This is my 42nd year in politics and the tenth and probably last general election which I will be contesting when Parliament is dissolved some time this month.
I have only one wish for the Year of the Rat – let Malaysian Chinese and all Malaysians give the biggest ang pow of all – the “mother” of all ang pows – to the nation and future generations by voting for change in the 12th general election so that Malaysians can stand united and tall to face the challenges of globalization.
Let us make the 2008 Chinese New Year the most significant of all Chinese New Years in the country particularly as it coincides with the nation’s 50th Merdeka anniversary to mark a political coming-of-age with a political will and commitment by Malaysian Chinese together with all Malaysians to usher in real change after 50 years of failure to fulfill the great potentials of Malaysian nationhood.
Let all Malaysian Chinese and Malaysians ponder long and hard what were the factors which had held back Malaysia in the past five decades from being a world-class nation whether in terms of parliamentary democracy, rule of law, educational excellence, international competitiveness, efficient and incorruptible public service, low crime, quality of life – allowing other countries like Singapore, Taiwan and South Korea to overtake us and presently in peril of being left behind by others like Thailand, Vietnam and even Indonesia.
The Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minister are very confident that the Barisan Nasional will be returned as the government in the 12th general election. They are right. But if they can be proven wrong in being assured that the Barisan Nasional could be returned with a parliamentary two-thirds majority, then Malaysia is set for far-reaching changes which can release hitherto untapped energies and forces which had kept Malaysia mediocre in the league of nations.
Denial of two-thirds parliamentary majority to the Barisan Nasional in the next general election is not going to be easy – as it must ensure that Barisan Nasional is defeated in at least 75 out of 222 parliamentary seats.
Neither the Prime Minister nor the Deputy Prime Minister can make any convincing case that in losing 75 parliamentary seats and deprived of parliamentary two-thirds majority, the Barisan Nasional would not have sufficient majority to govern – as Barisan Nasional would still have 147 parliamentary seats enjoying a substantial majority of 72 seats which would be the envy of all governments in first-world developed democracies.
The 2008 Chinese New Year will be the most memorable of 50 years of Chinese New Year since Merdeka as well as all 50th Merdeka anniversary celebrations if on this occasion, the Malaysian Chinese together with all Malaysians resolve that the denial of two-thirds parliamentary majority to the ruling coalition in the next general election is the first step to the goal of “excellence, glory and distinction” for Malaysia.
This will indeed be the biggest ang pow that Malaysian Chinese and all Malaysians can give to the nation and future generations to commemorate 50th Merdeka anniversary!
#1 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 4:47 am
“What’s wrong with a cloth salesman if he is dedicated to serve the people and fight for their rights?”
Who is this cloth salesman?
#2 by kanthanboy on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 6:04 am
Who is this cloth salesman?
I believe max2811 was referring to the DAP state assemblyman for Ipoh area who was elected in 1974 by defeating then the Major of Ipoh the late SP Senivasagam. If I remember correctly, he was returned for 2 more terms. He was a cloth salesman before his election as state assemblyman. He was not outstanding but he served his constituency diligently.
#3 by Bigjoe on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 8:24 am
It is worth noting that just when this country is ready for change, Sdr. Lim and those that have been fighting for it for decades is coming to the end of their careers. At least Sdr. Lim has paved the way for real change in DAP although he has been accused of being autocratic and dynastic in the past. DAP next generation may not be up to par with Sdr. Lim and his cohorts like Karpal Singh but there is hope better opposition leaders can arise from DAP.
This is why political systems need dynamism. Because without dynamism, you will come to a state of stagnancy that is all too evident in the BN. Even when the leaders change, nothing change and in fact gets worst.
Compare that to the US where absolute revolution like Obama, Clinton, Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich can arise and gain legitimacy. Compare that to Samy Vellu who still old argument about what others have not done or that he is still relevant. BTW, anyone ask him what would he have done for Malaysia if he was not an UMNO pawn?
The current issues on judicial system is so critical, it really bothers me that it has not angered people. Our apathy and ignorance is inexcusable given our stage of development.
After Sdr. Lim, will DAP be able to enlightened the people?
#4 by oct on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 8:24 am
If we all look at the US election, both Clinton and Obama said that they are ready on day 1 to start work not like our sleepy PM who needs 15 years to complete all his promises. This shows our sleepy PM is not ready at all to execute his promises. Look at all BN candidates, most of them don’t even have a degree and yet they can be ministers to lead the country. No wonder we are all screwed up. Their failure to plan means plan to fail. If we continue to let the HP6 govt to govern we are doomed. VOTE FOR THE CHANGE OR LIVE FOR NOTHING
#5 by cemerlang on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 9:24 am
Chinese New Year greetings to all !
An e-ovation to YB Lim Kit Siang for showing a relentless commitment to serve all Malaysians. Your courage, determination and perseverance will never be forgotten. This is the same spirit shown by all members and supporters who stay with the Democratic Action Party in Malaysia through thick and thin.
Whatever happens, I hope that Mr. Lim Kit Siang, you will continue to be with us in your blogs.
A change will definitely come because it is a human nature to change. From the time a human had nothing but to walk on two feet to this present moment when a human can travel to space, you all see that there is a need to change for the better. A scientist will tell you all that the capacity of human brain is underdeveloped. As time moves on, surely but gradually, the physical brain will be more and more developed and will think further, wider and deeper.
Last night where I am, the firecrackers went off like as if all hell has broken lose. Many Chineses will say that this is to chase away the evil spirits. Yes, including the evils of Barisan Nasional. Mismanagement of human resources until humans who are assets become human liabilities or the other way round. Mismanagement of finance to the point of having to prove to the world that we can build first world infrastructures when many of our people prefer to be stuck to a third world way of thinking by only obeying orders. Mismanagement of power when people with little or no substance are chosen to obey the whims and fancies of their big bosses .
Therefore I will vote out:
evils
egoism
wastage
injustice
credulity
liabilities
corruption
lawlessness
A quote:
On the eve of the Battle of Brandywine, this call was given out.
“… your unworthy minister will march with you, invoking God’s aid in the fight … need I exhort you to fight the good fight for your homesteads !”
#6 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 9:30 am
“…//…This is my 42nd year in politics and the tenth and probably last general election which I will be contesting when Parliament is dissolved some time this month…//…†YB Kit.
However “probably†in relation to taking part in last general election does not mean “definitely†– right?
We wish Kit the best of health. May God bless him a long and healthy life. If health is good and mind is sharp, there is no reason, why he cannot (say) at 2013 even at the age of 72 take on that last general election!
There is nothing that preserves one’s physical and mental health more than carrying on actively one’s calling that one has passion and love for. And there’s nothing that helps one’s deterioration quicker than to lose that active engagement with one’s love and passion!
From the many compliments here and elsewhere Kit should know that many appreciate his 42 years of sacrifice and dedication for the Cause of Democracy, which is a debt Malaysians yearning to be free cannot hope to adequately repay for his speaking for them.
Talking about age and active engagement versus retirement, there are many examples in history but it suffices that I mention only three.
The first is Lord Alfred THompson Denning, the famous “people’s†judge amongst peoples of all Commonwealth.
Born in 1899, he retired in 1982 at the age of 83 after having delivered more than 2,000 memorable judgments that not only have monumental influence over the development of English law, both in its substance and style throughout the Cpommonwealth but also had ameliorated the pain of law school readings for millions of law students in these parts by his lucidity and sharpness of thinking right up to the age of 90!
The second example is Sir Winston Churchill born on 30th November 1874. In his country’s hour of greatest danger from Hitlerian threat, Winston was asked to form the coalition government on 13th May 1940 at the age of 66 to fight the war on which occasion he mused : “I felt as if I were walking with destiny, and that all my past life had been but a preparation for this hour and for this trial….” (reference – The Second World War by Winston Churchill).
And after he had led Britain to win the wear, he was elected the Prime Minister again in 1951 at the age of 77!
The third example drawn from nearer regions and of more contemporaneous times is S’pore Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew.
Born on September 16, 1923, he only stepped down from politics in 1990 at age of 67 but is now still actively engaged in advice to Singapore administration and active in lecture circuit at the age of 85!
I could be wrong but surmise that the greater majority of leaders whether in governments or oppositions running or influencing the affairs of the world, at any one time, are above 60 in age! So don’t leave the exclusive club when one is still healthy and sharp, never mind the chronological age : it is the emotional and mental age and its vibrance that count! :)
#7 by zizou on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 9:55 am
Dear Uncle Kit,
A warm CNY from cool cameron highlands.I will be voting in the coming election, with my 13other family members. I dont care which ooposition it is going to be here, our votes(more coming!!!) is for the opposition.
If anybody out there been to this highlands lately, you guys will be in a shock to see the amount 0f “development” that has taken place….
The only way to stop the rape of the highlands is to vote for a better local government.
The present one is corrupt to the very core!
#8 by Candima Yu on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 10:19 am
On this auspicious first day of the Chinese New Year of the Rat, allow me to wish you and your family, Xin Nian Kuai Le and Good Health to you all. It has been a long and arduous struggle for you and your family to keepsafe the future and quality of life of the Malaysian people. Much sacrifices and pain have you given and endured over the years; not only having to face incarceration personally in Kamunting, but also to see you loved ones imprisoned. What sufferings your family members had to endure.I was a bystander, watching you patiently wage your battle against such great odds and my heart wept for you.
Without doubt, this election will be the Mother of All Elections and if the people of Malaysia do not see this as an opportunity to stand up behind you and tell the BN that we have had enough of their blatant disregard of human decency and outright irresponsibility in administering the country’s resources, then there is no more hope for any future in the country. If that happens, then I weep for the country.
If we do not drive out leaders who have no virtues, no moral fear in indulging in corruption and wastage of the country’s resources, what further hope is there to look forward to?
In this New Year, let’s hope the people will take off their rose tinted glasses and see clearly where we want the country to head towards.
May you have the strength and good health to lead us to victory. It is time.
#9 by waterfrontcoolie on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 11:07 am
At the ground level, YB,we should bring back elections to the town councils, city halls or municipalities. Those Councillors or Little Napoleons emplaced from above hold no responsibilty to anyone. Of course this practice was advocated by the current GOMEN to ensure that ALL their cronies would also enjoy the same ‘BENEFITS’ as they do,without having to share what they get at the top. Elections must be held at ALL levels of gomen if accountability is to be effective. This topic should also be voiced at the GE ‘ceramas’. It is all in the game, divide the take and be damned with the population!
#10 by waterfrontcoolie on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 11:13 am
And ALL deliberations at ALL COUNCIL MEETINGS must be mandatorily be OPENED to the publics as part of the requirements. No Council is allowed to make such exception to their so-called in-house rules or regulations. All changes to assessments should require a public hearing. Projects which cost more than rm$1 million should be open to scrutiny by the public.
#11 by Not spoon fed on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 12:35 pm
May the Mighty God bless Hon. Mr Lim Kit Siang and prolong his life and health.
In case, modern medicine could not heal friends or relatives, there is still another way: supernatural way.
See “Dead child raised in China” – http://www.born-again-christian.info/china.revival.htm
So, nothing is impossible with the right God!
May the Might Creator prevail justice and protect the weak groups in this country. May the Mighty God lead Hon. Mr Lim Kit Siang.
#12 by sotong on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 12:46 pm
Meanwhile…….evil forces are working desperately to deny the ordinary people the Mother of all ang paus – an environment of harmony, fairness, decency, unity and mutual respect with accountability, responsibility and competency.
Happy Chinese New Year to all!
#13 by Godfather on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 12:52 pm
Mother of all angpows ? Depends on whose definition it is. For the den of thieves, and their shameless mainstream editors, the mother of all angpows could be just RM 1, for they would have pocketed RM 99 in the process.
Badawi was quoted in his CNY message that all races must move as one. What the 4th floor boys meant to say is that all must move as one, so that “they” can all steal as one.
#14 by Not spoon fed on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 1:25 pm
If you do not believe in supernatural way, please see this fact -
Because the American government regularly broke its treaties with the various American Indian tribes, the Indians placed a course on the White House. That is why, from 1860 until 1980, every President elected in the 20th year died in office. You can trace that back to 2 things. The American government’s unfaithfulness to the American Indians and the fact that Abraham Lincoln, who was the President elected in 1860, premitted a spiritist seance to be conducted in the White House by this wife. She later died in a mental institute. See how involvement in such activity doesn’t just affect individuals, it can also affect whole nations.
President Reagan would also have died in office – an attempt was made on his wife early in his presidency. However, just before he took the oath as President, a group of pastors in a large meeting, combined in prayer and faith and released not just him but also the presidency from the curse (from Indians).
You see how close the curse came to being fulfilled, the bullet lodged within an inche of his heart. That was God’s vindication of the prayer that released the curse.
This is no abstract theory; such things negatively affect the lives of people and nations everywhere!
So, pray for justice in this country and for revival in this 2008. You shall see justice prevail and political revival.
We pray for blessing from the God for DAP and for Hon. Mr Lim Kit Siang. DAP has been trying to prevail justice and fairness for this country and for all Malaysians. It was the Malaysians themselves blindfolded by the evil force (of money, of power, of greediness, of selfishness, ….)
#15 by Evenmind on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 3:00 pm
BN = Brainless Nationalists., and they have to go. The country needs brains to succeed ,and definately not by way of useless brains from the result of the NEP. When you the best of brains Malaysia’s economy will transcend to the highest level ever .
THIS IS A FACT.,NOT FICTION
#16 by Libra2 on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 3:20 pm
What Malaysians need is to change our mindset.
To change the government we need to change ourselves first.
We need to look at our perception of right and wrong, of good governance, of transparency, of civil servants and government leaders honesty, etc.
Do we want to be government by thieves and liars?
If we keep thinking of maintaining status quo – jobs, business interests, bank accounts ,so as not to “rock the boat” – then ultimately we will end up sinking with the boat.
Just say, “Come what may and vote for Opposition” and you will never be wrong.
The right people will be there to bring this country to greater hights.
BN will bring us into the opposite direction.
#17 by Libra2 on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 3:20 pm
Correction:
Do we want to be governed by thieves and liars?
#18 by Bigjoe on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 3:28 pm
One can’t help but compare Sdr. Lim’s new year’s greeting and the PM. Sdr. Lim is a generation older than our PM and yet its reflects poorly our PM that his message is out of sync with the masses compared to Sdr. Lim. Sdr. Lim’s message is change to be united and face globalization, one of hope and possibilities.
The PM’s message ‘Malaysia… belong to all races, .. will work harder.. etc.’ are old excuses and sermons. Its clearly besides the point and grouses of the masses. In fact its downright insulting. Does he really believe that Malaysian does not know they are divided and its they that are holding things together not the government? Does he believe that they don’t appreciate what they have and don’t know what and why they don’t have especially the Chinese voters?
The Chinese voters are always more than willing to listen and in 1999 eventhough we knew that Dr. M and BN screwed up, we threw our weight behind Dr. M and BN as the Malay vote split for practical reason. In 2004, we threw our votes behind Badawi because he promised much although deep down we knew there was a chance he would not deliver. We knew what was promised was precious and every chance should be given.
What did he do? He trivialize it, when he walked away too easily from his promises and now again trivialize it by preaching to us.
Its downright insulting to think that the issues that concern Chinese, the corruption, the crime, judicial independence, religious tolerance, educational excellence, economic waste are selfish racial issues. Nobody is under any illusion that they are thinking of the Chinese votes when they won’t lift the subsidies.
This is a PM clearly lost. The problem is that he think he has a gameplan when he does not just as George Bush Jr. thought he had a game plan when he went into Iraq. That is why he don’t have a message because he does not know one.
#19 by kanthanboy on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 5:22 pm
“…In case, modern medicine could not heal friends or relatives, there is still another way: supernatural way….See “Dead child raised in China…â€
—————————————–
Not spoon fed,
I have read the article titled “Dead child raised in China†on the website as recommended by you. The author claimed that many miracles of healing and raising the death were performed by believing in Mark 16: 15-20. My advice to you is to seek the truth and ask the Holy Spirit to give you the spirit of discernment. Don’t be spoonfed with errors.
Are you aware of the fact that earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16: 9-20? Most versions of bible will have footnotes at the end of Mark 16: 8 pointing out this fact. If you do a Google search on “Mark 16: 9-20†you will find tons of articles and reason for doubting the authenticity of verses 9-20.
For example: [Mark 16: 18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all…..]
Do you really believe the verse in Mark 16:18? I hope you don’t try to drink deadly poison!
#20 by Loh on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 6:23 pm
///Let all Malaysian Chinese and Malaysians ponder long and hard what were the factors which had held back Malaysia in the past five decades from being a world-class nation whether in terms of parliamentary democracy, rule of law, educational excellence, international competitiveness, efficient and incorruptible public service, low crime, quality of life – allowing other countries like Singapore, Taiwan and South Korea to overtake us and presently in peril of being left behind by others like Thailand, Vietnam and even Indonesia.///–Kit
The single most important factor that held back Malaysia is the race-based political structure in the country. The formula Alliance party, comprising UMNO, MCA and MIC, utilised to gain independence met with success. The leaders of the component parties then were able to work together for mostly the interest of the people and the nation, for a decade. But not long after Independence, Article 153 was used as a basis to start ketuanan Melayu programmes. The example was the creation of Felda Scheme where the settlers were almost 100 per cent Malays. Then May 13 which was initially used to dethrone Tunku was utilised to perform non-Malays enfeebling programmes. The past 50 years show that race-based politics only favour the powerful party just like in the corporate world where the winners take all leaving crumps for those who are near the centre of power.
All told, the problems Malaysia faces are because the race-based politics. After 50 years of independence UMNO continue to fight for Malays, MCA and MIC were supposed to look after the interests of Chinese and Indians. The country is in perpetual war among the different ethnic groups. For the war to continue to be meaningful, to the warring parties, UMNO must be seen to be doing something against the interest of non-Malays so that they are seen to be fighting for the rights of the community it represented. Whether it was the deliberate attempts to cause headache to the vernacular schools or to perforn dead body snatching for Muslim burial, none of these acts could be considered to be beneficial to the nation, nor to Malays. But those acts serve to prove that Ketuanan Melayu is alive and kicking.
UMNO can claim to be continuing to fight for the Malays because the persons who gain unfair advantage through the corrupt practice of obtaining government contracts without tender are Malays. MCA and MIC have modified their role in leading non-Malay citizens to capitulate to UMNO demand, in grateful thanks to their UMNO bosses for keeping them in position for power sharing at their individual level. To demonstrate their ability to garner Chinese and Indians votes to get them in position to enrich themselves, and be stooges of UMNO, they were ‘kind’ to whisper the threat that the position of Chinese and Indians in the country would be worse if not for their effort in slowing down the pace of UMNO in its pursuit at discriminating and marginalising the non-Malays. It is clear that the conditions of non-Malays would only get worse as time goes by if the same race-based political setup remains.
Malays will continue to support racist UMNO. If Chinese and Indians continue to hope that MCA and MIC would stand up against UMNO for their rights, they can only expect hope to remain while losing everything else. UMNO can continue to claim a legitimate existence because there are MCA and MIC doing it. To stop race based politics, we have to stop MCA and MIC to participate in political activities in the country. MCA and MIC can continue with community services for self help, just like any other non-government organisations. They should not pretend to fight for non-Malay interest when their existence as political parties is fighting the interest of the communities they claim to help.
Human greed would not stop MCA and MIC from working for their self interests. The Indians, Chinese, and others who like to see a change for the better should vote for the opposition parties, including PAS.
The AngPow to all Malaysians is to vote against MCA and MIC candidates in the next GE.
#21 by limkamput on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 6:41 pm
kanthanboy Says:
It is difficult to draw a line between honor and dishonor in a Tunship.
Your observation is valid. But if indeed the Yang DiPertuan Agong confers a Tunship of Sdr Lim, I think you and I will not have any doubt that the award is for his contribution to this country. I am careful not to ask the Government to confer the award on Sdr Lim. To ask from the Agong I think is different although some wannabe lawyers will say the King acts on advices etc etc.
#22 by Colonel on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 7:52 pm
What have you got against lawyers and lawyer wannabes, limkaput?? Still smarting from the grilling you got?
Time to move on, ‘ol fart.
#23 by lakshy on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 9:10 pm
Evenmind,
someone actually said to me that she cant wish me because it goes against what they have been told by their religious leaders. Aaah… how sad. Should I retaliate and strike them off my list too?
#24 by kcl on Thursday, 7 February 2008 - 10:57 pm
YB Lim,
I can still remember the very first time I met and listened to your speech back in 1986 at this civic center in PJ state area by chance. I was one of the young college boys then and didn’t know much about politics but your speech really enlightened me and my perception towards Malaysian politics has never been the same.
I finished college and came to the US for my undergraduate and graduate school. I worked for a company for a while and started my own business later on. I took up my US residency many years ago but still reluctant to “convert” to US citizenship mainly because I still call Malaysia my mother land!! I am still proud to identify myself as a Malaysian and tell them where whenever any ignorant Americans here ask me where in the world Malaysia is!!
I come home to Malaysia to see friends and relatives every 2-3 years or so since 22 years ago. Whenever I was home, I will always try to brush and catch up the latest Malaysian news through our local biased media. Of course, today’s internet surfing and blogging, an alternate media, has make it easier and keeps me better informed in the past 2-3 years.
Your 42 years in active politics as a Malaysian freedom fighter eventhough you were put in jail many times under ISA for invalid reasons in your political career really gained my great respect and admiration.
I’ve been convinced long ago that the DAP is really an organisation that champion the rights of every Malaysian. You don’t do it for fame and fortune. None of the DAP leaders that I know of carry any fancy Malaysian titles. As Jeffrey said earlier on his posting “…from the many compliments here and elsewhere, Kit should know that many appreciate his 42 years of sacrifice and dedication for the Cause of Democracy which is a debt Malaysians yearning to be free cannot hope to adequately repay for his speaking for them….”
I have make up my mind. I will travelling home in a week from now to give you my utmost support and a vote for the DAP!! I’m spreading the word here to all the proud Malaysians to vote for a change and hopefully see more Malaysians coming out in full force to vote for a change this time.
50 years of corrupt BN rule is enough!!
#25 by limkamput on Friday, 8 February 2008 - 2:45 am
Colonel, are you a lawyer wannabe? Don’t be too sure. I don’t think you even qualify for that. You are a nut head who know next to nothing and yet want to talk very big. That is who you are. Even wannabe may know better than you. What do you mean time to move on. You think is so easy? Have you seen what is under the skirt yet? But out of decency and respect for this blog, I am not saying it here.
#26 by Count Dracula on Friday, 8 February 2008 - 8:19 am
Limkamput, I see you’re still at it! Can’t you take a hint that bloggers here are not interested in your personal feud?
#27 by Count Dracula on Friday, 8 February 2008 - 8:31 am
“This is my 42nd year in politics and the tenth and probably last general election which I will be contesting when Parliament is dissolved some time this month.” Kit
No doubt a strong and emotional appeal for all Chinese to unite and give the leader of the Opposition a grand send off! This may yet see a wave of support for the veteran of Malaysian politics who has become a living legend.
#28 by ktteokt on Friday, 8 February 2008 - 8:31 am
I agree with Loh. To make one party superior, you need others to admit they are inferior. This is the law of comparisons. By remaining in BN and succumbing themselves to being made “slaves”, MCA and MIC has in fact betrayed the races they represent (or claim to represent). The situation is worsen when they try to blind the race the represent by using “smoke screens” and telling the people they represent that such “drastic” actions by UMNO is “for their own good”!
I believe the leaders of MCA and MIC are not blind and knows exactly what UMNO intends to do but they simply accept it because of personal interests and benefits at the expense of the others. If such is the attitude of leaders of ethnic political parties, then these minority ethnic groups are going to be made slaves forever, earning a hard living just to keep their “jelly fish” masters alive.
#29 by sotong on Friday, 8 February 2008 - 8:42 am
It is time – Candima Yu.
It is long overdue for a change…..BN had lost its plot and more of the same will destroy the country!
#30 by LadyGodiva on Friday, 8 February 2008 - 11:25 am
Happy Chinese New Year boys! Enjoy.
#31 by limkamput on Friday, 8 February 2008 - 12:20 pm
Limkamput, I see you’re still at it! Can’t you take a hint that bloggers here are not interested in your personal feud? Dracula
Are you a wannabe too? Or are you Colonel in another handle? Why do you bother what I said? Sesiapa yang makan cili rasa pedas.
#32 by limkamput on Friday, 8 February 2008 - 12:22 pm
No doubt a strong and emotional appeal for all Chinese to unite and give the leader of the Opposition a grand send off! Dracula
NO, you are wrong again. The appeal is to ALL Malaysians. Don’t make DAP a racist party. I think that has been the intention of some Indian racists here all along. Again those who makan cili rasa pedas.
#33 by BlackEye on Friday, 8 February 2008 - 9:18 pm
Kit says and I quote:
‘The 2008 Chinese New Year will be the most memorable of 50 years of Chinese New Year since Merdeka as well as all 50th Merdeka anniversary celebrations if on this occasion, the Malaysian Chinese…”
“I have only one wish for the Year of the Rat – let Malaysian Chinese …”
“This will indeed be the biggest ang pow that Malaysian Chinese..”
“Let all Malaysian Chinese and Malaysians ponder long and hard ..”
This is a speech given here on the occasion of the Chinese New Year, not Thaipusam, Christmas or Hari Raya meant primarily for a Chinese audience. Still Kit did not take an exclusive approach but an all inclusive one. He’s too smart for that!
limkamput, if you’re not too busy bashing others for their views you’d have noticed that Kit did appeal primarily to the Chinese and there’s nothing wrong with that! It is after all Chinese New Year when all Chinese celebrate the coming of the Year of the Rat – the kind of rat that obviously you’re not.
#34 by Count Dracula on Friday, 8 February 2008 - 9:19 pm
Ouch!!!
#35 by BoDo Singh on Friday, 8 February 2008 - 10:25 pm
What “ouch”??
#36 by Not spoon fed on Saturday, 9 February 2008 - 12:26 am
kanthanboy:
Some testimony:
http://www.covenantvision.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=75&Itemid=45
#37 by limkamput on Saturday, 9 February 2008 - 12:36 am
I just have to quote a few sentences from what Sdr Kit said:
“I have only one wish for the Year of the Rat – let Malaysian Chinese and all Malaysians give the biggest ang pow of all – the “mother†of all ang pows – to the nationâ€
“to mark a political coming-of-age with a political will and commitment by Malaysian Chinese together with all Malaysians to usher in real change after 50 years of failure to fulfilâ€
“Let all Malaysian Chinese and Malaysians ponder long and hard what were the factors which had held back Malaysia inâ€â€¦.
You group of Kampung Attap rats; you dare even twist and turn Sdr Lim statements. Tell you what: you are a group of Indian racists who should rightly be sucking up with MIC or IPF (if you have not done so, or if you done so but without success). There is no doubt that you are here to undermine DAP for whatever perverse motive you have. Can all of you please tell Colonel that under the skirt, they found his (colonel’s) old mini with two flat tyres.
#38 by Not spoon fed on Saturday, 9 February 2008 - 12:40 am
kanthanboy:
” they will speak in new tongues; 18they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”
“They will speak in new tongues” – still happening today. If you have not see people speaking in new tongue, I could recommend you to see at one place….
Today, there are still people who have confidence and faith, still pick up snakes with their hands. We could watch this on ASTRO.
Today, there are still many people drinking poison – so many poison drinks out there in the market.
This requires wisdom to intreprete and to see it is a parable.
There are also verses like “If you have faith, you could move mountain”. It is a parable saying your confidence would do a big task.
#39 by limkamput on Saturday, 9 February 2008 - 12:47 am
Just look at the posting times of BlackEye (Yesterday at 21: 18.02), Dracula (Yesterday at 21: 19.46) and Bodo BoDo (Yesterday at 22: 25.36). Can it be that coincidental? You are dishonest to the core. If you are holding a position in Government today, there is no doubt in my mind that you too will abuse, take money and mismanage. Scam bags.
#40 by DarkHorse on Saturday, 9 February 2008 - 12:50 am
May be. But nobody here is interested to know.
#41 by DarkHorse on Saturday, 9 February 2008 - 12:51 am
By the way it is not “scam bags” but “scum bags” unless you write words the way you pronounce them. Hint, hint!
#42 by Count Dracula on Saturday, 9 February 2008 - 1:10 am
Limkamput, if you are really concerned for ‘sifu’ at least pen a few lines under the thread relating to his back pain which may put him in a wheel chair for a long time. Instead you’re everywhere seen looking for a brawl with cyber personalities who could be as delusional as you are or worse.
#43 by limkamput on Saturday, 9 February 2008 - 1:28 am
it is not “scam bags†but “scum bags†unless you write words the way you pronounce them. Darkhorse
It really shows your personality, nothing else – a personality disorder of finding faults, of trying to belittle others, and of showing others you are perfect. I have seen you doing to others including Undergrad2 for obvious mistakes by others. We shall see, you are not god.
Dracula, you should direct this question to yourself. Why are you here, if not looking for response of your irritation on others. I have told you, we can go on. I don’t have to earn a living like you.
#44 by LadyGodiva on Saturday, 9 February 2008 - 3:21 am
God!! Boys shall be boys! Limkampuit, you have to grow up fast.
#45 by kanthanboy on Saturday, 9 February 2008 - 7:57 am
I am writing in response to Not for spoon fed.
†they will speak in new tongues; 18they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.†– Not spoon fed
I feel that errors need to be corrected.
“They will speak in new tongues†– still happening today. If you have not see people speaking in new tongue, I could recommend you to see at one place….â€.- Not spoon fed
What you see is probably people babbling. The word “tongues†means “languages†in the context of biblical tongues. Check your bible, when the word “tongues†is used, there is always a footnote to indicate that it means languages. If you want to know what biblical tongues are you should go back to where it started, chapter 2 of the book of Acts.
Scripture: Acts 2: 6-11 [When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard them speaking in his own language. 7Utterly amazed, they asked: "Are not all these men who are speaking Galileans? 8Then how is it that each of us hears them in his own native language? 9Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome 11(both Jews and converts to Judaism Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!]
The reason why God enabled the apostles to speak in other languages which they had never learned was to enable them to declare the wonders of God to people who came from different parts of world in their own languages so that they could understand.
Today, some people try to equate speaking in tongues to holiness and use the manifestation to edify themselves. Some even claim that if you don’t speak in tongue you are not filled with the Holy Spirit. What they are saying is: I speak in tongue, see how holy I’m. You don’t speak in tongue because you are not filled with the Holy Spirit. This is all from the flesh and pride of men.
What’s the purpose in speaking in tongues (other languages) if you are in a congregation where all the people there understand the language of the speaker? If God has a message for the congregation He can ask the speaker to speak in plain language for the benefit of everyone. Whey is there a need for someone to babble in an unknown language? As an illustration, if you want to say something to your children, just speak to them in the language you normally speak. Do you have to speak to them in a Timbuktu language and then have somebody else interpret to them? Speaking in tongue will be relevant in situation where let say during a Chinese or English church service a group of German tourists come in and they don’t understand the language, then someone who has never learn and spoken German before stand up and starts speaking in German to these tourists declaring the gospel to them. This is what biblical tongue is. I personally have not seen this happens before. Do I believe this can happen? Absolutely yes, because when there is a need to preach the gospel to people in their own language so that they can understand the message, God will enable His people.
There are others who claim that tongue is a prayer language and it is a way of communication between the person and God. What they are saying is: We have a hotline with God and we speak in a spiritual language. I have to say that God doesn’t need to hear a special language. He listens to your heart. What do you do when your pastor or priest tells the congregation: “Let’s have a moment of silent prayer?†If God needs to listen to what you say how can he hear you when you pray in silence? As a matter of fact, God is smarter than man, He is not gullible, He listens to your heart.
Scripture: Matthew 6: 7-9 [And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.]
“Today, there are still people who have confidence and faith, still pick up snakes with their hands. We could watch this on ASTRO.†– Not spoon fed
I think you watch too much TV. I saw people pick up snakes long before TV was invented. As a small boy I watched those roadside medicine sellers pick up snakes. Are they Christian? I’m sure you know the answer. People can be trained to pick up poisonous snakes but if they are not careful and get bitten and not being treated in time they will surely die. Come on, have some discernment, these have nothing to do with Christianity.
Scripture: John 2:23-25 [… many people saw the miraculous signs he was doing and believed in his name. But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all men. He did not need man's testimony about man, for he knew what was in a man.]
“Today, there are still many people drinking poison – so many poison drinks out there in the market.†– Not spoon fed
I agree that there are so many poison drinks out there in the market. But what’s your point. Are you suggesting that if you have enough faith in Mark 16:18, drinking poison drinks and even deadly poison will not harm you? For me, I would advise people to avoid any poisonous drinks.
Can Jesus heal? Of course he can heal simply because he is God, the creator.
The ultimate healing is to accept Christ and be born again of the spirit. What’s the point of healing you from cancel if you do not come to Christ? It doesn’t matter what type of sickness you have been healed, you will still die one day.
How many people had been raised from the death by Jesus other than Lazarus? The reason why Jesus raised Lazarus from death is to prove his is the Son of God and it was a foreshadow of his resurrection. So if you think raising people from physical death is a Christian ministry, you have missed the point of His ministry. If someone believes his ministry is to heal those physically sick, he should visit the hospitals everyday and heal as many people as possible. This will solve the problem of shortage of doctors.
The common error of most of the so called healing ministries is based on what you and I can do instead of focusing on what He can do. Jesus said if you have faith of the size of a mustard seed you can move mountain. I agree that it is a parable but it is not about how big a task you can accomplish based on your confidence. It means you don’t have big faith (smaller than a mustard seed) so don’t think it is your big faith that enables you to do big task. Jesus said: “Without me you can nothing.†Christian faith is based solely on what He can do and not what you can do.We don’t have big faith but we have a big God.
Another common phenomenon based on the common error of what you can do rather that what He can do is the power of prayer based on number: The power of prayer is dependent on the size of the number of people involved. So if God doesn’t answer my prayer, I’ll get one thousand people to pray for me and if God still doesn’t answer I’ll get one million people to pray, then God will be obligated to answer my prayer. If this is true, then you are greater than God because you can twist God’s arm until he listens to you.
Remember the song “turn your eyes upon Jesus� That’s what Christians need to do instead of following men. Turn away from the men’s teaching.
#46 by limkamput on Saturday, 9 February 2008 - 9:45 am
LadyGodiva Says: God!! Boys shall be boys! Limkampuit, you have to grow up fast.
Don’t call me boy, you old woman/man. You are either blind or you have a screwed mind that can’t think fairly and impartially. I already told you earlier, if you can’t be fair, just shut up, old woman/fart.
#47 by limkamput on Saturday, 9 February 2008 - 9:51 am
LadyGodiva Says: God!! Boys shall be boys! Limkampuit, you have to grow up fast.
Don’t call me boy, you old woman/man. You are either blind or you have a mind that can’t think fairly and impartially. I already told you earlier, if you can’t be fair, just shut up, old woman/man or in between.
#48 by Morgan Lovell on Saturday, 9 February 2008 - 12:59 pm
I think this platform should not be used to wage personal vendetta, and instead should be a common platform for intelligent Malaysian to conduct intellectual communication, don’t you all agree?
I used to be extremely enthusiastic about DAP, feel that the world would be MUCH better without BN, extremely annoyed by certain unconsiderate comments, depressed due to certain ‘unfair’ treatment, tremendously pissed by how my tax money are been ‘utilized’, and the list goes on and on forever.
That was Me back in 3 years ago.
After that, I was fortunate enough to join a company that has provided me opportunities to be stationed oversea. As a person who had never went oversea for education, that really opened my eyes after experiencing the world outside of Malaysia.
Although I’d received many comments about Malaysia from all the people I’d met in different countries throughout my oversea assignments(UK, Holland, Germany, France, India, China, Indonesia, Philippines, Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Bangladesh, Most of SEA Countries), the following are the Top-10 common comments that I’d gathered from them:
1. Malaysia is a wonderful country, Truely Asian, alot of natural places to visit and at the same time provide a reasonable shopping experience.
2. Malaysia KLCC is a magnificent building, a MUST visit.
3. Dr. Mahathir ‘is’ Malaysia PM (though Abdullah had already become PM for quite sometime)
4. Cost of living in Malaysia is damn cheap (food, petrol, transport).
5. Cost of owning a house in Malaysia is dirt cheap!
6. Malaysia is a safe haven (no Tsunami, no earthquake, no volcano, no coup, no terrorist, no bombs)
7. Malaysia has alot of greenery, particularly great view travelling from KLIA to KL City
8. Taxi or rent a car is the best mode of transport to travel within Malaysia, public transport system are too complicated and complex
9. Malaysia is a haven for DVDs, 2nd to China (up until the government crack down those shops in Low Yatt and brought in the 2 famous “puppies”)
10.Cars in Malaysia are expensive (What? a 18k USD car without ABS and dual airbag??, simply unbelievable.. Which beemer did you buy for 21k pound? You had bought a Toyota/Honda Japanese car for 21k pound? you must be crazy… You bought a beemer at 500k RMB? ok, quite a bargain for a E60 there for 500k RMB.. wtf.. a E90 3 series without i-drive, sharkfin and chrome tailpipe for 500k RMB??)
If Malaysia is really that bad, I certainly don’t think that we will still received so many ‘compliments’ from people around the world. Among the people that I’d spoken to, alot of them actually wanted to retire in Malaysia or migrate to Malaysia and obtain Malaysia citizenship (not just Bangla and Indonesia as in our prejudices).
While I’m not Pro-BN, I also think that we can’t deny a certain facts of this country.
1. Malaysia Petrol is cheap thanks to subsidies
2. Malaysia cost of living and cost of owning a house is cheap
3. Crime rate are on the rise because alot of Vice Activities which is the main source of income for a certain group of people had been cracked down hard (human trafficking, pirated DVDs, etc)
4. Malaysia is still safe from terrorism and extremist activites (not sure whether this is related to Malaysia been self proclaimed as an Islamic country)
5. The main GLCs in Malaysia are reforming and transforming and are more efficient now(Tenaga, TM, Sime Darby, MAS, etc)
To an average Joe living in Malaysia, a rise of petrol from RM 1.92 to RM 2.3, or a rise in Teh Tarik from RM 1.2 to RM 1.5 is totally unacceptable, and it’s completely the government’s fault. However, people need to realise, Malaysia is also part of a global economy body, anything happening outside of Malaysia will affect Malaysian as well. The longed subsidies system had turned Malaysian into unsensitive creatures towards world events and the consequences of these events.
One might argue, Malaysia is different, we have plenty of natural resources, we have OIL!!! Why should we pay so high, so much for something which we ourself produce? Why can’t Petronas return those enormous profits that they had reaped in for such a long time and help us joe public?
Bear in mind, OIL is a resource that would eventually depleted, and Malaysia OIL reserved won’t be able to sustain generations after generation of subsidy. The money is better off to fund for other things such as buying into foreign asset that has potential to grow (What Singapore Temasek has been doing but are increasingly difficult to be done), or to fund better infrastructure building, fund for development of the country, etc)
However, whether the money saved from the subsidy are spent wisely or not, is of course another story.
I would say that the opposition idea of creating an subsidized world of living is like an Utopia to me. It might woes some votes initially, but in the long term, it’ll damage the country competitiveness on a global basis and eventually this will prove what BN claims on the oppositions are true, that they are only season votes wooer with exciting but impractical ideas.
When people quote Obama for ‘Change’, people have to realise, In order to have a Change, there must be a sufficient force ready to make the ‘Change’ and ready to replace. Is the opposition ready as Obama? I certainly hope so….
#49 by limkamput on Saturday, 9 February 2008 - 2:49 pm
Morgan Lovell,
First when you compare anything, I would urge you to compare with the resources each country has at its disposal and not with you other countries. Other countries may be more poorly endowed than Malaysia. Also, other countries may have some aspects that are worse off and some that are better off. So it is not fair for you just the compare those that Malaysia are better.
It is not only you that have travelled widely and therefore thinking that you know better than others, far from it.
Talking about Mahathir as the PM. Do you think foreigners really know what was going on here during his administration? Let me tell you this, Mahathir is good in generating sensation which gather the attention of foreigners who are probably angry with their own governments. Mahathir presided over Malaysia’s worse cronyism and corruption far more than the “goodâ€, if any, he has done for this country.
#50 by limkamput on Saturday, 9 February 2008 - 2:51 pm
Morgan Lovell,
If you want to compare car and petrol prices, you better compare vis-a-vis the per capita income of the country concerned rather than their prices based on official exchange rates. The price of cars in Malaysia is probably one the most expensive items based on income per capita basis. Ask yourself how many months’ wages are needed to buy a car in Malaysia compared to those in UK or USA. You must remember people in UK and USA earn income in pound and US$ just like Malaysians earn ringgit. The starting pay in pound or US$ is as high if not higher than the starting pay in ringgit for Malaysians. I think you have not factored that one in.