Comments on: Abdullah - declare Wednesday January 23 as first Thaipusam national public holiday http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/ for Malaysia Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:58:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: U32 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/#comment-71785 U32 Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:10:49 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/#comment-71785 Scoreboard reads: Hindraf 1 Barisan Nasional 0 Scoreboard reads:

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]]> By: malaysiatoday.com http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/#comment-71635 malaysiatoday.com Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:47:17 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/#comment-71635 Thaipusam is only celebrated by 7% of Malaysians, YB Lim's suggestion to make it a national holiday is too much. I disagree because Malaysia is already one of the most holiday days nation in the world. Thaipusam is only celebrated by 7% of Malaysians, YB Lim’s suggestion to make it a national holiday is too much.

I disagree because Malaysia is already one of the most holiday days nation in the world.

]]> By: undergrad2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/#comment-71536 undergrad2 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:56:51 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/#comment-71536 "...with the Thaipusam being declared a Public Holiday and many people converging to Batu Caves for religioius worship, police will no longer have any grounds to stop and search..." dranony The police in Malaysia could legally search your house, stop and search your person and your car anytime they feel it their duty and need to do so - and there's nothing much you can do about it. No warrant is needed to enter and search your house. No reasonable cause is required before they could stop you and search. U.K. is not much better. Unlike in the U.S. where the police would need a search 'warrant' to search your house, and 'reasonable cause' to stop you in your car and conduct a search. Even to search your person, they must first have 'reasonable cause'. So if you think Malaysian police would need reasonable cause before they could do a stop and search, then you're wrong. They don't. “…with the Thaipusam being declared a Public Holiday and many people converging to Batu Caves for religioius worship, police will no longer have any grounds to stop and search…” dranony

The police in Malaysia could legally search your house, stop and search your person and your car anytime they feel it their duty and need to do so - and there’s nothing much you can do about it. No warrant is needed to enter and search your house. No reasonable cause is required before they could stop you and search.

U.K. is not much better.

Unlike in the U.S. where the police would need a search ‘warrant’ to search your house, and ‘reasonable cause’ to stop you in your car and conduct a search. Even to search your person, they must first have ‘reasonable cause’.

So if you think Malaysian police would need reasonable cause before they could do a stop and search, then you’re wrong. They don’t.

]]> By: dranony http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/#comment-71425 dranony Mon, 21 Jan 2008 03:28:03 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/#comment-71425 I'm not advocating anything, as I'd written clearly. Just that I foresee a possibility of an occurence of an event. What I meant was that, compared to Nov 25, 2007 (when the police could actually search cars and hinder people from entering KL and converging at a particular place), with the Thaipusam being declared a Public Holiday and many people converging to Batu Caves for religioius worship, police will no longer have any grounds to stop and search, or hinder people from converging at a particular point, ie Batu Caves. I foresee that Hindraf might use this opportunity to use Batu Caves during Thaipusam as a convergence point, all handed to Hindraf on a platter by none other than Abdullah Badawi himself. I’m not advocating anything, as I’d written clearly. Just that I foresee a possibility of an occurence of an event.
What I meant was that, compared to Nov 25, 2007 (when the police could actually search cars and hinder people from entering KL and converging at a particular place), with the Thaipusam being declared a Public Holiday and many people converging to Batu Caves for religioius worship, police will no longer have any grounds to stop and search, or hinder people from converging at a particular point, ie Batu Caves.
I foresee that Hindraf might use this opportunity to use Batu Caves during Thaipusam as a convergence point, all handed to Hindraf on a platter by none other than Abdullah Badawi himself.

]]> By: DarkHorse http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/#comment-71412 DarkHorse Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:47:41 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/#comment-71412 "The police can also no longer prevent people from assembly, as it is their religious right to visit the temple. It is not something I’d advocate, but something that I foresee may happen." dranony Why should the police want to disrupt a religious assembly? What is it that you;re advocating?? “The police can also no longer prevent people from assembly, as it is their religious right to visit the temple. It is not something I’d advocate, but something that I foresee may happen.” dranony

Why should the police want to disrupt a religious assembly? What is it that you;re advocating??

]]> By: boh-liao http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/#comment-71410 boh-liao Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:42:21 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/#comment-71410 “The annoucement of a PM’s department for poverty cases to me is more important.” - More money for who? Please visit and refresh our mudah lupa memory: http://www.malaysia-today.net/Blog-e/2005/11/kl-to-jail-top-civil-servant-for.htm “The annoucement of a PM’s department for poverty cases to me is more important.” - More money for who?

Please visit and refresh our mudah lupa memory:
http://www.malaysia-today.net/Blog-e/2005/11/kl-to-jail-top-civil-servant-for.htm

]]> By: grace http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/#comment-71406 grace Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:21:36 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/#comment-71406 Dear Indian friends, Do not be taken in by just a holiday which is long overdue. I hope all of you would not be hoodwinked by this gesture. It is GE gimmicks. I believe your votes are not that cheap. Do not fail Hideraf members who are in jail. Next they would free Hinderaf just to win votes!!! Remember, A swallow maketh a summer not! Dear Indian friends,
Do not be taken in by just a holiday which is long overdue.
I hope all of you would not be hoodwinked by this gesture. It is GE gimmicks. I believe your votes are not that cheap. Do not fail Hideraf members who are in jail. Next they would free Hinderaf just to win votes!!!
Remember, A swallow maketh a summer not!

]]> By: k1980 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/#comment-71403 k1980 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:02:14 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/#comment-71403 Abdullah Declares Thaipusam Public Holiday In KL, Putrajaya Thaipusam is currently a holiday in Selangor, Penang, Perak, Negeri Sembilan and Johor. So the Hindoos in Kedah can go hang for all he cares Abdullah Declares Thaipusam Public Holiday In KL, Putrajaya

Thaipusam is currently a holiday in Selangor, Penang, Perak, Negeri Sembilan and Johor.

So the Hindoos in Kedah can go hang for all he cares

]]> By: boh-liao http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/#comment-71398 boh-liao Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:39:32 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/20/abdullah-declare-wednesday-january-23-as-first-thaipusam-national-public-holiday/#comment-71398 "Malaysian Press said 21,000 or 22,000 mainly MIC members turned up at the gathering. But foreign press said only 7,000 people turned up." - Obviously, the foreign press did not know how to count. "The annoucement of a PM’s department for poverty cases to me is more important." - Don't be too optimistic over this 'Department for Poverty'. Previously, there was this Committee for the Hardcore Poor established to uplift the economic status of the hardcore poor. Sounds wonderful, caring, and compassionate. However, the money meant for the hardcore poor was swallowed by the person or people in charge of the Committee for the Hardcore Poor. At the end, another committee is just another additional avenue for some of the privileged people to wallop all. Visit and read 'Hot air over corruption' (still very relevant) http://www.aliran.com/oldsite/monthly/2005b/11d.html The system has not changed. The spots are still there on the leopard. We still have a den of increasing number of thieves and cheats and liars. “Malaysian Press said 21,000 or 22,000 mainly MIC members turned up at the gathering. But foreign press said only 7,000 people turned up.” - Obviously, the foreign press did not know how to count.

“The annoucement of a PM’s department for poverty cases to me is more important.” - Don’t be too optimistic over this ‘Department for Poverty’. Previously, there was this Committee for the Hardcore Poor established to uplift the economic status of the hardcore poor. Sounds wonderful, caring, and compassionate. However, the money meant for the hardcore poor was swallowed by the person or people in charge of the Committee for the Hardcore Poor. At the end, another committee is just another additional avenue for some of the privileged people to wallop all.

Visit and read ‘Hot air over corruption’ (still very relevant)
http://www.aliran.com/oldsite/monthly/2005b/11d.html

The system has not changed. The spots are still there on the leopard. We still have a den of increasing number of thieves and cheats and liars.

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