Comments on: No DAP CEC mandate for PAS Menteri Besar in Perak http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:45:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: T H I N K » Archive » The Politics of Promise http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-21/#comment-132048 T H I N K » Archive » The Politics of Promise Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:49:50 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-132048 [...] be someone of Malay-Muslim descent. The decision initially prompted DAP president Lim Kit Siang to order DAP’s 18 assemblymen to boycott the swearing in ceremony (a move he later [...] [...] be someone of Malay-Muslim descent. The decision initially prompted DAP president Lim Kit Siang to order DAP’s 18 assemblymen to boycott the swearing in ceremony (a move he later [...]

]]> By: terharu malay dictionary http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-21/#comment-108153 terharu malay dictionary Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:24:49 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-108153 [...] by a Malay, since Perak is still a malay majority seat. We are not a country which has totally ...http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/ejoe.net - View topic - hepi besday ejoe &amp fkr!!!... sikit..sebab tu fkr belanja..terharu kot [...] [...] by a Malay, since Perak is still a malay majority seat. We are not a country which has totally …http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/ejoe.net – View topic – hepi besday ejoe &amp fkr!!!… sikit..sebab tu fkr belanja..terharu kot [...]

]]> By: edwin http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-21/#comment-99932 edwin Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:34:03 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-99932 yb,selayang area punya bandaraya hari ni i punya kereta park tepi jalan kena tarik ,asal lagi mau bayar tiga ratus,i parking tak sampai satu jam sudah kena tarik,tepi jalan pun takda sigborad tulis zon tarik.i parking tepi jalan ,saman tulis parking atas batu jalan .kereta banyak parking tak cukup ini bukan salah kita.lagi pun pergi bayar serupa hutang dia orang satu juta.bandaraya punya staff semua duduk kat office gurau saja,kita bayar incometax lagi mau tenggok muka dia orang.jalan rosak pun tak pergi repair,tulis saman dan tarik kereta pandai lah.lepas tarik dan tulis saman minum teh tunggu balik,sebenaya staff mesti nak pergi ronda mana jalan nak repair kan.semua tunggu gaji buta.pengawai punya kerja time baru lima jam.lagi pun bandarya office ada orang kata boleh settel $250,rasuah kuat,bpr ada pun serupa takda.TQ yb,selayang area punya bandaraya hari ni i punya kereta park tepi jalan kena tarik ,asal lagi mau bayar tiga ratus,i parking tak sampai satu jam sudah kena tarik,tepi jalan pun takda sigborad tulis zon tarik.i parking tepi jalan ,saman tulis parking atas batu jalan .kereta banyak parking tak cukup ini bukan salah kita.lagi pun pergi bayar serupa hutang dia orang satu juta.bandaraya punya staff semua duduk kat office gurau saja,kita bayar incometax lagi mau tenggok muka dia orang.jalan rosak pun tak pergi repair,tulis saman dan tarik kereta pandai lah.lepas tarik dan tulis saman minum teh tunggu balik,sebenaya staff mesti nak pergi ronda mana jalan nak repair kan.semua tunggu gaji buta.pengawai punya kerja time baru lima jam.lagi pun bandarya office ada orang kata boleh settel $250,rasuah kuat,bpr ada pun serupa takda.TQ

]]> By: Polemik MB Perak: Selesaikan Cara Rasional, Bukan Emosional « Dengan Izin…™ http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-21/#comment-97121 Polemik MB Perak: Selesaikan Cara Rasional, Bukan Emosional « Dengan Izin…™ Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:10:32 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-97121 [...] sedikit menyedihkan apabila Penasihat DAP, YB Lim Kit Siang menyatakan ketidaksetujuan beliau ke atas perlantikan tersebut dan menyatakan bahawa tidak akan ada sebarang wakil DAP untuk hadir ke [...] [...] sedikit menyedihkan apabila Penasihat DAP, YB Lim Kit Siang menyatakan ketidaksetujuan beliau ke atas perlantikan tersebut dan menyatakan bahawa tidak akan ada sebarang wakil DAP untuk hadir ke [...]

]]> By: 50 election articles you should read http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-21/#comment-92433 50 election articles you should read Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:39:05 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-92433 [...] No DAP CEC mandate for PAS Menteri Besar in Perak - (Read the comments) [...] [...] No DAP CEC mandate for PAS Menteri Besar in Perak – (Read the comments) [...]

]]> By: Sultans, Politics and MBs - Another Giant Kayu Balak in UMNO’s Eye « BUUUUURRRRNING HOT http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-21/#comment-92303 Sultans, Politics and MBs - Another Giant Kayu Balak in UMNO’s Eye « BUUUUURRRRNING HOT Mon, 24 Mar 2008 03:12:15 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-92303 [...] Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin, as is the Sultan’s right, and DAP’s mentor Lim Kit Siang got riled up about it on his blog, threatening that DAP’s assemblymen would boycott the swearing in [...] [...] Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin, as is the Sultan’s right, and DAP’s mentor Lim Kit Siang got riled up about it on his blog, threatening that DAP’s assemblymen would boycott the swearing in [...]

]]> By: Malaysian Politics » Blog Archive » Tetap sokong Idris — 23 ADUN buat pengakuan dalam pertemuan dengan PM http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-21/#comment-92240 Malaysian Politics » Blog Archive » Tetap sokong Idris — 23 ADUN buat pengakuan dalam pertemuan dengan PM Sun, 23 Mar 2008 22:27:00 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-92240 [...] this what posted by Lim Kit Siang in his blog? DAP is prepared to accept DAP chairman and Assemblyman for Sitiawan Ngeh Koo Ham or PKR Behrang [...] [...] this what posted by Lim Kit Siang in his blog? DAP is prepared to accept DAP chairman and Assemblyman for Sitiawan Ngeh Koo Ham or PKR Behrang [...]

]]> By: Malaysian Politics » Blog Archive » UMNO biadab — Arahan pulau majlis pelantikan MB Terengganu dianggap hina raja Melayu http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-21/#comment-91902 Malaysian Politics » Blog Archive » UMNO biadab — Arahan pulau majlis pelantikan MB Terengganu dianggap hina raja Melayu Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:44 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-91902 [...] is an action of Biadap and menghina Raja Melayu. See what Hishamuddin said when Lim it Siang posted this. “DAP secara terang tidak bertanggungjawab dan tidak menghormati kedudukan kesultanan [...] [...] is an action of Biadap and menghina Raja Melayu. See what Hishamuddin said when Lim it Siang posted this. “DAP secara terang tidak bertanggungjawab dan tidak menghormati kedudukan kesultanan [...]

]]> By: confucious http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-21/#comment-89578 confucious Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:31:39 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-89578 what Uncle LKS provoke to ADUN DAP to 'pulau' the ceremony are a good idea to me. Although it can make a little bit 'huhahuha' everywhere but that decision is actually opening the people's mind. the DAP supporters, are ready to know even closer to what happening in the istana and how much power that the SULTAN has. Let dont use the word 'power' instead we can use 'the rights to make a decision for good purpose of nation'. done. And, most important, soon, when BARISAN RAKYAT won 2/3 of the next election, this PERAK MB story are strongly remembered by all the rakyat. And, we can move this nation truly with our heart and avoiding the bad politician that can carries 'corruption' , 'chronisme' , 'nepotisme' , 'economic unstabilization'. Please, BARISAN RAKYAT, Work together... what Uncle LKS provoke to ADUN DAP to ‘pulau’ the ceremony are a good idea to me. Although it can make a little bit ‘huhahuha’ everywhere but that decision is actually opening the people’s mind.

the DAP supporters, are ready to know even closer to what happening in the istana and how much power that the SULTAN has. Let dont use the word ‘power’ instead we can use ‘the rights to make a decision for good purpose of nation’. done.

And, most important, soon, when BARISAN RAKYAT won 2/3 of the next election, this PERAK MB story are strongly remembered by all the rakyat. And, we can move this nation truly with our heart and avoiding the bad politician that can carries ‘corruption’ , ‘chronisme’ , ‘nepotisme’ , ‘economic unstabilization’. Please, BARISAN RAKYAT, Work together…

]]> By: azzuri http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-21/#comment-89430 azzuri Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:12:56 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-89430 to malaysiabaru2008, i do support and agree with your comment on march 13th.the statement by LKS shouldn't happen again.we don't want the tragedy of may 13th overwhelming our country again.i'm willing to do and sacrifice anything as our SULTAN the first priority!!! to malaysiabaru2008, i do support and agree with your comment on march 13th.the statement by LKS shouldn’t happen again.we don’t want the tragedy of may 13th overwhelming our country again.i’m willing to do and sacrifice anything as our SULTAN the first priority!!!

]]> By: Loh http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-20/#comment-88709 Loh Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:29:53 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-88709 LKS threat for not attending the swearing in ceremony might appear to some as showing disrespect to the royalty of Perak for which LKS has already apologised to the Sultan and the regent of Peak. LKS clarified that it was not his intension to show disrespect, and he certainly could not stop people having that perception and hence he apologised for creating such perception. We should have no doubt that the Sultan and the Regent of Perak would not hold that against LKS. There were suggestions that LKS should have kept this an internal affair within DAP and accept the fait accompli after the Sultan had agreed to the appointment of the MB, and that to the outside world, all is well. The method of sweeping things under the carpet has its merit, especially when the Barisan Rakyat is breaking into a new venture, and it needed to have a smooth start. After the DAP decided to attend the ceremony, PKR considered it necessary to review the arrangements. That again gave BN a chance to clam that the opposition would not be able to work together. Now that the three parties have come together with a new formula, it would mean that the agreement will better meet the interest of all parties; so the dust kicked up by LKS might have been worth the trouble. But the episode shows that coalition government is more difficult to be established, and that they show that responsibility-sharing is truly happening. LKS threat for not attending the swearing in ceremony might appear to some as showing disrespect to the royalty of Perak for which LKS has already apologised to the Sultan and the regent of Peak. LKS clarified that it was not his intension to show disrespect, and he certainly could not stop people having that perception and hence he apologised for creating such perception. We should have no doubt that the Sultan and the Regent of Perak would not hold that against LKS.

There were suggestions that LKS should have kept this an internal affair within DAP and accept the fait accompli after the Sultan had agreed to the appointment of the MB, and that to the outside world, all is well. The method of sweeping things under the carpet has its merit, especially when the Barisan Rakyat is breaking into a new venture, and it needed to have a smooth start.

After the DAP decided to attend the ceremony, PKR considered it necessary to review the arrangements. That again gave BN a chance to clam that the opposition would not be able to work together.

Now that the three parties have come together with a new formula, it would mean that the agreement will better meet the interest of all parties; so the dust kicked up by LKS might have been worth the trouble. But the episode shows that coalition government is more difficult to be established, and that they show that responsibility-sharing is truly happening.

]]> By: manature http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-20/#comment-88410 manature Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:41:51 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-88410 May I offer a suggestion to break impasse in Perak? Would it be a good idea for DAP in national interest and also in the interest of <a href="http://pray-for-malaysia.blogspot.com/2008/02/haris-ibrahim-at-ss2-petaling-jaya.html" rel="nofollow">"Barisan Harapan Rakyat"</a> to come to a compromise. Update: I do multi-tasking and while waiting for this to open (long time) I do other stuff and I saw that a compromise had been reached so my suggestion is now no longer relevant. May I humbly suggest someone from DAP, PKR or PAS have a look at <a href="http://pray-for-malaysia.blogspot.com/2008/03/open-letter-to-dap-pkr-pas-plus.html" rel="nofollow">Open letter to DAP, PKR and PAS</a>. I know you guys know more about politics and governing a country, but still..... Reluctant "protest" blogger <a href="http://pray-for-malaysia.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Blog for Positive Changes for Malaysia and the world</a> <a href="http://digitalcandlelightvigil.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Digital Candlelight Vigil</a> May I offer a suggestion to break impasse in Perak? Would it be a good idea for DAP in national interest and also in the interest of “Barisan Harapan Rakyat” to come to a compromise.

Update: I do multi-tasking and while waiting for this to open (long time) I do other stuff and I saw that a compromise had been reached so my suggestion is now no longer relevant.

May I humbly suggest someone from DAP, PKR or PAS have a look at Open letter to DAP, PKR and PAS. I know you guys know more about politics and governing a country, but still…..

Reluctant “protest” blogger
Blog for Positive Changes for Malaysia and the world
Digital Candlelight Vigil

]]> By: atlk http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-20/#comment-88175 atlk Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:19:18 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-88175 let's help uncle kit break the 1OOO comments barrier for this entry !!! keep the comments growing !! hehe... let’s help uncle kit break the 1OOO comments barrier for this entry !!!

keep the comments growing !! hehe…

]]> By: TanWW http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-20/#comment-88147 TanWW Fri, 14 Mar 2008 03:39:53 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-88147 Hi LKS, DAP's YBs & Pro-Chinese fellow, U guy had receieved an unexpected mandate from the people of nation wide, this is the single chance of thousand years for u guy to form a coalition roling covernment. My advice is, pls reduce drasticly DAP's Chinamanship in order to get real @ genuine support and trust from the Malay comunity. Do not ever fall into the rasist and religion trap that UMNO awaiting for, any single mistake or over react from u guy especially the Chinese Tauke in DAP will cause politic disaster. Also, sadly to see that DAP isn't show the quality as PKR during the state transformation like PKR in Penang and Selangor. If, really PKR behavour like u guys (DAP), LGY may not so easy to be the CM of Penang in short time. Here we see the "OPEN MIND and HEART" of Anwar Ibrahim and other PKR even PAS leaders, but not DAP's. Be extra careful of your Chinamanship! Never ever let even a Malay supporter feel negrect to "VOTE FOR CHANGE", Never ever let Malay thought that the Malay has loose their power, it should be "BN" lost, Never ever let the less (Chinese @ Indian) feel unsecure under DAP @ coalition ruling covernment. 8 State EXCOs for DAP (non of them was Malay) is too much! Pls think wisely.... Now isn't the time for you guy to SHOW OFF! I'm a Chinese and will be watching u guy tightly, if need I will not hesitate to go against DAP. Hi LKS, DAP’s YBs & Pro-Chinese fellow,

U guy had receieved an unexpected mandate from the people of nation wide, this is the single chance of thousand years for u guy to form a coalition roling covernment.

My advice is, pls reduce drasticly DAP’s Chinamanship in order to get real @ genuine support and trust from the Malay comunity.

Do not ever fall into the rasist and religion trap that UMNO awaiting for, any single mistake or over react from u guy especially the Chinese Tauke in DAP will cause politic disaster.

Also, sadly to see that DAP isn’t show the quality as PKR during the state transformation like PKR in Penang and Selangor.

If, really PKR behavour like u guys (DAP), LGY may not so easy to be the CM of Penang in short time. Here we see the “OPEN MIND and HEART” of Anwar Ibrahim and other PKR even PAS leaders, but not DAP’s.

Be extra careful of your Chinamanship!
Never ever let even a Malay supporter feel negrect to “VOTE FOR CHANGE”,
Never ever let Malay thought that the Malay has loose their power, it should be “BN” lost,
Never ever let the less (Chinese @ Indian) feel unsecure under DAP @ coalition ruling covernment.

8 State EXCOs for DAP (non of them was Malay) is too much! Pls think wisely….

Now isn’t the time for you guy to SHOW OFF!

I’m a Chinese and will be watching u guy tightly, if need I will not hesitate to go against DAP.

]]> By: saye http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-20/#comment-88129 saye Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:48:31 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-88129 u already prove us that u only want the POWER! same as bn, pas, adil & YOU!. u already prove us that u only want the POWER!

same as bn, pas, adil & YOU!.

]]> By: tkyong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-20/#comment-87965 tkyong Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:03:37 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-87965 one more, as a good leader must accept people advice...i think your son is do better than u now...our chinese say huo dao lao xue dao lao...n...xue wu zhi jing, da zhe wei xian. pls try to learn from your son. one more, as a good leader must accept people advice…i think your son is do better than u now…our chinese say huo dao lao xue dao lao…n…xue wu zhi jing, da zhe wei xian. pls try to learn from your son.

]]> By: tkyong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-20/#comment-87950 tkyong Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:38:20 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-87950 uncle lim...mi again...nice to hear u did this right mention...this morning. i know your difficuly to accept PAS on this situation and worry lose our(chinese) support on next election. but pls think twice and collect popular opinion first before do any important announcement . pls...pls...pls dont do it again..u are chinese reprensentative on this 20 year. we hope that our reprensentative is a intelligence, accomplishment, embrace and make us automatically show our respect people. lastly, i want to said REN MING LI LIANG WAN SUI..WAN SUI.. WAN WAN SUI uncle lim…mi again…nice to hear u did this right mention…this morning. i know your difficuly to accept PAS on this situation and worry lose our(chinese) support on next election. but pls think twice and collect popular opinion first before do any important announcement . pls…pls…pls dont do it again..u are chinese reprensentative on this 20 year. we hope that our reprensentative is a intelligence, accomplishment, embrace and make us automatically show our respect people.

lastly, i want to said

REN MING LI LIANG WAN SUI..WAN SUI.. WAN WAN SUI

]]> By: PASFORALL http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-20/#comment-87881 PASFORALL Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:53:20 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-87881 Salam Sejahtera buat Mr Lim, Mohon kemaafan kerana menggunakan bahasa kebangsaan yang mana bahasa in jugak yang Mr Lim gunakan di Parlimen. Pertamanya saya sedikit terkedu berhubung kenyataan bertulis Mr Lim ini. Untuk pengetahuan Mr Lim saya adalah salah seorang ahli biasa Pas yang berdaftar dan pernah bertugas menjaga Puan Zaiton yang bertanding di Selayang pada tahun 1999 atas tiket DAP. Sepanjang masa bertugas saya bukan sahaja menjaga beliau tetapi turut menjaga parti yang diwakilinya dalam pakatan BA. Semasa itu Mr Lim kami jaga umpama menjaga presiden kami sekiranya ada yang berniat jahat kamilah yang akan kehadapan. Jalinan kami dengan petugas dan penyokong DAP amat baik dan kami semua mengharapkan agar jalinan tersebut akan berterusan. Tetapi sayang selepas kekalahan besar DAP dalam pilihanraya 1999 kepimpinan Mr Lim telah bertindak untuk keluar dari gabungan BA dan dengan marah mengatakan PAS adalah puncanya. Kami tetap bersabar dan terus menjelaskan kepada ahli-ahli yang ini hanyalah bersifat sementara kerana bagi kami ini adalah masalah antara kepimpinan atasan dan kami petugas serta penyokong dibawah senantiasa bersangka-baik sehingga sekarang. Tidak terlintas difikiran kami untuk terus memboikot DAP walaupun cemuhan demi cemuhan, tomahan demi tomahan dilemparkan kepada kami oleh pihak Mr Lim bagi kami agenda kita adalah menjatuhkan BN yang selama ini menyusahkan rakyat. Walaupun kadang-kadang cemuhan dan kata-kata pihak Mr Lim menghentam Islam tetapi kami masih bersabar sampaikan saya terpikir sampai bilakah kami perlu bersabar je. Saya secara peribadi menghormati pemimpin-pemimpin DAP dan juga pemimpin BA yang lain. Kesempatan berjumpa di Parlimen saya akan cuba menegur bertanya khabar walaupun sesekali macam dipandang sebelah mata oleh pihak Mr Lim bagi saya, saya masih mengharapkan penyatuan antara kita. Saya kadang-kadang tertanya kenapa pihak Mr Lim marah sangat dengan PAS? Apakah silap kami? Adakah kerana dakwah kami kepada masyarakat Islam satu kesalahan yang merugikan DAP? Ataupun kerana hukum hudud yang PAS war-warkan? Sekiranya hukum hudud dijadikan sebab saya rasa Mr Lim sebagai seorang insan yang bijak dan hebat apabila berhujah diparlimen (walaupun suka menjerit-jerit) gagal sebagai seorang pimpinan dalam menjelaskan isu ini kepada orang-orang Mr Lim. Ini kerana hukum hudud ini hanya dilaksanakan kepada mereka yang beragama Islam itupun sekiranya mereka didapati bersalah sekiranya tidak bersalah mereka tidak perlu takut. Bagi yang bukan beragama Islam agama kami mengkehendaki kami memelihara agama yang bukan Islam dan kami tidak boleh mengkhianati sesiapa pun termasuklah dari kalangan yang bukan beragama Islam. Saya percaya sekiranya pihak Mr Lim dapat menterjemahkan perkara ini ke peringkat akar umbi nescaya salah faham pihak Mr Lim berhubung hukum hudud akan terurai. Sekiranya ada sebab-sebab lain yang membuat kemarahan pihak Mr Lim kepada PAS saya rasa sebagai ahli biasa perkara ini boleh dibincangkan diperingkat atasan secara muhibah termasuklah perkara yang Mr Lim luahkan ini. Sebagai orang yang bijak berpolitik Mr Lim tidak patut meluahkan ketidakpuasanhati secara umum. Pakatan BA walaupun belum rasminya digabungankan mempunyai Majlis-majlis Presiden atau Majlis Tertinggi yang membolehkan Mr Lim meluahkan pendapat Mr Lim. Tidak elok perkara ini diperpanjangkan secara umum dalam situasi kita mencapai kemenangan yang agak besar. Perihal perlantikan MB Perak saya ahli biasa yang belajar setakat SPM ada bertanya kepada sahabat-sahabat yang pernah bekerja di SUK. Memang termaktub dalam enekmen perlembagaan kerajaan negeri hanya bangsa melayu yang beragama Islam sahaja yang boleh memegang jawatan tersebut ataupun atas budibicara Al Sultan. Untuk pengetahuan enekmen ini bukan pihak PAS yang reka. Dalam hal ini Al Sultan telah meminta parti-parti gabungan BA untuk menyakinkan pihak istana berhubung gabungan ini memandangkan DAP mempunyai kerusi yang lebih tetapi Al Sultan perlukan kata kesepakatan dari gabungan BA untuk lantikan jawatan MB ini kerana secara automatik calon dari DAP tidak memenuhi kriteria awal jawatan tersebut. Oleh itu gabungan BA Perak telah bersepakat pada awalnya untuk menghantar nama-nama calon untuk diangkat sebagai MB dan ini merupakan penghormatan kepada Al Sultan memilih calon untuk jawatan MB yang selama ini tidak pernah berlaku semasa era pemerintahan BN Al Sultan sekadar dijadikan cop mohor sahaja. Kepimpinan PAS menghormati DAP yang mempunyai lebih kerusi tetapi atas titah dari Al Sultan yang meminta nama calon-calon MB maka pihak PAS terpaksa akur. Akhirnya atas kuasa Al Sultan telah memilih calon dari PAS sebagai MB. Disini dimanakan silap PAS yang membuat Mr Lim mengeluarkan kenyataan sedemikian kepada umum? Saya memohon janganlah ada perbalahan diantara kita perlu diingat pengundi-pengundi sedia untuk menghukum seperti mana berlaku pada BN. Cukuplah pengalaman suka dan duka yang kita lalui bersama. Bijak berpolitik bukan sahaja pandai bercakap tetapi bijak juga berstategik. Dalam peperangan pihak musuh akan menyerang apabila barisan hadapan lalai, longgar dan bertelagah. Banyak lagi yang saya ingin berkongsi bersama Mr Lim tapi cukuplah setakat ini dulu. Cuma satu sahaja pesanan saya jangan disuatu hari nanti saya dan rakan-rakan rasa benci melihat bendera DAP lebih dari BN. Mohon kemaafan dan harap apabila berjumpa di Parlimen nanti kita akan bertegur. Jangan marah ini satu pendapat dan pandangan. Salam Sejahtera buat Mr Lim,
Mohon kemaafan kerana menggunakan bahasa kebangsaan yang mana bahasa in jugak yang Mr Lim gunakan di Parlimen. Pertamanya saya sedikit terkedu berhubung kenyataan bertulis Mr Lim ini. Untuk pengetahuan Mr Lim saya adalah salah seorang ahli biasa Pas yang berdaftar dan pernah bertugas menjaga Puan Zaiton yang bertanding di Selayang pada tahun 1999 atas tiket DAP. Sepanjang masa bertugas saya bukan sahaja menjaga beliau tetapi turut menjaga parti yang diwakilinya dalam pakatan BA. Semasa itu Mr Lim kami jaga umpama menjaga presiden kami sekiranya ada yang berniat jahat kamilah yang akan kehadapan. Jalinan kami dengan petugas dan penyokong DAP amat baik dan kami semua mengharapkan agar jalinan tersebut akan berterusan. Tetapi sayang selepas kekalahan besar DAP dalam pilihanraya 1999 kepimpinan Mr Lim telah bertindak untuk keluar dari gabungan BA dan dengan marah mengatakan PAS adalah puncanya. Kami tetap bersabar dan terus menjelaskan kepada ahli-ahli yang ini hanyalah bersifat sementara kerana bagi kami ini adalah masalah antara kepimpinan atasan dan kami petugas serta penyokong dibawah senantiasa bersangka-baik sehingga sekarang. Tidak terlintas difikiran kami untuk terus memboikot DAP walaupun cemuhan demi cemuhan, tomahan demi tomahan dilemparkan kepada kami oleh pihak Mr Lim bagi kami agenda kita adalah menjatuhkan BN yang selama ini menyusahkan rakyat. Walaupun kadang-kadang cemuhan dan kata-kata pihak Mr Lim menghentam Islam tetapi kami masih bersabar sampaikan saya terpikir sampai bilakah kami perlu bersabar je. Saya secara peribadi menghormati pemimpin-pemimpin DAP dan juga pemimpin BA yang lain. Kesempatan berjumpa di Parlimen saya akan cuba menegur bertanya khabar walaupun sesekali macam dipandang sebelah mata oleh pihak Mr Lim bagi saya, saya masih mengharapkan penyatuan antara kita. Saya kadang-kadang tertanya kenapa pihak Mr Lim marah sangat dengan PAS? Apakah silap kami? Adakah kerana dakwah kami kepada masyarakat Islam satu kesalahan yang merugikan DAP? Ataupun kerana hukum hudud yang PAS war-warkan? Sekiranya hukum hudud dijadikan sebab saya rasa Mr Lim sebagai seorang insan yang bijak dan hebat apabila berhujah diparlimen (walaupun suka menjerit-jerit) gagal sebagai seorang pimpinan dalam menjelaskan isu ini kepada orang-orang Mr Lim. Ini kerana hukum hudud ini hanya dilaksanakan kepada mereka yang beragama Islam itupun sekiranya mereka didapati bersalah sekiranya tidak bersalah mereka tidak perlu takut. Bagi yang bukan beragama Islam agama kami mengkehendaki kami memelihara agama yang bukan Islam dan kami tidak boleh mengkhianati sesiapa pun termasuklah dari kalangan yang bukan beragama Islam. Saya percaya sekiranya pihak Mr Lim dapat menterjemahkan perkara ini ke peringkat akar umbi nescaya salah faham pihak Mr Lim berhubung hukum hudud akan terurai. Sekiranya ada sebab-sebab lain yang membuat kemarahan pihak Mr Lim kepada PAS saya rasa sebagai ahli biasa perkara ini boleh dibincangkan diperingkat atasan secara muhibah termasuklah perkara yang Mr Lim luahkan ini. Sebagai orang yang bijak berpolitik Mr Lim tidak patut meluahkan ketidakpuasanhati secara umum. Pakatan BA walaupun belum rasminya digabungankan mempunyai Majlis-majlis Presiden atau Majlis Tertinggi yang membolehkan Mr Lim meluahkan pendapat Mr Lim. Tidak elok perkara ini diperpanjangkan secara umum dalam situasi kita mencapai kemenangan yang agak besar. Perihal perlantikan MB Perak saya ahli biasa yang belajar setakat SPM ada bertanya kepada sahabat-sahabat yang pernah bekerja di SUK. Memang termaktub dalam enekmen perlembagaan kerajaan negeri hanya bangsa melayu yang beragama Islam sahaja yang boleh memegang jawatan tersebut ataupun atas budibicara Al Sultan. Untuk pengetahuan enekmen ini bukan pihak PAS yang reka. Dalam hal ini Al Sultan telah meminta parti-parti gabungan BA untuk menyakinkan pihak istana berhubung gabungan ini memandangkan DAP mempunyai kerusi yang lebih tetapi Al Sultan perlukan kata kesepakatan dari gabungan BA untuk lantikan jawatan MB ini kerana secara automatik calon dari DAP tidak memenuhi kriteria awal jawatan tersebut. Oleh itu gabungan BA Perak telah bersepakat pada awalnya untuk menghantar nama-nama calon untuk diangkat sebagai MB dan ini merupakan penghormatan kepada Al Sultan memilih calon untuk jawatan MB yang selama ini tidak pernah berlaku semasa era pemerintahan BN Al Sultan sekadar dijadikan cop mohor sahaja. Kepimpinan PAS menghormati DAP yang mempunyai lebih kerusi tetapi atas titah dari Al Sultan yang meminta nama calon-calon MB maka pihak PAS terpaksa akur. Akhirnya atas kuasa Al Sultan telah memilih calon dari PAS sebagai MB. Disini dimanakan silap PAS yang membuat Mr Lim mengeluarkan kenyataan sedemikian kepada umum? Saya memohon janganlah ada perbalahan diantara kita perlu diingat pengundi-pengundi sedia untuk menghukum seperti mana berlaku pada BN. Cukuplah pengalaman suka dan duka yang kita lalui bersama. Bijak berpolitik bukan sahaja pandai bercakap tetapi bijak juga berstategik. Dalam peperangan pihak musuh akan menyerang apabila barisan hadapan lalai, longgar dan bertelagah. Banyak lagi yang saya ingin berkongsi bersama Mr Lim tapi cukuplah setakat ini dulu. Cuma satu sahaja pesanan saya jangan disuatu hari nanti saya dan rakan-rakan rasa benci melihat bendera DAP lebih dari BN. Mohon kemaafan dan harap apabila berjumpa di Parlimen nanti kita akan bertegur. Jangan marah ini satu pendapat dan pandangan.

]]> By: malaysiabaru2008 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-20/#comment-87778 malaysiabaru2008 Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:17:49 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-87778 Dear Uncle Lim and the rest of bloggers here, Though LKS have withdraw his ealier statement but it will not makes us (pkr & pas) forget the basis of your ealier decision. I've read quite substantial numbers of chinese here still feel that DAP is chinese parties. That's the reason y go against Sultan like the Sultan is just another umno partner! Lucky you guys that umno is too afraid to over re-act on all of this statement. But if i have your details i will personally ensure i will press charges of treason to you for issuing statement offending our Sultan. Frankly my fellow chinese, if you think you can and will change malaysia to become like singapore then seriously be remembered of 13th May. What happened then? We the malays are occay with good governance and respeciting and serving all races needs. Malays comprise of 51% of Perak populations. So who the H...l r u questioning the sultan right and even if Sultan is occay you should consider people at large the majority malays sentiment in Perak and all over malaysia! For thoose who still support LKS ealier decision and decided you now forgo that statement just for immediate needs. It means that you are not sincere. That you will not uphold the constituency and the malays privileage. Even we the PKR n PAS already said that we will not marginalised the chinese n indian and so others as our main ingredient in our manifesto but for u guys this is not enough. U still want DAP to rule as DAP not as coalation government that will uphold the constituency with the Sultan be on top of it. Then please, either go to Singapore or go back to mainland China, hong kong, taiwan but please get out from this beloved Malaysia. We don't need you here. Same goes to LKS! I used to respect with u and your son. I was there during guan eng release from the prision in Kajang. My tears drop when i saw PAS supporters carry DAP flag and DAP supporter carry PAS flag! I thought you have change! It seems like you want to be like Lee Kuan Yew and turn Malaysia to be like Singapore. Please stop dreaming! remember because of 13th may the english dictionary used and adapt the word "amok" to refer to the specific behaviour that is really wild and that's only have in deep of all the Malays heart that for the past years the malays learn to let it dumped in the bottom of our heart and we try not to think about it hoping that our new brothers and sisters from other races already take us as the same family! But remember, the words and the spirit is still there! Ask for it, and call for it! it will come and i don't mind to die to protect the Sultan and i knew most of the malays is the same with me. LKS if you really sincere, please first issue a lengthy statement to apologize not just one paragrah statement! 2nd Call for emergency meeting for All coalition (PAS,DAP & PKR) to form a joint committee to stream line all press release to reflect the pact opinion. 3rd Issue a guideline to all members (DAP,PAS & PKR) in issuing personal statement that will have an impact to races & religion issues. If you need to bang, bang in the meeting not outside. You may want to get DSAI to lead this initiative. But if this is not happening in the coming month, then you will loose forever the history that you just did. I will personally join gerakan and launch all out attack to make DAP not relevant at all. Because, though i'm malay, i won't use racial issues to win mileage. So hope you make the right decision. Remember, becarefull of what you wish to!!! Tq P/s: to PKR DSAI & PAS, if DAP is not sincere let's call Pak Lah to pass the PM post to DSAI and nego with other BN component and few credible umno to join us and leave DAP to join the revamp BA government. Though i still hope uncle lim take my advise. Thanks www.tvanda.com Dear Uncle Lim and the rest of bloggers here,

Though LKS have withdraw his ealier statement but it will not makes us (pkr & pas) forget the basis of your ealier decision. I’ve read quite substantial numbers of chinese here still feel that DAP is chinese parties. That’s the reason y go against Sultan like the Sultan is just another umno partner! Lucky you guys that umno is too afraid to over re-act on all of this statement. But if i have your details i will personally ensure i will press charges of treason to you for issuing statement offending our Sultan. Frankly my fellow chinese, if you think you can and will change malaysia to become like singapore then seriously be remembered of 13th May. What happened then? We the malays are occay with good governance and respeciting and serving all races needs. Malays comprise of 51% of Perak populations. So who the H…l r u questioning the sultan right and even if Sultan is occay you should consider people at large the majority malays sentiment in Perak and all over malaysia! For thoose who still support LKS ealier decision and decided you now forgo that statement just for immediate needs. It means that you are not sincere. That you will not uphold the constituency and the malays privileage. Even we the PKR n PAS already said that we will not marginalised the chinese n indian and so others as our main ingredient in our manifesto but for u guys this is not enough. U still want DAP to rule as DAP not as coalation government that will uphold the constituency with the Sultan be on top of it. Then please, either go to Singapore or go back to mainland China, hong kong, taiwan but please get out from this beloved Malaysia. We don’t need you here. Same goes to LKS! I used to respect with u and your son. I was there during guan eng release from the prision in Kajang. My tears drop when i saw PAS supporters carry DAP flag and DAP supporter carry PAS flag! I thought you have change! It seems like you want to be like Lee Kuan Yew and turn Malaysia to be like Singapore. Please stop dreaming! remember because of 13th may the english dictionary used and adapt the word “amok” to refer to the specific behaviour that is really wild and that’s only have in deep of all the Malays heart that for the past years the malays learn to let it dumped in the bottom of our heart and we try not to think about it hoping that our new brothers and sisters from other races already take us as the same family! But remember, the words and the spirit is still there! Ask for it, and call for it! it will come and i don’t mind to die to protect the Sultan and i knew most of the malays is the same with me.

LKS if you really sincere, please first issue a lengthy statement to apologize not just one paragrah statement! 2nd Call for emergency meeting for All coalition (PAS,DAP & PKR) to form a joint committee to stream line all press release to reflect the pact opinion. 3rd Issue a guideline to all members (DAP,PAS & PKR) in issuing personal statement that will have an impact to races & religion issues. If you need to bang, bang in the meeting not outside. You may want to get DSAI to lead this initiative. But if this is not happening in the coming month, then you will loose forever the history that you just did. I will personally join gerakan and launch all out attack to make DAP not relevant at all. Because, though i’m malay, i won’t use racial issues to win mileage. So hope you make the right decision. Remember, becarefull of what you wish to!!!

Tq

P/s: to PKR DSAI & PAS, if DAP is not sincere let’s call Pak Lah to pass the PM post to DSAI and nego with other BN component and few credible umno to join us and leave DAP to join the revamp BA government. Though i still hope uncle lim take my advise. Thanks
http://www.tvanda.com

]]> By: hnlow http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/comment-page-20/#comment-87715 hnlow Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:15:04 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/12/no-dap-cec-mandate-for-pas-menteri-besar-in-perak/#comment-87715 i am a voter for barisan alternatif, and i casted my vote to DAP too. immediate after the statement made by Mr Lim senior, i have placed my statement in this blog but unfortunately, it has been censored. please dont do that, it only makes me think that you are behaving exactly the same as BN, filtering through only information that you think it deems fit for this blog and not others. That is not freedom of voice and transparency! what we the rakyat wanted to see is that you the opposition coalition can really walk the talk and preach the principles that is really against the wrongdoing of BN and not behave as one like them. so please allow me to have my own voice in your blog, Yang Berhormat. If you really think that my comments are overly sensitive, then please amend some words and do not simply erase it all as i believe i do share my 2 cent worth for the BA and the rakyat. Thank you very much! i am a voter for barisan alternatif, and i casted my vote to DAP too.

immediate after the statement made by Mr Lim senior, i have placed my statement in this blog but unfortunately, it has been censored.

please dont do that, it only makes me think that you are behaving exactly the same as BN, filtering through only information that you think it deems fit for this blog and not others. That is not freedom of voice and transparency!

what we the rakyat wanted to see is that you the opposition coalition can really walk the talk and preach the principles that is really against the wrongdoing of BN and not behave as one like them.

so please allow me to have my own voice in your blog, Yang Berhormat. If you really think that my comments are overly sensitive, then please amend some words and do not simply erase it all as i believe i do share my 2 cent worth for the BA and the rakyat.

Thank you very much!

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