Comments on: Samy Vellu dropped as BN candidate in next general election? http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:12:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: mohan26 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-2/#comment-74749 mohan26 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:39:23 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-74749 Another "dirty politics" towards Election Najib's statement in Malaysiakini: "While promising several goodies for the Indian community, Deputy Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak at the same time today warned the community not to go against the ruling BN." Also he added that only BN could guarantee a better socio-economic well-being for them. To vote for BN or not, is our right. No one including Najib can warn our community not to go against the ruling BN. BN had its way for the last 50 years and has failed indians miserably. Its about time others are given an opportunity to show their capabilities. Our future at present seems better with those who are making true efforts to improve the lives of indians rather than those who have evidently and openly marginalised and oppressed the indians. Those who “staged street demonstrations” are there after exhausted efforts for improvements and changes, failed. The accusations "Of not using proper chanels" time after time is an absolute lie. If someone in the ruling party had taken an interest to read the numerous complaints and letters sent to the officials/politicions the street demonstration would not have taken place today. On the demolision of temples Najib said "That was wrong on their part. We are sorry for that". Well in a country that practices sensitivity towards religion this apology comes too late. In fact the damage has been done. To date "body snatching" is still taking place. Indian students are being abused at national schools, with the common statement by the government that there has been a "misunderstanding". Tamil school students remain the under previllaged and poverty very evident. Our patience has run out. The government was lucky the indians only chose to demonstrate in a peaceful manner on Nov 25th. For those who had seen the manner of the temple distructions the heartache and anger would have been sufficient and understandable had there been riots or violent clashes against the government/authorities as a result. So Mr Najib, after having done all "That you (BN) shouldn't have" and not doing "What you (BN)should have " Don't come telling us what to do, let alone WARN us. Another “dirty politics” towards Election
Najib’s statement in Malaysiakini: “While promising several goodies for the Indian community, Deputy Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak at the same time today warned the community not to go against the ruling BN.” Also he added that only BN could guarantee a better socio-economic well-being for them.

To vote for BN or not, is our right. No one including Najib can warn our community not to go against the ruling BN. BN had its way for the last 50 years and has failed indians miserably. Its about time others are given an opportunity to show their capabilities. Our future at present seems better with those who are making true efforts to improve the lives of indians rather than those who have evidently and openly marginalised and oppressed the indians. Those who “staged street demonstrations” are there after exhausted efforts for improvements and changes, failed.

The accusations “Of not using proper chanels” time after time is an absolute lie. If someone in the ruling party had taken an interest to read the numerous complaints and letters sent to the officials/politicions the street demonstration would not have taken place today.

On the demolision of temples Najib said “That was wrong on their part. We are sorry for that”. Well in a country that practices sensitivity towards religion this apology comes too late. In fact the damage has been done. To date “body snatching” is still taking place. Indian students are being abused at national schools, with the common statement by the government that there has been a “misunderstanding”. Tamil school students remain the under previllaged and poverty very evident. Our patience has run out.
The government was lucky the indians only chose to demonstrate in a peaceful manner on Nov 25th. For those who had seen the manner of the temple distructions the heartache and anger would have been sufficient and understandable had there been riots or violent clashes against the government/authorities as a result.

So Mr Najib, after having done all “That you (BN) shouldn’t have” and not doing “What you (BN)should have ” Don’t come telling us what to do, let alone WARN us.

]]> By: iyamwhoiyam http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-2/#comment-73710 iyamwhoiyam Thu, 31 Jan 2008 07:34:36 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73710 SV can't catch craps from a 2 dollar hooker..... SV can’t catch craps from a 2 dollar hooker…..

]]> By: aiD_kamikuP http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-2/#comment-73692 aiD_kamikuP Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:30:38 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73692 Right On! Right On!

]]> By: xpainxgain http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-2/#comment-73687 xpainxgain Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:56:42 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73687 If Samy Vellu dropped as BN candidate, surely he will get angry and left BN to form another party called Parti Untuk Kaum India Malaysia because he always thinks that he contributed a lots to the indian's community. If Samy Vellu dropped as BN candidate, surely he will get angry and left BN to form another party called Parti Untuk Kaum India Malaysia because he always thinks that he contributed a lots to the indian’s community.

]]> By: Sylentear http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-2/#comment-73632 Sylentear Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:39:17 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73632 Let him stay, let the Indian community be the judge based on his votes, and let our minds set to rest when the results come. so long as the votes are not doctored. Let him stay, let the Indian community be the judge based on his votes, and let our minds set to rest when the results come.

so long as the votes are not doctored.

]]> By: AhPek http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-2/#comment-73599 AhPek Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:41:24 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73599 Correction.'The prospect of .....................................zero, given the ......................'. Correction.’The prospect of ……………………………….zero, given

the ………………….’.

]]> By: iweepformalaysia http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-2/#comment-73598 iweepformalaysia Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:41:17 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73598 Well, in order for the younger generation to be able to walk straight, we mustn't let the crabs teach them. Time to feast on these crabs. Remove BN from our sights and go for a change. I would rather bet for the current opposition, even if it is just a term. Better than continue voting for a government that not only cannot deliver, but also promoting extremism and theft. Well, in order for the younger generation to be able to walk straight, we mustn’t let the crabs teach them.

Time to feast on these crabs. Remove BN from our sights and go for a change. I would rather bet for the current opposition, even if it is just a term. Better than continue voting for a government that not only cannot deliver, but also promoting extremism and theft.

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-1/#comment-73597 limkamput Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:38:23 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73597 Ahpek, I agree with you it is difficult. My statement is more of “fundamental desire” than an operational strategy. Without open contest for political office and vigorous selection into civil service, we simply cannot have a competent nation. That is why we are increasing falling behind and eventually even the Malays will feel the pinch. This political dominance based on race to provide the Malay security is a complete misnomer. Singapore has nothing; they don’t even have enough land, sand and water. Today it has offered to buy Citigroup, Merlyn Lynch and UBS. Ahpek,
I agree with you it is difficult. My statement is more of “fundamental desire” than an operational strategy. Without open contest for political office and vigorous selection into civil service, we simply cannot have a competent nation. That is why we are increasing falling behind and eventually even the Malays will feel the pinch. This political dominance based on race to provide the Malay security is a complete misnomer. Singapore has nothing; they don’t even have enough land, sand and water. Today it has offered to buy Citigroup, Merlyn Lynch and UBS.

]]> By: waterfrontcoolie http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-1/#comment-73596 waterfrontcoolie Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:07:20 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73596 S.V. was able to stay so long was due to the 'support' of the community itself. There are plenty of 'smart' Indians but non wanted to 'expose' S.V. because when TDM was around, plenty of goodies were given, but they forgot S.V. wanted all for himself and his cronies. Only when the hard core poor Indians couldnot take it anymore and out came Hindraf, now these smart Indians are jumping onto the wagon. I only hope that now the opportunity is here, take it and make sure the community really gain out of it! Like Anba said, his second liners are still in MIC, they will continue where he has left off, same story. Like the crab story my many Indian friends used to tell me. S.V. was able to stay so long was due to the ‘support’ of the community itself. There are plenty of ‘smart’ Indians but non wanted to ‘expose’ S.V. because when TDM was around, plenty of goodies were given, but they forgot S.V. wanted all for himself and his cronies. Only when the hard core poor Indians couldnot take it anymore and out came Hindraf, now these smart Indians are jumping onto the wagon. I only hope that now the opportunity is here, take it and make sure the community really gain out of it! Like Anba said, his second liners are still in MIC, they will continue where he has left off, same story. Like the crab story my many Indian friends used to tell me.

]]> By: AhPek http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-1/#comment-73585 AhPek Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:36:53 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73585 'If Samy Vellu goes today, the situation of Indians will remain unchanged.It is just replacing one eunuch with another.The same goes for OKT and KSK.With each of these parties there are hundreds of eunuchs waiting at the wing.'.limkamput Spot on.I couldn't agree with you any less for these people from the component parties of BN are in fact lap dogs instead of functioning as watch dogs waiting for crumbs dished out by their masters. However your other statements 'The whole power arrangement of this country needs to be renegotiated.The nation must be governed by competent and capable people,not the"phua tang sai" people we have now .................' are easier said than done. There are first of all 2 sets of leadership running the country (a)the political leadership and (b) the civil service running the the institutions of this country. To cater to your hope the first thing to be achieved is to change the governing party.The prospect of this happening is probably next to zero giving the huge monumental unfair playing field the opposition find themselves in. Even if,by a stroke of real a... luck the opposition wins in this election the running of this country will not change to any degree for you have that dead wood the civil service to tackle.The civil service is not only filled by incompetent people but also could be infested by many fanatical muslims! It may take a few terms for an enlightened governing party to effect a change with a really decisive PM spearheading the change. ‘If Samy Vellu goes today, the situation of Indians will remain unchanged.It is just replacing one eunuch with another.The same goes for OKT and KSK.With each of these parties there are hundreds of eunuchs waiting at the wing.’.limkamput
Spot on.I couldn’t agree with you any less for these people from the component parties of BN are in fact lap dogs instead of functioning as watch dogs waiting for crumbs dished out by their masters.
However your other statements ‘The whole power arrangement of this country needs to be renegotiated.The nation must be governed by competent and capable people,not the”phua tang sai” people we have now ……………..’ are easier said than done. There are first of all 2 sets of leadership running the country (a)the political leadership and (b) the civil service running the the institutions of this country.
To cater to your hope the first thing to be achieved is to change the governing party.The prospect of this happening is probably next to zero giving the huge monumental unfair playing field the opposition find themselves in.
Even if,by a stroke of real a… luck the opposition wins in this election the running of this country will not change to any degree for you have that dead wood the civil service to tackle.The civil service is not only filled by incompetent people but also could be infested by many fanatical muslims! It may take a few terms for an enlightened governing party to effect a change with a really decisive PM spearheading the change.

]]> By: SIMPLYJUSTICE http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-1/#comment-73581 SIMPLYJUSTICE Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:23:02 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73581 I wonder what benefit will the opposition gets - whether or not SV is contesting in Sg. Siput? I beleive any BN candidates will win at Sungai Siput UNLESS the indians exercise thier voting rights correctly. For the indians to vote for the opposition, they will have to know what they are getting otherwise it is prudent not to exercise their rights and still be the King Makers. I wonder what benefit will the opposition gets – whether or not SV is contesting in Sg. Siput?

I beleive any BN candidates will win at Sungai Siput UNLESS the indians exercise thier voting rights correctly.

For the indians to vote for the opposition, they will have to know what they are getting otherwise it is prudent not to exercise their rights and still be the King Makers.

]]> By: don http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-1/#comment-73579 don Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:12:50 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73579 I agree with Anba's views. The henchmen of SV should be wiped out to the core before a new MIC leadership takes over. Guys like ex-Senator Saravanan, dead man walking Palanivel, super softie Sothinathan, bird brain Vel Paari & other loyalists of SV should be deleted. Good, clean educated leaders such as Devamoney, thambirajah, Vimala Nair & like minded people should be brought to the fore. But the grassroot is very much Tamil speaking & poor Indians who might feel threathen by this group. Nevertheless, somewhere the new beginning must start with an end. I agree with Anba’s views. The henchmen of SV should be wiped out to the core before a new MIC leadership takes over. Guys like ex-Senator Saravanan, dead man walking Palanivel, super softie Sothinathan, bird brain Vel Paari & other loyalists of SV should be deleted. Good, clean educated leaders such as Devamoney, thambirajah, Vimala Nair & like minded people should be brought to the fore. But the grassroot is very much Tamil speaking & poor Indians who might feel threathen by this group. Nevertheless, somewhere the new beginning must start with an end.

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-1/#comment-73578 limkamput Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:08:03 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73578 “If the government feels it needs the community and is concerned about the community, then please talk to this leader. Enough, he has already been there for 28 years.” “The Indians were loyal supporters of BN. The government could not question our sincerity, so why did the government leave us in the hands of this leadership?” he asked further. KP Samy as quoted by Ticker These are useless statement from a FORMER MIC CWC member. He is hoping to be the next eunuch, trust me. Who among the present MIC leaders have said anything so far? Zip. This is the pathetic reality of MIC and other BN component parties like MCA and Gerakan. It is always the former leaders, former ministers and former CWC members that speak up. How strange! “If the government feels it needs the community and is concerned about the community, then please talk to this leader. Enough, he has already been there for 28 years.”

“The Indians were loyal supporters of BN. The government could not question our sincerity, so why did the government leave us in the hands of this leadership?” he asked further. KP Samy as quoted by Ticker

These are useless statement from a FORMER MIC CWC member. He is hoping to be the next eunuch, trust me. Who among the present MIC leaders have said anything so far? Zip. This is the pathetic reality of MIC and other BN component parties like MCA and Gerakan. It is always the former leaders, former ministers and former CWC members that speak up. How strange!

]]> By: lhteoh http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-1/#comment-73564 lhteoh Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:50:22 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73564 Whether samy adds value or no value to BN, is inmaterial. He is already a deadwood, why wasting time to debate a deadwood. What is important to us is to help the oppositions deny BN 2/3 majority. We must find ways to help the oppositions, a simple thing we can do is to convince our friends, relatives and people that we know to vote for oppositions. Whether samy adds value or no value to BN, is inmaterial. He is already a deadwood, why wasting time to debate a deadwood. What is important to us is to help the oppositions deny BN 2/3 majority. We must find ways to help the oppositions, a simple thing we can do is to convince our friends, relatives and people that we know to vote for oppositions.

]]> By: DarkHorse http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-1/#comment-73560 DarkHorse Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:37:41 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73560 Cheers! *gulp* Too much drinking. Cheers! *gulp* Too much drinking.

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-1/#comment-73558 limkamput Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:34:29 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73558 oknyua Says: If you value it, I’d say “well done” (if you don’t value it, just ignore my comment). Cheers! YOur advice duly noted. This name calling thing, frankly i don't know how it got started. Anyway, I will heed your advice, hopefully. oknyua Says:
If you value it, I’d say “well done” (if you don’t value it, just ignore my comment). Cheers!

YOur advice duly noted. This name calling thing, frankly i don’t know how it got started. Anyway, I will heed your advice, hopefully.

]]> By: vehir http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-1/#comment-73556 vehir Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:32:22 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73556 Visit malaysiakini.tv . Businessman KP Samy blasted Samy Vellu. Watch the video and enjoy how MIC President fits himself in the Indian community. Visit malaysiakini.tv . Businessman KP Samy blasted Samy Vellu. Watch the video and enjoy how MIC President fits himself in the Indian community.

]]> By: Anba http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-1/#comment-73553 Anba Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:30:42 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73553 Dropping Samy Vellu alone is not enough. His influence is deeply rooted among the MIC leaders and members. It may take another 4 years to totally root out his influence. For a good leader to emerge in MIC, all the 'bad apples' needs to be rooted out. Only then, a different kind of leader be given a chance to shine and really make a change for the community. May God bless Malaysia. Dropping Samy Vellu alone is not enough. His influence is deeply rooted among the MIC leaders and members. It may take another 4 years to totally root out his influence. For a good leader to emerge in MIC, all the ‘bad apples’ needs to be rooted out. Only then, a different kind of leader be given a chance to shine and really make a change for the community.

May God bless Malaysia.

]]> By: BlackEye http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-1/#comment-73543 BlackEye Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:16:59 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73543 Samy Vellu the next "Made in Senate" Minister as undergrad2 said is a possibility? Samy Vellu the next “Made in Senate” Minister as undergrad2 said is a possibility?

]]> By: Saint http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/comment-page-1/#comment-73520 Saint Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:13:59 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/30/samy-vellu-dropped-as-bn-candidate-in-next-general-election/#comment-73520 Samy was made corrupt by UNMO so that UMNO can marginalize the Malaysian Indians The same goes for MCA and Gerakan Moving out Samy and substituting Palnivel will make things worse Let Samy stay so that he, MIC and BN can be brought down The Indians have made up their mind. BN will loose Indian votes, what ever goodies given. Samy was made corrupt by UNMO
so that UMNO can marginalize the Malaysian Indians
The same goes for MCA and Gerakan
Moving out Samy and substituting Palnivel will make things worse
Let Samy stay so that he, MIC and BN can be brought down
The Indians have made up their mind.
BN will loose Indian votes, what ever goodies given.

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