Mahathir right that BN and Umno incapable of reform – why BN 2/3 majority must be slashed


Former Prime Minister Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad is right when he said yesterday that the Barisan Nasional (BN) and Umno are incapable of reforming themselves without pressures from the electorate.

Mahathir warned that if the voters back the Barisan Nasional government once again in the coming polls, it would be an endorsement for a coalition “centred on nepotism and corruption”.

He also expressed the hope that Barisan Nasional supporters will not vote in “corrupt and inefficient” leaders in the next general election.

I fully agree with Mahathir and this is why the denial of the Barisan Nasional two-thirds majority in Parliament and the Perak state assembly should be the common objective of all Malaysians who want to see change and improvement in Malaysian politics and nation-building.

There are 59 seats in the Perak state assembly and at least 20 seats must be wrested from the Barisan Nasional to deny it the two-thirds majority. DAP is focusing on winning 15 state assembly seats in Perak (I had mentioned the target of winning 4 Parliamentary and 12 state seats in the Kinta Valley last week). If Parti Keadilan Rakyat, together with PAS, can secure five to seven seats, then a historic new beginning for Perak will be the outcome of the next general election.

At the national level, there are a total of 222 parliamentary seats, which would require a minimum of 75 seats to deny the Barisan Nasional its unbroken two-thirds parliamentary majority – the root cause for Umno political hegemony of the country.

Mahathir said yesterday that even if Umno loses 20, 30 of their candidates, the Barisan Nasional is going to win. I will say that even if Umno loses 30 to 40 parliamentary seats, Barisan Nasional is still the government and Umno the “big brother”!

The denial of the BN’s two-third parliamentary majority must be regarded as the first imperative of all Malaysians who want to see the start of change in Malaysian politics and nation-building after the next general election.

DAP should focus on 30-40 parliamentary seats, while Parti Keadilan Rakyat and PAS on another batch of 40-50 parliamentary seats.

If there is a 85% success rate in these 90 parliamentary constituencies targeted by the Opposition, then the 2008 general election will return a historic result where although the Barisan Nasional is returned to power, it is bereft of its two-thirds parliamentary majority – which will be the most potent instrument to usher in a new democracy in Malaysia with a national government that will be forced to walk the talk of accountability, transparency, integrity, justice and democracy.

* Speech (2) by Parliamentary Opposition Leader and DAP MP for Ipoh Timur Lim Kit Siang at the launching of the DAP Pasir Pinji Election Operation Centre in Ipoh on Thursday, 31st January 2008 at 1 pm.

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  1. #1 by glokaltower on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 6:50 pm

    For DAP to be able to win 30 ~ 40 parliamentary seats, a lot of hard works need to be done.

  2. #2 by ALtPJK on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 7:01 pm

    This is unprecedented!! I would not have believed it if such claims were reported on MSM.

    Never before a Malaysian ex-Prime Minister (even from the same ruling coalition) has come out stating that voting the party he once led would be endorsement for a coalition “centred on nepotism and corruption” and hoping that voters will not vote in “corrupt and inefficient” leaders in the next general election. What more such criticism being aimed at the one he annointed!

  3. #3 by mobileworld on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 7:04 pm

    I agree A Lot of “education” is required and people must realise that giving the 2/3 majority to BN is like shooting one self in the leg and complaining about it. Get it right this time plse..to all voters…plse think b4 voting and dont cry over spilt milk for the next 5 years to come….the power is in your hands!

  4. #4 by limkamput on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 7:16 pm

    This is all very good and very optimistic. But do oppositions have sufficient number of candidates to stand for the election, and if win, the tenacity to serve as opposition representatives?

    I am looking at two aspects:
    First, potential opposition candidates must have the necessary knowledge and experience to research and bring up pertinent issues in Parliament and state assemblies. In other words, we need first world MP and assemblymen; otherwise I think there will not be much different from the existing parochial and inward looking representatives of BN. Our world view is very much governed by how much we know. If we know very little on one particular issue, our view on that issue is at most neutral, but certainly can’t be very progressive and encompassing.

    Second, we need potential opposition candidates who have high degree of honesty and integrity. If the oppositions win big, I think the temptation to entice them over to the government bench is also greater. We have seen how the Gerakan joined the BN after the 1969 election and the history of Malaysia was changed forever. Since then, we have also periodically seen candidates won on opposition tickets but crossed over to BN.

    I know it is no easy task to identify good and honest candidates. But if the opposition is going to win big, it is paramount that the candidates selected to stand must meet some minimal criteria. Otherwise, it may just be a futile victory.

  5. #5 by Tickler on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 7:23 pm

    Will Mahathir canvass against Badawi in Kepala Batas?

  6. #6 by a-malaysian on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 7:24 pm

    Yes, I agree with all the comments above.

    I am very sure any candidate put up by DAP is anytime better than the corrupt bn goons and running dogs. At this point of time we must compare the opposition candidates against the bn candidates and not much further.

    We have to put them in first and time will tell. Deny them the two thirds majority and then we go from there.

    Fellow Malaysians the TIME FOR CHANGE, once in a life time opportunity is here. Do not let it pass.

    50 years is ENOUGH
    Vote For A Change
    Vote For Any Opposition
    Give Them A Chance To Change For A Better Malaysia
    Remember bn Is A Useless Grouping Of Self Serving, Corrupt, Dictator, Power Crazy, Racist, Kris waving, etc, etc type of parties.

  7. #7 by ALtPJK on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 7:30 pm

    With the spate of stirring issues coming out of the woodwork as if conspiring and begging for a change to occur and even moral support coming from an unlikely source, Malaysians are never nearer to tip the balance than ever before. If opposition parties cannot bring themselves together to capitialise on this advantage and if voters cannot bring themselves to realise and vote for this change then they certainly deserve another 50 years of the same.

  8. #8 by Tickler on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 7:41 pm

    Show no quarter:

    Husam sues two Kelantan BN reps
    Fauwaz Abdul Aziz | Jan 31, 08 4:54pm

    PAS vice-president Husam Musa has filed a RM6 million suit against two Barisan Nasional state assemblypersons in Kelantan and the New Straits Times Press (NSTP) for allegations made and published in November that he was involved in corruption, mismanagement and abuse of power.
    NST and Berita Harian sued as well
    Duo suspended from state assembly
    http://malaysiakini.com/news/77670

    Orang Asli church sues for basic needs
    Fauwaz Abdul Aziz | Jan 31, 08 6:06pm

    The Temerloh authorities who denied water and power supplies to the church say that the church was built without permission and located on a non-designated land.MORE
    Hearing on March 27
    Funded by PM’s Office
    http://malaysiakini.com/

    If I`m not mistaken the Temerloh MP is from MCA.

  9. #9 by Tickler on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 8:01 pm

    Aiyoh! I am such a Cina in this sense. I am so into cutesy stuff, esp Sanrio products like Hello Kitty, Kerokerokopi, Bad Batz Maru. So cute lah. Rocket Kid. Sure beats “hak seh wui”.

    Remember, DON’T VOTE MCA, KICK THEM OUT OF GOVERNMENT. Why?…..
    http://jedyoong.wordpress.com/2008/01/30/so-cute-the-dap-rocket-kid/#respond

  10. #10 by LittleBird on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 8:13 pm

    Frankly, I wonder why you are giving any credibility to what Mahthir say?. After destroying the judiciary and in pursuit of so called “negara industri” and after hand picking Badawi, now pretends to be the most honest and open politician. The reason why so many Indians were displaced was soley due to Mahthir dream of achieving a modern country without giving any consideration for the people who lived two or three generation in the estates. Not to mention the amedment of Constitution which is the root cause of so many problems.

    Even, now, when the time comes to speak the truth -unfortunately he is suffering from selective memory loss. Remember his Malay dilemma book which if any Indian were to write Indian Dilemma now would have been detained under ISA.

    Musa Hitam would have been an ideal Prima Minister and even Kuli but he eliminated the bright ones who would united Malaysia, irrespective race and religion.

    Despite whatever the shortcoming of Badawi, Under him (even if under the influence of KJ) there were so many good things happened. At least one royal commission to improve the police force and for the record I sure the record of death under police custody or even in shooting incidence markedly lower than Mahthir administration.

    Atleast there is a RC to investigate Lingam’s tape. You expect Mahatir to do it? Did Anwar walked free under Mahathir or Badawi? Badawi treated Nik Aziz with respect. Maybe, if only DAP can put across the message to Badawi maybe he may even consider DAP as working partner. Which is definetly ideal for all.

  11. #11 by DarkHorse on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 8:21 pm

    “I fully agree with Mahathir and this is why the denial of the Barisan Nasional two-thirds majority in Parliament and the Perak state assembly should be the common objective of all Malaysians who want to see change and improvement in Malaysian politics and nation-building.”

    A call to the Malays who are for the NEP etc to cast their votes for the opposition meaning not that they support the opposition but just so that their leaders will take heed of the warning i.e. that there is a rule of law, something called justice, transparency and good governance and accountability etc and not to mess with the Constitution.

    The politics of the past which has given rise to racial division, to corruption and manipulation of the law, to a judiciary riddled by corrupt practices and mismanagement of the economy must give way to the politics of the future i.e. the politics of change.

  12. #12 by KanNinNeh on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 8:32 pm

    Don’t be too happy with what TDM said, remember that he was the Sifu in UMNO !

  13. #13 by sungaisiput on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 8:38 pm

    Hi.. LittleBird…..what you say is true.The old drag is the cause of our problems.He is talking a lot of nonsense.The opposition must built on their strength and deny BN the 2/3 majority.That should be the main goal.

  14. #14 by HJ Angus on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 8:38 pm

    He is just sore that AAB has decided to cut the puppet’s strings.
    Now he could have demostrated a better memory at the RCI for the Lingam tapes but the selective anmesia tells us a lot about his sincerity.

    Maybe this is AAB’s strategic plan to help reform Malaysia?
    http://malaysiawatch3.blogspot.com/2008/01/maybe-badawi-is-smarter-than-most.html

  15. #15 by max2811 on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 8:41 pm

    Words coming from the Devil’s mouth. He is the Father of all problems in Msia. I don’t need his advice.
    I’ll vote for opp.

  16. #16 by Thegame on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 8:44 pm

    The golden rule is never trust TDM…He is always up to some mischievous hidden agenda of his own.DAP must work overtime to deny BN to 2/3 majority.This time stars are shinning for DAP with the indian awakening of late.

  17. #17 by LittleBird on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 8:51 pm

    Sungaisiput, you are not samy vellu, are you?

  18. #18 by DarkHorse on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 9:04 pm

    “The golden rule is never trust TDM…He is always up to some mischievous hidden agenda of his own.”

    The guy is not that stupid to know that his days are over or is it really over? Does this man still harbor hopes that he could garner enough support from within UMNO to take over the reins of leadership amidst all the chaos? Why is he coming out in favor of Najib who he says should have been appointed deputy instead of the current PM?

    Najib has been loyal to him all through the years, even taking controversial steps to ensure he remained PM at the risk of his own political future in the mid 80s.

    He has his own private agenda? You bet!

  19. #19 by pkrisnin on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 9:05 pm

    During Dr.M rule there was corruption but he kept it on a short leash but with Pak Lah, there’s no leash, everybody is free to suck the rakyat’s blood and we all know who is leading the blood sucking pack most love by by fellow bloggers.
    But it all depends on the Malays.
    The election results will show how much they have grown as a race.

  20. #20 by sungaisiput on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 9:17 pm

    Hi LittleBird ….i am samy’s nightmare

  21. #21 by Fort on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 9:18 pm

    The possibility of winning 1/3, as the first step is a realistic one. We like to see eventually an alternative gavernment taking over the BN.

    For the moment, the negotiating of seats for one to one fight is so difficult, I am afraid there are still a lot work to be done.

  22. #22 by anak sungeisiput on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 9:23 pm

    My origin lies in the tappers lines of Kamuning Estate (Guthries) in Sungei Siput. Sungaisiput may well have been my neighbour. No relation of the SV thug.

  23. #23 by Cinapek on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 9:51 pm

    I am curious about the timing of TDM’s resurgent attacks on AAB.

    Does it have anything to do with the imminent GE and the selection of candidates? After all, it is always nice to send a strong message to Doozy that if the “Protected One” is selected, so should the Old Man’s son.

  24. #24 by Wisdom above on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 10:25 pm

    What if BN win only 39% out of 222 parliamentary seats, what will happen to our country?

    Are you all ready with one mind and one spirit to form a new government ?

    Can you all run the country with the slow and obsolete ‘negative’ civil service ?

    The wind of change is coming , be prepared for it.

    I believe in the ‘miracle for change’ for the better.

    Think positive.

    Remember, all events happened yesterday & today were all illogical.

    ‘ Malaysian Love Malaysian ‘

    …..

  25. #25 by gofortruth on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 10:29 pm

    But PKR and DAP must never be seen to be fighting over seats, NEVER, not when a GE is just round the corner! This matter ought to have been settled immediately after the last election. NOT NOW!!!!!
    You will loose lots of votes over any fight now and it will be exploited by BN with its powerful public media machinery.

  26. #26 by iweepformalaysia on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 11:14 pm

    limkamput

    As for your first point, i don’t agree with you. Tell me how many of the MPs from BN satisfy what you mentioned? They only know how to crap and walk sideways. I am sure Oppositions have far more capable potential MPs than them.

    On the other hand, the Oppositions must show to the people that they are one, and not fighting among themselves. Notice how the government played up the issues. Without GE, there are no news whatsoever regarding the Oppositions. But now you get to see a piece or two, focusing on their disputes of seats. Transparent? Level playing field? Please do not let BN take this opportunity to tarnish and fish the votes away!

  27. #27 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 11:16 pm

    Beware of men in big shoes, red nose and bow ties who aren’t from a circus, they say!

    TDM has always claimed his love and undying allegiance and loyalty to his party, UMNO of which he was ex president. So why would he publicly say that the Umno which he professes love are “incapable of reforming themselves without pressures from the electorate” warning that if “the voters back the Barisan Nasional government once again in the coming polls, it would be an endorsement for a coalition “centred on nepotism and corruption” – knowing fully well his statement will receive wide publicity and convince people on the fence to vote against the UMNO led BN and used by the Opposition as clarion call to deprive BN of 2/3 majority? Something here does not jive or compute!

    What is his motivation?

    One possibility (which probably is the remotest) is that he wants to do something to “clean” up his legacy, which is identified with nepotism, corruption and failed politicians. I say “remotest” because even if there exists an element of such calculation, it must be very marginal consideration for the man is not known to be contrite of mistakes or to be bothered with what others say, which may well extend to what history judges as well.

    The other motivation is that if (thanks to TDM’s words of encouragement not to give full support to UMNO/BN), UMNO/BN does badly in this coming election compared to 2004 general election in which BN won 92% of the seats in Parliament – if BN loses to the Opposition many seats in Penang which is the home state of ABB – then will this not tantamount to a big blow to AB’s prestige as chairman of BN and offer the ideal circumstances for AAB to be urged to step down on grounds of leadership failure to pave the way for AB to be pressured by UMNO/BN’s power brokers to step down in place of the ascendancy of TDM’s preferred choice? After all, TDM has made his partiality publicly known and was quoted as saying in press conference, “that was my thinking, since (Abdullah) was older than Najib, he should be PM for one term and then Najib should be able to take over…I know it takes time to implement plans and projects but I think if that is to be used as an excuse to stay in power for 18 years then that will not be very welcome.”

    So the second motivation sounds plausible especially the man is also identified with spite for those who spurned him and by extension his pet projects like Proton and scenic crooked bridge….

    However it does seem odd to me of how either TDM – or by extension his preferred successor – will eventually still look good and sincere in the eyes of their party members if they are seen to be prepared to encourage support of Opposition to break BN’s stranglehold on 2/3 majority just to meet their private intra-party and personal agendas of accelerating ABB’s exit.

    Having said this, I won’t discount that there may well be a third possibility (to explain this rather inconsistent conduct of TDM to try to lessen his own party’s traditional ability to marshal 2/3 majority support) though I am quite unable to see what it is with clarity at this moment.

    TDM is strategic thinker, that much we cannot deny him, and he would not do anything without a good reason in service of his objectives, whether or not it is clear to others.

    There are 219 seats in the Parliament. To deny the BN 2/3 majority means Opposition has to garner no less than 75 seats. The Opposition currently has only 20 seats — 12 DAP, 6 PAS, 1 Keadilan and 1 Independent who is leaning towards the BN. If one does the mathematical calculations, Opposition has to do three times (3x) better than last time to come near the 2/3. Is that a likely feat?

    No doubt, chances are that Opposition esp DAP will make substantial gains, but BN is likely to retain 2/3 majority, and although would do worse than 2004, is however unlikely to do so bad as to justify credible leadership challenge from within UMNO/BN to thwart AAB’s intended 3 terms…..And then what will happen to TDM’s strategy – if indeed what has been speculated was indeed his motivation and strategy to usher the incumbent out of office to make way for his preferred choice? Will the incumbent then launch some spring cleaning immediately after he secured his second mandate (albeit not as convincing as his first)?

    This will be interesting to watch. As far as Opposition is concerned, it appears to have everything to gain from TDM’s “help” and nothing much to lose (so forget about the often repeated warning to be beware of bearers of gifts like TDM) unless one thinks (strictly from national interest standpoint), that the successor (endorsed by TDM) will be even worse than the present one….

  28. #28 by DarkHorse on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 11:18 pm

    “But PKR and DAP must never be seen to be fighting over seats..”

    Too late it’s all over this blog.

  29. #29 by mendela on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 11:19 pm

    The key question is, for oppositions to deny BN the 2/3 majority, are the oppositions having sufficient resources?

    To run an efficient and effective GE, oppositions need lots of resources especially when the MSM is just the mouthpiece of UMO.

    Are we bloggers contribute adequately?

  30. #30 by DarkHorse on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 11:20 pm

    The Opposition is fractured.

  31. #31 by Jong on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 11:28 pm

    “I am curious about the timing of TDM’s resurgent attacks on AAB.” – Cinapek

    My guess is it’s a distraction from the Haidar RCI. His name has been mentioned ever too often so he’s trying to get away attention with further attacks on AAB. Just ignore him.

  32. #32 by iyamwhoiyam on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 11:36 pm

    agree with Jong, DECOYs people DECOYs,

    Politicians make strange bedfellows

    anyway…..if u all have the time, do some face fengshui on TDM la…..look carefully how he looks in the newspapers and other media sources these days….

    senile, rotting, smells like fish ( ok, imagination a bit wild ), and definitely sicko up in the brain department, if there were any in the first place

  33. #33 by waterfrontcoolie on Friday, 1 February 2008 - 12:20 am

    notwithstanding his many faults, he is at least awaken to the truth! He must surely feel all the frustrations, after being high and mighty for 22 years and is now ignored by someone whom he had endowed the power with. Well that should not distracts us from trying to achieve 35% of the MP seats!! But at the rate DAP, PKR and Pas are fighting over seat allocation, I am afraid the target could just fly away; because when GE is set, maybe they are still negotiating!!! Come on!! Look at the mirror! Know your capacity and compare yourself with other possible candidates! make way whenever necessary.Even TDM had finally admitted that Candidates are more important than party!!

  34. #34 by chandar on Friday, 1 February 2008 - 12:36 am

    Lets not just talk, but lets start encouraging our family and friends to ensure they vote for the rocket or the blue moon or the white dot…..anything BUT the uncalibrated crooked dacing. NAd start talking to them NOW….

  35. #35 by chandar on Friday, 1 February 2008 - 12:40 am

    We cannot leave it to just the handful of opposition leaders to fight a crooked monster BN. We MUST support them in this effort.

  36. #36 by limkamput on Friday, 1 February 2008 - 1:02 am

    iweepformalaysia Says: As for your first point, i don’t agree with you. Tell me how many of the MPs from BN satisfy what you mentioned?

    I don’t quite understand what you are disagreeing about. What I said was most existing BN’s MPs and State Assemblymen are hopeless (in term of knowledge and expertise) and we must make sure future opposition candidates, if elected, will not be like them. I certainly know that the existing opposition MPs and State Assemblymen are far more capable and dedicated than the BN’s. But these opposition MPs and State Assemblymen are unique group of people who are leaders and professional in their own right. However, if the oppositions are going to file a large number of candidates in the coming general election, then certainly they have to be more careful to ensure that qualified candidates are selected to stand. Otherwise, they may end up just BN’s MPs and State Assemblymen. We must understand that it is rather difficult to attract qualified professional and technocrats into oppositions. But to run a modern economy, we need people with skill and expertise, not just political inclination and assertiveness. When I said this, I have in mind the Singapore’s experience in choosing candidates to stand as MPs and as ministers. That was what I said with regard to the first point I made.

  37. #37 by limkamput on Friday, 1 February 2008 - 1:13 am

    waterfrontcoolie Says:
    But at the rate DAP, PKR and Pas are fighting over seat allocation, I am afraid the target could just fly away.

    Yes, you are about right on this. Have we ever wonder why opposition parties are squabbling and fighting over seats with greater intensity? May be they think this time around, it gives them the best opportunity to be voted as MPs and State Assemblymen. For this reason, I think opposition leaders must really put their foot down and control the disparate group of fortune and power seekers. I still maintain what I said earlier that if we don’t have qualified candidates with integrity, the oppositions’ victory will be futile.

  38. #38 by choonchoy on Friday, 1 February 2008 - 1:20 am

    Dr. M, kindly hush up, all this shit is your doing. Now you get upset… why? Are you and your freinds getting less % of the booty? What I’ll remember you for is turning the worlds larges Court Building in to the (The Greatest Show on Earth) worlds biggest Clown House. Fall ceilings, bursting pipes, “It looks like me, sound’s like me…” and many,many more. Because of you, I turn my morning paper to the comics to get the news and to relax I read the Funnies on the front few pages. You have done enough damage!

  39. #39 by Jong on Friday, 1 February 2008 - 1:41 am

    waterfrontcoolie, you said:

    “notwithstanding his many faults, he is at least awaken to the truth! He must surely feel all the frustrations, after being high and mighty for 22 years and is now ignored by someone whom he had endowed the power with.”

    Ever heard the saying, “Leopards never change their spots” ? I strongly believe in it.

  40. #40 by laifoong on Friday, 1 February 2008 - 1:42 am

    iyamwhoiyam Says:

    “Agree with Jong, DECOYs people DECOYs, Politicians make strange bedfellows.”

    Imagine LKS sleeping with a Musllim religious cleric with Anwar in between! That’s quite a sandwich you got there!

  41. #41 by Man_of_Honour on Friday, 1 February 2008 - 3:12 am

    Speechless…

    From reading the article to the comments, I’m really saddened by views that are so un-united and unconstructive in some areas.

    Look, I’m not saying that I think like a saint or anything. But somehow or rather, I totally agree with what Mr. Lim said and I second his opinion on Tun Dr. Mahathir’s statement.

    I fully understand that Mr. Lim has the insight to differentiate right from wrong. And this is why we need leaders like him.

    It seemed that Malaysians are getting more and more judgemental and biased towards their own thinking and liking.

    If anyone could do better, then he/she should step up and say something constructing, rather than saying something damaging.

    Dr. M had brought development to our nation, a fact which we can’t deny. No doubt, there are times he made mistakes. We Malaysian are mature enough to differerentiate these, aren’t we? Mr. Lim, has my respect as he is very clear in this aspect.

    Thumbs up for Dr. M and Mr. Lim!!

  42. #42 by kcb on Friday, 1 February 2008 - 5:11 am

    Before putting one’s thumbs up, think again! Who started and fueled the present rot of this nation? Who raped the independence of the judiciary? Who destroyed the standard of English of this country? ……….

  43. #43 by BlackEye on Friday, 1 February 2008 - 5:38 am

    “Ever heard the saying, “Leopards never change their spots” ? I strongly believe in it.” Jong

    Don’t be too cocksure of yourself. But then I don’t blame you because you don’t have what it takes to be cocksure. Leopards do change spots these days.

  44. #44 by sotong on Friday, 1 February 2008 - 6:03 am

    This guy has done enough damage to the country and caused a lot of suffering to the ordinary people and now they are made to pick up the pieces for generations to come.

    It is not up the the ordinary people, including Malays, to initiate real reform and change to ensure the survival and progress of the country…..it is the leaders to stop indulging in narrow, short sighted, divisive and damaging politics at the great expense of the country.

    Decades of bad leadership could be seen in the dangerous behaviours of some politicians and youth leaders…….aggression, threat and intimidation are commonly used to achieve their narrow, selfish, personal and damaging objectives and the rampant corruption, religious extremism, gross excesses and abuses, increase in crime, breakdown of social and family values, widening gap between the rich and poor, falling education standards and etc. destroying the country.

  45. #45 by Malaysian on Friday, 1 February 2008 - 6:07 am

    BN still have many traditional “kampung” support.

    Though i think i managed to convince few BN friends that reducing as many votes as possible for BN is the primary importance, whether that area is BN stronghold or not.

  46. #46 by kcb on Friday, 1 February 2008 - 6:10 am

    Well said, sotong (@6:03.18)

  47. #47 by Malaysian on Friday, 1 February 2008 - 6:18 am

    Man_of_Honour Says:”Dr. M had brought development to our nation,”
    Yes, by lavish spending and we end up super infrastructure today (with 3rd class mentality). Remember now we are in budget deficit today. Any future development from now on must have enough future country revenue to support – if not, your children will suffer and face the consequences whereby the country in heavy debt with bunch of white elephant projects.

    “a fact which we can’t deny. No doubt, there are times he made mistakes.”
    Yes, Anyone made mistakes. Just like any govt. But How the mistakes are handled (or not handled at all – totally ignored) is what i am worrying.

  48. #48 by Malaysian on Friday, 1 February 2008 - 6:23 am

    A food of thought:
    Let’s say I got RM1000 of tax payer money, and spend RM500.00 on development of your garden
    another RM300.00 I used it unproductively (such as purchasing wheelchair for person who had healty leg).
    another RM200.00 I kept it (or used it unnecessarily)

    I am still seen as bringing development to you. You happy, I happy. Everyone happy.

  49. #49 by Malaysian on Friday, 1 February 2008 - 6:32 am

    BY DENYING BN 2/3 IS BETTER FOR EVERYONE AS A WHOLE.
    WHY?
    For example, 55%/45% in seats. 55 GOVT, 45 OPPOSITION
    OPPOSSITION WOULD NEED TO WORK VERY HARD IN THE HOPE THAT THEY CAN TURN AROUND THE STATISTICS IN NEXT ELECTION.

    BN WOULD NEED TO WORK HARD AS WELL AND TAKE EXTRA CARE IN USING TAX PAYER MONEY OR ELSE HE KNOWS THAT 55/45 CAN TURN TO 45/55 IN THE NEXT ELECTION.

    THIS IS THE WIN WIN SITUATION FOR ALL RAKYAT.

  50. #50 by pulau_sibu on Friday, 1 February 2008 - 7:22 am

    Did DAP invite Mahathir to be the candidate?

    UMNO may lose some seats, but Taib will be able to send him some chairs, enough that they don’t have to kneel

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