Time to move on into the uncharted political waters
This morning I visited Taman Cempaka market and the Pasir Puteh market together with the three elected DAP Assemblymen in Ipoh Timur parliamentary constituency – Su Keong Siong (Pasir Pinji), Wong Kah Woh (Canning) and Ong Boon Piow (Tebing Tinggi) - to thank the Ipoh Timor voters for their great support in the March 8 general election returning me as MP with a humbling majority of 21,942 votes as well as securing a DAP victory in all the three constituent assembly seats of Pasir Pinji, Canning and Tebing Tinggi with impressive majorities of 6,339, 5,666 and 2,515 respectively.
Earlier, three days ago, I had visited the Kampong Simee and Pasir Pinji markets in my thank-the-voters rounds.
In my rounds today, I received mixed reactions to the proposed DAP-PKR-PAS Perak State coalition government headed by a PAS Mentri Besar, details of which were finalized two nights ago with regard to the 6-3-2 allocation of Exco seats respectively for DAP, PKR and PAS and awaiting the holding of the swearing-in ceremony.
The mixed reactions could be divided into the following categories:
• Support;
• Conditional support with concerns about Islamisation undermining the constitutional rights of Malaysians;
• Outright opposition, regarding the DAP-PKR-PAS coalition government with a PAS MB as a betrayal of the DAP’s general election mandate.
I was asked how DAP’s support for a DAP-PKR-PAS coalition government headed by a PAS MB could square with my repeated assurances in ceramahs during the campaign trail that the DAP had no relationship or understanding with the PAS for the 2008 general election.
I was speaking the truth in the election ceramahs. Up till March 8, 2008, DAP had no relationship or links of any nature with PAS in connection with the general election, as our relationship was only with PKR.
The 2008 general election had produced a new political landscape which forced the DAP to immediately review the political situation, as the March 8 “political tsunami” had not only swept away the unbroken Barisan Nasional two-thirds parliamentary majority, it also swept away the Barisan Nasional in four states, namely Penang, Kedah, Perak and Selangor, and crushed UMNO attempt to recapture Kelantan.
In two states, however, Perak and Selangor, the voters had created a result which forced the three opposition parties, DAP, PKR and PAS to co-operate to form an alternative government as no two political parties would have sufficient majority to rule.
In Perak, DAP won 18, PKR 7 and PAS 6 seats out of a total of a 59-strong Assembly while in Selangor, PKR won 15, DAP 13 and PAS 8 seats out of a total of 56-strong Assembly.
The March 8 political tsunami was historic and unprecedented. It saw voters transcending race and religion when casting their vote, with Malay, Chinese and Indian voters casting their vote for “Change” regardless of race and religion – which is the first time in the history of Malaysian general election, making this the most memorable phenomenon and event marking the 50th anniversary of Merdeka.
As a result, the Opposition in Peninsular Malaysia is collectively more multi-racial, multi-religious and inclusive than the Barisan Nasional, having more Chinese and Indian MPs apart from having a strong representation of Malay MPs.
In a matter of hours between the end of polling at 5 pm on March 8 and the announcement of the election results by midnight, a new political landscape had replaced the old – with all political parties having to come to terms with new political realities.
Mistakes were made by political parties adapting to the sweeping changes caused by the March 8 political tsunami.
For the DAP, we have to address the changes from one of no relationship or link with PAS up till end of polling at 5 pm on March 8 to one where DAP had to decide on some form of co-operation with PAS without sacrificing our principles and policies as a direct consequence of the general election results of the people’s desire for change at both the national and state levels – particularly for the two states of Perak and Selangor.
DAP was unfairly and falsely accused of being anti-Malay and anti-Islam when DAP had reservations about a PAS Mentri Besar for the Perak DAP-PKR-PAS coalition government – which was completely baseless as DAP had supported a Malay State Assemblyman from PKR to be the Perak MB.
It is most regrettable that there are comments on my blog as well as writings by commentators misreading or deliberately distorting my very brief and straightforward comments on the Perak coalition government issue.
That PAS is the smallest of the three-party coalition government, with 6 seats as compared to DAP’s 18 and PKR’s 7, is one important factor for the DAP’s initial opposition to a PAS MB for Perak.
Another is concern about PAS’ Islamic State and hudud law policies, which are also among the key concerns of those in the latter two categories who give conditional support and those who oppose the idea of a DAP-PKR-PAS coalition government.
DAP leaders and members have to be fully aware of these concerns. Whether a DAP-PKR-PAS Perak coalition government with PAS MB succeeds or not will depend on its performance and record to demonstrate (i) that the welfare and livelihood of the people of Perak is better safeguarded and promoted than under previous Barisan Nasional state governments; and (ii) that no further Islamisation policies are introduced to the detriment of the constitutional rights of all Malaysians, regardless of race or religion.
It is time to move on into the new uncharted Malaysian political waters.
March 15th, 2008 at 17: 48.06
Uncle Lim, it is when we are in uncharted water that we ourselves have to change. DAP won not because of DAP supporters, the support came from all communities because of the dislike to BN. It will help if you have some PR skill and not be so damn stern at all times. If you want PAS to understand your struggle, you have to sit down and talk to them again and again until everyone is happy with the outcome. You need that or else this victory will be meaninless come next GE. For the country and for DAP, work with everyone including PAS, talk to them, find some common ground. The ball is in your court.
March 15th, 2008 at 17: 49.23
Macam mana malaysia ata orang manyak bodoh macam raesyatimpiatu bolih jati menteli? tia sutah tua titak paham pelembagaan malaysia ka? Dulu masa muta, tia sokong mahateer lulus pelembagaan balu halang semua raja-raja masok campor politek. sekalang tia suruh sultan pilih BN tubuh kelajaan perak! sultan mana ata kuasa lagi? kalau sultan ikut cakap olang bodoh macam raesyatimpiatu maka pelembagaan malaysia sutah titak bolih pakai lagi la! kalau BN hanya tapat 28 kerusi bolih tubuh kelajaan, nanti talam dewan negeri perak kelusi kelajaan 28, kelusi pemangkang 31 kelusi, mana ata lojik? semua olang talam dunia ini ketawa besar lo! minoriti kontrol majoriti! kalau itu macam pun bolih, menang atau kalah pun sama, tak payah atakan pilihanlaya lagi la, bila cukup 5 tahun, telus panggil sultan pilih BN lagi. Abdula kali ini titak bolih pilih raesyatimpiatu jati menteli lagi la sebab tia sutah tua, titak ingat pelembagaan malaysia lagi, tia sutah ata sakit pakinson, hatar tia ka pusat olang tua la!
March 15th, 2008 at 17: 52.36
Now that the an agreement to rule the silver state of Perak has been made amongst the 3 parties. it’s time to look forward and ensure eavh and every Perak citizen is equally taken care of, especially the poor and under-privileged.
By the way, understand that The Star’s Wong Chun Wai is using his Cafe Latte column to interview Tan Sri Khalid (Selangor MB) and Lim G E (Penang CM). I feel that he should not be accorded the privilege and honour to conduct the interview given the paper’s one-sided reporting and news spinning. I am sure most, if not all supporters of PKR and DAP will agree. The fear is that Wong will spin out something again during the dialogue.
March 15th, 2008 at 17: 53.36
Kit Siang, the majority of the people who voted for the Opposition want to see the DAP as a party with a broad, multiracial outlook; if it wasn’t before, it should be now, especially as you have formed the government in so many states. Working alongside PAS is not only necessary, it is crucial, in order for the DAP to successfully handle this new Malaysian reality. However, I have confidence that DAP and PAS will adapt for the betterment of all Malaysians.
March 15th, 2008 at 17: 55.06
Communicate more… and Let’s move forward and make Malaysia a better place for all Malaysian. U have the people supports and understanding.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 02.20
bring more new and energetic people to serve and disregard the others bad comment work together to bring every together.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 05.12
Lit, we need innovation to succed. In 1999, DAP was hammered because of the cooperation with PAS. The situation is different now. PAS has mellowed knowing that hardline policies does not work in multi racial States. DAP should also mellow down. Like I said previously, Malays will not vote for DAP while Chinese will not vote for PAS. This round, all races vote for DAP as well as for PAS. This augurs well for the nation. The Barisan Rakyat concept is workable. Please think about it. DAP will never be able to rule alone. Somehow one day you need PAS badly in Penang…until that day, i hope you do and say something positive.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 07.43
Kit Siang, ask your son- Guan Eng dont cancell the DEB. DAP may lost many votes from Malays in the next election. Dont forget Malays also contributed a lot to DAP on Mac 8 election. and be remember most of people vote opposition parties because they against BN, not because of supporting opposition. Think twice before make any policy decision and statement to press. Dont give chance to BN to use any issue to make people against DAP, especially the race issue.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 14.30
Like most readers my view is that any objections or rejections must have been made before presenting the final paper to palace, not after. This last minute reverse in your stance somehow portrays that DAP leadership failed in its communication not only with state DAP but also with other coalition partners. It was evident again when Syed Hussein of PKR came out with his stance on seat allocation.
Being top leaders with years of experience you with your counterparts could have avoided this misunderstanding all together if sensitivity and consensus were observed.
However, I’m greatful to all level leaders from PKR-DAP-PAS for resolving the issues amicably and responsibly.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 17.43
Dear Yang Berhormat, Congratulations. In this new area of uncharted blessing it is advisable to seek counsel to say the correct things as the nation is listening. For instance, do not say that you would do away with NEP rather say that NEP would be implemented in its true and scared form i.e to eradicate poverty among ALL races. That would be clearly appreciated by all races. Issues such as songkok, baju melayu are trivial. Wear a baju melayu and a songkok with your dear wife wearing a sari for a official function as this will shut the racists BN for sure. The die hard supporters of DAP should be able to grasp the paradigm shift that we need Malaysians for all malaysians. Yang Berhormat, you need more Malays and Indians in your party. If you have done that then you would have a malay DAP mentri besar in Perak. Well you didn’t see it coming but since it has come, think from hearon as a National Leader for all Malaysians. We the rakyat expect good governance and righteousness in Everything that the current PKR-DAP-PAS undertakes. Please remember that the BN is not that bad if we remove all the scumbags who are corrupted and racists from the party. The PM is a good man its the snakes that surrounds him that made him look bad. Note that all this can change for the better thus it is crucial that BR ( yes sir it exists ) arise and be countered worthy. May the blessing of the good Lord rest upon you and BR.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 17.44
“It is not for Raja Nazrin to select the person he feels is best for the job. He is a constitutional Monarch and is obliged to follow the will of the people.” Malaysian. Democrat
It is for the Malay Ruler of the state of Perak (or the person who represents him i.e. the Regent) to appoint, in his discretion, the person who commands the confidence of the political party which has won the popular mandate as MB and then for the MB to appoint members of his EXCO.
In the case of the Federal Government, the Agong has discretion under Article 40 Sub-clause (2) but acts upon advice. Similarly the Regent in the case of the state of Perak may act in his discretion but that discretion has to be justiciably exercised and does not extend so far as to include actually choosing one of three names put forward to him. The Regent acts on advice. Where is the advice when three names were proposed instead of one? As constitutional monarch he is above politics – meaning not only that he is supposed to act on advice but constitutionally speaking has no political view or preference. His personal views do not matter. The discretion given to him is narrow and limited and exercisable only when there is no clear leader in the party that has won the mandate of the people. Yes, I would agree that it is not for the Ruler or the Regent in his absence, to select the person he feels is best for the job.
“ The will of the people gave DAP the majority of seats by a long way. He should have chosen Ngeh [deleted] . Raja Nazrin was wrong to elect the minority party. That is not democracy.”
The leader from the party that has won the elections and therefore the popular mandate to rule and who commands the confidence of his party should be the only name forwarded to the Ruler. The DAP may have won the most number of seats but in this case they would not be able to form the state government on their own without the cooperation of the other two members of the coalition. The coalition won the popular mandate to govern. Together they exercise the will of the people. You are wrong when you say that the will of the people resides with the DAP. It resides with the coalition.
“In Perak, DAP won 18, PKR 7 and PAS 6 seats out of a total of a 59-strong Assembly while in Selangor, PKR won 15, DAP 13 and PAS 8 seats out of a total of 56-strong Assembly” YB Kit
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March 15th, 2008 at 18: 21.36
Yup, time to move into uncharted waters. A journey into the unknown will bring forth new learnings that will propel us towards a NEW DAWN and hence a NEW MALAYSIA.
May the new coalition government in Penang, Perak, & Selangor take the lead to show the people that they can make it work and come the next GE the enlightened people of Malaysia having seen the results in Penang, Perak & Malaysia will decisively vote not only state governments but also a federal government comprising of the coalition.
To those who fear PAS I have this to share:
Some look fierce, but are mild.
Some seem timid, but are vicious.
Look beyond appearances;
Position yourself for the advantage.
Makkal Sakthi!
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 27.02
Fully agreed that DAP would not have got the results DAP wanted without the votes from ALL MALAYSIANS irrespective of race. I would say it is time to move on … remember it is your vision of a Malaysian Malaysia, so DAP have to work hand in hand with PAS and PKR.I think you should spare a thought of the Barisan Rakyat concept if DAP wants to achieve this MALAYSIAN MALAYSIA concept.So onwards to MALAYSIAN MALAYSIA !!!!
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 28.00
“In Perak, DAP won 18, PKR 7 and PAS 6 seats out of a total of a 59-strong Assembly while in Selangor, PKR won 15, DAP 13 and PAS 8 seats out of a total of 56-strong Assembly” YB Kit
DAP failed to win the popular mandate to govern in these two states. The coalition did i.e. DAP together with PKR and PAS did.
So let’s be clear about that.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 28.02
Saudara Lim, Yes we understand your predicament; but political diplomacy is one important character DAP representatives should learn from now onwards.
Initial close door negotiations; followed by press statement then a visit to the Royal Palace should have been the procedure.
Jumping the gun as in the days of “the opposition” era is not possible now. Patience and understanding (even during protests) plus pair play and justice is all we are looking for now.
Good luck, and you have our support - as always.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 30.24
I am glad the moderator agrees with me as to the relevance of Sec. 3 Sedition Act.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 32.17
everytime I read LKS post and readers comment I feel scare.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 35.47
Some Barisan spent 50 yrs still can’t make it nice for all…
Barisan Rakyat won in the state just slightly more than 5 days, no doubt there will be lots of hard jobs troubling you guys…
Keep carrying on and take care of your health Uncle Lim…
And it is agreeable that we have much more votes from all races in contributing the win of DAP PKR, as well as non-Muslim votes for PAS as well in GE12. Barisan Rakyat now are really a coalition which built by voices from all races and all religion and its truly for all..
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 36.25
YB Lim,
You already aware the tsunami has changed the political landscape completely.
You said “Voters transcending race and religion when casting their vote, with Malay, Chinese and Indian voters casting their vote for “Change” regardless of race and religion” (Do not take for granted the momentum of this change)
DAP’s 2008 Election slogan is “Jom Ubah”. We rakyat have chang. Can DAP also change, please?
Good things won’t come without initial sacrifice.
Please start talking to PAS, voice your concern. PAS may also want DAP to hear their’s as well. PAS may have changed. Look at the profile of PAS candidates, they are not those UMNO types. Never try never know. History may be used as a guide only, but not necessary be used to gauge the current landscape. We are globalised!!!
ALL must change.
The Rakyat started to change, why not the political parties do the same.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 37.43
Commentators would do well to exercise restraint when commenting about the role played by the Regent of Perak in the appointment of the state’s MB recently. You could get YB Kit in very hot soup!
http://www.agc.gov.my/agc/oth/Akta/Vol.%201/Act%2015.pdf
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 42.30
We are in unchartered waters. Yes, you will need to explain to your die-hard supporters who are strongly against working with PAS.It is necessary that the opposition parties not squander away the goodwill of the rakyat who voted for them in order to deny BN that 2/3 majority. You must take the lead to bring about the development of a more civil & democractic society in our country. The rakyat is keeping track and 5 years will pass quickly.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 43.36
Dear Kit Siang,
We all know that it is not an easy decision. If we look at the broader picture, we have no choice. If we don’t do it now, when can we do it?
The achievement is not from one community(”the chinese”) alone but from all rakyat regardless of race and hopefully, this is the 1st step to create what you have been preaching all this while, BANGSA MALAYSIAN.
The BN has been successfully SPLITING Malaysian into classes so that they can ENRICH THEMSELF! SPREAD LIES through their control media so that the rakyat do not TRUST each other.
Now, the Barisan Rakyat has form government in 5 states, it is time to show the rakyat the new horizon. It can only be achieved through CLOSE COOPERATION among the leaders. Remember, the BN is WATCHING! DO NOT LET THEM HAVE THE CHANCE TO “HENTAM BACK!”
I understand the feed back from the market visit is “mixed” because majority of them do not visit this “blog” and BN has “SCARE” them through their media. Remember, “ACTION SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS”, proof to them that this coalition goverment can work TOGETHER AS A TEAM FOR THE RAKYAT that there is no self interest among the parties.
REMEMBER, THERE ARE MANY MANY GENERAL ELECTION IN YEARS TO COME, we do not want this “VICTORY” to be “ONE OFF” VICTORY. We still have a LONG LONG WAY TO GO, at least at this moment we can say that “WE HAVE HOPE!”
GOOD LUCK.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 46.11
YB LKS,
Sekali lagi saya ingin beritahu, saya berbangsa Melayu dan beragama Islam. Minta maaf kerana saya kurang pandai untuk menulis dalam bahasa Inggeris. Walaubagaimanapun saya akan belajar menulis dalam bahasa Inggeris kelak.
Sebelum PRU12 rata-rata orang Melayu mengatakan DAP adalah parti untuk kaum China jika dipandang dari segi corak politiknya dan sokongan. Manakala PAS pula memperjuangkan Islam dan PKR dituduh sebagai panting untuk seorang individu.
Memandangkan majoriti rakyat sudah jelek dengan kepimpinan BN, jadi mereka telah bertekad untuk mengundi parti DAP/PKR/PAS tanpa memperdulikan ideologi parti berkenaan asalkan BN dikalahkan dan di ajar secukupnya. Rata-rata rakyat ini adalah dari kalangan pelbagai kaum yang mengundi parti alternatif bagi menafikan majoriti kepada BN. Jadi, adakah YB berasa kemenangan besar DAP/PKR/PAS ini adalah kerana kredibiliti dan merit masing-masing? Sudah pasti jawapannya tidak. Sokongan bonus kepada pakatan ini adalah disebabkan kepincangan dari parti BN dan kelemahan pucuk pimpinannya dan rakyat membuat keputusan nekad untuk mengundi parti pakatan ini.
PRU12 ini telah mengubah corak politik negara dan sudah pastinya DAP/PKR/PAS perlu juga meroboh mengikut arus semasa. Dengan slogan DAP: JOM UBAH! Oleh itu DAP perlu berubah bagi membela nasib rakyat Malaysia tanpa mengira kaum dan agama. Begitu juga PAS dan PKR.
DAP/PKR/PAS perlu menjelaskan kepada ahli-ahli mereka betapa perlunya untuk mendapat sokongan rakyat dari berbagai kaum dan agama. Bukan sekadar seronok dan bangga untuk melihat kejatuhan BN. Perjuangan politik adalah bertujuan untuk semua rakyat Malaysia. Yang sudi mendengar rintihan rakyat. Yang sanggup duduk semeja dengan parti yang mempunyai ideologi lain berbincang, bermuafakat bagi kesejahteraan rakyat. Kita perlu ubah suasana politik perkauman dan eksterimis. JOM UBAH!
Alangkah bangganya sebagai rakyat Malaysia yang berbagai kaum kita dapat hidup dalam keadaan harmoni dan hormat-menghormati antara satu sama lain tanpa sebarang perasaan prejudis.
Dalam para terakhir artikel YB… “It is time to move on into the new uncharted Malaysian political waters”.. Angin perubahan telah dapat dilihat di negara ini dan kemahuan rakyat seluruhnya dapat dirasai. Terima kasih kerana YB dan penyokong DAP dapat menerima angin perubahan ini. Kita faham ini akan memakan sedikit masa untuk menjelaskan kepada akar umbi. Namun realitinya jika persefahaman dibentuk, pakatan ini akan dapat terus maju untuk membentuk satu bangsa Malaysia.
Perlu diingat bahawa pihak lawan sentiasa mencari peluang untuk melemahkan pakatan ini. Perkara-perkara kecil sekalipun boleh di ulas menjadi besar seolah-olah pakatan ini gagal. Sebagai penyokong kepada pakatan ini, saya yakin pemimpin-pemimpin PKR/DAP/PAS akan dapat bersatu hati menyelesaikan masalah yang timbul secara bersama dengan lebih bijak.
Akhir kata….. JOM UBAH!!!!
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 46.25
ok..ok.So Pas is the MB. What is wrong with that.Call ourself Bangsa Malaysia?? We need to change for the better.Afterall we got rid of BN.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 46.34
I think you and anwar have done the most reasonable job for Malaysia. Forget what BN Chinese parties on what they are trying to fasly accusing you of selling the Chinese to PAS. DAP should teach Chinese to respect other religions like what Anwar taught the Malays to vote for Chinese. We should not be too selfish.
I do felt disappointed with the Sultans, however, based on the way they picked up the MBs. But this is happening in other states as well, on BN! May be the Sultans decided to show their power now, when BN turned weak. I guess you guy should decide if to chnage the rules by amending the constitution. Under the democratic system, the majority should be the winner.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 48.59
you are now part of the administration. from sin chew - ??????.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 50.18
LIM KIT SIANG AND DAP ARE RIGHT ON TRACK FOR FREEDOM AND EQUALITY FOR ALL MALAYSIANS!!
I have written before the election all over that PAS is double-face, no different to UMNO. It is only interested in gaining as much ruling power as it can and will say anything to gain that power. It is a party like Umno, that is based on racial, religious and ultra-nationalist (of a supreme Malay-Islamic nation-state) politics and hence will forever stands in contradiction to a mature and progressive nation-state of truly democratic Malaysia in the future that promotes true equality and liberation for all. I do not think it is too late to rectify this grave mistake of having PAS in the Opposition coalition in the first place as I believe if Anwar & Keadilan plus DAP stand firm with their conviction (I applauded Anwar’s and DAP’s brave stand against the racial based affirmative action New Economic Policy i.e. NEP); there is great potential for Anwar to intensify the effort of changing the mindset of brainwashed Malays. Especially within the ordinary population; who are still brainwashed into supporting the undemocratic and unjust NEP and “Ketuanan Melayu-Islam” (i.e “Malay-Islamic Supremacy”) ideology. For many educated Malays, NEP & such racist, sexist and fascist ideology are no more relevant since many have been exposed to liberal and progressive democracy system and universal human/women’s rights as initiated in the west. (I am talking about the progressive west here in the EU such as the Scandinavian countries). And these Malay educated population are the ones who might be able to influence their parents or relatives from the Malay rural population and low income communities particularly. It is worth a try, and why not?
And to also have in mind that Umno is going to play more dirty in the next election by having “indigenous/bumiputera/Malay” identity as constructed from religion rather than from race/ethnicity. This is the reason for the founder of so-called “JUST” Malaysian NGO, Chandra Muzaffar’s dirty and deceitful outburst against Anwar; in order to prepare the groundwork for enabling Indian Muslims to gain such “indigenous” identity in exchange for loyalty and support for Umno. Whilst their elite-class enrich themselves of course with all the privileges. This is also very dangerous for the opposition as this will enable Umno to buy increase voting support for them in the next election. Besides granting citizenship and possibility of such “indigenous” identity to only Muslim migrant workers from Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Indonesia, and Muslim refugees of Burmese, Filipino and Southern Thai background including in Sarawak and Sabah, in order to also garner that increase votes and loyalty to Umno (this also explains partly the big winning in Sabah and Sarawak for the ruling Barisan National coalition i.e. BN as I noticed when in Sabah and Sarawak how surprisingly many such migrants easily attain citizenship). So I fully support the bravest and wisest opposition leader of all, Lim Kit Siang for taking such a firm stand against PAS on the issue of MB Perak’s position. Besides, there you can see how greedy for power and double-face PAS is; they already gain two states of Kedah and Kelantan. Why can’t they back-off and compromise on the Perak MB issue if they are genuinely co-operating with the coalition partners especially since DAP won the most seats anyway? I never trust PAS and never will; because I have grown up and realize true democracy and universal human rights that cut across race, religion and ultra-nationalism are the greatest rewards for humanity. Particularly in a world dominated by greed, arrogance and selfishness. And as long as the capitalist-elite system and class rules the world and humanity! And male politicians including from the opposition; please do listen and take advise from the women sometimes.
And long live DAP & Keadilan! At least, I could breath again a little bit in this sorry nation-state!
noorazao@hotmail.com
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 50.50
The coalition should seek way to get rid of the BN FEDERAL government NOW. Just 35 more seats, perhaps less now as some in UMNO wanted to go against Abdullah. Who knows about the tsunami. After the 26th Dec 2005 tsunami in Sumatra, another earthquake happened after that. So the second political tsunami should be coming. why not announce a shadow cabinet now?
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 50.53
I am Perakian and are so sure that the DAP-PKR-PAS coalition will bring the changes to Perak. Always remember you are no more opposition but leader in our Perak state to bring hope and lead us “move forward”.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 51.23
you are now part of the administration. from sin chew - Reform not revolution.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 52.52
uncle kit,
We are not fear of PAS (anymore) and we are moving ahead of the old mental, I think you should realise that and moving ahead with us too!
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 53.40
Uncle Kit,
Lets do it for Malaysia and lets make Malaysia for all Malaysians. We will never know unless we try, and i believe as much as DAP is learning about PAS as its new bedfellow, PAS is also learning to be flexible and learn about DAP.
But one thing i know for sure, both DAP and PAS has nothing but good intentions coming into this coalition, and perhaps Uncle Kit, WHY NOT GIVE MALAYSIA A CHANCE?
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 55.12
We have seen the weakness of coalition party where the stronger one dictates and the weaker ones had no choice of pulling out from the coalition government without immediate averse impact to the stability o the country. In the case of coalition government formed out of the political parties who agree on a common objective they can stay one as long as they keep to their agreement. The composition can differ come the next election. In that sense, DAP can cooperate with PAS as long it does not insist on Islamic state. DAP can withdraw from the government as and when needed.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 55.13
Sdr Lim Senior,
[I call you Saudara because of your long-time belief and advocacy of a Malaysian Malaysia.]
DAP, being a nearly totally Chinese based party and grassroot support, at this time, has not choice but to be a part of the ruling [not Unruly] team with PKR and PAS.
More important is a total revamp of the party, to make it a truly multiracial party and practise what it preaches - A truly Malaysian party.
As for your members and supporters, please urge them to be a truly Malaysian Malaysian.
MM
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 56.43
hello! to all
please ensure that we are not traps in threshold of BR opposition dirty agenda that can split BR. you guys have to work like in a team. you and the rest of the team are statesman ( Kerajaan Baru ) now and no longer opposition political figure head.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 58.39
Congrats KIT and DAP, for a very successful election. For some reason, I was removed from your website, for a few weeks before the elections. Am glad to be back again. Yes, we are in uncharted territory. Like all challenges, there is always an opportunity, to show your true colours. We are all watching to see if DAP will rise to the occasion. If you wish to be a National party, I believe that you must learn to work with PKR and even PAS, for the good of Malaysia. Study Islam and Islamisation to see how to make in work in multi-religion Malaysia. I was hoping that in Perak, DAP or PKR will lead, but work closely with PAS and show us all, that in multi-racial Malaysian Malaysia, we can work together. It is not easy, but important. Help us to realise a Bangsa Malaysia. Please continue to keep a very open channel of communication with us, the rakyat, so that you do not become narrow with only the views of your advisers. Know the ground. They are your friends. Try not to be a one term coalition. May I suggest that YB Lim Guan Eng, take a few lessons on how to handle the press, or should I say, the hostile, not on your side press. Please tell the young man to be careful. He is a National leader now. And most of all, God bless Malaysia, and God bless you. We all want to see you all succeed.
March 15th, 2008 at 18: 58.39
Its ok Uncle Lim. As long as the opposition rules with transparency its a good governance. It may be a fragile coalition but let there be understanding among all the elected reps. Show them loose coalition also can rule till the next election. I hope with the new administration in the local council we will see more efficiency in the clearing of drains and rubbish by the city councils.
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 01.35
The following are from Malaysia Today.
“Teng Chang Khim of DAP wants to become the Deputy Menteri Besar of Selangor. He has organised demonstrations the last couple of days to pressure his own party into proposing his name for Deputy Menteri Besar. But he refuses to wear a songkok.
The formation of the Selangor state government has to face delay just because, amongst others, one DAP man wants to become a Chinese ‘hero’ by refusing to wear a songkok.”
Could you please confirm if these are correct? If it is, then I would certainly agree with Raja Petra’s statement below;
“And I suggest Teng also not be appointed an EXCO Member or else he would be placed in a serious dilemma as to whether to wear a songkok or not when he has to appear before the Sultan to take his oath of office. What is so jijik about a songkok? There are more important things to do than fight with the Sultan over what we should place on our heads when we appear before His Highness to take our oath of office. We have Selangor, the most important state in Malaysia, to run. Do you mean to say that just because of a songkok you are prepared to let the whole state government fall?”
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 05.30
Dear Mr. Lim,….I have no wish to ask you how to do your job but for the sake of those who took the greatest risk to vote in the Coalition (PKR-DAP-PAS) think before you act and this is also applicable to the other partners. A good general can see ahead of him what might happen thru his actions. Are you a proative general or are you still basking in your glory i.e David had destroyed Goliath.
You have the experience of politics and I am sure your party treasures your advices. There is nothing more dangerous than rumour-mongering and please do not fall into the trap by giving the Barisan Nasional the amunition. Words spoken cannot be taken back. Like what the chinese said, “You can eat anything you want but you cannot say anything you like”.
I am sure you are wiser now and humble as well. May God bless you as you help to bring this country Malaysia to it’s senses.
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 09.27
Sdr Lim Senior,
Pinjam your site to comment below:
When should a Leader quit?
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When should a leader, a patrol leader [PL] quit? This may help any PLs out there who are still wondering, - “To quit or not to quit”.
On a serious note….
Patrol Leaders should quit….
1. When they lose control of the Patrol, with 5 groups running off to do things their own way, and only 8 left with you. Half of 13 is 7, only 2 more added and 5 becomes 7.
2. When there is a call from outside and within, during a crisis like no1.
3. When your key leaders drop-off, leaving you functioning without your hardcore supporters and leaders. The position becomes very unstable.
4. When you actually lose control, and become crippled in decision making. You lose majority support, and manage with a simple majority.
5. When your predecessor tells you to quit, and there are hints from your successor!
6. When your loved ones, those close to you, advise you, especially your wife, because they do not want you to get hurt.
7. When you cannot control the situation at the ground level - on the streets, in the party machinery, and they stop taking orders from you.
8. When your supervisor [PL’s sovereign super-Visor], rebuts, refutes, rejects your choices. This is a strong sign that your foundation is shaking.
9. When the YL [youth leader] or next generation get `restless legs’ and start marching on the spot, it means they want change.
10. When the man in the street feels so, and writes in your neighbour’s blackboard, opposite your house.
These are 10 reasons for PL to think really hard. I like that man, a good one, a Mr Nice, we will miss him - but destiny is such, it may be time for him to go. Honestly, I feel very sad for him, because we had so much hope in him, when he came on after MM [not Malaysian Malaysian]
If PL stays on in the above situation, it will drag in such a way that will erode confidence in the highest office. Maybe, a few months grace till Merdeka 51.
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 09.49
I was unhappy over the earlier press statement because it went against Sultan’s decision. It is Sultan’s responsibility to choose the MB and thus he is the one that bear the consequence, not DAP or PKR or PAS. So DAP only can recommend. That’s my logic.
Anyway, I understand DAP’s position and why Kit make that statement. It is all explained in your blog. I also understand DAP is not a racist nor anti-malay.
I felt more confident with DAP than BN because we can give comment to Kit thru the Blog, and you response. Unless MSM, it is one-way, and you can’t hear the comments. The result is disastrous.
Do note that it is the readers of the Internet first supported DAP and help spread the news to others to vote Opposition.
I wish any DAP announcement should be made in the Blog only and let the MSM pick it up from the Blog. This way MSM cannot twist it. Is it good? This move also force MSM to behave themselves.
Having thousands of advisors worldwide is better than a handful of your DAP committee. Right?
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 10.58
Dear LKS,
Please look beyond DAP for continuing voters’ support especially from non-Chinese. Here you have a rare opportunity to show your statesmanship and proof that you are (and DAP) one class above the component parties of BN.
Now, we have Anwar who can draw such a big support from Malay voters, so we expect both of you to work together for Satu Bangsa Satu Negara.
FYI, I am a Chinese and I have voted for PAS (State) and PKR(Parliament). See.. even me as an ordinary citizen can look beyond the communal line, so I sincerely hope you (or DAP) do too.
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 11.06
Uncle Kit
I have been a DAP supporter since the 70’s. When I read your blog about the boycott of the swearing in, I was extremely upset and started calling my DAP friends. However once it was clear that our DUN members were going to attend the swearing in cooler heads prevailed and we could see the overall picture. There have been many comments about your decision and many are letigimate ones. I humbly want to say that many of us are armchair commentators. We cannot fully comprehend the burden that you carry for the hundred of thousands of Chinese,Malays & Indians who voted for DAP. I dare say you did not make decision alone without consulting our partners in PKR.
The easy path would have been to let events go ahead without any comments so as not to “rock the boat”. However you are politician with guts to sieze the bull by the horns.
You have our full support, you didn’t go to jail for 18 months under ISA (twice) for nothing. You are 10 steps ahead of us in negotiating through this post election mine field.
As for me I am stay very close behind you.
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 14.31
If DAP does not follow the change this time, DAP could become a mosquito party in this tsunami. This is because the boleg politics is also moving along the line of having two major coalitions, like the democrats and republicans in america, or pan blue and green in Taiwan.
This change in Malaysia is something that no one had anticipated, and it moved in much faster than one expected, so I think you guys are capable of dealing with some unexpectations.
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 15.38
It seems to me that most commentators would like Uncle Lim to adapt to the new environment, which I have no doubt that Uncle Lim is already doing.
But we must bear in mind that this forum has so far been limited probably by and large English educated commentators. There is another very large segment of electorate who voted for DAP because of DAP’s tough stand against encroachment of Syariah law into the realm civil rights.
For a party to suddenly switch its stance because of a new political reality would only be seen as unprincipled. Even if DAP’s stance is to change, there must be serious evaluation, no matter how short the time is.
We will have Uncle Lim to appreciate if a few months down the line, we find that the new MB start having ideas of increasing the encroachment of Syariah laws into people’s lifestyle. We hope that this does not happen, but that is precisely what the serious evaluation, and eventual horse trading was all about - to minimise the chance of this happening.
I would therefore take Uncle Lim’s word as face value that it is a learning process and there were teething problems earlier. A workable formula has now been agreed upon so let’s all move ahead with hope, and a little bit of caution.
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 17.43
“Another is concern about PAS’ Islamic State and hudud law policies, which are also among the key concerns of those in the latter two categories who give conditional support and those who oppose the idea of a DAP-PKR-PAS coalition government.” YB Kit
A case of Islamophobia??
You cannot blame the DAP for having serious concerns - especially now that UMNO is set up to out-Islamize PAS which has made unprecedented inroads into the Malay heartland.
But the fact remains that this country has a sizeable non-Malay non-Muslim population. It is never in danger of becoming an Islamic state certainly not with shariah law displacing the secular English common law. However, to attribute the recent success of PAS to rhetoric would be to ignore the post 9/11 world that we are in.
You have to understand the Malay psyche to understand the ’support’ they give to this idea of an Islamic state. The Malays are never more vocal and more united as when they are on the defensive in trying to defend their way of life. What we are seeing in Penang today is a community that feels threatened. It is all about perception. Facts don’t matter.
The present crop of UMNO leaders are so corrupt and self-serving that more and more Malays are withdrawing their support for UMNO and turning to the opposition in an effort to stem the abuse of power. It does not mean that they support PKR or PAS.
As soon as UMNO is able to resolve the internal leadership crisis, purging the leadership of such corrupt elements who have through their activities undermined Malay unity, the flow would be reversed. Kedah and Perak may return to BN come next general elections. I am not so sure about Selangor.
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 20.02
A PKR/DAP/PAS cooperation henceforth seems inevitable. Everybody has to move forward constructively and positively to forge a working relationship that benefits all Malaysians.
I still think PAS can be reasonable and principled. The coalition has to hammer out consensus on a continuing basis amidst the challenges that surface and the new terrain that have to be traversed from now on.
I still think all Malaysians must stay positive and give this new coalition some brathing space at least for the first 100 days to get their acts together.
DAP, of course, can and must be willing and prepared to sacrifice for the cause of principles if needs be. But God forbid that such a day should emerge.
Once again, SYAbas to all 3 parties - PAS/PKR/DAP. Wish you godspeed in all matters of the states.
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 23.46
ENDANGERED HORNBILL Says:
‘I still think PAS can be reasonable and principled.’
The core principle that PAS holds on to is Islamic State. As Hadi Awang has said, PAS will not give way on the issue of Islamic state, since this is why they are fundamentally different from UMNO.
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 26.38
This election signifies the changes that the nation needed very badly and this has cheered me greatly as an expatriate. On the other hand, I understand that the political landscape within the next 5 years is more treacherous than before. This may be the beginning of an end of an autocratic “democracy”, or the end of the beginning of a democratic reform.
What form of federal democratic governance do these states want? Constitutional Democracy (as per Charter of Declaration of Independence)/ Rational democracy / socialistic democracy etc?
What sort of changes do the people really want, in regards to employment, economy, education, religion and race? Perhaps an all inclusive cross sectional socio-economical survey may assist the MBs in making the unbiased and fairest decision? This was not conducted under the BN rule, and hence the shortfall. (Not to mention that the publication of such results reflect the sympathetic and fairer nature of the governing party…. )
Uncharted territory….ha… a scouting party is the next logical step.
Let’s hear what the people has to say, the old and the young, the wealthy and the poor, the educated and the illiterate, and act on it!
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 29.21
Just information, a lot of Chinese in Titiwangsa (W.P) voted for PAS, and also encourage many to vote for PAS (PAS vs BN),
For non Muslim, in this 2008, PAS is better than UMNO!
DAP, PKR, and PAS MUST work together, or else, rakyat will be with BN for at least another 20 years, by then, surely it is TOO LATE!
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 34.01
Congratulations Uncle Lim,
Yes, lets move on.
All the best & rest well uncle.
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 40.24
Now everyone has to remember UMNO is the enemy. As predicted they are playing the race card. Using every statement made by DAP.
DAP has to know how to make statements that make people see logic and shutdown UMNO at the same time.
Regarding NEP, it should not be removed, it should be modified to server all underprivileged people of all races. UMNO has been using NEP to fill thier pockets by getting contract and sub-contracting it to non-Malays at a higher price. 50 years of NEP and you are telling me there are still huge majority of poor Malays. Of course that true, its prove UMNO has been doing nuts to help most of the Malays. They need a huge number of Malays so they can continue to use NEP to make money. DAP should make this statement.
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 41.10
Dear Mr. LKS,
I see some hope in this country with the recent political Tsunami(which I previously would not dare to dream that it would happen). I hope that DAP, PAS, PKR and others who advocate justice, fairness, freedom, corrupt-free and progress would cherish this achievement and move forward together to do a good job that may pave way for another win in next General Election that may see the current federal government being toppled. If DAP, PAS and PKR are not united and strong enough to show Malaysians that you can work together and bring positive changes to this beloved country, I am afraid a lot of people would support BN instead in the next General Election.
For a start, I strongly urge all DAP MPs and State assemblymen to polish up your command of Bahasa Malaysia, learn to know more about our fellow Malays’ life and custom, get closer to them and prove to them that DAP is a party for all races and not for Chinese only. Of course please talk less and work more as well, knowing that mainstream media would not be friendly to DAP in their reporting as in the recent case of Guan Eng’s comment on NEP. THIS IS BECAUSE for so many years mainstream Malay dailies have been brainwashing Malays with an idea that DAP is anti-Malays and anti-Islam.
We hope to see DAP, PAS and PKR grow stronger and stronger so that we have a balance of power in this beloved country.
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 41.27
u have to be a visionary to become a revolutionary or reformist.
pity there are many sore losers around
i plea the Sultan of Selangor to give the ex dentist two tight slap on his face
also the sg sungai siput elephant after been brought down now become a mammoth, waiting for extinction…….
n the Mr LKY should just learn to shut up, perhaps he would if his LSP won
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 41.56
‘working alongside PAS is not only necessary,it is crucial in order for the DAP to successfully handle this new Malaysian reality.’.robleong.
Working alongside PAS at all cost is suicidal if PAS were to move stealthily and steadily towards the path of islamization and installation of an islamic state.They have not removed their agenda of turning the country into an islamic state.
However working alongside with PAS towards eliminating corruption,public fund wastages,non transparency,crime,raping cases,marginalizations and institutionalised racial discrimination is HIGHLY DESIRABLE>
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 42.34
Uncle Lim, It would look good if all elected DAP candidates practise good governance, transparency and intelligently and above all proof to BN that we are far fetch better than them to run this country. Issues like NEP can easily be tackled if right ingredients are addressed. 1st of all subject on Malay supremacy should not have been raised at this stage but rather should have waited at least about 6 months down the line. More importantly, we should plan to gain and earn respect among from all races including the Malay. There many ways to do it, if I may suggest taking an example on the issue related projects issued by State governments.
The first thing should have been done was to investigate the type of projects, cost of the projects, who was the nominated contractors and their background. Maybe you need to get some professional assistance to evaluate on this matter and with current situation there are many consultants out there would more than glad to assist you on this matter. Knowing previous BN Mentri Besar of state government would have awarded a projects 3 times the actual cost and most likely would have practised nepotism or cronyism. From here, you can expose great details like:-
1) Cost - Why so much was given? when compared the cost given to non-bumi is less.
2) Quality of work– Good products with superior quality ensures long lasting.
3) Performance – If given a non-bumi then half the time would have been saved (completing projects on time). More importantly, overheads are reduced which would generate more profits. These profits can be used for good purpose to help the poor and needy – providing electricity, water etc especially in the estates.
With this triumph card on your hand, we can open the subject on NEP, maybe re-invent name to some other name like NEE (National Economic Equality) or DES (Dasar Ekonomi Saksama) which in turn create Malaysian Businessman with knowledge, experience and understanding sharing among all races. Then the next stage would be to impose all contractors to have equal equity in between Bumi and Non-Bumi, so that the Bumi’s are thought the right way to do business because they claim that they are lacking on business management and entrepreneurship.
If this kind of arrangement are practice for the next 4-5 years then I don’t see why DAP can be take over the government and rule this country.
Best Regards,
Praba.
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 47.02
Uncle Lim,
Yeap, uncharted water indeed, but isn’t it exactly what you hope for all these Years of trying? It is silly to even think for a moment, that DAP can have everything they want.Even today’s parents can feel it with their childrens. Time changed. Whilst we understand and appreciate that you will look after the welfare of Chinese, PAS is of no different for the Malays.
Sometimes all we need is that opportunity, and this is The Opportunity and you know by now, nothing can be garanteed. Whats required now, more than ever is this Step Of Faith. Believing that whoever the MB, In this case PAS, he will do a good job. Afterall, we all are in “Probation” operiod of 5 yrs?”
As New Dawn sets in Malaysia for the first time, Someone has to start first in showing trust. Although I wish (Heart) the Sultan will pick a DAP as MB I know (Head) its as good as dreams And it’ll remain so DREAMS. Unless and until we can win the love and trust of Malays, we’ll remain in unchart journey. Its no difference from any marriage, lots of give and take. PAS and PKR surely understand this NOW.
Anyway, the good news now - Lets look forward evrybody and focus on the target on a “successful’ multiracial State. And when this new Government can put it right, the result can be far-reaching-even to the Rest of the World!Aim for longer term goals while we work hard together for short term goals.
One more thing, be mindful of ‘Opposition’ every tissue from you all can always turn to Issues! so, march “On All Ye Great people of Malaysia”. Make A Change & Make It Work”!!!
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 49.11
dear msians, “BUY NO PAPERS, READ NO LIES”. d NST, STAR, B.Harian, Utusan, Tamil Nesan & even The SUN r now feeding lies & garbage 2HELP umno ultras 2create racial chaos. they cudnt accept d elections defeat gracefully & r now attackg d oppositn in thru wreckless means via these newspapers. there r bigger problems brewing in UMNO, MCA, MIC, Gerakan & PPP but no mention. d PEOPLE OF MSIA now appeal 2 ALL msians of ALL RACES 2 STOP BUYING THESE PAPERS 4 ONE WEEK EFF. Mon, 17/3 till 23/3. For NEWS go to malaysiakini, malaysia-today, bbc,cnn, al jazeera. lets again show d cowards our unity. pls fwd to 60 people…
This are the recent message been circulating aroun via sms … Please take not
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 51.45
Uncle LKS,
Your uncharted water is actually the malay people. Did you go around asking the malays also what they think of your controversial decision or you just go to your ‘people’.
I also wandering if that was DAP central committee decision, why it appeared in your blog. Are you the DAP SEC general?
The moment PRU12 results were out…..my thought was that you, DS Anwar and maybe Datuk Dr Hassan Ali were busy sorting things out. Hmmm guess I was wrong. Seems like you were busy with the appointment of Penang CM.
I support moderate DAP leader…just like I support moderate PAS leader……or am I just dreaming?
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 53.23
Malaysia - the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship DAP. Its five-year mission: To explore and work well with the new PKR & PAS alliance to govern well states won in GE 2008. To right the wrongs of 50-years of BN rule. To ultimately form the new Government of Malaysia in the next GE. To boldly go where no DAP member has gone before.
I understood all along the predicament that you were facing, given that voters abandoned DAP over its alliance with PAS in 1999. I also know that you have spoken for justice and fairness for all Malaysians, irrespective of race and religion. Given this, I too felt that the accusations that DAP was anti-Malay and anti-Islam was just plain wrong.
Unfortunately, the whole thing blew out of proportion when you said that DAP was to boycott the swearing-in ceremony in Perak. It was to the extent that you had to apologize. Despite the apology, I saw that people were still annoyed by that action. I suppose that one reason is that the Perak royal family is perhaps the most respected royal families in the country. But I do think that Raja Petra’s Yellow Card is going a little overboard. He should understand the difficulties DAP faces in an alliance with PAS.
The mood in 2008 is vastly different from 1999. People voted for change. Given this, DAP-PKR-PAS have been forced by voters into a shot-gun marriage. People simply want the DAP-PKR-PAS alliance to work, so that we have an effective two coalition system. PAS, has toned down, so many people say. Perhaps, its also time for DAP to tone down. I am sure that if PAS even attempts to impose Islamic law, that they too will be opposed by voters.
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 57.03
Lim Kit Siang,
I am from Penang, now in FT. My parents are staunch supporters of you/DAP but not their children. From the time we can remember how my parents talks abt politics, abt opposition, we know abt Karpal Singh & your name. Now we have grown up. But non us were DAP supporters. The reason was simple. Both of you made so much noise..majority were empty, no substance, no depth, no strategy, tactless….just YELP & YELP & YELP.
Well, the last election, our votes were swing. Not just us, but many of our childhood friends/schoolmates/workmates’s too. But it was NOT because we think you have improved (karpal singh did though) but it was all the BN’s doing that disgust us. (Remember & be mindful of this in this term.)
But it looks like though you have aged, but you are still the same, tactless, lack strategy in tackling situation, w/o objectives in mind…you may have reversed your decision but the damage is done, the trust is chipped. You loose voters right from the moment they put you on the starting line of the race for the next election while the PKR is harnessing their every steps of the way. In the light the 3 opposition parties, you/DAP is the most tactless of all. If the former DPM, with such tarnished image & reputation, they can do better, 18+%. DAP needs to be wiser & smarter.
The whole swing of the election is big. But please remember, this is not a victory. This is just the start of the race for the next election. The fall in the next election can be even bigger for DAP. So, please, if you are truly for Malaysian (not just chinese, though it is a honourable course to fight for the Chinese), exercise humility with you DAPian internally, go seek their advice on the act you wanna do, especially from the fresh young bloods, have check & balance instead of acting alone in such a haste, ill teamwork which shows through inconsistent stands among you guys will only back fire on you & DAP.
I hope you/DAP will work really hard to stack trust, integrity, strength, strategy…from now on & no more of all this nonsense.
March 15th, 2008 at 19: 59.44
wonder how umno, mca, mic, gerakan, ppp i.e. the government top politicians, policy makers, strategists, advisers, think tank fellows totally misread rakyat’s sentiment ?
they have charted a wrong future for Malaysia.
they do not understand what rakyat needs
more dangerously in this age of international politico-military-economic conflicts can they manage the country n protect Malaysia and her rakyat interest ?
i’m afraid no, they have failed the rakyat. i doubt they can manage greater perils aboard.
but we rakyat will survive somehow…. we pray
March 15th, 2008 at 20: 08.09
pas ideology is only for muslims as far as i knw.extremism news we heard are only fr the one sided newspapers that are controlled by the crooked government.islamic state issues wont be much of a problem if we are all recognised as true malaysians regardless of our race.islam doesnt go against others in terms of religions.true muslim will nvr claim its supremacy against others.i knw a good muslim whn i see one.and i am sure we as malaysians hv true good friends regardless of different religions among ourselves.we live in a multi racial country…lets not make religions come in our way to claim ourselves as true malaysians.we fought hard to hv this reforms today fr bn and its crooked leaders.lets not throw it away.
i am a chinese and i dun consider myself a chinese supremo tho my grandparents are fr china.china is such a big super power compared to…err…excuse me if i sounded a little bit harsh…malays?chinese history of brilliance achievements surpasses any of its kind compared to err…ketuanan melayu.and i hv nvr even considered myself a chinese supremo.i am born in this soil…i am a malaysian and i am proud of being a malaysian.these low life scumbags still play ard and fool people with their ketuanan issues.personally and truthfully i dun find anything special abt these ketuanan.wats so special abt this ketuanan thing and wat do u get fr all these ketuanan penipuan?why claim urself to be special above others whn most of these leaders behave like monkeys?will all malays get richer by claiming the ketuananship?
i just wan to be a normal malaysian like others in this country whr we all hv equal rights and benefits.good leaders will nvr patronise on racial sentiments….those are the idiots we hv seen thru the news fr the websites.they forgot whr they came from.they think god gave them the right to do wat they want.and they can claim themself to be true leaders of the people whn they hv lied,cheated,swindled,instigated and can even get away with the most devious crimes.these idiots ought to win oscar awards for their fine actings.
abdullah is nothing without the peoples support at one time.we trusted him to make changes…and changes did he certainly made…much worse.hes just an ordinary man with no quality leadership in my point of view as a common citizen.and among all the prime ministers i think hes the most useless of the lot.period.
March 15th, 2008 at 20: 17.28
Those who keep drumming about PAS and their pursuit of an Islamic state fail to understand that in Islam there can be no separation of state from religion. It is not like PAS has a choice.
DAP could, of course, choose to withdraw from the coalition in Perak, citing its ideological differences with PAS after having fought and won the elections as part of the coalition of which PAS is a member. It will revert to being just another opposition party and with three parties going their separate ways, BN then forms the state government in Perak.
Political pragmatism rather than ideology should dictate the role of the DAP if it wants to form the state government. The MB only heads the EXCO. He is not the EXCO. There is a huge difference.
March 15th, 2008 at 20: 22.24
Uncle Kit,
Let us face the truth that in order to be able to rule the state by DAP. PKR and PAS we need to co-operate. Cooperation, is the process of working or acting together, which can be accomplished by both intentional and non-intentional agents. In its simplest form it involves things working in harmony, side by side, while in its more complicated forms, it can involve something as complex as the inner workings of a human being or even the social patterns of a nation. It is the alternative to working separately in competition.
Cooperation, more formally speaking is how the components of a system work together to achieve the global properties. In other words, individual components that appear to be “selfish” and independent work together to create a highly complex, greater-than-the-sum-of-its-parts system. Examples can be found all around us. The components in a cell work together to keep it living. Cells work together and communicate to produce multicellular organisms. Organisms form food chains and ecosystems. People form families, gangs, cities and nations. Neurons create thought and consciousness. Atoms cooperate in a simple way, by combining to make up molecules. Understanding the mechanisms that create cooperating agents in a system is one of the most important and least well understood phenomena in nature, though there has not been a lack of effort.
However, cooperation may be coerced (forced), voluntary (freely chosen), or even unintentional, and consequently individuals and groups might cooperate even though they have almost nothing in common qua interests or goals. Examples of that can be found in market trade, military wars, families, workplaces, schools and prisons, and more generally any institution or organisation of which individuals are part (out of own choice, by law, or forced).
Cooperation vs. competition
While cooperation is the antithesis of competition, the need or desire to compete with others is a common impetus that motivates individuals to organize into a group and cooperate with each other in order to form a stronger competitive force. Many people resort to this because, they may cooperate by trading with each other or by altruistic sharing.
Move on….cooperation is the word…DAP will make it..as well as PKR and PAS.
March 15th, 2008 at 20: 24.58
“They have not removed their agenda of turning the country into an islamic state.” AhPek
How could PAS do something like “remove” the Islamic state concept from its agenda?? Under Islamic theology, there can be no separation of state from religion.
March 15th, 2008 at 20: 28.53
Dear Uncle Kit,
Is there any plan to set up a Barisan Rakyat newspaper or television in these 5 states? In Penang, many people are tired without the real news coverage on what’s happening in Barisan Rakyat.
There are a group of voters, that i used to calm them on what really happening in Barisan Rakyat camp, but it is best if we have a genuine report to substantiate my thought.
March 15th, 2008 at 20: 32.25
In principle, DAP’s rejection of PAS candidate as MB is correct. It is important for us not to lose sight of our ideals under all cicrcumstances. Otherwise, what is the difference between DAP and other non- UMNO component parties in BN ?
DAP can exercise flexibility in strategies and tactics, but not fundamental principles on which the rakyat support the party !
As PAS is showing more moderate stance and conciliartory, DAP can explore the possibility of working with it to find common grounds.
It must be emphasized again and again that DAP must continue to uphold its founding principles of a Malaysian Malaysia. Otherwise, it will suffer the same fate as Gerakan !
March 15th, 2008 at 20: 35.34
YB Lim,
Good to hear from you responding. Your comments have reach 1600 with no new posting…..
As for MSM, I agree with stnaaron. What was the response of the boycott MSM day last Tuesday? Not effective enough I guess.
Stop reading the papers!!!! And stop the advertising. Lower reader ratings will make the big guns stop advertising in MSM as well. Really need to get the message across. Get WCW out of a job and those spineless so called “journalist”. Say no to MSM until we get a formal apology from them and an admission of bias reporting before even considering reading them!
We’ve shown people power through the elections. Now lets show people power to the main stream media, that they are NOT ACCEPTABLE!!
JUST DON’T BUY IT!
Get The Sun for FREE! Whether it can be done or not, Ask Selangor Government to issue back up printing and distribution license to give SUN reporters the reassurance and safety net to print the TRUTH!
March 15th, 2008 at 20: 36.23
Let us fully concentrate on how to manage these newly acquired states now. The next general election will be determined by how the coalition DAP/PKR/PAS able to perform this term. We should not let BN to capitalise on issue especially with the mainstream media being their mouthpiece.
March 15th, 2008 at 20: 36.36
In politics, there is no permanent friends nor permanent enemies, we just have permanent interests.
The Perak MB situation is unique and very challenging to the DAP leadership. The present formula of 6:3:1 for DAP/PKR/PAS is a good compromise. As I said earlier, a PAS MB is just a figurehead. With DAP controlling 6 out of 10 EXCO seats, there is no way PAS MB can do anything.
This is similar to Penang during Koh’s time as CM. Koh was the CM but UMNO was the taiko and call the shots.
DAP supporters must learn to see the forest rather than the tree. Even PAS has toned down the Islamic agenda. With Sabah and Sarawak being “Christian” states and they hold 30% of the parliamentary seats, PAS alone as a party, cannot garner 2/3 majority in Parliament.
I must thank and applaud Kit Siang for being a real stateman by apologising to the Perak Sultan. Strangely, UMNO leaders in Perlis and Trengganu have offended the royalty with great impunity and have yet to apologise.
Thank shows DAP has come of age. One up for DAP.
March 15th, 2008 at 20: 39.44
Uncle Kit, my family and my clan give you and DAP our 110% support!
Continue to keep your heart and mind close to the ground, stick to your age old principles and you would be rewarded in Heaven.
Now, go do what must be done. Cheers! Bravo!
March 15th, 2008 at 20: 43.30
Remember our logic to vote Opposition is: Not-BN. This mean we will support PAS if that is the only choice.
March 15th, 2008 at 20: 45.31
“This is the reason for the founder of so-called “JUST” Malaysian NGO, Chandra Muzaffar’s dirty and deceitful outburst against Anwar; in order to prepare the groundwork for enabling Indian Muslims to gain …” Noor Aza Othman
Chandra and I went to school together. He was then Chandrasekhran Pillai. I can testify to the impeccable integrity of this man. When he said Anwar was dishonest, he was comparing the old Anwar to the Anwar who has been incarcerated for daring to oppose his mentor. He chooses not to acknowledge the ‘rehabilitated’ Anwar. Anwar’s worst enemy today is himself as he struggles to restore his credibility.
March 15th, 2008 at 20: 51.09
Chandra Muzaffar is not one of those Indian Muslims who tend to be more Malay than the Malay themselves. He is a convert to Islam.
March 15th, 2008 at 20: 51.16
Uncle Lim, you will always have our supports…. We thank you for the sacrifices you and the fellow DAP members had done for us. Keep it up!
March 15th, 2008 at 20: 53.26
One swallow does not make a summer.
One solitary PAS MB cannot be a great threat to non-Muslim rights when there are so many DAP reps who will put him in place.
In fact DAP will have to dictate things to him , not the other way round.
He will have to dance to DAP’s 18 + PKR’s 7 tune.
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 02.57
YB Kit
Now you are a part of the State Administration i.e. the State Government, As such you will have to alter your perspective of things. You no longer belong to the opposition! Those BN scoundrels are now in the the opposition.
As such you & your team must adopt the conduct of the ruling party. Yes there are new details that you are not accustomed to; new concerns that have never been raised & new responsibilities that must be upheld better than those useless BN opportunists. There will be many more new governing experiences to agonise about but that is what you have always wished for as a veteran politician, isn’t it? So go forth & give your best shot using your ample experience and intellect. The rakyat is all behind you in your quest.
Please do not be apologetic about sharing power with the PAS & PKR. Without the chance to be in the ruling coalition how else can you prepare yourselves to take over the running of MALAYSIA to replace the BN? Best of luck & we the rakyat trust in your judgement. Don’t disappoint us please,
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 04.19
Hello! Islamic applied to Muslim, not chinese not indian, so we should respect that, by declaring islamic state should not apply to all non islam, that’s their individual right.
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 04.49
Sir,
I totally agree with you that we are moving in uncharted waters.
The unprecedented and unexpected win by the opposition, has obviously caused a lot of chaos within all the parties from PKR, PAS and DAP in the early hours of the announcement of the victory. Suddenly, all of you had to come to terms to form the new government for these few states that you have won, instead of just going back to the comfortable position of being the oppositions!
And I must admit, it must be hard to organise yourselves as the preparations did not take into account this landslide win or tsunami as you have called it.
In my humble opinion that first few days were the most crucial times, where stong leadership from all parties had to take precedence. That obviously include finding some common ground to work on. It obviously lacked that -judging from how and the way some things have turned out.
Especially the case in Perak. The names for the MB were supposedly already agreed upon by all the 3 parties, which were then subsequently submitted to the Sultan for his consideration. When the selection was made by the Sultan, there was a total turn around by you guys even suggesting a boycott! So typical of the oppostion ways of doing things.
This has caused an outcry from all the supporters, especially folks like myself who believed in the concept of the Barisan Rakyat and voted you guys in. We cried out because of concerns that it will be not be beneficial to the cause of creating the bigger picture and agenda and that it would be exploited fully by the BN and its media spins - which in fact they did and are still at it!
What I could not understand was the lack of communication skills whereby every effort to project the right image and branding for the new coalition government was not capitalised on, at that very critical stage. Instead, there were opposition from every turn against each other in the coalition. This was a sad fact, as it could have worked in your favour and for everyone in the new coalition government. It could have been exploited to the fullest and to the advantage of the new coalition government, to create a different and different image that the BN quite frankly is very worried about. Unfortunately the reverse was true.
Maybe the state of mind in PAS, PKR and DAP were just that - conditioned to oppose! So, when given the chance to be government - it became totally lost and continued to oppose instead of behaving with political maturity and have all such important decisions and discussions behind closed doors!! (To be fair, maybe not so much PAS as they already had the necessary experience to govern Kelantan).
And all your concerned supporters could do was to watch in horror, with disgust and frustrations on the sideline as the events unfolded. This has contributed to some 1,600 feedbacks on your blog - some even quite extreme and some comments, uncalled for.
Anyway, the damage has been done and you must admit, YB Lim, that you had to go on damage control after that, including apologizing to His Royal Highness, the Sultan of Perak and the Regent. That moment could have worked for you but you chose to do it the traditional way - oppose first - talk later. Perhaps you will be wiser after this lesson.
YB Lim, we have great faith in your leadership but now that you are in the government, moderation will be your most useful tool going forward. Any suggestion of extremism, however unintentional or small will work against you and the oppostion. The BN will capitalize on the issues and will shred you guys like never before even for the smallest and slightest mistake.
A humble request, please brush up on your PR skills - that goes for all the DAP veterans who wish to move with the times. As an example, I saw the interview on Aljazeera with Riz Khan. Datuk Seri Anwar, when invited to speak, first acknowledged the moderator by calling out Riz’s name. When it was your turn, you jumped straight into the subject totally ignoring the moderator’s presence. The difference was very apparent to me.
And your YB Teng, was reported not wanting to wear songkok and all (in RPK’s article) will not be well received, especially when you have to deal with Malay protocols. That to me, shows a total lack of PR skills. It also projects an image of arrogance and lack of respect and sensitivity to the royalty and Malay culture although there is totally no such intentions on you and your team’s part.
Don’t get me wrong, I have the utmost respects for all of you. But hey, sometimes, you will have to face reality and move with the times as I see nothing wrong in showing respect to each other’s diverse culture. Heck, I have even donned a songkok with baju Melayu to boot before. Does that make me any less of who I am? (By the way, I am anak Bangsa Malaysia as I refuse to be associated with any identity of race anymore).
The ‘opposition’ mentality and approach may not work for you anymore - so please get some advise on how best to deal with these issues and use it to your advantage. Perhaps it is time for you to start engaging professionals to help rebrand DAP and overhaul all the party stalwarts attitudes to fit with the times.
Anyway, that is my two cents worth. The bigger agenda will force you and everyone else to work with PKR and PAS. This will require a total change of attitude from all. PAS will also have to come to their senses and be moderate as well. This hopefully is a start for better things to come.
Thank you for listening YB Lim and thank you for giving us an opportunity to give you our opinions. I hope you will discard the ones which are just noises and use the ones (there are many here in your blog) that may help you and the rest move along.
Let’s move forward to create the bigger agenda for our beloved country. Let’s create the most powerful Barisan Rakyat to take on the BN for the next GE and take our country back from these bunch of backward, racists, low level thinkers - the thieving UMNOputras.
Sincerely,
JK
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 13.56
ok i cannot refrain myself from commenting anymore…
as i am reading all the replies from the previous post and this post, again and AGAIN and AGAIN i see commentors reminding LKS that this is not about the cina community, we must work towards a bangsa malaysia blah blah blah. may i know WHY are you people giving this advice AS THOUGH LKS ever did or said anything that suggests DAP is cina-centric?? about this Perak issue, LKS said what he said due to the reasons he explained above: he is NOT anti-malay - he just opposes PAS, *not* because they are malay but because of their ideology. IDEOLOGY! did he say he doesn’t want PAS so that only the cina community will strive? NO. he doesn’t support PAS for worry of their hudud laws and what not. I know that worrying about all this is beside the point right now as the DAP-PKR-PAS coalition was a ‘forced’ coalition (in the sense that: although they don’t agree with each other, they had to review their priority in order to get BN out!) and they now have no choice but to find a way to work together. I’m not saying that it was right for LKS to boycott the event - I too would have advised LKS to be more diplomatic to avoid damage to the coalition. What I’m saying is: please stop already with the suggestions that DAP is cina-centric/race-centric!! That was never suggested, never what LKS meant! For this alone, I pity LKS for being misunderstood!
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 17.03
YB, in life, one can slip once in a while, but picking up yourself and acknowledge that slip surely marks you as a leader. Now that, you are one of the main divers, let us move forward and make this country a paradise for all: through honest, transparent, and responsible governance.
The general public had been frustrated over the last 20 years or so,having been treated like small kids,while they preached all the holier than thou sermons but at the same time cheated and stole from the public coffer. It was because of the pent-up frustrations that turned the table, not by any mean the oraory skills or good sale pitch of the Opposition. As a matter of fact, BN WAS BANKRUPT OF ANY IDEA! CORRUPTIONS, CRONYISM and ALL THE HIGH-HANDED ACTIONS OF LITTLE EMPERORS IN LOCAL COUNCILS HAVE HAD CONTRIBUTED TO THEIR DOWN FALL.
aLL THAT IS REQUIRED OF barisan raayat IS TO UNDO THOSE ISSUES PLUS HOW CAN THEY MAKE TOLLS A LESSER BURDEN to the average Malaysians. If they continue to increase as per so-called contract, THEN the 5 State Governments must plan to build ‘OUTLETS’ to allow diversion of traffic away from THESE TRAPS.
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 22.32
did you notice that the chinese and english versions of malaysiakini may be slightly different contents even for the same piece of news. one obvious tone was with the call of abdullah to step down by mahathir junior the other day. the chinese version mentioned specifically about call for stepping down, but not the english version. There are also slightly different tone about the coalition government.
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 23.39
I heard YB T Teng of Sg Pinang is not in the lists of DAP Exco summited to Tan Sri Khalid (Latest news in Merdeka Review). If this is true, I doubt the criteria for choosing Selangor Exco by DAP. Come on lah Uncle Lim, we have better candidate and we Selangor people need and reserve better talent then all those first time state ADUN. (Teresa, Aun Yong, Lau and Ronnie)
I thought u attack BN on matters pertaining to brain drain caused by BN’s policy. I think u talk cock only.
DAP is for those with close connection to both Lim fahter and son. shame to u.
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 26.04
Oh no…..I just spotted it…..is it gonna start again….it has been quite unbearable over the other site….
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 32.45
All 3 parties were only aware of the 4th Party, Barisan Rakyat 2 weeks into campaigning, which are the missing link that brought victory ot the Opposition, now the ruling Coalition.
Kit.
Now you know who we are, we are here all along, we just do not have names but we will be your checks & balances.
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 35.29
I don’t quite agree with Undergrad2 saying
” I can testify to the impeccable integrity of this man. When he said Anwar was dishonest, he was comparing the old Anwar to the Anwar who has been incarcerated for daring to oppose his mentor.”
for the simple reason that why did he joined PKR then. If what he (Chandra) says it’s true, then he is also a changed man different from what he was during his school days.
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 35.43
In Kit Siang’s latest blog entry, he says that DAP had no relation with PAS before 8/3, and that the voters’ choice has created a scenario that led to their co-operation.
However, this raises serious questions.
Why did DAP refuse to work with PAS before 8/3? If DAP leaders believed that PAS’s agenda of Islamic state and Islamisation was no longer a problem in this general election, why didn’t they form a coalition with PAS alongside PKR during the election campaign?
If their reservation about PAS’s agenda led to their refusal to co-operate with them before 8/3, do they seriously believe that this (i.e. PAS’s agenda of Islamic state, which led to DAP’s reservation in the first place) is no longer a problem after 5pm on 8/3?
If PAS’s agenda of Islamic state, which led to DAP’s refusal to co-operate with them before 5pm 8/3, remains the same before and after 5pm 8/3, DAP’s current co-operation with PAS will be rightly deemed as unprincipled:
Before 5pm, 8/3, DAP refused to work with PAS because of X; after 5pm, 8/3, DAP is willing to work with PAS DESPITE X.
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 36.50
Yes…that was clear mandate in the 2008GE.
The task now is to revive those DAP-PKR-PAS states esp Penang, Selangor, Perak which effectively are the ‘engineer-rooms’ of Malaysian economy. These states have all the potential to prosper but under the failed federal and BN state government, only a handful of the elites (UMNO-putras) have prospered.
Those minorities have been sidelined.
At the fedearl level, DAP-PKR-PAS should set up a Shadow Ministry to keep those Ministers accountable!!!!!
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 44.39
We can work with PKR and PAS. But we must not deviate from our principles of equality and freedom for all.
This is fundamental.
The purpose of being in the government is to realize this objective, not to compromise this principle!
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 45.08
The issue with PAS, DAP and PKR can be resolved if the cabinet will detach themselves from the parties, and make themselves just the coalition members.
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 46.38
YB LIM,
PLS THINK MANY MANY TIMES BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH.SAME TO YAB LIM G E.REMEMBER,YOU ALL ARE NO LONGER MR OPPOSITION,BUT PART OF THE STATES GOVERMENT IN PENANG,PERAK AND SELANGOR.DONT SCREW UP OUR HOPE BY PUTTING YOU GUYS TO WHERE IT IS NOW.IF YOU PEOPLE DONT BUCK UP,WE WILL SHIP DAP OUT IN NEXT GE.
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 47.17
Time moved into uncharted territory after the election night results. Now is time for DAP/PKR/PAS to develop a working partnership, adopt a new mindset to work together to improve the wellbeing of ALL MALAYSIANS. So stop barking and get serious and committed to working with PKR/PAS partners. You also have work fast to develop a new mindset as well.
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 51.33
Yes kit. Don’t feel appologetic for having coalition with PAS and PKR.
We vote for future Malaysia. Enything else except BN.
So there are neseccity for coalition.
PAS has change a lot. They convinced their supporter to vote for DAP. I think this should not be unilateral.
Husam mentioned that the party commited for new Malaysia and will accept whoever chosen by the Regent include DAP.
Yes you are the one who will creat new history for Malaysia!
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 53.22
DAP, PAS and PKR have, fortunately or unfortunately, been mandated by the people to form coalition governments in Perak and Selangor.
They have no choice but to work together amicably, effectively and there is no turning back.
Change is the message the voters have given to every party. UMNO, MCA, MIC and Gerakan have to change to ensure their future survival. DAP is no exception, more so now that it is in a governing position.
DAP can only stick fast to its party line if it is prepared to remain as an opposition party. But it has reached a point of no return.
DAP must now be seen to be able to work effectively above racial and religious line, and they must prove it to the people of all races.
PAS has announced that they will not implement Islamic Law in Kedah. Have not they changed?
If what Raja Petra writes about Teng Chang Khim refusing to wear Songkok is true, then it will spell further problem for DAP. If Khairy can be seen wearing a Chinese Dress during Chinese New Year festivals, why cant any Chinese be wearing a Songok?
If refusing to work with PAS and wear songkok can keep the votes of staunch DAP supporters, it will lose the votes of those who vote above racial and religious line and render DAP irrelevant much faster than what happened on 8/3.
DAP must move on fast, convince the voters that DAP can change to effect change for the better, otherwise the fortunate blessing of being voted in as a governing party can, unfortunately, turn out to be a nightmare of seeing itself disappearing quickly and permanently from the political arena as it cant cope with change, not by a major tsunami but a minor one.
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 56.17
TO lohsh,
According to NST online 14/3/08, PAS Kedah MB Azizan says that Islamic laws are still in their agenda though they will come into force later. Islamic dress codes will also be introduced later.
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Friday/National/2186524/Article/index_html
March 15th, 2008 at 21: 58.48
Uncle Lim
The tsunami was a shocker but a welcomed surprise. However as a Malaysian and I do believe most Malaysians want is for the non-BN states to do what has been missing since the BN nightmare began. Transparency, the people first and foremost. These 2 I believe are the most important virtues/guides by which any ruling government should abide. Because if the DAP, PKR, PAS do not deliver this time, then the next tsunami will come from the other side.
So its time to bury the hatchet and do what is right for the people.
I live in Canning so I will be observing all that will happen in the Silver state.
March 15th, 2008 at 22: 01.53
LKS’s recent statement has hurt so many of the voters who voted for the coalition.They feel betrayed as most of them were attracted by the barisan rakyat concept advocated by Raja Petra.I sincerly hope LKS will consider the feelings of these voters when speaking on sensitive issues and not just that of his hardcore supporters.Some of your hardcore supporters really stink with their outdated irrelevant idealogies.LKS must know its not possible to win election esp in malaysia just on the support of hardcore supporters.Please spare some thought for us too.Every DAP mps and assemblyman were voted in not just by DAP supporters but also by PKR and PAS supporters.please think and act wisely for the sake of all Malaysians.
March 15th, 2008 at 22: 03.09
Dear YB Lim
It’s high time we all Malaysians have to change our attitude towards making All Malaysian’s Malaysia a dream come true fr 8.3.2008 !
Keep up your good work and change your oppositional attitude in the future, think before you say, that might help to reduce tension in our present situation now.
March 15th, 2008 at 22: 07.06
Dear YB LKS… let’s hope the next few days will be the end to the “saga” surrounding the appointment of Perak MB.
As a Perakian, I am very happy to know that our dear Regent has got a baby boy.
This is also an opportunity fo the coalition to show undivided loyalty to the Sultan and Regent. Well… I really don’t know how, but just plan something nice, simple and meaningful together.
The Perak Royals had from time to time shown that they are always concerned with the welfare of rakyat by being thrifty and fair. From the days being the Lord President until now, HRH Sultan Azlan has won many hearts and so do Raja Nazrin. Please be of constant contact with the palace ….
It’s time also to dispel the myth on PAS being ultra Islamist in Perak or most Indians and Chinese will shit in their pant soon and we will see another political tsunami flowing the wrong way this time.
Prove that the new MB is not bias on his judgements and fair to other religion.
Prove that PAS is not all out to make non-Muslim to convert. This is our basic inner fear of PAS since childhood.
Prove that all decisions are collective. Else, it will be very very disastrous to the coalition’s political survival in Malaysia.
Also, always remember that we the common rakyat voted for you during time when you barely have any support and also grassroots. We ask not to be rewarded but only for the coalition to be extra sensitive to these areas. Go down to DAP voters in places like Ipoh, Sitiawan , Pasir Bedamar etc. They are your supporters when time is really bad and never fails to deliver support to you even when coarce with monetary pledge. We believe in the struggle for a check and balance. Even my aged mother knows that. My late father would have still voted for DAP if he is still around today.
Power greed should also be shooed away, else, you will only be in power for one term. Your greed will bring you DOWN. The practice and proposal of total transparency is a great step toward eradication of nepotism and corruption.
All rougue housing developers also will have to be scrutinised and removed as these are also source of miseries to rakyat that BN failed to combat using it’s Danaharta.
Illegal “lorry hantu” , especially in Selangor is destroying roads in so many parts of Selangor which adds to the question of the effectiveness of enforcements by the local government. There is really no point in repairing the potholes when you can’t plug the source of the problem. Now coalition have a chance to prove that you can curb their activities. Formulate a solution for these lorry hantu and confrontations can be avoided.
Take good care of yourself as this is a very hard time for you as well. Having so much of different responsibilities and under microscope is so…. hard.
Let’s hope the coalition is successfull and Malaysia will have a two party system in future and democracy aive.
Warm Regards,
Steven
March 15th, 2008 at 22: 07.14
If PAS can implement and enforce Islamic laws in Kedah, so be it then. This is the same situation as Kelantan. But voters in Penang, Perak and Selangor have not given them that mandate. As such DAP & Keadilan ought to coperate with PAS to ensure state administrations that are exemplary in terms of good governance, fairness and transparency.
March 15th, 2008 at 22: 08.33
LWY;
Once again, please don’t use Kit blog to distribute your MCA idea. Taking information from NST.
Shame on you LWY. This issue has been answer immediately by PAS. Please see Malaysia Today.
March 15th, 2008 at 22: 10.13
kslaw comments that Teng Chang Khim name was not on the list of exco members submitted to Tan Sri Khalid for Selangor exco. Teng has said on his blog that he is not asking for the post but will leave it up the the “wisdom” of the leadership. Please note that only Team Players are qualified for the posts.Your swear words have exposed your uncouth character. Teng Chang Khim will be thoroughly examined in the areas of cooperation with the other members of DAP, attendance of Selangor DAP meetings and CEC meetings, contribution of his DUN allowances to the National DAP,etc. before any decision will be made. It is considered bad taste to publicly say one is not interested in a post but to actively campaign by the backdoor by demonstrations and postings in various blogs.Another good test of character and loyalty to the party as opposed to selfish ambition will be the response of the unsuccessful candidates after the names of the Exco has been revealed. Meanwhile we wait for the “wisdom” of the leadership to manifest.
March 15th, 2008 at 22: 17.04
YB Kit Siang, the real crux of the matter is whether you want to form a coalition govt with PAS and PKR or RETURN THE PERAK GOVT to BN?
I’m sure if DAP decides it can’t work with PAS and pulls out, handing the state govt to BN, the political backlash throughout the country would be too dire to contemplate. In the next election, DAP may well be wiped out.
Frankly, extraordinary circumstances call for extraordinary measures. As others have pointed out, what is so wrong with a PAS MB? Can a PAS MB implement Islamize the state while DAP holds the majority in the EXCO? In fact, I believe a moderate PAS MB (and he has no choice but to be moderate) will augur well to overcome Chinese mistrust of PAS.
YB Lim, I cannot understand your concerns about a DAP-PKR-PAS coalition. You are still holding the old racial baggage from the past which allowed BN to divide and rule for so long.
I think you still fear political backlash from your Chinese voters from working with PAS. Your Chinese voters are well aware that DAP has no choice under the circumstances. Please give your supporters some credit, YB Lim. They are not the mindless chauvinists that you imagined. Please get rid of your misgivings and let us all move forward to a Brave New World.
March 15th, 2008 at 22: 18.34
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Friday/National/2186524/Article/index_html
YB…. how to work together with PAS….???
If one understand Islamic value, a “God” fearing PAS will implement full version of Islamic laws when they are in power gradually.
It seems to me that DAP is assisting PAS to fit their agenda together slowly but needly… in the name of “the will of their god”… i.e. PAS MB in Perak… in other words DAP part of the “evil”.
DAP is a tool for PAS… I hope YB see it clear enough.
March 15th, 2008 at 22: 20.03
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March 15th, 2008 at 22: 26.00
Well Mr. Lim as you have agreed, this is a new political era. I think squables do happen in and around any kind of fellowship formed. We do encounter it even in our own family. Be it under the federal goverment (as in Perlis & Terengganu) or the new state goverments in Perak and Selangor, problems do arise. Hence, we must remind Malaysia that is not easy to be where we are now….from Malaya to Malaysia. So, do not demonstrate unnecessarily…let the goverment some time to pledge its promises and then we shall judge from there. Once again, the people’s power can prove that we can support/reject the govt who brings successes/fails us.
March 15th, 2008 at 22: 27.17
Yes, saudara Lim n all concerned, i fully agree with Saint, please have closed door discussions, negotiations first, then only proceed to have your press conference and so forth. Please do not jump the gun, you are now in different status, no longer the former Mr Opposition! All the best .
March 15th, 2008 at 22: 27.33
I think DAP supporter should take the first hand information. Taking information from NST or star make you stupidest in the world. That’s why no PAS member going for demonstration at Komtar even though UTUSAN and BH a few days published on NEP.
Once again, the nice of BR is respecting each other. Are you notice it?
March 15th, 2008 at 22: 29.17
Mr Lim,
I feel Raja Nazrin used his wisdom to select the PAS candidate.
I believehe did so with good reasons and motives. With Pas as MB with not much support in terms of no of ADUN his action is always checked by both DAP and PKR. Thus he would not dare indulge in excessive spending or abuse of power. Yes, I believe HRH is wise in his choice. To have good check and balance
March 15th, 2008 at 22: 30.51
QUOTE : “The mixed reactions could be divided into the following categories:
• Support;
• Conditional support with concerns about Islamisation undermining the constitutional rights of Malaysians;
• Outright opposition, regarding the DAP-PKR-PAS coalition government with a PAS MB as a betrayal of the DAP’s general election mandat