CMs, DPMs and PMs: Time to go beyond the old taboos


By Farish A. Noor

WHEN the opportunity presented itself for Malaysia to choose a Malaysian woman of South Asian origin to be made the country’s first astronaut, those responsible for the final decision stepped back before the seemingly-insurmountable wall of taboos and inherited petty wisdom. No, they opined, we should choose a Malaysian Male Muslim Malay instead, as this would reflect the demographic realities of the country. But by doing so, they not only reflected the demographic realities of the day, but also confirmed the hegemony of that reality and thus rendered it absolute and unquestionable.

Now think of the possible alternatives had the Malaysian-Indian woman be chosen instead: For a start it would point to the demographic realities many of us would have wanted to see; and it would have been such a powerful symbolic message sent to Malaysia and the world. Had the other candidate been chosen, we could have proudly proclaimed that this was a country where racial and ethnic divisions had been transcended, and where gender equality was within reach. It would also have been such an enormous boost to the pride and sense of self-worth of so many other marginalised minority groupings in the country, to see themselves mirrored in the national narrative and to be made to feel that they truly belonged to a Malaysia that was indeed a country for all races. But no: Sadly, once again, the powers that be did the familiar cop-out and conceded to their own misguided belief in the old taboos.

The debate over who should be made chief minister of Perak, which has been going on for a week now, points to the same sort of intellectual and psycho-social impasse that has kept Malaysia paralysed for so long. Despite winning the biggest number of state assembly seats in the state, the DAP was not allowed to nominate one of its own to the post. The grounds for this realpolitik consideration happens to be a legal provision in the Perak constitution that apparently precludes the possibility of a non-Malay and non-Muslim from assuming the post of chief minister, even if her/his party won all the seats in the state assembly.

That such a provision emerged in a specific historical context that was determined even before the struggle for independence got off the ground is known to historians and laymen alike. But the question is this: Are we forever to remain beholden to history and trapped by the circumstances of the past? Or are we finally going to admit to ourselves that this nation-state of ours – Malaysia – is an invented construct and as such is also open to deconstruction, revision, adaptation and subsequently evolution? Are we now ready to evolve a new Malaysian politics that will finally reflect the plural and multicultural reality of Malaysian society today?

The debate over who should be the Perak chief minister appeared archaic and totally out of touch with the realities of our time. Coming immediately after an election that demonstrated the possible emergence of a pan-Malaysian cross-racial electorate, the fact that the post of chief minister for Perak was determined not by merit, experience or acumen, but rather by the racial background of the potential candidate, was surreal to say the least.

But as the dust settles and as the country slowly regains its momentum in the wake of the results of the 12th general election, let us take this opportunity to stir up some other sleeping sacred cows and rattle some other popular taboos.

To begin with, let us ask the singular question that nobody seems to have raised thus far: If, as our politicians would lead us to believe, this is indeed a country for all Malaysians, then should it not be the case that Malaysian citizenship and the commitment to the ideal of a plural Malaysian Malaysia be the guiding principle and criteria for all appointments to high office? Should that premise be accepted, would it not be conceivable that one day this country may have as its prime minister or deputy prime minister a Malaysian of non-Malay, non-Muslim and non-Male background? In other words, can we even begin to imagine the day when we may have a prime minister who happens to be of Indian-Hindu background and a woman to boot? And if such a situation is deemed unthinkable by some at the moment, we need to ask: Why? What is holding us back from entertaining such contingencies and variables? Surely what matters most in the selection of any leader or administrator is the competence and sincerity of the individual concerned; and it’s not as if it is the colour of the person’s skin that is doing the governing! (We hope not at least.)

The following imponderable questions can be addressed to all the parties in the country today as well.

Umno considers itself the party that defends the interests of the Malays and bumiputeras, though as we all know, both of these ethnic-racial categories are artificial and were invented as part of the colonial census. Be that as it may, Umno still presents itself as the party of the Malays and bumiputeras, and so let us ask this question aloud: Can the Umno leadership and membership consider the possibility that one day the president of Umno may be of Kadazan, Bajau, Iban, Penan or Peranakan background? Could a Catholic Kadazan ever dream of rising to such a post, and if not, what does this say about the institutional and structural limitations of Umno itself that does not and will not open up such opportunity structures?

PAS on the other hand claims to have transcended the culture and praxis of race politics, and the elevation of its Chinese-Muslim leader (Datuk) Anuar Tan Abdullah in Kota Bharu is a case in point. Yet PAS still has a woefully small number of non-Malay Muslims in its ranks and it remains to be seen if the party can and will make that great leap to non-racialised politics by courting the support of non-Malay Muslims across the country. Now the leaders and members of PAS may wish to consider this imponderable question as well: Can and will a non-Malay Muslim ever become the president of PAS, chief minister of Kelantan or even assume the highest post of Murshid’ul Am (Spiritual Leader) of the party and its followers?

Both the DAP and Gerakan on the other hand are ideologically-defined parties that have foregrounded their ideologies in the course of their struggles. But with the demise of Ahmad Noor, it has become an imperative for the DAP in particular to expand the racial spectrum of its leadership and membership. Already efforts are being made to undermine the hard work that the DAP has put into winning back Penang and those crucial state assembly seats in Perak and Selangor. Barbed comments about the DAP being a Chinese-dominated party may upset the sensibilities of DAP stalwarts who have laboured for so long to fulfil their leftist ambitions, but the fact remains that this perception of the DAP as a Chinese party is real for many and resonates with others too. In the same way that PAS places Islam at the forefront of its struggle, so should the DAP keep its Democratic-Socialist course, but surely the time has come when we can and should imagine the possibility of the DAP being led by a leader who may be of Malay or Indian background?

In the wake of the election, many of us have celebrated what may well be the first signs of a nascent Malaysian nation where citizenship counts the most in defining ones identity. A rupture has been opened up at last in the collective mindset that determines the conduct of our politics, and perhaps for the first time since 1957, we are in a position to collectively redefine the terms of Malaysian politics.

We need a new Malaysian politics that would breathe new life and faith in the political system, and where all of us – mainly on the basis of our universal citizenship – can claim to be stakeholders in the nation-building process. But for this to be the case we have to be brave enough to think out of the box and to imagine what was once deemed unimaginable. Our sacrosanct taboos and sacred rites have held us back too long, and kept us in a state of limbo where political superstitions ruled the day. For so long, we assumed that Malaysians would not vote for change; that the Malays would never support the DAP; that non-Muslims would never vote for PAS. But these certainties have been shattered and we now see that we are a mature, adult nation after all.

So perhaps all we need to do is push the envelope a little further, set our targets a little higher, wish and work a little harder; and our dreams for a truly democratic Malaysia that is the nation for one and all may eventually come true. We failed to send a Malaysian-Indian woman to space, but that doesn’t mean we can’t send her to the Prime Minister’s Office in Putrajaya!

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  1. #1 by HJ Angus on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:38 pm

    It is good that we have started to think out of the box.
    Just look at the USA – they will have the first black or woman President.

    Malaysia will take a few more years. People now getting used to the idea of changing the federal government.

    http://malaysiawatch3.blogspot.com/2008/03/if-prime-minister-is-forced-to-resign.html

  2. #2 by HJ Angus on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:57 pm

    I would like to suggest that the state authorities of Penang, Selangor, Perak and Kedah negotiate with malaysiakini for special subscription rates for the civil servants.

    The expense can be offset from the subscriptions to the MSM that can be reduced or eliminated.

    It is not so much propaganda but more to expose them to what ordinary Malaysians are saying.

  3. #3 by jetaime.f on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:08 pm

    what’s MSM?

  4. #4 by observer on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:13 pm

    Is it not true that DAP is led by Karpal Singh ? I think Farish Noor should note on this fact.

  5. #5 by kcb on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:14 pm

    Main Stream Media.

  6. #6 by ppsbmy on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:17 pm

    HJ Angus, we may have voted differently this time but we need more actions to truly cross those boundaries. & USA might not have a woman nor a black as president as the elections is not finished yet. After all the hypes around the democrats, the people of USA might just go for the norm in getting a male, white president in John McCain.

  7. #7 by jetaime.f on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:19 pm

    kcb: thanks.

  8. #8 by HJ Angus on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:20 pm

    I suspect that the Americans want change after the Bush years and may want the Democrats this time round.

    McCain is a little too old, in my opinion.

  9. #9 by Penang_soul on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:25 pm

    I really hope to see more NON-Malay headmasters in the SK schools in Penang under the DAP leadership. Every SK school you go in Penang the headmasters and the senior assistants are all Malays. Very-very hard to find a NON-Malay holding any top post in SK schools in Penang.The very same goes with the District Education office and the State Education Department. I don’t know if this is also true in other states but I guess it MUST be the same. I have an Indian friend who is teaching in SK school who is almost reaching his retiring age BUT he NEVER got promoted!! He is still an ordinary teacher DESPITE having all the qualifications and all the the extra advantages and inter personal skills as compared to the Malay headmasters in SK schools. He is practically helping the whole school administration in running the school as he is very skillfull in using computers and knows programming etc. an the irony here is those who are holding the top post like the headmaster himself is computer illiterate. This Indian guy who is about to retire also has diploma as compared to his headmaster who ONLY has SPM qualifications. It seems he always becomes the middleman for parents who are well versed in speaking english as the headmaster in that school don’t speak much english. AND THIS IS THE TRUE STORY OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN PENANG.

  10. #10 by jetaime.f on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:27 pm

    yup, JOhn McCain is a strong contender and popular amonst the people too…….but is he as capable as perhaps Bill Clinton?????? it will be interesting to see another chapter added to the world’s history if one of the Democrats win…..
    Popular may not be = capable……

    Thought Karpal Singh is chairman DAP….not sure what’s Mr. LIm’s position in DAP. The news is pretty confusing…..as confused as its Editors these days…….and readers like me :)

  11. #11 by highhand on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:40 pm

    while the woman n the black r still fighting, the white man already touring the world

  12. #12 by elsylei on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:40 pm

    Angus,
    Thanks for being so considerate about getting special rates for civil servants. Don’t forget the pensioners too.
    Also do you know that in JOHOR, bumi house buyers have a discount of 15% unlike the 7% in other states.Why?

  13. #13 by undergrad2 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:43 pm

    “It is good that we have started to think out of the box.
    Just look at the USA – they will have the first black or woman President.” HJ Angus

    The first white woman contender for the nomination of her own party for the post of US President has destroyed the first African American contender for the same! Thanks to Youtube!

    The more likely candidate to succeed George Bush is John MCcain. Being a democrat, rather than vote for Hilary Clinton I’d vote a Republican in – any Republican.

  14. #14 by limkamput on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:43 pm

    Thank you Farish Noor. You made me a proud Malaysian again.

    I wish to raise some issues here and I hope you can address them in due course.

    We all know by now DAP, PAS and PKR have formed the coalition governments in Perak and Selangor. As much as we may want to think otherwise, many do hold the view that the coalition is mere political expediency driven by a common hatred toward inept BN government. In the long term, I guess most Malaysians are desirous of a common Malaysian identity sharing a common destiny. As a non-Malay and non Muslim (and I may be bias here), I have no problem seeing DAP ideology in forging a common Malaysian identity that is acceptable to all other races and religions. What DAP wants is equal citizenship, premised upon a secular government based on constitutional monarchy. In other words, the moment a person holds a public office, he/she must leave his/her religion, race and value at home. What the PAS want, as far as I know, is based on theological state angled upon Islam and Islamic jurisprudence. I guess such an ideology may pose a lesser problem to citizens who are Muslims but it certainly imposes on non-Muslims’ right to equal citizenship. Unless PAS changes its ideology, the party is essentially fighting for an “Islamic Malaysia” which may not be palatable to most citizens, (non-Muslims as well as some Muslims) who want a more inclusive “Malaysian Malaysia”. How can PAS reconcile or do you think other political parties like DAP and PKR should compromise to PAS. You article has not explicitly addressed this issue and I hope to have your view in due course.

  15. #15 by limkamput on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:48 pm

    sorry should be anchored upon Islam and …..

  16. #16 by limkamput on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:51 pm

    undergrad2, what is your problem with Hillary. Don’t assume everybody is Obama’s supporter, ok.

  17. #17 by HJ Angus on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:59 pm

    sorry I brought American politics in here.
    Maybe for the next elections in Malaysia we can organise proper debates in the states held by the BR.

  18. #18 by undergrad2 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 11:03 pm

    “For so long, we assumed that Malaysians would not vote for change; that the Malays would never support the DAP; that non-Muslims would never vote for PAS. But these certainties have been shattered and we now see that we are a mature, adult nation after all.”

    I must say – a rather overly optimistic and less than accurate or even misleading assessment of the current situation. It is far too early for Malaysians to congratulate themselves for their supposed transition to a more mature electorate who would vote across party lines.

    What happened recently is that Malaysians have for far too long allowed themselves to be continually pushed to the brink of political insanity that they would vote for anything that moves – even a cow! If someone were to have registered the name of his cow and file the necessary papers, don’t be shocked if the cow gets elected!

  19. #19 by limkamput on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 11:11 pm

    Yes undergrad2, i agree with you. All the races voted against BN but I think the vote of each race is governed by a different reason.

  20. #20 by justiciary on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 11:17 pm

    To eradicate racial politics,Umno should take the lead.Being the dominant and a race based party in BN,its rule of 50 years has contributed to disunity among the people.DAP is a multiracial party.It fails to gain massive support from the Malays because of insinuations and image tarnishing deliberated by UMNO.Look at DAP’s office bearers and elected representatives.Isn’t it multiracial?Hopefully it will be able to attract more Malays to become members now.For the sake of having a bright future for Malaysia,race based politics should be shoved into museum.

  21. #21 by kopio2 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 11:24 pm

    I think Pas is changing and the leaders is far more better than UMNO leaders. It is time to sit down and discuss for the direction from now to GE13 soon. I believe UMNO is much much more aggresive towards islamic state compare to Pas. The Kelantan and Kedah chinese has told DAP that they are no longer afraid PAS and I believe thru the coperation of PKR and DAP, PAS will not able to build Islamic country in Malaysia. For my prediction, I will say that pas will only won 40-50 seats if in the next election there is a change again and DAP will have about 35 – 45 seats, lastly PKR will have about 40-50 seats too. So it is between 115 to 145.
    So, right now Islamic state will not occur for at least next election. Let support DPP coalition.

  22. #22 by HJ Angus on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 11:32 pm

    The problem with the BN parties is that so many top leaders are not able to pass a close scrutiny.

    We all thought the Penang handover was smooth and gentlemanly but even there the official documents and files have disappeared.

    Guess the state authorities should secure the computers and get some forensics experts to try and retrieve the documents from them.

    They can destroy the documents and that may contain agreements so all BR states can also simply “buat bodoh” and let the other party to the agreement complain and also produce those agreements. They may do a plea bargain to a lesser charge.

  23. #23 by novice101 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 11:39 pm

    We, the true stakeholders of this beautiful country of Malaysia, have asserted our rights. We have claimed back what is rightly ours!

    Now we have got it back, we should nurture it with loving tender care, lest we lose it again. What we have in our hand
    is very fragile, at any moment it can break into pieces. If it breaks, it would be impossible to put it back again.

    So, my fellow-stakeholders, let us tread cautiously.

  24. #24 by just a moment on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 11:54 pm

    Faris, I truly enjoy reading your comment and wish many like you can step forward and share similar views.

    I have been living in Malaysia since the 60′s, experience the not so pleasant days of 1969, Operation Lallang? (not sure if I got it right),Seen the ways Government handle the listless events of injustice being handle down to majority Chinese, Indians and Malays in this order….

    My personal observation about radical changes in Malaysia is
    for mindset to change in terms of racial differences.(Pardon me here coz I understand we are getting away from this old thoughts)
    However the roots of the challenges must not be swept under the carpet less we will have to deal with it more ‘unpleasantly’ in the future.

    Sorry, if I burst the bubble of Joy here (No intention). I will be the first to Rejoice if one day Malaysia can have PM who is a non-muslim. A sultan by the name of ….anak lelaki or perempuan or any chinese person for that matter.For that to happen it requires us to understand the past no matter how ‘unbearable’ like Australia recently apologised to the abor.? I’m not suggesting that anyone should apologise here in Malaysia but the context of burrying the hatchet and start anew is so very crucial.

    1. You see Faris, in Malaysia, Other races cannot, dare not, many would not point out the weaknesses of Malays because they will end up in ISA, etc……. Its the supremo – (Suddenly religion comes to play Islamic countries etc..) No no no. So as a result, what sort of feedback can one get is anyone guess. This is one of the reason
    why I say we need more like you (Malay) to voice out. Afterall, the autopilot mode of learning has to be this way, no other way..period! It has to come from within the Malays, don’t ask me why.

    2. Other than racial differences, I just hope more will talk about ‘similarities’ here. Malays are a wonderful lot.I have been personally blessed to be around with some of the best Malay friends here and obviously have also experience the other extremes. They enjoy peace, fun, success, and many other things all human enjoys. However, when it comes to ‘work’ (touchy subject now) they also like to be succesful Unfortunately they needed role models.Who can they turn to?

    3. Many politicians talks about raising the standards of the Bumis, to be on par with the rest of the other races. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, the question is With What? Learn What?
    How long? From Whom? Where? For starter, I want to tell all my Malaysian Bumis friends. You are made for greatness!! like evryone else is. Whatever you want to achieved, you can have it. Just stand up and ask for help. Don’t just depend on the Government.
    Break away from the psychological bondage, be free!! Be your true-self.

    4. As for the rest of us, We need to show emphaty and keep lots of faith that this one day, we’ll all be liberated. 50 yrs is nothing if we can just focus on the immediate future and here after. Yesterday is dead and gone. So Yes, Faris, Raja Petra et al, pls come forward and lead the charge! I will do my part learning and enjoying our journey together with all races here in Malaysia.

    Proud to be a Malaysian. Tomorrow begins today.
    Good nite loving people of Malaysia.

  25. #25 by A true Malaysian on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 11:56 pm

    This article of Dr. Farish A Noor is actually in the same wave length as Dr. Hsu Forum article titled ‘Race and nonracialism’, which attracted a lot of responses from all races. http://hsudarren.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/race-and-nonracialism/

    The 12th GE has shown that a lot of Malaysians begin to realise the saying of a great leader, Mr. Deng Xiao Ping “it doesn’t matter whether the cat is black or white, as long as it can catch rats, it is a good cat”. This saying, if look at the context of Malaysian politics, can be rephrase as “it doesn’t matter whether the PM / MB /CM is a Malay, Chinese, Indian or whatever, as long as it can manage the country well, he / she is a good PM / MB / CM”.

    I believe we Malaysians can achieve this ‘noble vision’ over time if everyone of us play a part to it. Logically, leaders of all political parties are the one who should ’start kicking the ball’ for others to follow, by carrying out their duties in transparent and fair manners.

    Of course, it is easier to say than to put in action. The main stumbling blocks like ‘Ketuanan Melayu’, Malay rights, bumiputra status, die hard Chinese educationist, race-based parties that champion ethnic rights need to be unblocked over time. I believe such stumbling blocks can be ‘unblocked’ not by force, but by ‘fair play’ and ‘merit’.

    If those in UMNO, MCA & MIC can take the lead by forgoing their ‘race-based’ ideology, for sure this ‘noble vision’ can be achieved sooner then it should be.

  26. #26 by tsalak on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 1:00 am

    “…Are we now ready to evolve a new Malaysian politics that will finally reflect the plural and multicultural reality of Malaysian society today?…”

    Perhaps not yet! the absolute determinant is that magic threshold – 2/3 majority in Parliament or State which will usher out battered yardsticks, with the rakyat empowered by greater tolerance and expanded capacity.

  27. #27 by Noor Aza Othman on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 1:29 am

    Brilliant and enlightening comment as usual from Dr. Farish Noor. The Apartheid Wall definitely needs to come down in Malaysia; for the well-being, especially within the mentality of all Malaysians. The wall was there all along but we, especially the majority ordinary Malay population were, and many still are blinded by such false sense of patriotism due to Umno’s brainwashing strategy, that we decided to ignore the wall. And yet we get so emotional about the Apartheid Wall in Israel towards the Palestinians. Such a shameful history indeed for the Malay or Islamic civilization in Malaysia.

  28. #28 by mycroft on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 2:44 am

    “Sorry, if I burst the bubble of Joy here (No intention). I will be the first to Rejoice if one day Malaysia can have PM who is a non-muslim. A sultan by the name of ….anak lelaki or perempuan or any chinese person for that matter.”

    I for one will not rejoice. The Malay sultanate is an integral part of this nation’s history. Their positions are protected under the Constitution. To install a Chinese or Indian sultan would be to insult one of the deeply held traditions of the nation.

  29. #29 by pulau_sibu on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 7:19 am

    It seems to me we will have new government after April. New government formed by the coalition. It will be very exciting

  30. #30 by sotong on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 7:40 am

    Thanks to our leaders, most Malaysians were brought up not to accept and tolerate differences….they do not trust each other.

    There are hateful extremists waiting for the opportunity to create trouble.

  31. #31 by sotong on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 8:06 am

    Bangsa Malaysia is meaningless…..most people, in particular Malays, are not ready to accept this.

    The misinformation and misunderstanding of the struggle of all races to achieve independent had done enormous permanent and long term damage to a promising multi racial and religious country.

    This is the consequence of decades of bad leadership and governance of the country.

  32. #32 by Jimm on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 9:06 am

    Time will tell ……
    We have decided and now we are at the beginning of that new journey. Don’t quit !!!!!
    We all know that we are doing all these for the good of this country and our children future.
    We are not competing with the world as we are putting ourselves in an unique position of peace and harmony Malaysian for the world to witness.
    Malaysia is the best country with many uniqueness cultures to visit.
    We don’t need to be like others as we are jewels in the crown byitself.

  33. #33 by dranony on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 9:15 am

    One thing which the New State governments of Selangor, Kedah, Penang (Perak?) should do,
    is to call upon Pak Lah to publicly denounce the destruction of documents.
    If the previous administration had been honest and transparent, there would be nothing to fear.
    To destroy or hide documents from a new incoming government, gives everyone the impression that there had been dishonesty, perhaps even criminal activity, that needs to be hidden from the public.
    Even if there is no dishonesty, it would represent hindrance to the work by the incoming government for the good of the rakyat. Such intentional hindrance sets a very BAD precedence for every government.

    Since Pak Lah was instrumental in choosing the previous state governments, and also in present ones in BN held states, he should public denounce this immoral destruction of documents and hindering of work for the rakyat by the incoming government.

    Refusal by Pak Lah to publicly denounce this, would only give the impression that he approves of covering up of impropriety.

  34. #34 by Old Geezer on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 9:21 am

    “I for one will not rejoice. The Malay sultanate is an integral part of this nation’s history. Their positions are protected under the Constitution. To install a Chinese or Indian sultan would be to insult one of the deeply held traditions of the nation.” mycroft

    I think Raja Nazrin made this point clear at this most appropriate time when non-Malays are questioning the monarchy system without understanding the heritage of the country.

    “Raja Nazrin pointed out that the Ruler and the palace were guardians of the state’s customs and traditions, whose government was historically a Malay government.

    “The customs and traditions and palace decorum should be safeguarded and respected and not be tarnished at all,” he said

    He also noted that the royal institution was part of the history and system of governance in the Malay land.

    Raja Nazrin stressed that the royal institution had remained relevant and fulfilled its role effectively from the days of British colonialism to the post-independence era.” Star Online

  35. #35 by HJ Angus on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 9:24 am

    “Document cleansing” should be a criminal offence like obstructing the authorities from carrying out their duties.

    But I think the BR should also not encourage cross-overs from the other side unless they resign and submit to the wills of the people again.

    You can tell us your views on the poll here if you prefer not to write.
    http://malaysiawatch3.blogspot.com/2008/03/what-do-you-think-of-mps-who-cross-over.html

  36. #36 by HJ Angus on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 9:25 am

    sorry typo
    will not wills

  37. #37 by Old Geezer on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 9:34 am

    “Thanks to our leaders, most Malaysians were brought up not to accept and tolerate differences….they do not trust each other.

    There are hateful extremists waiting for the opportunity to create trouble.” sotong

    I agree that we have to be vigilant against “hateful extremists”. But different people consider “hateful extremists” differently depending on their viewpoints. DAP also have extremists.

    To me, this Farish Noor’s article is quite extreme.
    I am not sure of his intention, but as a non-Malay I would steer clear of this debate and let the Malays duke it out among themselves.

  38. #38 by dawsheng on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 9:47 am

    “The debate over who should be made chief minister of Perak, which has been going on for a week now, points to the same sort of intellectual and psycho-social impasse that has kept Malaysia paralysed for so long.” Farish Noor

    Is this the reason why some commentators here insults and calling others name such as stupid, morons etc.?

  39. #39 by dawsheng on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 9:58 am

    “But the question is this: Are we forever to remain beholden to history and trapped by the circumstances of the past? Or are we finally going to admit to ourselves that this nation-state of ours – Malaysia – is an invented construct and as such is also open to deconstruction, revision, adaptation and subsequently evolution? Are we now ready to evolve a new Malaysian politics that will finally reflect the plural and multicultural reality of Malaysian society today?” – Farish Noor

    It is the religion isn’t it?

  40. #40 by mycroft on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:04 am

    dawsheng, you can’t disagree that some comments here have been pretty stupid.

  41. #41 by controlnation1 on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:07 am

    Raja Nazrin stressed that the royal institution had remained relevant and fulfilled its role effectively from the days of British colonialism to the post-independence era.” Star Online

    What ever respect we have to the Sultan,we must remember the Sultan themselves almost agrees to the formation of the Malayan Union(which it’s good or bad status is debattable).

    Also for numerous times, the Sultan themselves lead the offensive against the detractor’s of British rule like in Pahang.(Datuk Bahaman)

  42. #42 by dawsheng on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:16 am

    “Can the Umno leadership and membership consider the possibility that one day the president of Umno may be of Kadazan, Bajau, Iban, Penan or Peranakan background? Could a Catholic Kadazan ever dream of rising to such a post, and if not, what does this say about the institutional and structural limitations of Umno itself that does not and will not open up such opportunity structures?” – Farish Noor

    UMNO seeks to dominate other races to overcome its institutional and structural limitations, but to dominate other races it has to do it within its institutional and structural limitations, UMNO is not meant to evolve. The same applies to MCA and MIC, they divide the people among the races so they can cooperate with each other, this what I called LPPL.

  43. #43 by dawsheng on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:20 am

    mycroft, I think people shouldn’t be too suprise if they found out that they are actually better or more intelligent than others.

  44. #44 by dawsheng on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:25 am

    “Can and will a non-Malay Muslim ever become the president of PAS, chief minister of Kelantan or even assume the highest post of Murshid’ul Am (Spiritual Leader) of the party and its followers?” – Farish Noor

    God forbids!

  45. #45 by justiciary on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:25 am

    Tradition,custom and royal institution may not last forever.Take for example Iran,France,India,China,these countries were once ruled by emperors or kings.Nepal soon will see the monarchy collapsing.

  46. #46 by dawsheng on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:28 am

    “In the same way that PAS places Islam at the forefront of its struggle, so should the DAP keep its Democratic-Socialist course, but surely the time has come when we can and should imagine the possibility of the DAP being led by a leader who may be of Malay or Indian background?”

    Can any Malay who apply to become DAP member but rejected please stand up?

  47. #47 by controlnation1 on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:32 am

    Tradition,custom and royal institution may not last forever.Take for example Iran,France,India,China,these countries were once ruled by emperors or kings.Nepal soon will see the monarchy collapsing.

    Except they only got one.We got 9.

  48. #48 by sotong on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:36 am

    Old Geezer, many non Malay like you are very concerned of hateful extremists in position of trust, power and influence…..these are the people that could create the most damage to the country.

  49. #49 by jus legitimum on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:55 am

    If Utusan continues to go ahead with its unprofessional biased reporting style,soon the paper will be fit for cleaning backside like what we used to do with old papers in the kampungs during the 50s and 60s.

  50. #50 by Godfather on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 11:25 am

    I don’t know and I don’t care if the majority happen to be more intelligent than others, but the basic tenet of the majority is this:

    Any purported supporter of the DAP who criticises the DAP decision to work with PKR and PAS in a coalition, and who openly says that we should give up state administration to BN rather than cooperate with PAS is an idiot. No other way to describe this person.

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