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#1 by virgin rose on Wednesday, 12 March 2008 - 10:44 pm
yeahhhhhhhhhhh………………..
Congrates UNCLE LIM………………
DAP HIDUP ….
#2 by Sarikei Son on Wednesday, 12 March 2008 - 11:08 pm
Uncle Kit I don’t understand why you are doing this maybe to get some feedback from us. Look the maths is simple for the opposition to work as a viable alternative to BN you must cooperate with each other. Malaysia is a multi racial and religious country. I am from Sarawak but I hate to see the Barisan Rakyat break apart because of this and the wind of change to die. You must attend the swearing in ceremony. Sultan Azlan Shah is a respected figurehead and to snub the ceremony is to insult the Sultan. If DAP had won 30 seats you can demand who to be the MB. You don’t. Think of the bigger picture maybe you can get some concessions from PAS in Kedah and more posts in Perak. BN has been successful for the last 50 years because of this formula of consensus. Sometimes we have to move back one step to move forward two steps. You live in Perak-a Malay majority state. If the Malays did not vote against BN they will be the majority. Politics is a game a very serious one think of crossovers. BN only needs two. PKR already agree why do you have to do this? Let PAS be the MB and you still have the numbers to stop any “hudud” laws. That is where you draw the line. Personally I think the PKR candidate would been a better choice. Uncle Kit, the whole process of selecting a MB has been bungled but you cannot go back without insulting the Sultan. What about a rotation system as practiced in Sabah? Anyway you call the shots sir make it the right one. I hope my two cents opinion can make you do the best thing for democracy and good governance. Thank you.
#3 by jbozz on Wednesday, 12 March 2008 - 11:09 pm
I would like to stress that after 50 yrs rascist politic is still existed, in moving toward Democracy whichever party win the most should be able to appoint it’s own Menteri Besar, now the Ruler of Perak rejected it, it shows, Democracy are still not widely accepted by Royal Family. The Rakyat of Perak who majority choose DAP or Keadilan still unable to break the Dilemma of the Royal Family. I sincerely thinks that as a modern Royal, there should support the Rakyat, a single race for everyone that’s Malaysian.
#4 by jbozz on Wednesday, 12 March 2008 - 11:20 pm
I would like to stress that after 50 yrs rascist politic still existed, in moving toward Democracy whichever party win the most should be able to appoint it’s own Menteri Besar, now the Ruler of Perak rejected it, it shows, Democracy are still not widely accepted by Royal Family. Parti Keadilan have better result than PAS why not choose a Malay from Keadilan (are u saying PKR are unislamic) ?The Rakyat of Perak who majority choose DAP or Keadilan still unable to break the Dilemma of the Royal Family. I sincerely thinks that as a modern Royal, there should support the Rakyat, a single race for everyone that’s Malaysian.
#5 by ncysan on Wednesday, 12 March 2008 - 11:47 pm
Perak-not is a Malay majority state, perak is chinese + indians majority state.
pas as mb – not support, because now a seed, next election will become a tree. perak state dont want to be islam state.
pkr as mb – support, malay yb to be mb. fair
dap as mb – support, because biggest party in perak state.
sultan please, people is your son, your son is majority support dap. please
#6 by malaysiabaru2008 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:01 am
ncysan – u are saying chinese is more than the malays? why you include the indians in numbers against the malays single numbers? it is because the fact is the majority numbers of the populations of race in Perak is malays. Not chinese. If you guys still cannot afford the be more racist and cannot respect our sultan. You and your leader does not belong in this country. Who are you to question sultan rulling when before that you, the party DAP collectively said you will abide by the sultan rulling! I pity DSAI. Sorry dato’ all you effort is gone!!!! thanks to uncle Lim
#7 by VotedForChange on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:21 am
The DAP promised CHANGE, I voted for CHANGE… yet the same OLD politics is being played out in Perak. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get LKS withdraw the statement on the Perak MB. We made a lot of progress on 8 March and we should not be regressing into racial politics. I am a 30-something Malaysian Chinese who thought he was voting for a new non-racial Malaysia. If DAP betrays the rakyat like this, you are no better than BN!
#8 by Matureman on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:32 am
1. Everybody be calm. Don’t panic because of one blog post.
LKS is not Mahathir. We have to allow some working/sparring space to figure out the political relationships among partners. Even husband & wife will have differing opinions and behaviors.
What is important is we are moving towards a Malaysia for all Malaysian, as demonstrated by many of the mature posters here and their moderate opinions. Give some credit to LKS/CEC that they will decide the most appropriate action, considering the complex circumstances.
For those are expecting a perfect world after March08, you could be too naive/idealistic. Be patient & we shall be rewarded.
2. Beware of agent provocateurs & suspicious posts stirring up racial/emotional subjects similar to those from the posters below.
*ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH
*malaysiatoday.com
*ncysan
*mateRealWorld
*cmbss
*alaneth
*fifthbullet
*Anyone of them could be a sweaty, bald, fat, greasy faceless BN agent behind a computer. No offense to the genuine sweaty, bald, fat, greasy Malaysians who voted for change.
#9 by Windchime on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:33 am
Hello NYSAn, Ah Kow, Ah Chong, Ah Beng…
You understand DAP’s slogan “Malaysia for Malaysians?” or not. Aiyoh, we just made history where all races from all the different colaition parties voted for one another and for the new state government that is about to be installed. It was possible because it transcended race. No more ‘Malays’ or ‘Chinese’ or ‘Indians’ or whatever – just ‘MALAYSIANS’!!!!
You still clinging on to the state of mind conditioned by the BN after 50 years kah? You no fed up one meh??? So, if you still think like China Ah Piang, then expect all the Malays and the Indians to do the same and the dreams for a “Malaysia for Malaysian” kaput la. BN will be laughing loudly again.
The electorate has spoken as we wanted to see political maturity and change. We should now respect His Royal Highness, the Sultan of Perak’s choice – after all, you guys were the ones submitting the names for his consideration. His royal highness has done his part, so should you, the backward people in the DAP do the same. What boycott and all that. Not grow up yet ah? Talk so loud in ceramah and then now do diferent thing.
Besides, does it matter if the new MB comes from PAS if you are all in the same coalition? Yes, the same coalition – if you like to be reminded. So, please grow up and move on and get cracking with the bigger task. We have a much bigger agenda to carry on with. Please don’t disappoint us.
As for you NYSAN, I think you are one messed up Ah Kow la. A friendly piece of advice, if you want to follow the traditional, 50 years ago, way, please go and join the MCA. I believe they are still talking about acting for the Chinese and forget the rest of Malaysia.
They should be the correct party for you unless of course, the attendance from the DAP is poor at the swearing in ceremony tomorrow! Then you definitely can stay put. We will leave….
JK
#10 by iammsian on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:39 am
If what you say is true, then Ngeh Koo Ham shall resign as he has violated Party’s decision.
But i am surprised you are not aware that DAP-PKR-PAS have submitted 1 candidate each for Perak Sultan to decide. If you really do, then you should resign.
Afterall , Perak does not seemed to be you or Lim Guan Eng’s interest. You both only care about Penang.
Lastly, we in Perak, sent away a wolf, but invited in a fox and a toothless tiger. Big disasters are coming to Perak?? Who’s fault is this???
Can Pas be trusted? I don’t think you can answer this question.
Stay away from MB’s Swearing-in?? You wayang again?? Got guts or skills, go see Perak Regent to get back the MB post for DAP or PKR lah.
Same like Mr Ngeh, You are both strategically & politcally naive!!
#11 by yinhau on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:40 am
ncysan: I see you so insist on rejecting PAS MB. Why?
You so insist on majority should take all good thing, and ignoring the minority?!
So you also agree with BN to use their majority to take your right(which they practice for 50 years)?
Think again. You still insist on this logic?
check this website: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Malaysia
50% of population is bumi, 32% chinese, and indian 13%. You chinese(i am chinese, but i dun wan in same group as you) has only 32% in perak. Wake up man
I am chinese and i want to cooperate with all Malay and all other races in this country to make this place better.
#12 by democr8 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:40 am
LKS,
Boycotting the Perak swearing-in ceremony will be the biggest mistake ever.
Whatever motives you or your CEC may have had to come to such an ill thought out decision can still be corrected at this 11th hour.
Please reconsider, show us that you and the DAP were worthy of our votes.
Attend the ceremony, respect the Sultan’s decision.
For Malaysia.
#13 by iammsian on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:44 am
Hello yinhau
there are 47% Malay, 43% chinese, 10 % Indian & others in Perak.
And it is not about race here. It is about DAP & Perak People’s interest. It is about Malaysia democracy and Malaysia for Malaysian.
PAS PAS PAS……..like me, you never understandt PAS
#14 by democr8 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:44 am
And ffs, whoever is moderating this blog, MODERATE don’t CENSOR!
All 3 of my previous posts in the thread “No DAP CEC mandate for PAS Menteri Besar in Perak Administrator Notice” were omitted. SHAME ON YOU.
PS: I am just adding my voice to the countless other sane voices, asking the DAP to respect the decision and attend the swearing-in ceremony.
#15 by iammsian on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:47 am
Hi Yinhau
We want to co-operate.
We work very hard in election campaign ( compared to those of PAS, PKR & UMNO), but at the end, when the sweet harvest comes, some other groups grab the best shares……….. sound familiar to you…….a typical Malaysian reality……..
#16 by iammsian on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:51 am
YB Lim
Lim Guan Eng shall never take the Penang CM post. He shall leave it to soemone else. Politics and administration are different.
LIM GE shall stand taller that Penang CM. He shall has the whole Malaysia as his territory. Why limit himself to Penang???
Does it mean :
1) DAP has very limited capable candidates?
2) Lim GE is greed of power
3) DAP & LIM GE are not far sighted and has low political wisdom?
#17 by akumelayu on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:03 am
why you want to reject nizar as mb? because he’s pas a? you think he want to apply hudud in perak a? because he’s malay a? or he’s not include in malaysia for malaysian a? or you really don’t mind malay reject you in pru13 a?
think laaaaa….. don’t be stupid as Bodolah Bodowe!!!!
#18 by One4All4One on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:09 am
One4All4One Says:
Today at 01: 52.02 (13 minutes ago)
Dear MR LKS,
An earnest appeal….DO NOT boycott tomorrow’s function. Just consider what happened in Penang…The fact that UMNO’s DUNs did not attend LGE’s swearing-in ceremony did not speak well of themselves. It showed that they are ill-mannered and downright disrespectful of not only the office of the Chief Minister, but also the TYT Yang di Pertua and the people of Penang!
Kudos to Tan Sri Koh for his gracefullness. It shows his character and moral standards. He deserves much respect.
So, LKS..please don’t be like those ungrateful people. Show your face as others show theirs at LGE’s swearing-in. The Regent of Perak is a wise guy, he may have his reasons. Getting the MB post is ideal..but it is not everything.
EVERYONE knows that DAP receive the highest votes in Perak DUN. Look beyond the MB post. Let this be a learning process..the political journey is a long, long one…..you are tired…take care of yourself after all the hard work.
Look your best tomorrow. Be there , be graceful and you will be honorable and respected as well.
#19 by CommonFolk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:18 am
My dear yinhau,
Can you pls stop pretending to be a chinese? I have noted all your post. You are definately not a Chinese. You don’t write like a Chinese.
Stop being the outsiders where you are not even from Perak. What do you think your comment represent the wish of Perakians? We want our fate to be in the hands of DAP and PKR, NOT PAS!!!!!
Pls before posing as one, learn how to write your English in a Chinese way of expressing or else you’ll only fool yourself and nobody else.
Perak belongs the Perakians, outsiders like you please stay off and watch your BN tvs.
WE ONLY WANT DAP & PKR. THE PAS GO GO PLAY FAR-FAR!
#20 by deloin on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:21 am
Regarding the heavy traffic on the website. Please open up a few mirrors to ease the congestion.. it’s a no brainer
#21 by CommonFolk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:25 am
Also, the way you used Bumi…… We don’t use that word here in the Chinese community..only Bumi themselves uses it to elevate themselves. The only Bumis to us live in the jungle of Perak, Sabah and Sarawak. Their alias is sometimes called Orang Asli.
Next time when you want to provide statistics and referance, use the latest for your argument, not something from the year of 2006. Not credible.
Stay of Perak please..go focus on Selangor..that’s the place for you coz it’s downright racist there where they don’t even allow Chinese and Indians to be Deputy MB. That’s where you the Chinese-pretend should focus on, it satisfies your “Ketuaan”.
My dear yinhau bin cincau, Shoo..stay off!
#22 by geranamo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:25 am
lks I agree with Sarikei Son and wind chime, this election is a dream come true after 40 over donkey years of wanting to do something about Malaysia, does malaysia for malaysians ring hollow now, I travelled all the way from Canada and put in my votes for Lee Edwards and the DAP , I CAME BACK FOR THREE DAYS TO CAST MY VOTE AND LEFT ON MONDAY through Singapore, I am just arriving back home now and have been keeping abrest with whats been happening through the net, Don’t do this, I felt that I had done something right, THE NEW CM OF PENANG, MADE A GRAND GESTURE, now do a grander gesture, with the DAP CANDIDATE AS deputy MB, you still have control, with 18 seats in the state legisstature you still have veto power, Compromise, forget about these moronic selfish zeoleots, here, you can be a bigger man than that, don’t play into BN’S hands, if in 2004 the people voted for anyone as long as it was not mahathir, this time around the voted not for the opposition but against corruption and injustice, this is a once in a life time opportunity only, badawi has been the weakest link, move from there, and get the other states, when people, if you persist well you would have proven once and for all umno’s statement that DAP IS ONLY FOR THE CHINESE, this will forever be the death knell of DAP, yes you will get elected, but always as opposition, THIS is your Swan song do your best, MALAYSIA for Malaysians, bangsa Malaysia, what was that, was it another bullshit propoganda similliar to UMNO’S KETUANAN MELAYU,
grow up and see the trees for the forest, SRY my english getting very bad as i do not communicate in it.
#23 by WeThePeople on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:28 am
Dear Uncle Lim KS and all voters,
Come on!
Please be wise!
Hudud is only for Muslim and not compulsory for Non-Muslim!
Why must we worry?
Don’t let ‘Barisan Naikkan’ (Harga Barang) take advantage of these issue!
Non of Chinese nor Malaysia in Kelantan ever being beheaded nor being cut their hand in Kelantan by PAS Government!
Please check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UEj9aVpG9s&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64sgOkvIo5I
May GOD The ALMIGHTY ALLAH Bless our coalition and cooperation and move forward progressively.
Jahanam Racist NO-UM(PPHH)!
WeThePeople
WeThePeopleMalaysia@gmail.com
http://www.kelantan.tv
#24 by One4All4One on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:29 am
LEt’s not be racist, ok? LE’t try to be Malaysian first, chinese/malay/indian/etc second. Malaysia is our country, so naturally we are malaysians. We are born here..and die here too…unless you have other plans.
UNCLE LKS…..let us see your face at the swearing-in ceremony tomorrow, and also the rest of the CEC…be gracious..be magnanimous..be humble…be what we expect you to be…a truly Bangsa Malaysia…god bless all of you….
#25 by myritetovote on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:29 am
yinhau & Windchime, I agree with you guys. But do you really understand “Malaysia for Malaysian” mean? Since we fighting for “No more ‘Malays’ or ‘Chinese’ or ‘Indians’ or whatever – just ‘MALAYSIANS’!!!!” then why the MB must be a Malay or Muslim? Why not just have to be a Malaysian? If our Sultan want to think us as ‘Malays’ ‘Chinese’ or ‘Indians’ and not Malaysians then no point KS work so hard for. Correct me if I’m wrong.
#26 by lobster on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:30 am
Uncle Lim,
Please do the right thing and apologise to those who feel offended by your remarks. Boycotting the ceremony is a mark of DISRESPECT to the Sultan Of Perak.
I am chinese, i vote DAP, donated to DAP, volunteered in helping DAP, we got the change now but dont just ruin all these in mere 4 days!!!!
Malaysians Malaysia, Walk the talk!
Also please stop talk about ending NEP straight away, care for our malay brothers, who stood with us in this election, if you havent got anything in place to replace NEP to help the needy of all races, dont abolish it yet.
Next election’s works have already begun!!! Celebration is over.
#27 by disapointed86 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:36 am
problem now is that not only DAP MP’s are unhappy with the appointment…somehow it might also cause dissastifaction within the rakyat of Perak….DAP won 18 seats while Pas only 6 seats..why not let DAP Mp’s be the MB…i thought they always follow according to majority??..
#28 by DarkSideOfPolitic on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:38 am
Lim Kiat Siang,
First and foremost, I would like to say that I respected you and DAP for what you fighting for => Malaysia for Malaysian!
Now, back to the big issue here. Lim Guan Eng had set a good example by announced few encouraging policies, such as abolish of NEP, open tender for government contract, declaration of property by all exoc of government and etc, eventhough he appointed 2 vice chief ministers, as contradicted with what he said before the election, where there will be no vice chief ministers. (1st lie of DAP)
With all those great policies, and if it all run well, I truly believe that DAP-PKR-PAS coliation will be ruling the country on the coming election. But in only 3 days after the election, all the good works have been hindered by the your “lies”. (2nd lie of DAP)
If you said DAP-PKR-PAS already reached agreement that only candidate from PKR or DAP will be allow to become Perak MB, why PAS candidate name is submitted to Sultan Perak for selection at the 1st place? (Question 1)
Furthermore, you should jumping around and barking or perform what ever “act” you prefer to show your objection when PAS candidate name is submitted but NOT until NOW when “NASI menjadi BUBUR”!! (Question 2)
Your objection at this stage of time would be seen by many as protection of chinese voters, however many chinese voters that have crystal clear eyes will see this as an act to cover your “lies” and “empty promises” in order to retain chinese supports! (Question 3)
Well, I’m not racist, and I’m certainly not against a PAS MB, but you always support reveal of truth in government, it would be good if you follow suit by answering the questions that running in our head.
P/S: Everyone please check the post in PAS website that saying DAP Leader agreed this is Country of Melayu. PKR, PAS and DAP are fighting for diffrent ideology, I really have no idea how this will work out, if they took over the federal goverment. Malaysia => Islamic state? Or All Malaysian must be Muslim!?!?
http://www.harakahdaily.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13238&Itemid=28
#29 by stan on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:39 am
YB Lim,
The SULTAN has decided on the MB candidate based on the 3 names submitted by PKR, PAS & DAP. If by 2Moro there r no consensus among the BR… then Perak got no government…. Catch 22 situation but as a rakyat, i accept the decision by the SULTAN. I believe this situation was caused by by the FACT that there were not many good credential candidate for the SULTAN to choose.
#30 by gofortruth on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:41 am
Uncle Lim
PAS did not win this election, PKR did not win this election and DAP did not win this election based on any of their party principles.
BN lost the election through their ARROGANCE! The people have come together to stop this bulldozer. As soon as they have done enough soul serching & come around & be humble, people will be attracted to go back.
Unless you the loose coalition of three are seen to be cooperating well over the next few years and show to the people that together you have really changed the society for the better, your every past effort will come to ZERO.
This fighting over the MB post will be a GRAVE start. Stop this ghost train before it even leaves station.
God has dealt with you a good hands (Wow 5 out of 13 states). Don’t throw it all away please!
May God continue to strengthen you physically & mentally & replenish you with much needed energy and fill you with His wisdom & understanding. Amen!
P/s Prior to you starting to take out NEP, your new system (formulated jointly with PKR & PAS) explaining how poor people from all races will benefit must first be widely communicated & taught & publicized before BN gets a chance to slash at you.
#31 by gofortruth on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:49 am
disapointed86 Says:
Today at 02: 36.15 (5 minutes ago)
problem now is that not only DAP MP’s are unhappy ….
——-
disapointed86
For your information DAP did not win 18 and PAS also did not win 6, the angry Rakyat of Perak DID.
May be Perak Sultan is just testing if you guys are really for the people irrespective of race & religion. See how sensitve you guys have become. Looks like you have failed the first test.
#32 by adoionline on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:53 am
As long as the DAP cannot accept PAS as a friend, Umno-BN will rule. Please don’t be guided by ancient fears and suspicions. It’s a brand new day for Malaysia, thanks to all who voted for CHANGE – and that means a change in the way we relate to other people regardless of their skin color or creed. It matters not whether the Perak CM is from PAS or PKR or DAP – what matters is that he be a good man who serves with dignity, empathy and wisdom. I will never allow my own irrational fears to cloud my judgment – nor useless pride to ruin a potential friendship. If DAP doesn’t show up at Nizar’s installation tomorrow, the BN will have the last laugh – and I will never vote DAP again, because I have a very low tolerance for ethnocentric politics.
#33 by CommonFolk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:55 am
We want democracy. Democracy is justice. We Chinese voted DAP. Our brave Indians brothers voted DAP. The Malays only swung their votes in a mere 6%. DAP is the winner based on majority here in Perak, based on the concept of democracy.
PAS is a pathetic looter. Why? Before the names even submitted, and before anyting officially announced, they used cheap publicity stunts. It was first appeared in BERNAMA. PAS was the first to announced that PAS rep is the likely candidates, that is way before even Ngeh Koo Ham did it. Ngeh is the coalition leader due to DAP majority won by DAP, before the announcement of today Perak DAP. He didn’t mention even a word then but what did PAS did? Spread rumors to convince people. Called for public attention and got themselves into the TV first. The more they create publicity, the more convincing they look. Then when the Perak Sultan decision making moment comes..he knows there’s no going back but to only choose PAS rep. Reason to this? PAS suppoters are a bunch of extremists. The supporters was made into believing 100% the MB post will go to their leader. If it turns out to be a DAP Chinese or PKR Indian, what will these extremists do? They go on riot in Perak. Do you think the Sultan had a choice after PAS employed such tactics?
We only accept DAP & PKR. NO to PAS!
Pls note; when someone keep telling the same lie, and when more people keep repeating this lie, it will come out as the truth among them.
#34 by CommonFolk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:06 am
Dear gofortruth,
If your statement is for Perak, I am sorry Icannot agree with you. DAP is the winner and was the winner in Perak. Some other states hate BN and swung their votes to DAP, that I agree. But in Perak, DAP was supported by Chinese even in 2004 Election. When everybody gave up on DAP then, we Perakians and people of Ipoh stood by Uncle Lim and DAP. We voted them into Parliament in 2004, Uncle Lim, Po Kuan and Kula. The people of Perak and Ipoh voted them in to fight for democracy nationwide. In this case we Perakian have the right to be upset over this new PAS MB issue. Uncle Lim is angry because of this too. He knows he let us down. He has every right to express his anger publicly, this is democracy, democracy we claimed to be.
In the spirit of democracy, Uncle Lim let us know his disagreement and what did you guys did? Bashed and bombarded him without even understanding the concept of democracy. Giving in easily is not the spriti of democracy, it’s cowardice, it’s MCA in BN..give in la give in la..if not cannot become menteri in BN. Do you think Unlce Lim want to repeat this? Give in la..give in la..later cannot be Perak Government. Remind yourself what is democracy. Majority rules.
#35 by CKoon on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:13 am
CommonFolk, i wonder why are you trying so hard to insist that Chinese in Perak do not want PAS. You sound as if you are “working so hard”, are you the one with the hidden agenda?……..
Let me remind you, the party with the most DUN in Perak is BN (28), Not DAP(18). DAP(18) is not even 1/3 in the state(56).
#36 by leeann on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:21 am
Dear Lim Kit Siang,
I am a chinese and I think it is ok to have a PAS MB. We are chinese, we keep to our promises. If 3 names were submitted, and it was up to Sultan to choose, we should stick to the agreement. This is about trust and integrity. Chinese saying, “Gentlemen one word, four horses cannot chase’ .
If you think DAP wants to become MB, next time plan properly. There will always be next time.
Thank you.
#37 by controlnation1 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:22 am
LOL remind me what this blog is all about?or is this an extension of the previous one.
#38 by showsomemercy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:25 am
Commonfolk i give you my vote on this matter and issue. Come on guys, you people are just too emotional. Calm down. Uncle Lim is being honest to all of us. He is telling all of us what he feels. He treats us as one.
Just that you all never try to understand him but bash him upside down.
#39 by disapointed86 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:27 am
gofortruth Says:
Today at 02: 49.13 (36 minutes ago)
disapointed86 Says:
Today at 02: 36.15 (5 minutes ago)
problem now is that not only DAP MP’s are unhappy ….
——-
disapointed86
For your information DAP did not win 18 and PAS also did not win 6, the angry Rakyat of Perak DID.
May be Perak Sultan is just testing if you guys are really for the people irrespective of race & religion. See how sensitve you guys have become. Looks like you have failed the first test.
–> ok fine if u think that way…then somehow i hope DAP will not lost their supporter in PErak
#40 by danielim76 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:28 am
YB Lim Kit Siang,
I hope you can read this in time. I am writing in the middle of the night with this new account.
I used to live very near your house in Penang. My whole family respect you and voted for DAP. I voted for DAP in Chung Hwa Secondary for Karpal Singh and Rayer that is just opposite my house.
I am so worried about what will happen in Perak on who will be the MB. PAS wins the least and perhaps the Sultan do this on purpose to let all oppositions fight with each other? This is the first advantage. The second advantage that I can see is if PAS is the MB and many chinese will regret that they voted for opposition. So they will feel that “Oh we will vote for BN. If not PAS will take over again”.
Sultan is a very clever person.
Many of my friend in Ipoh also voted for DAP feel that they can accept a PKR leader as MB and not PAS. I feel the same too. But can the boycott work? I respect your decision but perhaps you can still negotiate with the sultan together with PKR on the spot?? Early in the morning.
Apologize if I write stupid things here.
IT System Analyst
#41 by danielim76 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:33 am
I am still not sleeping and very worry for this matter…..
It’s 330am in the morning. The swearing is not happening yet.
Perhaps DAP and PKR can still negotiate with the Sultan …..
So many rules … chinese can be MB laaa .. this and that …
Perhaps go by votes from all the seat persons that won, on who to be MB ??
#42 by showsomemercy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:33 am
Small cracks can be sticked back. No worries on that. I see many cursing that they have voted for the wrong party bla bla bla…
If you all still want to vote BN in the next election, then by all means go ahead. Then we will have another 5 freaking long years of sleeping MP’2 or wakil Rakyat.
Just vote opposition for a better Malaysia. Simple as that. Dont forget, there are infightings going on in UMNO, MCA and MIC.
Malaysia will never be the same again! More colorful and more “Meriah”. No matter what, just say NO to Barisan Nasional.
#43 by danielim76 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:39 am
FOR ME DEFINATELY NO MORE BARISAN NASIONAL.
CM Lim Guan Eng is doing a lot of work already for Penang people here
Hope the same for Perak.
Hope DAP will make all the decisions rather than PAS.
#44 by arthur on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:43 am
Hi Uncle Lim… i am not from Perak, but from selangor. But i support you 110%. But Perak’s MB must be DAP or PKR. No way for PAS! If selangor is ruled by PAS, i’m definitely getting out of here.
All the best for you Uncle Lim, wish you healthiness always too : )
#45 by bernama on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:52 am
menyesal aku pangkah DAP sehingga menang di DUN Senai. Kalau aku tahu LKS macam ni perangainya. sebijik orang UMNO. Gila kuasa! hampeh!
#46 by gofortruth on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:57 am
Dear Commonfolks
Thank you for your voicing out your line of thinking. There are now more than 500 comments now coming from all over the world (I’m a Bidorian now in Paris), and judging from all the respective voices, the majority of people here (its a very good over all representation) are seeing that the boycott is actually detrimental to DAP & also to the loose coalition of PKR, DAP & PAS.
Yes DAP has won some valuable seats back in the 2004 GE in Perak but BN was the boss.
So DAP has won more seats now, if it goes it alone, BN will still be the boss.
When BN gets their acts right to be more humble & more sensitive to the needs of the people,they will win back some seats from DAP for sure in the next GE. Where will DAP Democracy go from there? I’m afraid it will return to square one.
#47 by CommonFolk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:05 am
gofortruth,
this time round you sounded more retional and acceptable, I will not argue on that.
Since you mentioned you are now in Paris, just let me remind you that you have the least rights to comment on behalf of Perakians. You didn’t even vote! Don’t tell us you came back on the GE12 to vote then flew back to Paris staright and post from there?!
Also, maybe you are a Bidorian, but you are in Paris for sometimes..what do you know about Perak and Ipoh? Do you know how much a kilo of longbeans in Perak? We, the actual live-in Perakians know. So if you are not here around please don’t chip in for us…
**Above statement has nothing to do with DAP, PAS or PKR or this topic… It’s just a gentle reminder.
#48 by CommonFolk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:06 am
*Typo> retional> rational
#49 by mystique on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:46 am
Commonfolk.
I’m a Chinese living in London. And i am terribly dissapointed with your comments and what you’ve said to gofortruth.
I’ve only moved to London since January. I did not vote in GE2008 as well. Is it because I didn’t want to? Or didn’t try my best to? Not at all! I called the embassy, and was turned down. And obviously at the last minute it was impossible for me to return to Malaysia for the elections and come back to work by monday!
Although so, does this make you more Malaysian then I am? I stayed home the whole Saturday, clicking refresh on Malaysiakini’s website until my fingers were numb. Tears of joy sprang from my eyes when I know Barisan Rakyat has won, because I know now there is hope for my country. Am I less entitled to those tears and happiness because you are in the country and I am not?
You self-righteous, holier-than-thou comments is downright hurtful. Do you know how many young talented Malaysian Chinese have left the country, just because we are not established enough yet to do something for the country and because we’re to young and talented to let it all go to waste and not leave for somewhere where we have the opportunity to realise our full potential?
Do you know how much it hurts us to leave our families, our friends, our warm Malaysian sun, our corner mamak store, to be somewhere so far away and foreign, just because we need to do something for our futures?
Please stop differentiating us, one another. Malay, Chinese, Indians.. we are all Malaysians. Do you know how excited and happy I am when I do catch bits of Bahasa Malaysia in London or Paris? Because that.. is truly ours. Nobody else speaks it! If i hear Mandarin in London, most of the time they are from China or Taiwan, if i hear cantonese, most of the time they are from Hong Kong… I could not tell who’s truly from home anymore…
Until i hear that familiar Bahasa Malaysia, and it brings so much warmth in this faraway foreign land! It is so distinctly ours, even Bahasa Indonesia doesn’t sound close ok?
So please YB Lim, please commonfolk, do away with any doubts about PAS at all. I love my Muslim friends! They are absolutely peace-loving, gentle, brilliant and well-read! Please remove our racial barriers, because there really is no point. To be honest with you, alot of us young ones, can’t even read & write Chinese in the first place. We are truly more Malaysian then Chinese. It’s being Malaysian that counts!
On my flight to London, I cried and cried because I don’t know when and if I can ever go home. That’s because I didn’t believe, or had no hope there was a future back home for me under the Barisan Nasional Government.
But on March 9 I was able to call my mum, and tell her I want to be home before the next General Elections because I one day want to speak for Malaysians like Tony Pua and Raja Petra. So many of my young malaysian friends, now scattered all over the world shared my sentiments..
Please don’t take that hope away from us. Please go to the ceremony, work together with PAS & PKR so that I and all those young people stuck out there can come home to a better future..
And to be honest with you, before you had Tony Pua, Hannah Yeoh, Fong Po Kuan and etc.. These young brilliant DAP leaders with you, I’ve always thought DAP was this old CI-NA party which only appeals to my Grandma and Grandpa. The young ones like me really don’t want to deal with all these racial nonsense anymore.
We really want something progressive, something united, something truly-malaysian, for all malaysians.
#50 by phinixx on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:48 am
NO DAP CEC MANDATE FOR PAS MENTRI BESAR IN PERAK = NO MALAY PERAKIANS MANDATE FOR DAP CEC. HOW DOES IT SOUNDS?