Comments on: IGP should suspend Segamat OCPD for using force on seven-month pregnant woman DAP candidate in Labis to demonstrate police respect for women dignity and rights http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:28:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: bochenghu http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-89490 bochenghu Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:46:38 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-89490 FYI, follow Sibu's lead. Join your local RELA outfit. If you have beef with the police, then don't rely on them. I patrol my neighborhood with a bunch of RELA mates from 10PM to 4AM. I go to work at 8.30 and will only be home by 5.30pm. Still, it's no excuse not to take ACTION. The police never patrolled my neighbourhood but now they do. Regularly. Kan malu kalau Rakyat dapat, mereka tidak? FYI, follow Sibu’s lead. Join your local RELA outfit. If you have beef with the police, then don’t rely on them.

I patrol my neighborhood with a bunch of RELA mates from 10PM to 4AM. I go to work at 8.30 and will only be home by 5.30pm. Still, it’s no excuse not to take ACTION.

The police never patrolled my neighbourhood but now they do. Regularly. Kan malu kalau Rakyat dapat, mereka tidak?

]]> By: bochenghu http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-89486 bochenghu Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:40:39 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-89486 I feel for everyone's plight. My father was an ISA detainee for ten years when SUPP was the opposition. He fought for Sarawak's development, for her freedom and what did he get? A poor wife with five hungry children, working at construction sites waiting for her husband who have been detained without trial and without a release date. Even through that, he fought for the schools that we so casually take granted for. He fought for electricity, water and communications. And for all that... he gained nothing except 10 long years of hard labor. After all that, he never hated the government. He never resented. Even today, when the SUPP failed to help him with his land issues, he NEVER resented. He, earned my respect not because he gave me life, he earned it because he is dignified. And although he was and still is a grass root supporter of SUPP, he knows and accepts my decision to vote and support DAP. I accept his point of view and he, mine. He sits together with DAP champion, YB Chong of Kuching at dinner tables, and YB Chong calls him Teacher. Learn not to hate for we all fight for what we believe to be the best for our community. Why did I vote DAP? I believe DAP still have that conviction to make a change... the same conviction that burned in the hearts of the SUPP when it was still the opposition. Along Sarawak's 1000 kilometer interior road from Kuching to Limbang, they braved it all, jungles, rivers, sleeping in cars, getting malaria. If not for the opposition then, we would have ended up like Indonesia where you cannot use your Chinese name, attend Chinese schools or even speak mandarin. Because of the opposition, we have chinese schools all along the interiors of Sarawak. Such is the work of the opposition. DAP now carries that torch and I pray and I will commit myself to making sure that DAP lives up to my expectations. It is easy to ask of others, to do it ourselves is the actual key. Yes you voted for DAP. What now? Join the DAP as members and take ACTION. If the government won't build it, we will. If the government won't repair it, we will. If the government cannot, we can! Remember, Talk is cheap. I feel for everyone’s plight. My father was an ISA detainee for ten years when SUPP was the opposition. He fought for Sarawak’s development, for her freedom and what did he get? A poor wife with five hungry children, working at construction sites waiting for her husband who have been detained without trial and without a release date. Even through that, he fought for the schools that we so casually take granted for. He fought for electricity, water and communications. And for all that… he gained nothing except 10 long years of hard labor. After all that, he never hated the government. He never resented. Even today, when the SUPP failed to help him with his land issues, he NEVER resented. He, earned my respect not because he gave me life, he earned it because he is dignified.

And although he was and still is a grass root supporter of SUPP, he knows and accepts my decision to vote and support DAP.

I accept his point of view and he, mine. He sits together with DAP champion, YB Chong of Kuching at dinner tables, and YB Chong calls him Teacher. Learn not to hate for we all fight for what we believe to be the best for our community.

Why did I vote DAP? I believe DAP still have that conviction to make a change… the same conviction that burned in the hearts of the SUPP when it was still the opposition. Along Sarawak’s 1000 kilometer interior road from Kuching to Limbang, they braved it all, jungles, rivers, sleeping in cars, getting malaria. If not for the opposition then, we would have ended up like Indonesia where you cannot use your Chinese name, attend Chinese schools or even speak mandarin. Because of the opposition, we have chinese schools all along the interiors of Sarawak. Such is the work of the opposition. DAP now carries that torch and I pray and I will commit myself to making sure that DAP lives up to my expectations. It is easy to ask of others, to do it ourselves is the actual key.

Yes you voted for DAP. What now? Join the DAP as members and take ACTION.

If the government won’t build it, we will.
If the government won’t repair it, we will.
If the government cannot, we can!
Remember, Talk is cheap.

]]> By: bochenghu http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-89474 bochenghu Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:14:09 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-89474 Glad I voted DAP.... BUT.... People, please. Do have some sense and dignity not to swear and fume when replying. We don't need grammar cops or testosterone charged challenges. To belittle another's point of view is exactly what we are trying NOT to accomplish here. DAP is not about hate. It's not about expressing your anger and frustrations. DAP is here to change Malaysia. To make it better for everyone. Let's show the world that DAP supporters are dignified for we fight for the right of the people. Remember, we are here for the Rakyat. No room to differentiate between races, religion or color. No more name calling. No more hate mongering. DAP is now the government. We chose DAP and DAP, because of it's right reasons now represent the people. Hate not those who have wronged us for they are the ones with the festering wound. Doctors heal one and all and I believe deep down in my heart that DAP is the miracle doctor we need to heal Malaysia. I believe all Chinese knows the theory of Ying and Yang. There are good and bad in everything, including the police, the government, and even in the family. Glad I voted DAP…. BUT…. People, please. Do have some sense and dignity not to swear and fume when replying. We don’t need grammar cops or testosterone charged challenges. To belittle another’s point of view is exactly what we are trying NOT to accomplish here.

DAP is not about hate. It’s not about expressing your anger and frustrations. DAP is here to change Malaysia. To make it better for everyone.

Let’s show the world that DAP supporters are dignified for we fight for the right of the people. Remember, we are here for the Rakyat. No room to differentiate between races, religion or color.

No more name calling. No more hate mongering. DAP is now the government. We chose DAP and DAP, because of it’s right reasons now represent the people.

Hate not those who have wronged us for they are the ones with the festering wound. Doctors heal one and all and I believe deep down in my heart that DAP is the miracle doctor we need to heal Malaysia.

I believe all Chinese knows the theory of Ying and Yang. There are good and bad in everything, including the police, the government, and even in the family.

]]> By: alwan67 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-89023 alwan67 Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:40:10 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-89023 Frankly speaking, just focussing on the video...while at the same time putting aside legal technicalities and arguments of exercising democratic rights etc.etc. It does NOT seem that the police officer was using force. The still photos can be interpreted that he was (using force), but with the bad publicity that the police force have been getting, the public will generally just jump up with another opportunity to put them down. However when looking at the video, I just cannot say that I agree 100% with THIS blogs report on the case. Frankly speaking, just focussing on the video…while at the same time putting aside legal technicalities and arguments of exercising democratic rights etc.etc. It does NOT seem that the police officer was using force. The still photos can be interpreted that he was (using force), but with the bad publicity that the police force have been getting, the public will generally just jump up with another opportunity to put them down. However when looking at the video, I just cannot say that I agree 100% with THIS blogs report on the case.

]]> By: allasstra http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-85137 allasstra Sun, 09 Mar 2008 05:29:41 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-85137 any1 remember the incident where the police,with the help of "public" just ran over some alleged criminals on motorcycle,resulting in one death and the other wounded ? i remember seeing it reported on tv3 sometime ago... any1 remember the incident where the police,with the help of “public” just ran over some alleged criminals on motorcycle,resulting in one death and the other wounded ?

i remember seeing it reported on tv3 sometime ago…

]]> By: adamclp http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-84407 adamclp Sat, 08 Mar 2008 08:21:57 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-84407 Maybe the OCPD is showing his frustration because he couldn't find the culprits behind the hidden cameras in Room 1301. Someone please tell this 'sob' that he can take his frustrations to the privacy of his own bedroom hopefully without any hidden cameras, otherwise the VCD peddlars are in for another windfall. Maybe the OCPD is showing his frustration because he couldn’t find the culprits behind the hidden cameras in Room 1301. Someone please tell this ‘sob’ that he can take his frustrations to the privacy of his own bedroom hopefully without any hidden cameras, otherwise the VCD peddlars are in for another windfall.

]]> By: lopez http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-84315 lopez Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:33:50 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-84315 When news came about that malaysia's university has churn out many scholars but was of terribly low standards. Many of these parents were furious, but could either do nothing or accept it because it is fated. The gomen quickly makes GLC companies and other friendly companies to take them up. The other were given handouts or retrained . I was wondering when plantations were converted to other purposes like housing, factories , did the Economic planners thought about the lives of all the plantation and estate workers and their families. So I say the gomen had many so called experts but why these people are not given the same , retraining, handouts, licenses, compensations as those victims of bad education system and sub standard lecturing. Vote for Change Vote NOW VOTE DAP , and take part for our children future as we dictate and no be TOLD, TOW and TOLLed. When news came about that malaysia’s university has churn out many scholars but was of terribly low standards.
Many of these parents were furious, but could either do nothing or accept it because it is fated.

The gomen quickly makes GLC companies and other friendly companies to take them up.
The other were given handouts or retrained .

I was wondering when plantations were converted to other purposes like housing, factories , did the Economic planners thought about the lives of all the plantation and estate workers and their families.

So I say the gomen had many so called experts but why these people are not given the same , retraining, handouts, licenses, compensations as those victims of bad education system and sub standard lecturing.
Vote for Change

Vote NOW

VOTE DAP , and take part for our children future as we dictate and no be TOLD, TOW and TOLLed.

]]> By: lopez http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-84308 lopez Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:21:21 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-84308 Those lamers in the blue, are sick, from morning to evening they are reminded by their peers but still don't know what they are doing. only like to be clad in uniforms and be member of some group but dont know their purpose. Taking law in their own hands, and selectively administer them or instructed by their masters. Worst dont even know how they came into this world. His karma will take care of him. Small man with small brain not fit to wear that uniform , for all i know he could have bribe his way to get the position. Those lamers in the blue, are sick, from morning to evening they are reminded by their peers but still don’t know what they are doing.
only like to be clad in uniforms and be member of some group but dont know their purpose.

Taking law in their own hands, and selectively administer them or instructed by their masters.

Worst dont even know how they came into this world.
His karma will take care of him.

Small man with small brain not fit to wear that uniform , for all i know he could have bribe his way to get the position.

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-83753 limkamput Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:57:03 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-83753 The reality is you can’t write anything substantive other than trying to feign Jenny. Luckily the moderator spotted you early – a pervert on the prowl - and deleted your depraved posting completely. You are pathetic. You shouldn’t be here. Certainly those who can’t spell hindsight are more deserving than you to be here. The reality is you can’t write anything substantive other than trying to feign Jenny. Luckily the moderator spotted you early – a pervert on the prowl – and deleted your depraved posting completely. You are pathetic. You shouldn’t be here. Certainly those who can’t spell hindsight are more deserving than you to be here.

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-83737 limkamput Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:14:10 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-83737 Ok, forget about the one liner, accept my challenge and write me three paragraphs, not much just three paras. Ok, forget about the one liner, accept my challenge and write me three paragraphs, not much just three paras.

]]> By: kickbutt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-83734 kickbutt Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:11:03 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-83734 "I am 100% sure I can write better English than you." Lebai Kamal bin Put What??? For someone who can't spell 'hindsight" you should be embarassed at the thought! “I am 100% sure I can write better English than you.” Lebai Kamal bin Put

What??? For someone who can’t spell ‘hindsight” you should be embarassed at the thought!

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-83728 limkamput Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:01:03 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-83728 Kickyourbutt, You just don't get it. I may argue with Undergrad2 and Jeffrey, but in my heart I have my respect for them when occasionally they provided views which were refreshing and discerning. But for scumbag like you, never! You are a destructive one liner. You may laugh at my English, but the reality is you can't even write three paragraphs. I have challenged you on numerous occasions to write me three paragraphs on any of the issues here. I promise to debate with you on what you write. At the end, if I find you credible, I shall stop writing for a period of time just to watch you contributing. How about it? It is one stone killing two birds. First, you get to prove you are better than me; second you can kick me out of this blog. You have my word. I am not like you. I can be trusted because I am not a coward that keeps changing IDs to talk to himself. How low can you go, scumbag. I am not being cocky. I am 100% sure I can write better English than you. Kickyourbutt,
You just don’t get it. I may argue with Undergrad2 and Jeffrey, but in my heart I have my respect for them when occasionally they provided views which were refreshing and discerning.

But for scumbag like you, never! You are a destructive one liner. You may laugh at my English, but the reality is you can’t even write three paragraphs. I have challenged you on numerous occasions to write me three paragraphs on any of the issues here. I promise to debate with you on what you write. At the end, if I find you credible, I shall stop writing for a period of time just to watch you contributing. How about it? It is one stone killing two birds. First, you get to prove you are better than me; second you can kick me out of this blog. You have my word. I am not like you. I can be trusted because I am not a coward that keeps changing IDs to talk to himself. How low can you go, scumbag. I am not being cocky. I am 100% sure I can write better English than you.

]]> By: kickbutt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-83719 kickbutt Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:30:53 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-83719 "I apologize if I have hurt your feeling. It is not personal here, we are just cyber personality trying to put our ideas across and sometimes we get emotional and prickly." llimkamput Apparently the pressure by our lady friend on the moderator to do something is working! "cyber personality"?? A term used by undergrad a few postings earlier. Lebai Kamal bin Put, be original or at least acknowledge undergrad's use of the term earlier. It is only polite. “I apologize if I have hurt your feeling. It is not personal here, we are just cyber personality trying to put our ideas across and sometimes we get emotional and prickly.” llimkamput

Apparently the pressure by our lady friend on the moderator to do something is working!

“cyber personality”?? A term used by undergrad a few postings earlier. Lebai Kamal bin Put, be original or at least acknowledge undergrad’s use of the term earlier. It is only polite.

]]> By: kickbutt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-83713 kickbutt Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:23:04 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-83713 "“Then you said on hinge-sight it is easy to say that …” limkamput What??? "hinge-sight"??? a typo error?? a misspelling? or all of the above?? that's why you need to have more than an attap type education. "hinge-sight" ??? muaha..haha..muahaha!!! ““Then you said on hinge-sight it is easy to say that …” limkamput

What??? “hinge-sight”??? a typo error?? a misspelling? or all of the above??

that’s why you need to have more than an attap type education.

“hinge-sight” ??? muaha..haha..muahaha!!!

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-83699 limkamput Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:32:23 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-83699 Jeffrey, 1. If you can, please write in shorter sentences can or not. Your postings are like a contract document lah. It is not an insult ok Jeffrey. We know your English is powerful. But it is a request to facilitate reading not just for, the attap school type, but probably for many others also. 2. What we call for is an appropriate response from DAP if Police can not act fair, but certainly not to the extent you alluded to. There is no blatant accusation from the DAP of the incident in Labis but I guess a little insinuation here and there is sufficient to put the police on the defense and that to me is one of the effective means to deal with people who do not talk reason. Didn’t you realize that the police are now in defensive mode? 3. As for other points, I think we have both stated long enough and wise in my earlier postings and we shall leave it that way. Let others read and judge. 4. I apologize if I have hurt your feeling. It is not personal here, we are just cyber personality trying to put our ideas across and sometimes we get emotional and prickly. Jeffrey,
1. If you can, please write in shorter sentences can or not. Your postings are like a contract document lah. It is not an insult ok Jeffrey. We know your English is powerful. But it is a request to facilitate reading not just for, the attap school type, but probably for many others also.
2. What we call for is an appropriate response from DAP if Police can not act fair, but certainly not to the extent you alluded to. There is no blatant accusation from the DAP of the incident in Labis but I guess a little insinuation here and there is sufficient to put the police on the defense and that to me is one of the effective means to deal with people who do not talk reason. Didn’t you realize that the police are now in defensive mode?
3. As for other points, I think we have both stated long enough and wise in my earlier postings and we shall leave it that way. Let others read and judge.
4. I apologize if I have hurt your feeling. It is not personal here, we are just cyber personality trying to put our ideas across and sometimes we get emotional and prickly.

]]> By: ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-83670 ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:06:09 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-83670 Jeff. there is only one MR. NELSON MANDELA , who had a heart so gracious that he forgives all and forgets all. but jeff, can you be nelson mandela please. seriously. let the government put you into kamunting using isa for 20 years and still write in this manner. i salute you . i admit i cannot. Jeff.

there is only one MR. NELSON MANDELA , who had a heart so gracious that he forgives all and forgets all. but jeff, can you be nelson mandela please. seriously. let the government put you into kamunting using isa for 20 years and still write in this manner.

i salute you .
i admit i cannot.

]]> By: Jeffrey http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-83669 Jeffrey Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:55:58 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-83669 I am also talking in terms of the real world of politics and political realities in which the playing field is certainly uneven and where the other side can arrest you arbitrarily even when you are right, let alone wrong! I am also talking in terms of the real world of politics and political realities in which the playing field is certainly uneven and where the other side can arrest you arbitrarily even when you are right, let alone wrong!

]]> By: Jeffrey http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-83668 Jeffrey Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:52:11 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-83668 ADAM YONG, thanks for the comments but remember that the principle of "tit for tat" and behave a gangster to another bigger gangster works effectively where there is level playing field, in terms of power, and not when the bigger gangster controls an array of weaponry controlling al levers of power in the state. If you want to behave a gangster against such a bigger gangster under such circumstances you're only waiting to be quashed. In such circumstances you must surely recognise that your true weapon - the only one available - is the unassailability of your moral position (rather than gangster methods) that provides vindication. Nelson Mendela and Mahatma Gandhi used the moral position and cause to prevail over superior force. Had they otherwise advocated armed insurrection, they would long been killed, with the cause not served. ADAM YONG, thanks for the comments but remember that the principle of “tit for tat” and behave a gangster to another bigger gangster works effectively where there is level playing field, in terms of power, and not when the bigger gangster controls an array of weaponry controlling al levers of power in the state. If you want to behave a gangster against such a bigger gangster under such circumstances you’re only waiting to be quashed. In such circumstances you must surely recognise that your true weapon – the only one available – is the unassailability of your moral position (rather than gangster methods) that provides vindication. Nelson Mendela and Mahatma Gandhi used the moral position and cause to prevail over superior force. Had they otherwise advocated armed insurrection, they would long been killed, with the cause not served.

]]> By: ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-83667 ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:49:49 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-83667 the moderator had to moderate my later comments when hindraf, ethnic cleasing of the bosnians and the suffering of the palestinians were commented. the webmaster 's right. just vote la. the moderator had to moderate my later comments when hindraf, ethnic cleasing of the bosnians and the suffering of the palestinians were commented. the webmaster ‘s right.

just vote la.

]]> By: ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/comment-page-4/#comment-83666 ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:46:32 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/05/igp-should-suspend-segamat-ocpd-for-using-force-on-seven-month-pregnant-woman-dap-candidate-in-labis-to-demonstrate-police-respect-for-women-dignity-and-rights/#comment-83666 btw, if not for hindraf - who took on an alternative cause of actions and did the ridiculous of suing British Government . wonder if the indians are wooed by every party NOW. it was an illegal assembly by all rules of the law of the country - BUT i am sure we were all apathy about the indians plight , and none so courageous to stand up for them, but the indians themselves. they broke the law- but raise a point. a valid point. THE PRICED PAID : 5 DETAINED UNDER ISA. MORE PROMISED ASSISTANCE TOTHE INDIANS. what the action of hindraf right or wrong ? if according to law - its definitely wrong. but as a fellow human, my heart felt for them. same as the palestinians being killed by the Isrealist. children dead and mained. what alternative cause of action can anyone propose to those suffering palestinains. Or the actual ethnic cleansing of the Bosnians. undi saja. debates are easy in the net. but the warzone is a different scenerio. btw, if not for hindraf – who took on an alternative cause of actions and did the ridiculous of suing British Government . wonder if the indians are wooed by every party NOW. it was an illegal assembly by all rules of the law of the country – BUT i am sure we were all apathy about the indians plight , and none so courageous to stand up for them, but the indians themselves. they broke the law- but raise a point. a valid point. THE PRICED PAID : 5 DETAINED UNDER ISA. MORE PROMISED ASSISTANCE TOTHE INDIANS. what the action of hindraf right or wrong ? if according to law – its definitely wrong. but as a fellow human, my heart felt for them.
same as the palestinians being killed by the Isrealist. children dead and mained. what alternative cause of action can anyone propose to those suffering palestinains. Or the actual ethnic cleansing of the Bosnians.

undi saja. debates are easy in the net. but the warzone is a different scenerio.

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