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	<title>Comments on: Abdullah’s Bible</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/20/abdullah%e2%80%99s-bible/#comment-99349</link>
		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al Quran has been manipulates since our ancestor times. Some manipulation has become absurd leaving bloodshed, and some still waiting evolution &#38; translation like the "Islam Hadhari" manipulated  introduced by Pak Lah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Quran has been manipulates since our ancestor times. Some manipulation has become absurd leaving bloodshed, and some still waiting evolution &amp; translation like the &#8220;Islam Hadhari&#8221; manipulated  introduced by Pak Lah.</p>
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		<title>By: ChinNA</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/20/abdullah%e2%80%99s-bible/#comment-91682</link>
		<dc:creator>ChinNA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A question to help me understand:

It is commented that Malays don't quite understand Arabic, thus are not well-versed in the Quran. Question: Is there a Malay translation of the Quran to help Malays understand?

If these is one, would Malays use it? I once heard that only the Arabic Quran matters. All other translation does not matter much. Is that true?

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question to help me understand:</p>
<p>It is commented that Malays don&#8217;t quite understand Arabic, thus are not well-versed in the Quran. Question: Is there a Malay translation of the Quran to help Malays understand?</p>
<p>If these is one, would Malays use it? I once heard that only the Arabic Quran matters. All other translation does not matter much. Is that true?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Noor Aza Othman</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/20/abdullah%e2%80%99s-bible/#comment-91651</link>
		<dc:creator>Noor Aza Othman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Undergrad; you really pissed me off with your narrow-mindedness everytime you open your mouth! Think before you speak; by the way learning is a whole lifetime process and thus, you should be humble to educate yourself further! And open your mind to learn something valuable from such a rare real Malay intellectual nowadays like Dr. Farish Noor here. Anyway; how would Muslims feel if their Qurans were confiscated so unjustly in the west? Look at the Muslims; being able to protest freely in the west about the Danish cartoon and on the Iraq War; whereas the Hindraf leaders are being imprisoned so barbarically by the Islamic Umno leaders, without trial for defending Hindu temples and Hindu/Indian rights!  Muslims must learn to open their minds and hearts to the 21st. modern century; and maybe then they'll be respected and not ridiculed with so much contempt! Get your Islamic house in order first; because that's why Bush-Blair regimes are able to manipulate the western world to hate Islam and its followers. And the unjust confiscation incident of the Bibles show how primitive still the Islamic civilisation on the whole! The so-called Islam Hadhari/Civilisational Islam is a farce indeed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Undergrad; you really pissed me off with your narrow-mindedness everytime you open your mouth! Think before you speak; by the way learning is a whole lifetime process and thus, you should be humble to educate yourself further! And open your mind to learn something valuable from such a rare real Malay intellectual nowadays like Dr. Farish Noor here. Anyway; how would Muslims feel if their Qurans were confiscated so unjustly in the west? Look at the Muslims; being able to protest freely in the west about the Danish cartoon and on the Iraq War; whereas the Hindraf leaders are being imprisoned so barbarically by the Islamic Umno leaders, without trial for defending Hindu temples and Hindu/Indian rights!  Muslims must learn to open their minds and hearts to the 21st. modern century; and maybe then they&#8217;ll be respected and not ridiculed with so much contempt! Get your Islamic house in order first; because that&#8217;s why Bush-Blair regimes are able to manipulate the western world to hate Islam and its followers. And the unjust confiscation incident of the Bibles show how primitive still the Islamic civilisation on the whole! The so-called Islam Hadhari/Civilisational Islam is a farce indeed!</p>
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		<title>By: AhPek</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/20/abdullah%e2%80%99s-bible/#comment-91637</link>
		<dc:creator>AhPek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'If we are going to respect the people's wish for change,we have to have some kind of cooperation.' Lim Kit Siang.

Seems reasonable enough provided you keep to within 'some kind of cooperation'.However if you should in future proceed to full cooperation, then Jeffrey's attempt to persuade you to stipulate a condition precedent to working with PAS in a full formal coalition that it drops its demand for the establishment of an Islamic state is wise and in fact in order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;If we are going to respect the people&#8217;s wish for change,we have to have some kind of cooperation.&#8217; Lim Kit Siang.</p>
<p>Seems reasonable enough provided you keep to within &#8217;some kind of cooperation&#8217;.However if you should in future proceed to full cooperation, then Jeffrey&#8217;s attempt to persuade you to stipulate a condition precedent to working with PAS in a full formal coalition that it drops its demand for the establishment of an Islamic state is wise and in fact in order.</p>
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		<title>By: KL Dude</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/20/abdullah%e2%80%99s-bible/#comment-91633</link>
		<dc:creator>KL Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bilgates,

Bibles in BM are needed today in Malaysia for the BM speaking Christians especially in East Malaysia and the local Orang Asli christian communities, not for any other reason to threat or translated for fun. 

But UMNO scumbags see it as a threat perhaps to their brand of Islam and they later create a mockery out of Islam in the eyes of the world when they came up with the ban on the word 'Allah' with an excuse that Muslims can get confuse it seems but which Muslims, UMNO Muslims or the Muslims globally ? 

Think also why the IC of many Christians are not stated with their correct religion when they checked ? And when a complain is made with the IRD, the excuse given was typo error.... my foot.

So who is at threat now actually fearing the Christians... the devil or UMNO ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bilgates,</p>
<p>Bibles in BM are needed today in Malaysia for the BM speaking Christians especially in East Malaysia and the local Orang Asli christian communities, not for any other reason to threat or translated for fun. </p>
<p>But UMNO scumbags see it as a threat perhaps to their brand of Islam and they later create a mockery out of Islam in the eyes of the world when they came up with the ban on the word &#8216;Allah&#8217; with an excuse that Muslims can get confuse it seems but which Muslims, UMNO Muslims or the Muslims globally ? </p>
<p>Think also why the IC of many Christians are not stated with their correct religion when they checked ? And when a complain is made with the IRD, the excuse given was typo error&#8230;. my foot.</p>
<p>So who is at threat now actually fearing the Christians&#8230; the devil or UMNO ??</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/20/abdullah%e2%80%99s-bible/#comment-91532</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>///Malaysia’s opposition parties mull forming formal coalition - AP 2 hours ago///.

"If we are going to respect the people's wish for change, we have to have some kind of cooperation," opposition leader Lim Kit Siang of the Democratic Action Party told The Associated Press. "We have to try to make it work. If there is a failure, all will suffer from it", The Associated Press reported. It was further reported "but PAS has toned down its religious rhetoric in recent months, and even dropped from its election manifesto its demand for an Islamic state".


Toning down its religious rhetoric in recent months on establishing an islamic state does not mean abandoning it when it helps form the government.

The question is, YB, would the DAP stipulate a condition precedent to working with PAS in a formal coalitiuon that it drops its demand for the establishment of the Islamic state?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>///Malaysia’s opposition parties mull forming formal coalition - AP 2 hours ago///.</p>
<p>&#8220;If we are going to respect the people&#8217;s wish for change, we have to have some kind of cooperation,&#8221; opposition leader Lim Kit Siang of the Democratic Action Party told The Associated Press. &#8220;We have to try to make it work. If there is a failure, all will suffer from it&#8221;, The Associated Press reported. It was further reported &#8220;but PAS has toned down its religious rhetoric in recent months, and even dropped from its election manifesto its demand for an Islamic state&#8221;.</p>
<p>Toning down its religious rhetoric in recent months on establishing an islamic state does not mean abandoning it when it helps form the government.</p>
<p>The question is, YB, would the DAP stipulate a condition precedent to working with PAS in a formal coalitiuon that it drops its demand for the establishment of the Islamic state?</p>
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		<title>By: jetaime.f</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/20/abdullah%e2%80%99s-bible/#comment-91519</link>
		<dc:creator>jetaime.f</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurrah...... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurrah&#8230;&#8230; <img src='http://blog.limkitsiang.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: wag-the-dog</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/20/abdullah%e2%80%99s-bible/#comment-91518</link>
		<dc:creator>wag-the-dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Malaysia's opposition parties mull forming formal coalition - AP 2 hours ago.

Check www.wagthedog-malaysia.blogspot.com for details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malaysia&#8217;s opposition parties mull forming formal coalition - AP 2 hours ago.</p>
<p>Check <a href="http://www.wagthedog-malaysia.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wagthedog-malaysia.blogspot.com</a> for details.</p>
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		<title>By: Toyol</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/20/abdullah%e2%80%99s-bible/#comment-91516</link>
		<dc:creator>Toyol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 06:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its amazing how UMNO uses religion to terrorise its members and put them in chains. If the Malays do not open their minds and accept the globally changing world as it is, they will be left behind not just in economics but become social outcasts as well. This is what I have been telling my Malay friends and some who are more open have begun to change. I fell sorry for those who have not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its amazing how UMNO uses religion to terrorise its members and put them in chains. If the Malays do not open their minds and accept the globally changing world as it is, they will be left behind not just in economics but become social outcasts as well. This is what I have been telling my Malay friends and some who are more open have begun to change. I fell sorry for those who have not.</p>
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