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	<title>Comments on: Although case lost in Seremban High Court - let 74-yr-old Gan Eng Gor be the last &#8220;body-snatching&#8221;  in Malaysia!</title>
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		<title>By: yhsiew</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/29/although-case-lost-in-seremban-high-court-let-74-yr-old-gan-eng-gor-be-the-last-body-snatching-in-malaysia/#comment-83885</link>
		<dc:creator>yhsiew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By Malaysian law, if a person died as a Muslim and had non-Muslim sons or daughters, they would not be able to inherit their father's wealth and the wealth of the deceased would go to the Islamic authorities.  If the deceased was a tycoon or a mogul, the trillion ringgit wealth acquired by the authorities would probably cause the Bumi equity to exceed far in excess of 30% and would seriously upset the equity distribution formula.

I think our politicians should look into this foreseeable problem and get it solved.

It is unclear if the sons or daughters could inherit their father's wealth if they declare to be a Muslim after their father's death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Malaysian law, if a person died as a Muslim and had non-Muslim sons or daughters, they would not be able to inherit their father&#8217;s wealth and the wealth of the deceased would go to the Islamic authorities.  If the deceased was a tycoon or a mogul, the trillion ringgit wealth acquired by the authorities would probably cause the Bumi equity to exceed far in excess of 30% and would seriously upset the equity distribution formula.</p>
<p>I think our politicians should look into this foreseeable problem and get it solved.</p>
<p>It is unclear if the sons or daughters could inherit their father&#8217;s wealth if they declare to be a Muslim after their father&#8217;s death.</p>
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		<title>By: kaybeegee</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/29/although-case-lost-in-seremban-high-court-let-74-yr-old-gan-eng-gor-be-the-last-body-snatching-in-malaysia/#comment-74034</link>
		<dc:creator>kaybeegee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can somebody enlighten me. This has got to do with classification of Malayans and later Malaysians by ethnic origin or RACE.
Before 1957 or Formation of MALAYSIA.

Race in the birth ceritificate of a child follows the child's biological father. I was told Eurasian was a race created by the Europeans so that their offsprings did not follow the race of the biological father and they did not want their off springs with Asian women classified as Asian. But children of Asian men and European women are not Eurasians. Follow Biological father"s race.
Point: PAk Lah's grandfather was not Malay. Could not have been deemed to be Malay because the Constitution came about in 1957 and where Malay is defined.
So Pak Lah's grandfather they say is Chinese. Therefore it follows that a Chinese man's offspring (pre-definition of Constittutional Malay) should be Chinese irrespective of whether his wife is Malay, Chinese Indian Orang Asli the various races in Indonesia etc.
It was only after 1957 that those not Malay could claim to be Malay.

Now take Dr M. They say his father is Indian (albeit Indian Muslim, which is not a race in India). Dr M was born before 1957 before the constitutional definiton of Malay. 

So Pak Lah's grandfather's Male descendants follow his race until after 1957?
And Dr M's father's descendants follow his race too?
And UMNO bigots tell the non Malays to go back to China or India?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can somebody enlighten me. This has got to do with classification of Malayans and later Malaysians by ethnic origin or RACE.<br />
Before 1957 or Formation of MALAYSIA.</p>
<p>Race in the birth ceritificate of a child follows the child&#8217;s biological father. I was told Eurasian was a race created by the Europeans so that their offsprings did not follow the race of the biological father and they did not want their off springs with Asian women classified as Asian. But children of Asian men and European women are not Eurasians. Follow Biological father&#8221;s race.<br />
Point: PAk Lah&#8217;s grandfather was not Malay. Could not have been deemed to be Malay because the Constitution came about in 1957 and where Malay is defined.<br />
So Pak Lah&#8217;s grandfather they say is Chinese. Therefore it follows that a Chinese man&#8217;s offspring (pre-definition of Constittutional Malay) should be Chinese irrespective of whether his wife is Malay, Chinese Indian Orang Asli the various races in Indonesia etc.<br />
It was only after 1957 that those not Malay could claim to be Malay.</p>
<p>Now take Dr M. They say his father is Indian (albeit Indian Muslim, which is not a race in India). Dr M was born before 1957 before the constitutional definiton of Malay. </p>
<p>So Pak Lah&#8217;s grandfather&#8217;s Male descendants follow his race until after 1957?<br />
And Dr M&#8217;s father&#8217;s descendants follow his race too?<br />
And UMNO bigots tell the non Malays to go back to China or India?</p>
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		<title>By: melurian</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/29/although-case-lost-in-seremban-high-court-let-74-yr-old-gan-eng-gor-be-the-last-body-snatching-in-malaysia/#comment-73717</link>
		<dc:creator>melurian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heed Pak Lah, Malaysia is multi-racial and religious tolerant country living in peace and harmony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heed Pak Lah, Malaysia is multi-racial and religious tolerant country living in peace and harmony.</p>
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		<title>By: melurian</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/29/although-case-lost-in-seremban-high-court-let-74-yr-old-gan-eng-gor-be-the-last-body-snatching-in-malaysia/#comment-73714</link>
		<dc:creator>melurian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;"http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/90143.htm (Malaysia)
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/ (World)"&lt;/i&gt;

nazri will say &lt;b&gt;RUBBISH!!!&lt;/b&gt;.

semuanya ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/90143.htm (Malaysia)<br />
<a href="http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/" rel="nofollow">http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/</a> (World)&#8221;</i></p>
<p>nazri will say <b>RUBBISH!!!</b>.</p>
<p>semuanya ok.</p>
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		<title>By: sheriff singh</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/29/although-case-lost-in-seremban-high-court-let-74-yr-old-gan-eng-gor-be-the-last-body-snatching-in-malaysia/#comment-73495</link>
		<dc:creator>sheriff singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a muslim can inherit from a deceased muslim's estate. Non-muslims are excluded.

That's (Muslim's) Allah's law. They have to obey. Syariah Court cannot go against Allah's law in everything. So for muslims, no problems. Its fair to them. Never mind others.

Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a muslim can inherit from a deceased muslim&#8217;s estate. Non-muslims are excluded.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s (Muslim&#8217;s) Allah&#8217;s law. They have to obey. Syariah Court cannot go against Allah&#8217;s law in everything. So for muslims, no problems. Its fair to them. Never mind others.</p>
<p>Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: cheng on soo</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/29/although-case-lost-in-seremban-high-court-let-74-yr-old-gan-eng-gor-be-the-last-body-snatching-in-malaysia/#comment-73446</link>
		<dc:creator>cheng on soo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a non muslim cannot inherit from a muslim relative,then can a muslim inherit from a non muslim relative (say a brother who have no issue etc)?? 
Also, why a muslim can receive money etc from non muslim ppl or organization, (eg get scholarship, donation, or employment etc??) What a hipocracy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a non muslim cannot inherit from a muslim relative,then can a muslim inherit from a non muslim relative (say a brother who have no issue etc)??<br />
Also, why a muslim can receive money etc from non muslim ppl or organization, (eg get scholarship, donation, or employment etc??) What a hipocracy?</p>
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		<title>By: Malaysian</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/29/although-case-lost-in-seremban-high-court-let-74-yr-old-gan-eng-gor-be-the-last-body-snatching-in-malaysia/#comment-73434</link>
		<dc:creator>Malaysian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DO YOU THINK THE BODY SNATCHERS WOULD STILL SO SUPER "EFFICIENT" IF THE MONEY AND INHERITENCE ELEMENT HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DO YOU THINK THE BODY SNATCHERS WOULD STILL SO SUPER &#8220;EFFICIENT&#8221; IF THE MONEY AND INHERITENCE ELEMENT HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT?</p>
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		<title>By: Bigjoe</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/29/although-case-lost-in-seremban-high-court-let-74-yr-old-gan-eng-gor-be-the-last-body-snatching-in-malaysia/#comment-73399</link>
		<dc:creator>Bigjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 01:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>k1980 point to the real urgency of this issue. What if this body snatching happened to a Hindu now?  Someone saying they are Hindraf leaders send out an SMS and we could see violence in the streets.

This is nothing less than a systematic failure of our constitution and legal system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>k1980 point to the real urgency of this issue. What if this body snatching happened to a Hindu now?  Someone saying they are Hindraf leaders send out an SMS and we could see violence in the streets.</p>
<p>This is nothing less than a systematic failure of our constitution and legal system.</p>
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		<title>By: Tickler</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/29/although-case-lost-in-seremban-high-court-let-74-yr-old-gan-eng-gor-be-the-last-body-snatching-in-malaysia/#comment-73387</link>
		<dc:creator>Tickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wednesday January 30, 2008
Settlement is too low, mum of convert tells court
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 In her claim, Rukumony said the cooperative had taken out a policy on her son but refused to pay her the RM56,300 and instead deposited it with Amanah Raya. 

The cooperative said that under Syariah Law, Rukumony could not inherit the property of her deceased son because she is a non-Muslim.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/1/30/courts/20166330&#38;sec=courts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wednesday January 30, 2008<br />
Settlement is too low, mum of convert tells court<br />
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 In her claim, Rukumony said the cooperative had taken out a policy on her son but refused to pay her the RM56,300 and instead deposited it with Amanah Raya. </p>
<p>The cooperative said that under Syariah Law, Rukumony could not inherit the property of her deceased son because she is a non-Muslim.</p>
<p><a href="http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/1/30/courts/20166330&amp;sec=courts" rel="nofollow">http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/1/30/courts/20166330&amp;sec=courts</a></p>
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