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	<title>Comments on: Opposition and Anwar Ibrahim &#8211; Make no mistake on your sincerity and integrity</title>
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		<title>By: barble</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/22/opposition-and-anwar-ibrahim-make-no-mistake-on-your-sincerity-and-integrity/comment-page-3/#comment-112208</link>
		<dc:creator>barble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when PKR and DAP coalition government comes into power, i am hoping the first thing they do is swipe clean of all the useless old cabinet ministers, no family MPs such as brothers or father and son or even mother daughter as MPs in the cabinet. because if this happens then the coalition government are no different than the current one and a lot of self interest will take place once again. PKR and DAP must also in sure that POLITICIANS can never be BUSINESSMEN too. if they are politicians stick to politics and if they are businessmen stick to just doing business, not trying to kill 2 birds with 1 stone! this evidently will decrease and subsequently stop graft in this country. secondly, STOP CRIME!  the increase in crime in this country is alarmingly high and people don&#039;t feel safe to go out even to pump petrol at night alone. the judiciary system in our country must be changed and allow public people to be more involve like doing jury duties, then there would be fairness in sentencing cases. not judges doing whatever the hell they like and picking within themselves to take cases that brings financial benefits from especially politicians. move back OLD generation of POLITICIANS and give the NEW generation the chance to lead this country into a better future!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when PKR and DAP coalition government comes into power, i am hoping the first thing they do is swipe clean of all the useless old cabinet ministers, no family MPs such as brothers or father and son or even mother daughter as MPs in the cabinet. because if this happens then the coalition government are no different than the current one and a lot of self interest will take place once again. PKR and DAP must also in sure that POLITICIANS can never be BUSINESSMEN too. if they are politicians stick to politics and if they are businessmen stick to just doing business, not trying to kill 2 birds with 1 stone! this evidently will decrease and subsequently stop graft in this country. secondly, STOP CRIME!  the increase in crime in this country is alarmingly high and people don&#8217;t feel safe to go out even to pump petrol at night alone. the judiciary system in our country must be changed and allow public people to be more involve like doing jury duties, then there would be fairness in sentencing cases. not judges doing whatever the hell they like and picking within themselves to take cases that brings financial benefits from especially politicians. move back OLD generation of POLITICIANS and give the NEW generation the chance to lead this country into a better future!!!</p>
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		<title>By: chiakehleong</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/22/opposition-and-anwar-ibrahim-make-no-mistake-on-your-sincerity-and-integrity/comment-page-3/#comment-111149</link>
		<dc:creator>chiakehleong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tun M gotta be real regret for not hanging him few years back then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tun M gotta be real regret for not hanging him few years back then.</p>
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		<title>By: citizenwatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>citizenwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anwar and PR are using the strategies of &#039;ambush&#039; and &#039;surprise&#039; to leave BN in &#039;shock and awe&#039;. So folks, don&#039;t be surprised if the cross-overs happen very much earlier than 16 Sept. It may even happen in the upcoming Parliamentary session on 23 June!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anwar and PR are using the strategies of &#8216;ambush&#8217; and &#8216;surprise&#8217; to leave BN in &#8216;shock and awe&#8217;. So folks, don&#8217;t be surprised if the cross-overs happen very much earlier than 16 Sept. It may even happen in the upcoming Parliamentary session on 23 June!</p>
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		<title>By: danialalan</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/22/opposition-and-anwar-ibrahim-make-no-mistake-on-your-sincerity-and-integrity/comment-page-3/#comment-105175</link>
		<dc:creator>danialalan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 11:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever it is,the new PR govt must ensure that no one race in this country is being discriminated against all in the name of &#039;affirmative action&#039; !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever it is,the new PR govt must ensure that no one race in this country is being discriminated against all in the name of &#8216;affirmative action&#8217; !</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/22/opposition-and-anwar-ibrahim-make-no-mistake-on-your-sincerity-and-integrity/comment-page-3/#comment-99348</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PR is a silence dragon bidding its time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PR is a silence dragon bidding its time.</p>
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		<title>By: boobear</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/22/opposition-and-anwar-ibrahim-make-no-mistake-on-your-sincerity-and-integrity/comment-page-3/#comment-99059</link>
		<dc:creator>boobear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes we are influenced by what we read... and that was precisely what the MSP (Main stream press) were portraying, post Mar 8, 2008.

But since then, with the &quot;sms-induced&quot; rallies, &quot;big&quot; talks, challenges and counter-challenges, the MSP have wised up and taken the stance on NOT FLAMING the EMBERS of DISCONTENT especially of racial in nature.

Then there&#039;s the matter of BN-controlled Federal Ministers that adopt a &quot;hero&quot;/&quot;heroine&quot; attitude to champion their cause to their political masters and &quot;kuncu-kuncu&quot; by ACTING TOUGH with the PR-controlled states.

ALL THIS EMPHASIZES THE NEED&gt;&gt;&gt; ULTIMATELY OF A TOTAL PRakyat controlled Govt, from Federal to States to really offer a SINCERE effort that is WORKABLE...

Otherwise the &quot;new&quot; opposition will twist and turn what PRakyat comes up with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes we are influenced by what we read&#8230; and that was precisely what the MSP (Main stream press) were portraying, post Mar 8, 2008.</p>
<p>But since then, with the &#8220;sms-induced&#8221; rallies, &#8220;big&#8221; talks, challenges and counter-challenges, the MSP have wised up and taken the stance on NOT FLAMING the EMBERS of DISCONTENT especially of racial in nature.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the matter of BN-controlled Federal Ministers that adopt a &#8220;hero&#8221;/&#8221;heroine&#8221; attitude to champion their cause to their political masters and &#8220;kuncu-kuncu&#8221; by ACTING TOUGH with the PR-controlled states.</p>
<p>ALL THIS EMPHASIZES THE NEED&gt;&gt;&gt; ULTIMATELY OF A TOTAL PRakyat controlled Govt, from Federal to States to really offer a SINCERE effort that is WORKABLE&#8230;</p>
<p>Otherwise the &#8220;new&#8221; opposition will twist and turn what PRakyat comes up with.</p>
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		<title>By: citizen86</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/22/opposition-and-anwar-ibrahim-make-no-mistake-on-your-sincerity-and-integrity/comment-page-3/#comment-94237</link>
		<dc:creator>citizen86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all should unite and first bring about change to the country lets all put aside our differences and make a change , we have a louder voice in parliament now lets work together and develop this country and bring about solutions to the problems faced by ppl then by the 13th general election i hope barisan rakyat overthrow not bn but umno because ultimately umno is in power mca mic ppp n all the other parties are just slaves who are told what and what not to do by the mighty umno gang</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all should unite and first bring about change to the country lets all put aside our differences and make a change , we have a louder voice in parliament now lets work together and develop this country and bring about solutions to the problems faced by ppl then by the 13th general election i hope barisan rakyat overthrow not bn but umno because ultimately umno is in power mca mic ppp n all the other parties are just slaves who are told what and what not to do by the mighty umno gang</p>
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		<title>By: Toyol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toyol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 06:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets face it. BN will never change. The opposition ruled states will over the course of the next years find a bottomless pit of wrong doings and scandals which will make the Harry Potter series look like a Enid Blyton story!!!

lets work together again and the next elections BN will be irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets face it. BN will never change. The opposition ruled states will over the course of the next years find a bottomless pit of wrong doings and scandals which will make the Harry Potter series look like a Enid Blyton story!!!</p>
<p>lets work together again and the next elections BN will be irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/22/opposition-and-anwar-ibrahim-make-no-mistake-on-your-sincerity-and-integrity/comment-page-3/#comment-92538</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffrey says:  The way to stop crossover is collect in advance the undated letter of resignation of the candidate to resign as Member of Parliament, so that the moment he crosses, he is treated as having resigned with his resignation leter dated and given effect thereby forcing a by-election. 


If I am not mistaken, I thought this too has been rendered invalid before. But I am not sure. May be you should let your wannabe researcher to check it out.  After, he can’t think very much, so cut and paste shouldn’t be too taxing for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey says:  The way to stop crossover is collect in advance the undated letter of resignation of the candidate to resign as Member of Parliament, so that the moment he crosses, he is treated as having resigned with his resignation leter dated and given effect thereby forcing a by-election. </p>
<p>If I am not mistaken, I thought this too has been rendered invalid before. But I am not sure. May be you should let your wannabe researcher to check it out.  After, he can’t think very much, so cut and paste shouldn’t be too taxing for him.</p>
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		<title>By: pohwatchdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>pohwatchdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crossover shouldn&#039;t be accepted coz unprinciple, lying and might stab at you anytime. That is unhealthy politic and not to be encouraged. Well... we are watching DAP-PKR-PAS as government in state level and not good at issue statement.  DAP-PKR-PAS is equal to BARISAN NASIONAL.  Work to make Malaysia a better place for us. Not enrich themselves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crossover shouldn&#8217;t be accepted coz unprinciple, lying and might stab at you anytime. That is unhealthy politic and not to be encouraged. Well&#8230; we are watching DAP-PKR-PAS as government in state level and not good at issue statement.  DAP-PKR-PAS is equal to BARISAN NASIONAL.  Work to make Malaysia a better place for us. Not enrich themselves</p>
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		<title>By: LadyGodiva</title>
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		<dc:creator>LadyGodiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/rp/2002-03/03RP04.pdf


JUMPING SHIP


This article  is meant for intelligent readers like yourself who reads and thinks for himself. Of course, I strongly advise limkamput not to exert himself mentally. He might feel compelled to look for a sampan, row it to the open sea and then jump!</description>
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<p>JUMPING SHIP</p>
<p>This article  is meant for intelligent readers like yourself who reads and thinks for himself. Of course, I strongly advise limkamput not to exert himself mentally. He might feel compelled to look for a sampan, row it to the open sea and then jump!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/22/opposition-and-anwar-ibrahim-make-no-mistake-on-your-sincerity-and-integrity/comment-page-3/#comment-92402</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 07:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way to stop crossover is collect in advance the undated letter of resignation of the candidate to resign as Member of Parliament, so that the moment he crosses, he is treated as having resigned with his resignation leter dated and given effect thereby forcing a by-election. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way to stop crossover is collect in advance the undated letter of resignation of the candidate to resign as Member of Parliament, so that the moment he crosses, he is treated as having resigned with his resignation leter dated and given effect thereby forcing a by-election. :)</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/22/opposition-and-anwar-ibrahim-make-no-mistake-on-your-sincerity-and-integrity/comment-page-3/#comment-92373</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To limkamput, change is not easy, the opposition just come into power, the municipal still have alot of bad eggs, lazy eggs, rotten eggs, and hard to find those good eggs that are educated and can fully undestand the benefit of change.

All the Penangites has witnessed the Komtar rally by some foolish wild monkeys of UMNO members. These group of mamak or UMNO members are still reluctant to change as they don&#039;t feel comfortable at all. Therefore, the new opposition government need to work hard to promote those who want change within the municipal, and government servants and try to sack those who fail to understand the benefit of change. Well, Opposition need more soldiers to implement such change, i believe within a year or two nothing much can be implemented. New blood need to be rejuvenated into the already tiring and bad one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To limkamput, change is not easy, the opposition just come into power, the municipal still have alot of bad eggs, lazy eggs, rotten eggs, and hard to find those good eggs that are educated and can fully undestand the benefit of change.</p>
<p>All the Penangites has witnessed the Komtar rally by some foolish wild monkeys of UMNO members. These group of mamak or UMNO members are still reluctant to change as they don&#8217;t feel comfortable at all. Therefore, the new opposition government need to work hard to promote those who want change within the municipal, and government servants and try to sack those who fail to understand the benefit of change. Well, Opposition need more soldiers to implement such change, i believe within a year or two nothing much can be implemented. New blood need to be rejuvenated into the already tiring and bad one.</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/22/opposition-and-anwar-ibrahim-make-no-mistake-on-your-sincerity-and-integrity/comment-page-3/#comment-92347</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 05:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffrey, before election, i was opposition supporter. After election, i support whoever make more sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey, before election, i was opposition supporter. After election, i support whoever make more sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/22/opposition-and-anwar-ibrahim-make-no-mistake-on-your-sincerity-and-integrity/comment-page-3/#comment-92327</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 04:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ladygorilla @ pervert,
Who care about principles - people talk about it only. Just like all the political parties now talking about being non-racial.  But who is not racists. Undergrad2 just taught me a good lesson about racism a couple of nights earlier.  Real politics ok, real politics.  But of course I don’t expect a pua tang sai educated person like you to understand and to reconcile what is at sake.  Sometimes we have to be evil to be good.  This is real.  As I said earlier, undergrad2 is good to a judge (certainly not a politician), and for you ladygorilla, you should be cleaning all the clogged drains in Penang. Have you seem any change yet in Penang?  Or are they still talking about what they want to do?  You please make sure they stop talking and start doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ladygorilla @ pervert,<br />
Who care about principles &#8211; people talk about it only. Just like all the political parties now talking about being non-racial.  But who is not racists. Undergrad2 just taught me a good lesson about racism a couple of nights earlier.  Real politics ok, real politics.  But of course I don’t expect a pua tang sai educated person like you to understand and to reconcile what is at sake.  Sometimes we have to be evil to be good.  This is real.  As I said earlier, undergrad2 is good to a judge (certainly not a politician), and for you ladygorilla, you should be cleaning all the clogged drains in Penang. Have you seem any change yet in Penang?  Or are they still talking about what they want to do?  You please make sure they stop talking and start doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/22/opposition-and-anwar-ibrahim-make-no-mistake-on-your-sincerity-and-integrity/comment-page-3/#comment-92309</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 03:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks LadyGodiva for the link. Wow it is a thesis, indeed the question is complex. As always it is what considerations weigh more when one juggles between (a) one&#039;s own own self interest,(b) the party&#039;s or coalition&#039;s interest (these may be separate) and (c) consciences and principles in balance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks LadyGodiva for the link. Wow it is a thesis, indeed the question is complex. As always it is what considerations weigh more when one juggles between (a) one&#8217;s own own self interest,(b) the party&#8217;s or coalition&#8217;s interest (these may be separate) and (c) consciences and principles in balance.</p>
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		<title>By: LadyGodiva</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/22/opposition-and-anwar-ibrahim-make-no-mistake-on-your-sincerity-and-integrity/comment-page-3/#comment-92279</link>
		<dc:creator>LadyGodiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“As can be seen from these arguments, a key question is whether parties or individuals considered to be the central elements of the political system. 

Once again, the answer to this question is complex.”




http://mad-science-party.conferencecallarticles.com/politician-overboard-jumping-the-party-ship-134801</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“As can be seen from these arguments, a key question is whether parties or individuals considered to be the central elements of the political system. </p>
<p>Once again, the answer to this question is complex.”</p>
<p><a href="http://mad-science-party.conferencecallarticles.com/politician-overboard-jumping-the-party-ship-134801" rel="nofollow">http://mad-science-party.conferencecallarticles.com/politician-overboard-jumping-the-party-ship-134801</a></p>
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		<title>By: LadyGodiva</title>
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		<dc:creator>LadyGodiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...Lim Kam Put for example just won’t buy such argument.&quot;

Don&#039;t mind limkamput. What do you expect from somebody whose highest level of education is the Kg. Attap type!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Lim Kam Put for example just won’t buy such argument.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t mind limkamput. What do you expect from somebody whose highest level of education is the Kg. Attap type!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 23:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for typo ommision in 2nd para from bottom : it should be &quot;...do they still endorse that power of sharing WHEN NONE of THEIR representives was appointed to federal cabinet position, as appears to be the main grouse at this moment?...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for typo ommision in 2nd para from bottom : it should be &#8220;&#8230;do they still endorse that power of sharing WHEN NONE of THEIR representives was appointed to federal cabinet position, as appears to be the main grouse at this moment?&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 23:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gentlemen,

At level of principles, I guess it will be hard to defend party hopping and cross overs. Undergrad’s hypothetical poser of which is more important – constituents’ rights to freedom of speech or the candidate’s right to freedom of association  - is a difficult question for which I do  not know any local court has been asked to balance and adjudicate upon. Even PAS’s. Kelantan MB Datuk Nik Aziz Nik Mat supported Zaid’s move, if you believe MSM (NST)’s report  - &quot;I agree,&quot; said Nik Aziz, “elected representatives should not disappoint the people who had voted for them. Party-hopping is not the work of politicians but those who makan upah (accept money).&quot; Interestingly PAS’s spiritual advisor’s opinion not exactly shared by its president Hadi Awang. From principles perspective, it is right to say people intending to cross should quit the BN as well as the seat and participate in a by-election.

It is however another argument if you proceed on realpolitik principles (political expedience as HB Lim terms it) that our Anwar may be taking. 

Take for example what Gerakan vice-president Datuk Dr S. Vijayaratnam said, &quot;Switching camps amounts to a betrayal of the people&#039;s confidence. If they do so, a by-election must be held.&quot;

A lot of Opposition supporters (Lim Kam Put for example) just won’t buy such argument.  The Gerakan did not talk on these lines before when BN induced cross overs in the past from the Opposition’s side and hence has now forfeited its claim to high principles of democratic fair play at this juncture when it is vulnerable. What is sauce for goose is sauce for gander, Opposition sympathizers would say.

HB Lim’s point – that just because BN stooped to doing it in the past is no justification for BR holding higher claims to democratic best practices to emulate quid pro quo – will be balanced against what is really on the ground. By that I mean is there really betrayal of constituents in East Malaysia context in real practical terms?
HB Lim said, “we are assuming that the SUPP supporters vote for expediency or development support and not on high principles…. For all we know, they may be endorsing the BN’s form or model of power sharing and that is voting based on principles and not on some narrow expediency”. 
But is the assumption wide off the mark looking at real situation on the ground??? Do you really believe that looking at their record of crossovers in past??? Well that’s the candidates but talking of constituents, and their rights to freedom of speech, I have been told the BN in past could (esp in less developed parts of Sarawak accessible by river), afford giving them boats or engines, televisions and other material benefits etc to secure votes. I stand corrected if this is wrong. 

And even if as HB Lim said, “for all we know, they may be endorsing the BN’s form or model of power sharing” (at the time of polls), do they still endorse that power of sharing representatives elected was appointed to federal cabinet position, as appears to be the main grouse at this moment? As I said, the “kataks’ who may be citing scripture for their own cause, now argue that it is the BN that has post election reneged, betrayed their constituents’ legitimate expectations, and to stay on represents greater betrayal.

What is the DAP&#039;s position on Zaid&#039;s proposed anti party hopping bill? We have yet to hear it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gentlemen,</p>
<p>At level of principles, I guess it will be hard to defend party hopping and cross overs. Undergrad’s hypothetical poser of which is more important – constituents’ rights to freedom of speech or the candidate’s right to freedom of association  &#8211; is a difficult question for which I do  not know any local court has been asked to balance and adjudicate upon. Even PAS’s. Kelantan MB Datuk Nik Aziz Nik Mat supported Zaid’s move, if you believe MSM (NST)’s report  &#8211; &#8220;I agree,&#8221; said Nik Aziz, “elected representatives should not disappoint the people who had voted for them. Party-hopping is not the work of politicians but those who makan upah (accept money).&#8221; Interestingly PAS’s spiritual advisor’s opinion not exactly shared by its president Hadi Awang. From principles perspective, it is right to say people intending to cross should quit the BN as well as the seat and participate in a by-election.</p>
<p>It is however another argument if you proceed on realpolitik principles (political expedience as HB Lim terms it) that our Anwar may be taking. </p>
<p>Take for example what Gerakan vice-president Datuk Dr S. Vijayaratnam said, &#8220;Switching camps amounts to a betrayal of the people&#8217;s confidence. If they do so, a by-election must be held.&#8221;</p>
<p>A lot of Opposition supporters (Lim Kam Put for example) just won’t buy such argument.  The Gerakan did not talk on these lines before when BN induced cross overs in the past from the Opposition’s side and hence has now forfeited its claim to high principles of democratic fair play at this juncture when it is vulnerable. What is sauce for goose is sauce for gander, Opposition sympathizers would say.</p>
<p>HB Lim’s point – that just because BN stooped to doing it in the past is no justification for BR holding higher claims to democratic best practices to emulate quid pro quo – will be balanced against what is really on the ground. By that I mean is there really betrayal of constituents in East Malaysia context in real practical terms?<br />
HB Lim said, “we are assuming that the SUPP supporters vote for expediency or development support and not on high principles…. For all we know, they may be endorsing the BN’s form or model of power sharing and that is voting based on principles and not on some narrow expediency”.<br />
But is the assumption wide off the mark looking at real situation on the ground??? Do you really believe that looking at their record of crossovers in past??? Well that’s the candidates but talking of constituents, and their rights to freedom of speech, I have been told the BN in past could (esp in less developed parts of Sarawak accessible by river), afford giving them boats or engines, televisions and other material benefits etc to secure votes. I stand corrected if this is wrong. </p>
<p>And even if as HB Lim said, “for all we know, they may be endorsing the BN’s form or model of power sharing” (at the time of polls), do they still endorse that power of sharing representatives elected was appointed to federal cabinet position, as appears to be the main grouse at this moment? As I said, the “kataks’ who may be citing scripture for their own cause, now argue that it is the BN that has post election reneged, betrayed their constituents’ legitimate expectations, and to stay on represents greater betrayal.</p>
<p>What is the DAP&#8217;s position on Zaid&#8217;s proposed anti party hopping bill? We have yet to hear it.</p>
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