Comments on: A frustrated government scholar-blogger http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 05:16:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: lgseng http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-182605 lgseng Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:39:05 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-182605 I am writing on behalf of my sister ( a Malaysian) married to an Italian man. Due to some health problems of my brother-in-law in Thailand, my sister had to give birth in Bangkok, Thailand. My sister went to the Malaysian Embassy to register her baby daughter's but the officials in the Malaysian Embassy refused to register and issued her a passportfor her baby. They tell her off by saying" why can't you married a Malaysian?" "Go and ask Italian Embassy to issue you a passport."That is a very irresponsible answer. Who my sister want to marry is non of their business. Later we discover that Malaysian man married a foreign lady, can register their baby and obtain a passport even if they gave birth in a foreign country. This is a total absurd, discriminating Malaysian ladies. They (Malaysian ladies ) are not eligible to register their child as a Malaysian even though their status is a Malaysian. I see that Malaysian goverment do not recognize women's right, superficially yes, in reality no. I am writing on behalf of my sister ( a Malaysian) married to an Italian man. Due to some health problems of my brother-in-law in Thailand, my sister had to give birth in Bangkok, Thailand. My sister went to the Malaysian Embassy to register her baby daughter’s but the officials in the Malaysian Embassy refused to register and issued her a passportfor her baby. They tell her off by saying” why can’t you married a Malaysian?” “Go and ask Italian Embassy to issue you a passport.”That is a very irresponsible answer. Who my sister want to marry is non of their business.

Later we discover that Malaysian man married a foreign lady, can register their baby and obtain a passport even if they gave birth in a foreign country.

This is a total absurd, discriminating Malaysian ladies. They (Malaysian ladies ) are not eligible to register their child as a Malaysian even though their status is a Malaysian.

I see that Malaysian goverment do not recognize women’s right, superficially yes, in reality no.

]]> By: lopez http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-109883 lopez Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:29:46 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-109883 Feudal ways can only dealt by fuedal ways it has been a looooong looong day since 1972...you see what is publish in their sportsletter or journal , it is freely distributed in the departments. Very educational of the unconventional and uncontemporary ways. Self declared specialist opine as if knows all with only one reference. Feudal ways can only dealt by fuedal ways

it has been a looooong looong day since 1972…you see what is publish in their sportsletter or journal , it is freely distributed in the departments.

Very educational of the unconventional and uncontemporary ways.

Self declared specialist opine as if knows all with only one reference.

]]> By: cheng http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-72888 cheng Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:09:41 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-72888 While we are all fighting for a cause and basically on the same ship, I would say this frustrated blogger and the friend are stupid. By the way, like it or not, I think JPA scholarship is a joke. If our universities are "Boleh!", please get these people to study locally. Do a check and see how many of them are really "contributing" to the country today. Sending students overseas is not something new. The Qing Dynasty starting from Year 11 of the Tongzhi period, also sent students to study in the United States. Not going to elaborate more, I will update my blog on this. While we are all fighting for a cause and basically on the same ship, I would say this frustrated blogger and the friend are stupid. By the way, like it or not, I think JPA scholarship is a joke. If our universities are “Boleh!”, please get these people to study locally. Do a check and see how many of them are really “contributing” to the country today.

Sending students overseas is not something new. The Qing Dynasty starting from Year 11 of the Tongzhi period, also sent students to study in the United States. Not going to elaborate more, I will update my blog on this.

]]> By: A frustrated government scholar « Aiyoo! http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-72875 A frustrated government scholar « Aiyoo! Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:22:16 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-72875 [...] frustrated government scholar A frustrated government scholar. Read the article om Lim Kit Siang’s blog. Two things ran thru my mind - heck you [...] [...] frustrated government scholar A frustrated government scholar. Read the article om Lim Kit Siang’s blog. Two things ran thru my mind – heck you [...]

]]> By: seals http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-72631 seals Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:32:26 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-72631 I think we should have bloggers forums so that we in a group can engage lawyers and defend us. I think we should have bloggers forums so that we in a group can engage lawyers and defend us.

]]> By: shortie kiasu http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-72483 shortie kiasu Sat, 26 Jan 2008 02:54:50 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-72483 "She is a blogger herself, and apparently she went ‘over-the-line’ by attacking senior lecturers and institution administration on her blog." If anyone, and for that matter, not to mention the scholarship holders, has gone overboard to attack someone in their blogs, then they have to be prepared to be responsible enough to face the consequence. In this case, we do not understanding the underlying problems of the bloggers, but as admmitted, they had gone "over the line" to "attack" the senior lecturers. Probably the JPA scholars bloggers will now have to get ready lawyers to defend for them. It may be a hard lesson to learn that the real world out there is harsh and tough. No one can hide behind anomymity hoping to get away. “She is a blogger herself, and apparently she went ‘over-the-line’ by attacking senior lecturers and institution administration on her blog.”

If anyone, and for that matter, not to mention the scholarship holders, has gone overboard to attack someone in their blogs, then they have to be prepared to be responsible enough to face the consequence.

In this case, we do not understanding the underlying problems of the bloggers, but as admmitted, they had gone “over the line” to “attack” the senior lecturers. Probably the JPA scholars bloggers will now have to get ready lawyers to defend for them.

It may be a hard lesson to learn that the real world out there is harsh and tough. No one can hide behind anomymity hoping to get away.

]]> By: mendela http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-72436 mendela Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:42:05 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-72436 To side track, earlier blogger Plaintruth said that //How would one previal and compete in the international academic and practical science forum when the student has to take the compulsary subject of “Islamic influcence of science in Asia” in UKM? // Is this true? To side track, earlier blogger Plaintruth said that //How would one previal and compete in the international academic and practical science forum when the student has to take the compulsary subject of “Islamic influcence of science in Asia” in UKM? //

Is this true?

]]> By: kritikus http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-72410 kritikus Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:28:53 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-72410 ABRAHAM LINCOLN WALKED MILES TO FULFILL HIS DESIRE IN EDUCATION. WHAT IS STOPPING YOU?????????? ABRAHAM LINCOLN WALKED MILES TO FULFILL HIS DESIRE IN EDUCATION.

WHAT IS STOPPING YOU??????????

]]> By: U32 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-72408 U32 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:24:27 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-72408 It is so very expensive to study in local universities. It is so very expensive to study in local universities.

]]> By: kritikus http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-72406 kritikus Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:08:59 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-72406 BERANI KERANA BENAR TRUTH MAYBE BITTER BUT EVENTUALLY PREVAILS BOTTLING UP TRUTHS WILL NOT SOLVE ANYTHING, LEST IT WILL ONE DAY EXPLODE .......NASTY SITUATION IF YOU POSSESS ACADEMIC CREDENTIALS WHY FEAR, THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES, ITS A WIDE, WIDE, WIDE WORLD. IF A MAGGOT CAN SURVIVE IN BARE ROCKS, SO CAN YOU USE YOUR GOD GIVEN INTELLIGENCE AND SHREWDNESS AND GOD GIVEN SURVIVAL TACTICS. IT IS NOT A MANDATORY DEATH SENTENCE. BE STEADFAST AND KEEP UP THE CHALLENGING SPIRIT. PHILOSOPHER BERANI KERANA BENAR

TRUTH MAYBE BITTER BUT EVENTUALLY PREVAILS

BOTTLING UP TRUTHS WILL NOT SOLVE ANYTHING, LEST IT WILL ONE DAY EXPLODE …….NASTY SITUATION

IF YOU POSSESS ACADEMIC CREDENTIALS WHY FEAR, THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES, ITS A WIDE, WIDE, WIDE WORLD.

IF A MAGGOT CAN SURVIVE IN BARE ROCKS, SO CAN YOU

USE YOUR GOD GIVEN INTELLIGENCE AND SHREWDNESS AND GOD GIVEN SURVIVAL TACTICS. IT IS NOT A MANDATORY DEATH SENTENCE.

BE STEADFAST AND KEEP UP THE CHALLENGING SPIRIT.

PHILOSOPHER

]]> By: disapointed86 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-72390 disapointed86 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:14:26 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-72390 hmm..i understand the situation...but in this "Boleh Land" since you got the government scholarship..just keep quiet until u finish your study.. no point cos you said you're from a middle or low background family...the government officer nowadays are very nasty..just take care hmm..i understand the situation…but in this “Boleh Land” since you got the government scholarship..just keep quiet until u finish your study.. no point cos you said you’re from a middle or low background family…the government officer nowadays are very nasty..just take care

]]> By: Bigjoe http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-72385 Bigjoe Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:29:56 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-72385 Since we are talking about liberties, I thought I point to a great video of a conversation on libertarianism http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCM_wQy4YVg It was held at Google. The thing about it we could never have such discussion in any company or place you work in. So think of your deprived liberties. Since we are talking about liberties, I thought I point to a great video of a conversation on libertarianism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCM_wQy4YVg

It was held at Google. The thing about it we could never have such discussion in any company or place you work in. So think of your deprived liberties.

]]> By: fengzai http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-72343 fengzai Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:11:11 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-72343 Is blogging anonymously the only solution to the problem? Must we 'go underground' and 'bid our time' while the government continues to turn a blind eye to the concerns of the everyday citizens? If the youth are given no opportunities to think, no chance to question the wrong, and no space to grow into responsible leaders, then who's fault is it when we become adults devoid of imagination and the will to see change through? Is blogging anonymously the only solution to the problem? Must we ‘go underground’ and ‘bid our time’ while the government continues to turn a blind eye to the concerns of the everyday citizens?

If the youth are given no opportunities to think, no chance to question the wrong, and no space to grow into responsible leaders, then who’s fault is it when we become adults devoid of imagination and the will to see change through?

]]> By: Libra2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-72336 Libra2 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:39:03 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-72336 We have to understand the Malay psyche which springs from a feudal mindset. UMNO has imposed upon the Malays that the party is a protector of the Malays and in return they must give it unquestioning loyalty. How often have the Malays been told to be grateful to the government. There were times when those who opposed the government were castigated for 'biting the hands that feed you'. Mind you, they have to grateful to BN for given building a kampong bridge over a drain or a laterite road! This psyche has spread to all institutions - school, universities and even the judiciary. Ask any civil servant about the proceeding at any meeting. Not a single subordinate will criticise his boss for to do so will land in in his boss' bad book and thus loss in promotions or even a transfer out of town. Students are told not to 'think' but just study. When they see a poor community, they are not supposed to ask the government why they are poor. We have to understand the Malay psyche which springs from a feudal mindset.
UMNO has imposed upon the Malays that the party is a protector of the Malays and in return they must give it unquestioning loyalty.
How often have the Malays been told to be grateful to the government. There were times when those who opposed the government were castigated for ‘biting the hands that feed you’.
Mind you, they have to grateful to BN for given building a kampong bridge over a drain or a laterite road!
This psyche has spread to all institutions – school, universities and even the judiciary.
Ask any civil servant about the proceeding at any meeting. Not a single subordinate will criticise his boss for to do so will land in in his boss’ bad book and thus loss in promotions or even a transfer out of town.
Students are told not to ‘think’ but just study. When they see a poor community, they are not supposed to ask the government why they are poor.

]]> By: People http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-72329 People Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:53:23 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-72329 To comment on gov policies, admin etc does not mean to revolt against the gov. Some past PMs have also criticize their own administration. Should look and hear things in a bigger picture. To comment on gov policies, admin etc does not mean to revolt against the gov. Some past PMs have also criticize their own administration. Should look and hear things in a bigger picture.

]]> By: Jimm http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-72318 Jimm Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:11:27 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-72318 Truth hurts .... We, Malaysian have been living in a huge blanket of lies and mega corruption that turning back to the right path is impossible. Everyone in the top level including those within the monachy structure also involved directly or in-directly in the national scandal of wealth. Our racism issue are just put up for all Malaysian to argue about and keep them busy. There are no end to this subject and only waste of time and monies to put things into proscpective for harmonisation of all Malaysian. While everyone is busy 'fighting' for their birth rights, these bunch of people are swindling away our country wealth, shared among themselves and at the same time, instigated more racism issues to keep Malaysia on that treadmill. Who is a fool here ??? Not them ... we .. correct. We talk so much each day about changes and changes yet failed to make that decision to act on it. Our dear life is very important and as selfish as anyone would , we'll wait for someone to lead ... sampai bilapun ..tak nampak. As for all these waitings , those people continue to laugh at us .. NATO ... As for education system, you are provide the basic survival skill only .. read, count, draw ... lack of critical thinking .. do homework do homework until you have nightmares .. after leaving school , never ever touches books .. at the end of everything, it's not government problem .. A piece of advice, go underground to fight for your right is common yet you still need to be careful ... Focus on your education at this level with a good critical thinking mind first ... Malaysia can wait for you when you completed your destiny in education .. Truth hurts ….
We, Malaysian have been living in a huge blanket of lies and mega corruption that turning back to the right path is impossible.
Everyone in the top level including those within the monachy structure also involved directly or in-directly in the national scandal of wealth.
Our racism issue are just put up for all Malaysian to argue about and keep them busy. There are no end to this subject and only waste of time and monies to put things into proscpective for harmonisation of all Malaysian. While everyone is busy ‘fighting’ for their birth rights, these bunch of people are swindling away our country wealth, shared among themselves and at the same time, instigated more racism issues to keep Malaysia on that treadmill.
Who is a fool here ??? Not them … we .. correct.
We talk so much each day about changes and changes yet failed to make that decision to act on it.
Our dear life is very important and as selfish as anyone would , we’ll wait for someone to lead … sampai bilapun ..tak nampak.
As for all these waitings , those people continue to laugh at us ..
NATO …
As for education system, you are provide the basic survival skill only .. read, count, draw … lack of critical thinking ..
do homework do homework until you have nightmares ..
after leaving school , never ever touches books ..
at the end of everything, it’s not government problem ..
A piece of advice, go underground to fight for your right is common yet you still need to be careful …
Focus on your education at this level with a good critical thinking mind first … Malaysia can wait for you when you completed your destiny in education ..

]]> By: malaysia_mana_boleh http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-72313 malaysia_mana_boleh Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:09:45 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-72313 I must say your friend is a real sore-high. If you need other people's help do you go and spit at them and say please help me? Why are our local uni students so stupid one???? I must say your friend is a real sore-high.

If you need other people’s help do you go and spit at them and say please help me?

Why are our local uni students so stupid one????

]]> By: malaysia_mana_boleh http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-72312 malaysia_mana_boleh Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:06:37 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-72312 You do not bite the hand that feeds you lar Stupid !!!! You do not bite the hand that feeds you lar Stupid !!!!

]]> By: Bigjoe http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-72311 Bigjoe Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:04:30 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-72311 I see this as fundamentally about student voice in political and social issues. Traditionally Asian countries are scared of student voice in politics because students have been major revolutions. The communist were very successful in harnessing students. Even in Malaysia, we have tradition starting with Anwar who started his base with students and many UMNO leaders and more so in UMNO youth started being political as students. Even today famous SIL studied political science and now DPM. The other problem is student politics also make governing in schools more challenging especially given the mediocre standards of schools. Frankly, if you allow students to criticize freely given the challenges faced by school administrators, policy makers, few would take the job. Hissamuddin and Mustpha Mohammad would quit themselves. So the problem really lies the mediocrity of our schools, the more mediocre our schools, the less room it is to allow for student criticism and active participation. If our schools were places of excellence, the problem would actually be apathy of students to participate because they would be more inclined to chase selfish excellence. So the paranoia against students is in part historical which is less relevant today and partly real insecurities about mediocrities. The complexity is why not many cares and can identify with. I see this as fundamentally about student voice in political and social issues. Traditionally Asian countries are scared of student voice in politics because students have been major revolutions. The communist were very successful in harnessing students. Even in Malaysia, we have tradition starting with Anwar who started his base with students and many UMNO leaders and more so in UMNO youth started being political as students. Even today famous SIL studied political science and now DPM.

The other problem is student politics also make governing in schools more challenging especially given the mediocre standards of schools. Frankly, if you allow students to criticize freely given the challenges faced by school administrators, policy makers, few would take the job. Hissamuddin and Mustpha Mohammad would quit themselves.

So the problem really lies the mediocrity of our schools, the more mediocre our schools, the less room it is to allow for student criticism and active participation. If our schools were places of excellence, the problem would actually be apathy of students to participate because they would be more inclined to chase selfish excellence.

So the paranoia against students is in part historical which is less relevant today and partly real insecurities about mediocrities. The complexity is why not many cares and can identify with.

]]> By: oknyua http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-72306 oknyua Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:45:23 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/25/a-frustrated-goverment-scholar-blogger/#comment-72306 Dear frustrated student. In my student days I was somewhat a student leader too. I protested against gov’t annexation of famer’s land in Kuala Selangor, but above all I was often the spokesman for poor Bumiputera students who were not given gov’t grant, scholarship or loan. I wrote letters to political parties (just like what you do now) and the newspapers too. There is no defining line of what is (was) right or wrong. Looking back I was biting issues bigger than what I could swallow. Maybe that is happening to you, but I answered for myself. I took the pain and the reprisals alone. If you go by the Agreement you signed, you can always fight on all the fine lines. This blog is represented by many fine legal people. But always remember that you could win you case, yet you might lose your opportunity. As the joke says, “the operation was successful, but the patient died.” You might be right but being “dead” leaves you with more challenging times ahead. And you are still in your 20s. I gave a similar advice to one young man I met in a plane and he said, “You talk just like my father.” Keep your focus right. Dear frustrated student.
In my student days I was somewhat a student leader too. I protested against gov’t annexation of famer’s land in Kuala Selangor, but above all I was often the spokesman for poor Bumiputera students who were not given gov’t grant, scholarship or loan. I wrote letters to political parties (just like what you do now) and the newspapers too.

There is no defining line of what is (was) right or wrong. Looking back I was biting issues bigger than what I could swallow. Maybe that is happening to you, but I answered for myself. I took the pain and the reprisals alone.

If you go by the Agreement you signed, you can always fight on all the fine lines. This blog is represented by many fine legal people. But always remember that you could win you case, yet you might lose your opportunity. As the joke says, “the operation was successful, but the patient died.” You might be right but being “dead” leaves you with more challenging times ahead. And you are still in your 20s.
I gave a similar advice to one young man I met in a plane and he said, “You talk just like my father.” Keep your focus right.

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