If Anwar not a factor, why Abdullah cannot wait less than 2 months for next general election?


“Tell it to the marines” – that will be the common response to the statement by the Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi in CNN’s World News Asia telecast live from Davos, Switzerland yesterday that former deputy prime minister, Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim was not a factor in his decision on the timing of the next general election. (“Telling it to the marines” is the scornful response to a tall and unbelieved story/claim.)

Asserting that he was not pre-empting the former deputy prime minister from contesting the general election, Abdullah said:

“There are other factors in my mind that I have to think about before I recommend the dissolution of parliament and fix the date for the elections.”

If Anwar is not a factor in his calculations for the next polls, Abdullah should explain why he cannot wait less than two months to allow the former DPM to contest in the 12th general election?

Is it because Abdullah has been advised by his strategists and the Putrajaya fourth-storey advisers that the electoral prospects for the Barisan Nasional can only get worse and not better, especially if Anwar is allowed to participate personally in the hustings as a candidate?

The latest opinion poll should be a “shocker” for Abdullah and the Barisan Nasional leaders, as it found that the Prime Minister’s approval rating has hit a personal low, slipping from a high of 91 per cent when he took power in late 2003 to 61 per cent in December last month, the lowest since he took office in late 2003 and down by 10 percentage points from November.

The poll by market research firm Merdeka Center found that as the country gears up for early elections, voters were unhappy over rising prices, racial tensions and crime – issues which the DAP had been hammering over the past few months and years!

Abdullah’s statement “There are other factors in my mind that I have to think about before I recommend the dissolution of parliament and fix the date for the elections” is very wrong for another reason.

Under Malaysia’s system of parliamentary democracy, the Prime Minister has the sole discretion to decide when to recommend the dissolution of Parliament to the Yang di Pertuan Agong but once Parliament is dissolved, it is the constitutional duty of the Election Commission to conduct the general election, including the issue of the election writ and the fixing of the Nomination and Polling dates.

It is unconstitutional and gross abuse of power for the Prime Minister not only to recommend the date for the dissolution of Parliament, but also to fix dates for nomination and polling, in effect deciding on the length of the campaign period – which is the sole prerogative of the Election Commission!

Thus, when Abdullah told CNN interview that he had various factors to think about before he recommended “the dissolution of parliament and fix the date for the elections”, he was making a confession that in the 2004 general election, he had acted unconstitutionally and abused the powers of a Prime Minister in fixing the election dates of nomination and polling – providing the shortest election campaign period in the nation’s history – when this should be decided by the Election Commission without interference or directive from the Prime Minister!

Is Abdullah prepared to own up to his past unconstitutional action and abuses of power and fully respect the untrammeled right of the Election Commission to fix the dates for nomination and polling for the 2008 general election without any directive from the Putrajaya fourth storey?

It is clear that as far as Abdullah is concerned, the polling day for the next general election will be in the first half of March. March 15 was the favourite day as this was said to be recommended by his feng shui master.

The March 15 date will have to be ruled out however if Abdullah is serious about his announcement in Madrid last week when attending the First Alliance of Civilisations Annual Forum that he would be in Senegal to hand over the chairmanship of the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC) at the OIC Summit in Dakar on March 13-14.

On the other hand, this could be a ruse – as Abdullah could either request for a postponement of the OIC Summit or finally skip the OIC Summit on the ground of having a general election in Malaysia.

Be that as it may, there is no reason for Abdullah to act with such secrecy when he should be setting an example of “First World Infrastructure, First World Mentality” as Prime Ministers and Presidents of first-world developed nations give several months’ notice of the election day, and not like in Malaysia, where there is lightning notice for the shortest period for election campaign provided by an unfair and undemocratic election law.

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  1. #1 by Count Dracula on Sunday, 27 January 2008 - 2:39 am

    Hey Jong! Stop abusing others who are “without common sense” but who are not manipulative and devious in their ways.

  2. #2 by BlackEye on Sunday, 27 January 2008 - 6:32 am

    “We can have yellow shirts or t-shirts every Monday too. We can all take leave at the same day! Surely the authority can’t come to our house to arrest us for taking leave! It is a good idea really..” limkamput

    Then what message are you giving?? The message written across your T-shirts? We can do that anytime. Are you saying that the sight of people dressed in yellow T-shirts loitering around would send the same message as thousands of well organized protesters packing the streets listening to speeches? That’s dumb!

  3. #3 by LadyGodiva on Sunday, 27 January 2008 - 6:40 am

    Jong, let’s not have a cat fight with Count(ess) Dracula.

  4. #4 by Tickler on Sunday, 27 January 2008 - 8:51 am

    oknyua Says Yesterday at 18: 19.22

    `Tickler, David’s Wong opinion on Sabah and Sarawak might not be accurate. The last time I was in Kuching and Sibu, the general “coffee shop” dissatisfaction is very strong.`

    Well, then I find that encouraging. The Matzu issue probly is a factor there.

    `I don’t agree that the Oil Palm prices having major influence in the trend of voting.`

    Now that you mention it, you could well be right. The plantations are the beneficiaries. I`m not very much aware of the smallholders` position there. I think jeffooi did have something on the poverty there, despite high palmoil prices.

    Also, you have something on the `christian` element which could influence the votes wit the increasing `isalmisation` there. Here`s something new:

    Sabah school told to stop it
    24 January, 2008

    Kota Kinabalu: Sabah Education Director Puan Normah Gagoh said she has directed SMK Tansau, Penampang, to stop the gender segregation of students and revert to the original position of integration with immediate effect.
    http://www.dailyexpress.com.my/news.cfm?NewsID=55469

  5. #5 by Tickler on Sunday, 27 January 2008 - 8:54 am

    Meanwhile, today`s Sunday Times is trying to sell mumbo jumbo on how strong the M`sian economy is to win friends and influence voters. One can shoot holes through the PM`s and Finance Minister`exuberant announcements most easily. Whole lot of hogwash.

  6. #6 by i-am-malaysian on Sunday, 27 January 2008 - 10:11 am

    Our PM is no doubt in a bad shape now. Situation is just getting worse for him. Actually, the situation is kind of amusing, I should say. It shows that our government is being super-insecure in what they do. Now, I don’t think any of us would want an insecure government in power, do you?

    So, DAP and PKR, please stop concentrating on yapping too much about what BN is doing wrong. Instead, I strongly recommend reconciliation of policies between the opposition parties so that Malaysians could have an option of an equally-strong coalition of parties which could face UMNO. Right now, I should say that there is still chance for BN to win (after a hard struggle, of course). But if the oppositions team up to fight this neverending evil, I will 100% sure my vote (and a lot of others’ votes, too) goes to you. UMNaziO (Quote max2811 from earlier comment) SHOULD BE GIVEN A REAL HARD LESSON ON THE NEXT ELECTION.

    No time for coalition? Nope. I believe anything is possible. Look back 60 years ago when PKMM organized a nationwide general strike called Hartal (Youtube and Google “10 Tahun Sebelum Merdeka”) event opposing the Malayan Union. PKMM, PUTERA-AMCJA should be an inspiration for the opposition parties fighting UMNO now, just like how PKMM was against Pro-British-UMNO in their proposal for the Malaysian Federation. The super-huge Hartal was planned, publicized within just a few weeks and yet Hartal was successful because of the solidarity of Malaysians during that time, regardless of race. But unfortunately, these left-wing (anti-British) leaders got arrested (UMNO never changed) and insecure British put it’s puppet UMNO ito power.

    I am a Malay myself and I can’t wait for the day when Malaysians stand up together against corrupted UMNO one more time, just like how they did 60 years ago. Malaysians are matured enough to no longer have this kind of dictator-like leadership.

    So, again, I have to say that Malaysians today need an equally-strong coalition of parties as an option. Or else, most likely UMNaziO will win again and continue it’s power abuse for another five years, and I definitely do not want to see that happening.

  7. #7 by Tickler on Sunday, 27 January 2008 - 12:36 pm

    Taipei Times:
    Gan Hock Sin, another son of the dead man, said the family did not go to the Shariah court because they felt it was unfair to hold the case there.

    “It’s not fair for us. I don’t know how they say he converted. My father couldn’t even talk [before his death],” Gan said.

    “Unfortunately we feel the way they do [these conversions] is not fair for non-Muslim people. The government should be more transparent,” he said.

    He said the police had seized the body when the family was carrying out Buddhist rites in a Chinese funeral parlor.

    The family had asked the state’s civil High Court to hear the case, but a judge ruled he had no jurisdiction in the matter as the Shariah court had already made a decision, said a court official, who declined to be named.
    http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2008/01/26/2003398907

  8. #8 by limkamput on Sunday, 27 January 2008 - 12:45 pm

    “Are you saying that the sight of people dressed in yellow T-shirts loitering around would send the same message as thousands of well organized protesters packing the streets listening to speeches? That’s dumb!” BlackEye

    For children and adults with a child-like mind, we probably have to be more explicit and demonstrative because they can’t see unless certain things are clearly shown to them. Hence, for example, if we want to protest against the government, these people must see actual demonstrations and speeches made during the demonstrations. May be they even want to see some tyres burnt on the street. Anything less than that, they will have a mental block. But if we are normal human beings with average intelligence, I think we should be able to see the nuances and subtlety of things we want to do and this includes protesting our displeasure against the government.

    Another word for people who can’t see subtlety is dumb.

  9. #9 by cheng on soo on Sunday, 27 January 2008 - 12:46 pm

    Anwar, only a very small factor lah! But “naik harga” is a big factor, GE must be held soonest so that they can “naik harga” soonest.

  10. #10 by limkamput on Sunday, 27 January 2008 - 12:46 pm

    Hmmm, Count(ess) Dracula Dracula, that is a good one! “Women are devious and manipulative”? Come on Dracula, don’t insult your mother and sisters.

    Let me repeat: There are no stupid questions and there are no stupid answers. Lots of lies are told in silence; lots of truths are told in insinuation. Those who think questions and answers are obviously stupid are probably the most stupid people.

  11. #11 by alaneth on Sunday, 27 January 2008 - 1:58 pm

    Around the world…

    Politics is Dirty,
    Elections are Filthy,
    No Politicians are Trustworthy,
    Everything bears down to Money,

    But the rakyat stand to benefit from being the ‘King-Maker’….. every 5 years we demand for this & that and mostly get it. Every 5 years we get a good budget, tax-cuts, incentives, new roads etc etc… Just make the best out of it, get everything the govt has to offer near the elections, hold the BN flag high in front of them, say you support them so build a new road, new school for you & then
    vote DAP. Your vote is secret right???

  12. #12 by LadyGodiva on Sunday, 27 January 2008 - 9:05 pm

    “Women are devious and manipulative”? Come on Dracula, don’t insult your mother and sisters.”

    Lim,

    When something is spoken in humour you must accept it as just that. Is it anybody’s fault if you lack the sense of humor. If he really meant that he wouldn’t be coming out screaming!

    I’m a woman and I’m not insulted by that comment.

  13. #13 by LadyGodiva on Sunday, 27 January 2008 - 9:14 pm

    “And despite whatever he said about UMNO, Dr Mahathir, he should not forget that he was in the very same govt now he condemned. And Abdullah Badawi is right by saying Anwar as a non factor.” shamshul

    Anwar’s worst enemy is himself. How could he distance himself from the ghost of his former self? Perhaps never.

    Perhaps we’re asking the wrong question. Perhaps the right question ought to be “How do we use politicians like him as a catalyst for ‘change’? He provides us with the vehicle that could be used to spearhead ‘change’ and let’s take advantage of it. We don’t need to believe the pilot but just another pilot to keep him on the flight plan that was filed earlier.

  14. #14 by Jong on Sunday, 27 January 2008 - 11:30 pm

    “Jong, let’s not have a cat fight with Count(ess) Dracula” – LadyGodiva

    LadyGodiva, thanks for the concern. Don’t worry that’s not my style and I’m never lack of good sense of humor. There’s a saying by Plato: :D

    “Wisemen talk because they have something to
    say; fools because they have to say something”

  15. #15 by limkamput on Monday, 28 January 2008 - 12:19 am

    LadyGovida, it is fair enough. It was not supposed to be this way, but I have a long history with Dracula and a few others. They have been constantly harassing me so I just want to rattle him a bit. You may want to read some of comments they made against me.

  16. #16 by LadyGodiva on Monday, 28 January 2008 - 12:28 am

    I am not interested.

    But I believe in Jong’s

    “Wisemen talk because they have something to
    say; fools because they have to say something”

    which I think applies to you!

  17. #17 by Jong on Monday, 28 January 2008 - 12:49 am

    Don’t start it LadyGodiva, this wiseman talks and he says things, rattle and throttle! :D :D

  18. #18 by LadyGodiva on Monday, 28 January 2008 - 1:08 am

    True. I will take your advice and zip it! Thanks.

  19. #19 by undergrad2 on Monday, 28 January 2008 - 3:17 am

    Jong, you spilled the beans and now limkamput has lost his marbles all over the threads.

  20. #20 by i-am-malaysian on Monday, 28 January 2008 - 6:34 am

    limkaput, i agree with you 100% when u said that no question is stupid… If someone asks a question, they should at least have a reason for asking – anyone have the right to ask even when they already knew the answer.. But answers, I think some of them could be really stupid sometimes. If you don’t believe me, go and ask some questions to our current PM and he will give you a few good examples..

    But i don’t agree when you added something to that by saying “Those who think questions and answers are obviously stupid are probably the most stupid people”.. No wonder Dracula is mad at you, dude.. Next time, the best thing you could do might be just to ignore him..

  21. #21 by Colonel on Monday, 28 January 2008 - 7:33 am

    What the Count meant was that it appears stupid (unless it was meant to be a rhetorical question which it wasn’t) to be asking the PM if Anwar Ibrahim is a factor because everybody knows Anwar is a factor which is why he is having the general elections earlier rather than later.

  22. #22 by Colonel on Monday, 28 January 2008 - 7:34 am

    It is then twisted by our limkamput so he could unload his tirade as he has been doing for a while now.

  23. #23 by Colonel on Monday, 28 January 2008 - 7:37 am

    Here’s what he said:

    “To ask the PM as to whether Anwar would be “a factor” is as stupid as his response. Why do they bother to ask him…”

  24. #24 by undergrad2 on Monday, 28 January 2008 - 9:13 am

    Colonel, regulars here know about limkamput. Like Jong said earlier:

    “Don’t start it LadyGodiva, this wiseman talks and he says things, rattle and throttle! :D :D

  25. #25 by Jong on Monday, 28 January 2008 - 10:51 am

    oh..oh I’m in trouble, oh goodness graciious me!

    OK to serious discussion. Didn’t you guys notice that the PM in Davos interview, had all his answers memorised expecting to be asked along those lines ?
    Applying same answers to different questions, he ended confusing not only himself but everyone listening to him as well!

  26. #26 by Jong on Monday, 28 January 2008 - 11:08 am

    “Anwar a Factor” – Yep, we all know he’s a liar and a coward like his whole lot of BN followers, what else?!

    Meanwhile back home his No.2 had been making ‘staccato calls’ attacking Anwar Ibrahim the defacto leader of PKR and has anybody noticed, they have so far left DAP alone? See the fear for Anwar in them? The fear that Anwar is able to reach out to the Malay hinterland voters which they had always confidently think DAP is incapable of doing so because they play the ‘racial card’.

    Well well that evil serpent No.2 will have his day to be rattled and throttled, just wait for Altantuya ghost to put him to sleep.

  27. #27 by Jeffrey on Monday, 28 January 2008 - 11:56 am

    Is Anwar a factor? – is that a stupid question as in a question with an obvious answer?

    But is the answer so obvious?

    It is obvious only if one thinks Anwar is key opposition leader and if election held after expiry of his disqualification date he can stand for election and make a difference. But would it make a difference considering even if election is before the expiry of his disqualification, there’s nothing to stop Anwar from campaigning for PKR/Opposition to effect same results, field his proxy/nominee candidate, wins the seat and after the expiry of Anwar’s disqualification date, resigns to pave the way for a by-election for Anwar to contest and win that particular seat: from this perspective, what’s the material difference that makes the question “Is Anwar a factor?” so critical or Anwar factor so important in determining the polling date for GE or the answer so obvious?

    Deviousness and manipulativeness is not insulting : one needs intelligence to be so. I always say women’s demand for equality is but only a concession to men who often think they are smarter and above women and condescend to help women bring women up to equal level , a game women in their “deviousness and manipulativeness” gleefully play along, not wanting the racket to be exposed! .

    If you look around the world today including here, the men mess up the politics.

    If “women are devious and manipulative” and “better understand these things” I am all for more devious and manipulative women to enter politics and run the governments and the world that men with all the aggressiveness and ego (more testosterone) have proven to have messed up terribly. :)

  28. #28 by limkamput on Monday, 28 January 2008 - 12:12 pm

    I-am-Malaysian says: But answers, I think some of them could be really stupid sometimes. If you don’t believe me, go and ask some questions to our current PM and he will give you a few good examples..

    The PM is not as stupid as we generally think. He is crafty and savvy. If he is not, I think he got enough advisors to guide him what to say and how to say.
    When a question was asked of him, he most probably already knew the answer one was looking for. So he would give you an answer other than the one you were looking for. It was all part of the game. To answer truthfully, he is actually indicting himself. So, he is not stupid. He is capitalising on our docile press and submissive society. He can say what he wants to say, stupid as it seems, but there is not a damn thing you can do about it. That is the issue.

  29. #29 by Loh on Monday, 28 January 2008 - 1:54 pm

    ///But would it make a difference considering even if election is before the expiry of his disqualification, there’s nothing to stop Anwar from campaigning for PKR/Opposition to effect same results, field his proxy/nominee candidate, wins the seat and after the expiry of Anwar’s disqualification date, resigns to pave the way for a by-election for Anwar to contest and win that particular seat:///–Jeffrey

    The big difference is if Anwar is allowed to stand, he can stand against AAB in his constitency. AAB would not even allow contest for the position of UMNO presidency, when he should not lose, with hundreds of million ringgit of government funds ending up as pocket money for UMNO division chiefs. AAB dares not face Anwar in the GE. It is AAB who decides, and it is AAB’s personal interest that comes first.

    Is Anwar a factor? NO, if that means other matters are taken into consideration for choosing the date of GE. Anwar was the reason for the timing.

  30. #30 by Jong on Monday, 28 January 2008 - 2:07 pm

    “If you look around the world today including here, the men mess up the politics.

    If “women are devious and manipulative” and “better understand these things” I am all for more devious and manipulative women to enter politics and run the governments and the world that men with all the aggressiveness and ego (more testosterone) have proven to have messed up terribly. ” – Jeffrey

    ummmm, did you read that Dracula? ..see what this wise guy has to say! :D

  31. #31 by Jeffrey on Monday, 28 January 2008 - 10:49 pm

    Thanks Loh for your comments at 13: 54.04 above which are noted with interest. As a matter of curiosity, are we all certain that if allowed to contest, Anwar would have no qualms and reservations on taking on AAB directly in his constituency? Is there any news report or anything heard from anywhere that Anwar intends to do this (assuming election were held after the expiry of his electoral disqualification)?

  32. #32 by DarkHorse on Tuesday, 29 January 2008 - 1:26 am

    I’m sorry to report the passing of Count Dracula. He got a stake driven through his heart and now rests in pieces.

  33. #33 by ktteokt on Tuesday, 29 January 2008 - 9:53 pm

    I totally agree with Jeffrey’s views. This action by AAB to hold the elections before DSAI qualifies for elections is actually LP and PL stuff!!!!

  34. #34 by shamshul anuar on Tuesday, 29 January 2008 - 10:37 pm

    Dear Readers,

    I refer to discussion with regards to whether Anwar is a factor in the coming election. If you ask any Malay, the answer would be no.

    The reason is very simple. No Malay trusts him anymore after his “dalliance” with a political party that Malays consider having a very anti-Malay attitude. In other words, he has beome an ally of a political party that Malays considers as a threat to their interest.

    As for Anwar’s claiming corruption, well I hope he does not forget how he won against Ghaffar Baba in 1993.

  35. #35 by Loh on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 3:09 am

    Anwar does not have to indicate an interest. But the possibility of being challenged by Anwar was enough for AAB to take all steps to prevent it. Malays do not vote as one, otherwise PAS will have been wiped out long ago. So the claim that ‘no Malays trust him anymore’ might be true among the UMNO Malays. But if Anwar faces AAB in the GE, some UMNO members would be happy to pay for AAB to lose. AAB certainly cannot appoint himself senator to remain PM. The son-in-law might claim that he inherits the position but would others recognize him in that event?

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