. And rest assured that Terengganu is but the tip of the iceberg.

    Yes, it is nice being able to walk in the corridors of power. And much can you do when you walk in the corridors of power. And RM1 billion a year is nice to manage if you have that power to do so. And when you walk in the corridors of power you would of course have that power

  30. #30 by Malaysian For Equality on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 10:22 pm

    We Malaysians are all for the interests of the people of Terengganu who have been terribly short-changed by UMNO abuse.

    As long as Said has the support of the majority of his assemblymen, then the constitution will not be violated. I suppose the Sultan knows these UMNO types. Initially there was all this ‘solidarity’ with Jusoh but that is melting away as we speak and the Sultan looks like getting his way. Anyway, Abdullah is so weak he simply cannot take on the Agung and alienate the Malay ground further. If Abdullah had moral authority the case would be different. His reason for keeping Jusoh is purely to fill UMNO and his cronies coffers, surely a despicable reason when the people of Terengganu are suffering.

    When Mahathir took on the Royalty early in his tenure he had the support of the Rakyat. This is not the case now, as Abdullah is a lame duck PM. He squandered a golden opportunity to put right the wrongs of the Mahathir era in 2004 when he had a landslide victory.He decided to ‘retire’ and leave the running of the country to his now infamous and politically illiterate son-in-law. He is now paying for abdicating the responsibillity which was entrusted to him. He has lost the not only the non-Malay ground but crucially the Malay ground is abandoning him.

    It looks as though Abdullah will not last long now. He has been badly been damaged with his tussle with the Royalty. Why back an utterly corrupt MB when you are so weak politically. He should have approved the Sultan’s choice to give himself political breathing space to consolidate his position in UMNO. Now he has enemies in UMNO, PAS, PKR , DAP and the Agung to boot!

  31. #31 by St.Anger on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 11:24 pm

    You’re so right.. Md. Asmawi Md. Nor.. and know this.. You rawks!!!

  32. #32 by LadyGodiva on Tuesday, 25 March 2008 - 4:49 am

    “This is not just politics. I think financial interests have to do with it. They (the sultans) are not happy since the politicians are having a free hand in business.” Some of the nine royal families are involved in business.”

    It is all about money! It is not about the rakyat! Don’t be fooled.

    http://www.iht.com/articles/reuters/2008/03/24/asia/OUKWD-UK-MALAYSIA-POLITICS.php

  33. #33 by sotong on Tuesday, 25 March 2008 - 6:16 am

    gurkha,

    The issue is not Islam……it is the decades of narrow, shallow and damaging politics of religion to gain support and retain power at all costs.

    The fact that there are Islamic terrorists involving some Malaysian Muslims in the bombing of Bali speaks volume of unchecked and dangerous Islamic extremism and fundamentalism in the country.

    Politics in the country is dirty, narrow and damaging…..when you mix religion with politics, religion will be grossly tainted.

  34. #34 by pjboy on Tuesday, 25 March 2008 - 9:47 am

    Some stunning revelations by Suara_Kami. Thanks for sharing.

    Whatever it is, let’s hope the Oil-$ (if 5% = RM1B…where is the other 95%=>RM19B?) under the new Terengganu-CM, it will be well distributed for the poor Terengganu bro & sis. I heard that the Kristal Masjid got a RM5 taxi boat fee to ride across to get to the Masjid. Is it true??? Otherwise, one is forced to drive one big circle (30-60min) to get there. What’s the logic if true?

    I am planning my next holiday to travel around Kelantan next! Many beautiful buddhist temples to visit. Best information to get is from locals – not MTDC.

  35. #35 by lakilompat on Tuesday, 25 March 2008 - 10:20 am

    To Malaysian For Equality,

    Pak Lah is digging his own grave now, how can the old man listen to Khairy? Khairy is passing him a spade to dig the grave deeper so that he won’t get disturb once he step down. This has proven Oxford textbook politic has failed Khairy, has blinded the PM and the judgement day is approaching.

  36. #36 by pjboy on Tuesday, 25 March 2008 - 12:37 pm

    KLCC Twin Towers belong to Kelantanese & Terengganu people. Built by Petronas Oil-$$$. Where are the royalties for these 2 poor states for profits generated by KLCC Properties Holdings Bhd? No proper clean water supply & other basic amenities for the poor…but can spend RM350M for Monsoon Cup (very proud of it also). High mortality rate due to these lack of basic amenities & what does the BN do, blame PAS. The BN owe the people of Kelantan & Terengganu for all the lost years for their sufferring & raping its resources for a benefit of a few. Kelantan people suffered only to defy what they deem as evil. Terengganu people now open their eyes through the indirect messages sent from the palace. Tun Salleh Abbas also made a stunning revelation to the people in a video in Malaysia Kini. No apology is enough from BN for Tun SA. ZA is just doing PR work for PM. Tun SA is just being humble.

  37. #37 by AirJ on Tuesday, 25 March 2008 - 1:33 pm

    Salam All

    Lady Godiva
    I think it’s quite irresponsible of you to post something of which you are not sure of. If you read carefully, Rustam Sani said “I think financial…” which means he is not too sure. Where are the evidence? If you want to put up an argument, fine – back it with evidence. Otherwise it’s irresponsible posting. You are deluding people just on hearsay…how are you different from BN people?

    Fyi, Sultan Mizan is people’s Sultan in every sense. He attended basic common schools (SM Sultan Sulaiman) in Terengganu and has many rakyat buddies, not friends – buddies. There are many stories that documented he went against his father a few times to be with rakyat. He is very down to earth person and as Terengganuian, I cannot imagine many people would go against him, not even if he is pit against Tuan Guru Hj Hadi, much less Idris Jusoh.

    I am not quite sure what is the reason behind him snubbing Idris Jusoh but I do believe in him and I believe he has rakyat in his interest. If anything, he already showed to people how fickle minded these BN goons are when fighting for positions/titles and the lies they spread of respecting the Sultan so that’s a bonus to BR already. Please be more responsible when commenting on something you are not sure of.

  38. #38 by SteveBenedict on Tuesday, 25 March 2008 - 8:39 pm

    Kemana pergi “Kesetiaan Kepada Raja dan Negara”.

    Ketika DAP Perak mempertikaikan keputusan Sultan Perak untuk melantik Adun PAS untuk menjadi Menteri Besar Perak, tanpa segan dan silu Barisan Nasional (BN) yang ditunjangi oleh UMNO telah menuduh DAP tidak menghormati Sultan Melayu, dan bersikap biadap terhadap sultan. UMNO telah menuntut Penasihat DAP, Datuk Lim Kit Siang untuk memohon ampun dan maaf kepada Pemangku Sultan Perak, dan ianya telah dilakukan oleh Datuk Lim Kit Siang dengan segera tanpa banyak soal. Perkara ini berlaku lagi, tetapi bukanlah berkaitan dengan Parti DAP, tetapi parti Umno Terengganu. 24 Adun parti UMNO akan memulaukan majlis angkat sumpah Menteri Besar Terengganu yang mendapat restu daripada Sultan Terengganu. 24 adun berpihak kepada Perdana Menteri dan Seorang Adun mendapat restu Sultan. Kehendak Sultan tidak diperstujui oleh 24 adun UMNO dan mereka sanggup untuk memulaukan majlis angkat sumpah yang akan dihadiri oleh Sultan Terengganu. Boleh lah kita simpulkan disini, BN boleh menidakkan Sultah tetapi kalau parti pembangkang jangan sesekali kerana ianya menyentuh sensitivity masyarakat melayu, dan itu mesti dihormati. Bagaimana sekarang siapa yang lebih berkuasa untuk melantik Menteri Besar, Sultan atau Perdana Menteri. Dapatlah dilihat disini tidak ada yang “Mantap” dalam Barisan Nasional, intergritinya tidak ada, sehingga tahap untuk tindakan disiplin parti akan dikenakan kepada Adun Kijal, Datuk Ahmad Said, sekiranya menerima perlantikan daripada Sultan Terengganu. Sekiranya keadaan ini terus berlaku, dimana tidak ada persefahaman diantara pihak kerajaan dengan pihak Istana, ini akan menimbulkan satu situasi yang tidak seimbang dengan perlembagaan Malaysia. Perlembagaan Malaysia, “Kesetian Kepada Raja dan Negara”, mana perginya Kesetian Kepada Raja dikalangan pemimpin kerajaan sekarang. Sultan mempunyai hak untuk melantik Menteri Besar sesuai dengan perlembagaan negeri yang sedia ada, Sultan hanya menjalankan tugasnya sebagai Sultan yang mungkin telah melihat, menimbang dan telah mengkaji kelemahan calon Menteri Besar yang dipilih oleh Perdana Menteri. Pemimpin Kerajaan (UMNO) pandai cakap saja, tetapi tak serupa bikin….

  39. #39 by kritikus on Tuesday, 25 March 2008 - 9:20 pm

    This is truly divine intervention and Allah has executed his powers on all those arrogant, corrupt, inhuman, greedy, over ambitious UMNO fellas. This is what you call POLITICAL SODOMY of the own kind. They still do not seem to realise and accept and repent for all their wrongdoings, sins, arrogant attitudes and accept the fact that the ALL-KNOWING AND ALL-SEEING ALLAH is behind their downfall. Are they looking for another giant earthquake with 10.0 on the richter scale within UMNO.????????????

    UMNO fellas it is not too late to repent and mend your ways and accept whatever you have at the moment and continue your Management and Administration solely for the welfare of the rakyat and dont go around chasing witches and shadows and barking at the moon. GET DOWN TO SERIOUS WORK.

    PM stop listening to all the JUDAS AND BRUTUS who are only waiting for your downfall and BEWARE of the guy on your left and right. BE LIKE TDM put the young upstarts in their shoes and dont let them overrule you. IN POLITICS YOU CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT EVEN TRUST YOUR FATHER LET ALONE YOUR SIBLINGS AND SO-CALLED CLOSE FRIENDS. (just remove the “R” and they become FIENDS)

    Pak Lah I sincerely symphatise with you and pity you and I know what is going on in your mind and PREDICAMENTS AND DILEMA you are facing. WAKE UP, WAKE UP, WAKE UP, otherwise this will be the beginning of your END.

    concerned rakyat

  40. #40 by Guane on Wednesday, 26 March 2008 - 12:08 am

    Have u all seen the latest news? Those UMNO supporters were shown on TV putting a Banner that insulted the Agong which read “Kami Nok Idris, Natang” which literally translated means “We want Idris, animal”. In Trengganu linggo, NATANG = BINATANG. This is treason of the highest level. If them govt can punish that student who created the Negarakuku song & even send in the police to shoot & arrest at crowds who burnt the Malaysian flag in KT last yr, thn why the police didnt even bother to stop these people? These people shld be caught for treason & send to jail. Even more dangerous than the HINDRAF 5. If this was to happen in Thailand, the person who insults the king who’ve been jailed…….what ha the PM to say now?

    U can go see it at this site:
    http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/4951/84/

  41. #41 by cinta_adil on Wednesday, 26 March 2008 - 12:31 am

    Kepada controlnation1,

    Hati-hati dengan pendapat tidak kukuh anda tentang sifat Perlembagaan Malaysia. Ianya boleh menimbulkan rasa tidak puas hati di kalangan rakyat.

    1) ‘Kesetiaan kepada Raja dan Negara’. Rukunegara dengan penggunaan perkataan ‘Raja’ bukan ‘Sultan’, tidak relevan? Fahami dan olah maksud di sebalik penggunaan ‘Raja’ dahulu sebelum membuat kesimpulan naif. Jika di Perak digelar Sultan, dan di Perlis pula digelar Raja. Adakah berbezanya? Adakah membawa maksud yang lari dari sifat asalnya?

    2) Menyamakan sistem Beraja di Malaysia sebagai Monarki feudal yang mendikriminasi. Ini sekali lagi membawa pemikiran yang dangkal. Sejak bila Sultan/Raja di Malaysia hanya membuat keputusan sendiri? Baginda dikelilingi oleh Majlis atau Council yang mengawal keputusan bersama. Mereka termasuklah semua pakar-pakar dalam pelbagai bidang seperti undang-undang dan sebagainya. Jika berlaku kepincangan dan terpaksa di bawa ke mahkamah atas keputusan Baginda itu, Baginda sendiri perlu mengeluarkan bukti-bukti dan asas-asas kukuh sesuatu perkara yang berbangkit. Bukannya ikut kehendak hati semata-mata! Ini bukan sistem zaman feudal!

    3) Rukunegara ditulis oleh UMNO? Perlembagaan ditulis oleh Penjajah? Tak perlulah saya nak terangkan sekali lagi pemikiran yang dangkal ini. Maafkan saya, tapi pemikiran seperti ini sekali lagi boleh mencetuskan rasa tidak puas hati dan tersinggung semua pihak. Ini yang akan mencetuskan ketegangan. Kita nak hidup harmoni. Pikir-pikirkan.

    Yang penting, kalau kita semua nak keluarkan pendapat tentang sesuatu isu, fahami dan dalami isu tersebut, bukan di atas permukaan sahaja.

    Kita bukan dalam fasa krisis perlembagaan, tapi krisis politik. Krisis politik diselesaikan secara politik. Dan letakkan perlembagaan sebagai payung di atas untuk menyelesaikannya. Dan fahami paras mana politik berada dan paras mana perlembagaan perlu berada. Barulah semuanya berjalan lancar.

    Dan ingatlah, tiada satu negara pun di dunia ini punya demokrasi MUTLAK. Semuanya kene mengikut perlembagaan masing-masing. Yang menjadi asas pembentukan sesebuah negara.

  42. #42 by LadyGodiva on Wednesday, 26 March 2008 - 6:06 am

    “I think it’s quite irresponsible of you to post something of which you are not sure of. If you read carefully, Rustam Sani said “I think financial…” which means he is not too sure. Where are the evidence? ” AirJ

    That’s journalism. You report what was said. Readers are intelligent and mature and they know what to believe or not believe. They are free to make up their minds – and, of course, they can do without your condescending attitude.

    Rustam Sani said he thought there were financial interests involved. What’s so irresponsible of the journalist in reporting it?? You are free to read and form your own opinion. If the Sultan thinks that is slander, he should consult the state legal advisor as to what to do. You cannot shut Rustam Sani up because he is merely stating his beliefs when interviewed – right or wrong. And that is not slander or defammation!

    You barking up the wrong tree here! Don’t you think you should ask the maker of the statement that, and not the person who reported it or wrote about it. I’m not even the source.

    “Irresponsible posting”?? I suppose to you a journalist writing only what you like to read is “responsible” writing or posting. Have you not heard of “fair and balance” reporting? Why do you think some newspapers have a wider readership than others?

    “Please be more responsible when commenting on something you are not sure of.” Have you not heard of the freedom of speech?

  43. #43 by kcb on Wednesday, 26 March 2008 - 8:15 am

    suarakami, I think you should quote the source of the two articles you have posted.

  44. #44 by controlnation1 on Wednesday, 26 March 2008 - 11:25 am

    “”Jika di Perak digelar Sultan, dan di Perlis pula digelar Raja. Adakah berbezanya? Adakah membawa maksud yang lari dari sifat asalnya?”"

    That wasnt an important point at all.Its just my own way of expressing the dichotomy of our system.Why state Raja when most are called Sultan?Why when Islam came the raja change their tittle to Sultan?make no difference isnt it?Anyway it isnt an important point at all.

    “”2) Menyamakan sistem Beraja di Malaysia sebagai Monarki feudal yang mendikriminasi. Ini sekali lagi membawa pemikiran yang dangkal.”"

    A system in which only certain people with certain race and religion could hold certain position isnt a discrimination??Owww…

    “”Jika berlaku kepincangan dan terpaksa di bawa ke mahkamah atas keputusan Baginda itu, Baginda sendiri perlu mengeluarkan bukti-bukti dan asas-asas kukuh sesuatu perkara yang berbangkit. Bukannya ikut kehendak hati semata-mata! Ini bukan sistem zaman feudal! “”

    That is unlikely to occured.Wheres the justice in the monarchy system?They are not even elected.In fact isnt status gain by blood instead of action kinda lame?What great things the Sultan ever did?Is the Sultan a genius that all of his decision are followed blindly?Did they hold an awesome lot of degree?

    Eventhough most of us here dont like that Idris fella he is still involved in a day by day work,but the sultan?Did he ever experience management?
    Is the Sultan that holy that we couldnt disagree with him?What if the same thing occured to the opposition?

    About the constitution written by foreigners and Rukun negara by UMNO.Isnt that correct?Its a fact, even if its hard to swallow.

  45. #45 by AirJ on Wednesday, 26 March 2008 - 12:13 pm

    Lady Godiva
    I never faulted Rustam Sani, I faulted you! I pointed to what he said and what you have concluded. You said “It is all about money! It is not about the rakyat! Don’t be fooled.” based on Rustam Sani allegation that money is the driving force behind Tuanku Mizan’s move? RS didn’t even bother to supply any evidence and you can strongly say that his words are true? Are you Terengganuians? Don’t think so. You have just slandered Tuanku Mizan and where is your evidence? You did not even name the Royalties company names, their income, contracts they have won from the Government, nothing. Are you not the same as BN goons in that respect? Do some research, talk to Terengganu folks. Tuanku Mizan is closer to his rakyat than his late father. What does that say about him? Many times he secretly went to many parts in Terengganu without his securities/entourage to see how ordinary folks are coping with life. I am sorry, but I am Terengganuian and I take charge in your irresponsible posting.

    It’s a shame if you think Freedom of Speech means you can say whatever you want and not be accountable for its content. That tells me what kind of person you are really.

  46. #46 by AirJ on Wednesday, 26 March 2008 - 12:35 pm

    Controlnation1

    To answer you, Tuanku Mizan has served the state government dulu and I am quite sure being YDP Agong means he has experience managing at very high sense. Even though Idris dealt with day-to-day issues, I would rate Sultan’s contribution to Terengganu far more valuable than Idris. I am not an expert in constitution, neither I am a historian so I cannot respond to your queries on that but I grew up in Terengganu and I have not heard of any negative stories being told of Tuanku Mizan. He had Tuan Guru Hj Hadi as one of his tutor even when BN was in power (pre-1999, imagine that!) and he accepted Idris as MB in 2004 with no fuss. He has not shown any preference towards any party as far as I can tell. His reason to refuse consent Idris as MB is beyond me but I have faith in him that he did it for Rakyat’s sake. In Islam, no one is above another except his conviction and piety towards Allah so ofcourse Tuanku is not beyond any of us but as far as I can tell, I am more than happy to have him as my Sultan and I will be behind him (as most Terengganuians would be) on this issue. I can see you want to relate this issue with that of other state/other royalties but I think we cannot generalize but rather take/judge case by case basis.

  47. #47 by lakilompat on Wednesday, 26 March 2008 - 12:54 pm

    Do you vote for DUN who are biadap against the Sultan? and doing street protest?

  48. #48 by jpmm on Wednesday, 26 March 2008 - 8:01 pm

    To put it simply, Umno’s case is… the pot calling the kettle black!

    Knock ‘em dead, DAP… show the world what you can do — minus the arrogance and hypocrisy which are so synonymous to UMNO!

  49. #49 by LadyGodiva on Wednesday, 26 March 2008 - 10:18 pm

    “It’s a shame if you think Freedom of Speech means you can say whatever you want and not be accountable for its content. That tells me what kind of person you are really.”

    It is even a greater shame when you see someone who thinks the media should only publish what he thinks is the ‘truth’!

  50. #50 by LadyGodiva on Wednesday, 26 March 2008 - 10:23 pm

    Why am I not surprised to read that you think self-censorship is not one of the ways to deny freedom of expression?

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