Will Samy Vellu contest again in Sungei Siput?


Will the MIC President Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu contest again in the Sungei Siput parliamentary seat in the next general election which is around the corner?

The question seems to be a no-brainer as the answer appears to be indisputable “yes”.

The truth may not be that simple however.

Many would have no doubt that Samy Vellu would be returning to contest the parliamentary seat of Sungei Siput for the ninth time in the next general election, which he won for the first time in 1974.

There is however no doubt that Samy Vellu has become the lightning road of the long-suppressed anger and frustration of the Malaysian Indians over their long-standing political, economic, educational, social, cultural and religious marginalization in the country – as evidenced by the seething ferment demanding change among Malaysian Indians.

Samy Vellu is now the very personification to the Malaysian Indian community of everything that is wrong and unfair about Barisan Nasional policies in the past three decades which have reduced them into the new underclass in Malaysia.

Samy Vellu had compounded this offence in openly going against the struggle of the Malaysian Indians for a just and equal place under the Malaysian sun when he openly denied in India last week that Malaysian Indians are victims of long-standing marginalization.

This is not only untrue – but Samy Vellu knew that he was not speaking the truth!

In June 2004, I had handed Samy Vellu an official letter proposing the establishment of a Parliamentary Select Committee on the Marginalisation of the Malaysian Indians, asking him to take the issue to the Cabinet for approval and suggesting that he be the Chairman of the Parliamentary Select Committee.

At the time, Samy Vellu told me that it was a good proposal and that he would take it up to the Cabinet. I have not heard from him on the issue in the past three years and I do not know whether he had tabled the proposal in Cabinet and it got shot down or whether he never raised it in Cabinet at all.

What is most significant was that when I handed the letter and proposal to him – we were attending a meeting of the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Selection – he raised no objection whatsoever and even commended the proposal as a good one.

This could only meant that in June 2004, Samy Vellu admitted that the Malaysian Indians faced the problem of marginalization – which he is now going all over the world to deny.

This is sheer hypocrisy and explains why he has become the symbol of the rotten and opportunistic Malaysian Indian politics which is the object of scorn in the political awakening of the Malaysian Indians after the watershed Hindraf rally in Kuala Lumpur on Nov. 25 last year.

If Samy Vellu re-contests in Sungei Siput in the next general election expected within 65 days, again leading the MIC election campaign, MIC parliamentary and state assembly candidates throughout the country will face massive rejection by the Malaysian Indian voters.

Are MIC leaders trying to find a way to convey and convince Samy Vellu that the best service he can do to the MIC after being the MIC President and sole Malaysian Indian Minister for close to three decades is for him to fully absorb the anger and frustration of the Malaysian Indians at the MIC failure to check the marginalization of the Malaysian Indians by accepting full personal responsibility and not contesting in the next general election – thus saving the MIC slate of parliamentary and state assembly candidates from the full wrath of the Indian community in the polls?

(Media Statement at Sungei Siput market, the second stop of the 2-day 14-place “whistlestop” campaign in Perak to highlight the DAP national general election theme of “Good Cops, Safe Malaysia” on Saturday, 12th January 2008 at 11 am)

  1. #1 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 7:33 am

    Highly unlikely in view of the circumstances. He is not a unifying force anywhere.

    Most likely he would be appointed senator and from there makes his way back to the Cabinet – following Ghazalie Shafie, Rafidah Aziz and Farid Ariffin and others before him.

    A mockery of the process? A case of the political process having lost its integrity? Looks like.

  2. #2 by Chong Zhemin on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 7:37 am

    undergrad? so fast of you to reply to the title before reading what uncle kit has got to say. Anyways, i guess something’s going wrong with the wordpress again~

    But if Samy’s not contesting in sungai siput, where could he go??

  3. #3 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 7:45 am

    …back to the Cabinet?

  4. #4 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 7:46 am

    No, Chong. That was it. YB Kit probably meant to provoke comments.

  5. #5 by Chong Zhemin on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 7:53 am

    Are you sure? Let’s see who got it right? I think Uncle Kit will get it fixed soon…

  6. #6 by Chong Zhemin on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 7:55 am

    undergrad2,

    i meant if Samy’s not contesting in sungai siput, where could he contest??

  7. #7 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 8:08 am

    He does not have to contest the elections to be appointed Minister. PM will appoint him senator and he comes in by the back door.

  8. #8 by k1980 on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 8:20 am

    Won’t be surprised if he converts and is made the Grand Mufti of malaysia

  9. #9 by malaysianboleh on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 8:28 am

    What a copy cat. After return from india he have plan what to do after his down fall “Cut and paste “after his down fall following Ghazalie Shafie, Rafidah Aziz and Farid Ariffin and others before him. Will be automatically allocate a position as senator .

  10. #10 by oknyua on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 8:42 am

    Knowing what he is, I doubt it very much. YB Lim, this man you mention above is really thick-skin.

    The only authority that can persuade him to go is UMNO. As we mentioned earlier, Samy was an asset, but now, using a financial term, has depreciated a lot. He is more of a liability. His visit to India placed UMNO in an uncomfortable position. What should have turn out as a positive publicity campaign resulted in a snub by the Taminaidu’s CM. It was a direct reponse to Nazri (UMNO)’s criticism.

    On the other hand, we must separate the Malaysian of Indian descend from MIC. The Indians are not going to help UMNO. It is only MIC. That is the dilema of UMNO.

    The third consideration is MIC itself. All of his men owe their MIC and government posts to Samy. I don’t see them turning away from Samy.

    For these 4 reasons, I think he will contest (& win). But your question is “….in Sg Siput?” Yes, in Sg Siput.

  11. #11 by Rocky on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 8:43 am

    going to challenge the CM of Tamil Nadu lo thus will be standing in Tamil Nadu!! He is the saviour if the Tamils in the whole world.

  12. #12 by oknyua on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 8:46 am

    Sorry error in counting. “3” reasons.

  13. #13 by LittleBird on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 9:49 am

    As a minister how do you you rate it compared to others such as ZAM, NAZRI, BADAWI, C4 man, etc..etc??

  14. #14 by zack on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 9:55 am

    Where will you be contesting? Penang? The next CM maybe!!!

  15. #15 by jbhlee on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 10:06 am

    The only creditable challenger that DAP has put so far was P.Patto…
    If he is still around, definitely will beat the shit outta him. In the last GE, there was a majority of more than 4000 votes, so there needs a swing of about 2000 votes from those voting for BN to opposition. I think this time round if DAP or Keadilan is standing, there is a strong chance if the right candidate is offered.

  16. #16 by Tickler on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 10:13 am

    Why not? His support base amongst the MCA chinese voters (37%) coupled with UMNO should get him through even if all the Indians vote against him.

  17. #17 by Tickler on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 10:20 am

    Then again there`s this:

    Gangsters and Experts

    Give me Samy Vellu any time. He’s not very bright but he does not jump from party-to-party. Even without his fuzzy hairdo, he’s still quite funny. Oh yes, he’s now an expert on gangsterism. In early April he presented a “gangsterism prevention package” to his Cabinet colleagues. Declared Samy: “I got most of the information from the Internet and through my observation”. From his study, he surmised that there was a need for “close cooperation between schools, parents and the police”. Profound. And you came to this conclusion after studying the problem of gangsterism throughout the world after only two years? Way to go Samy. But Samy does not study for the sake of studying. “The MIC Youth and Wanita wings would help the authorities” to overcome the problem.

    But wait a minute. Didn’t the BA candidate Dr Jeyakumar Devaraj who challenged Samy in Sungai Siput lodge several police reports about 15 unruly men invading his operations room during the November 1999 general elections? According to the police reports filed, these 15 gangsters threatened “to chop those who opposed Samy Vellu”. Wonder if Samy Vellu interviewed and observed these Sungai Siput gangsters for his study? Wonder why they say things like “chop those who opposed Samy” as though to insinuate they are his men? Of course, this is all hearsay. Incidentally, the police did show up but took no action against the unruly chaps. How come? Apparently because they had not started chopping anyone yet, merely threatened to do so.
    http://www.aliran.com/oldsite/monthly/2000/03a.html

  18. #18 by disapointed86 on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 10:27 am

    I predict he is unlikely to contest in the coming election..i’m of the same opinion like some of the bloggers which claim that he will be appointed by the PM to be Senator or Minister in PM office?..i doubt that if he contest in any constituency, the percentage of indian vote for him is very less…this what i read from M.Kula blog…

    MIC president Samy Vellu was booed and publicly humiliated when he turned up to officiate at the Aattam 100 Vagai 3 (100 types of dance) performance at the Penang Internatikonal Sports Arena (Pisa) last night.

    Sources tell me the crowd of 2,000-3,000 shouted obscenities at him including “po-dah” (the rude version of “get lost”) and he didn’t get a chance to complete his speech. One source told me he was surprised to hear that the women in the audience appeared more aggressive in admonishing Samy.

    Bear in mind, this was a cultural event and not a political forum, so it would have been attended by a diverse crowd of Indian Malaysians – who have now become politically awakened as never before.

    This shows that even the indian in Penang are no longer behind him..Too much trouble created by him in the recent weeks and the indian today realise Sami is not a good leader to the Indian comunity..

  19. #19 by Tickler on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 10:27 am

    Meanwhile, elsewhere: NS MB gets curried:
    Upset with MB, Kirby workers walk out
    http://www.parti-sosialis.org/?cat=1

  20. #20 by max2811 on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 10:50 am

    He will contest! His Last Tango before he bows out in humiliation. I hope it won’t be the end of him.For the sake of the country and the Indians, I hope to see him charged for curruption.

    I hope to see people like him rot in jail or sick in the hospital(act of GOD) for the rest of their lives.

  21. #21 by madmix on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 11:09 am

    He will contest of course. If he wins, he will contest again in the next election if he is still alive. People like him will cling on to power, like Mugabe, Castro, until their last breath.

  22. #22 by Anba on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 11:11 am

    Dear Malaysians,
    In the wake of the murder of Tenggaroh State Assemblyman Datuk Krishnasamy Sithan, my condolence to his family and relatives for their loss. With this incident too, would this prevent Samy Vellu from contesting in Sungai Siput. This is the angle that I’m looking at why Samy Vellu may not contest for his constituency. From the Star publication, Samy Vellu mentioned that :

    “MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu said Krishnasamy had told him about the threats before he left for India two weeks ago.
    “I just advised him to take care. That was the most I could say,” he said, adding that such threats were not unusual in politics. However, he could not confirm if the threats were linked to politics or business.
    Samy Vellu said that he, too, received 10 to 15 such calls a day from people making all sorts of accusations and threats.”

    Is it true that politicians often receive such an enormous number of threatening phone calls? Does Uncle Kit receive such phone calls often? If a politician’s focus is on helping people and serving the needs of the people, and if these duties are conducted in an ethical and honest manner, would he or she receive such life threatening phone calls?

    It’s about time Samy Vellu quit politics and allow younger generations to chart out a greener pastures for the Indians.

    Uncle Lim, your question of whether or not Samy Vellu will contest in Sungai Siput is multifaceted. Whats your take on your question? You still have not answered my question whether or not you envision of becoming the first non-Malay Prime Minister for Malaysia. I’m sick and tired of the Malays who ‘mudah lupa’ taking charge of the country.

    God bless Malaysia.

  23. #23 by k1980 on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 11:16 am

    Does the cabinet remind you of these?
    http://www.pjmorris.com/images/beano/bashstreet.jpg

  24. #24 by vehir on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 11:20 am

    Yes he will definately contest in Sg Siput. He talks bodly and if switches to other seats he thinks that he is a coward.

    Sami thinks of his dignity and the power he has can still make him come out with outstanding colors in the GE. He will not give up. He will fight until the end – live or dead. If he runs to other area to contest then he knows the voters will through him off as not a responsible INDIAN MALAYSIA leader for the Indian community.

    We know he cannot take our advice. He even dont listen to the GOD’s advice. He is the GOD and he is all.

    But saying that above, his seat depends on the voters hand. Whatever political gimmick that is going to happen in this coming election predicted on 15th Mac 2008, he will have to go back to the position where he was before becoming a HERO of MIC. Thats the end of his game.

  25. #25 by Bigjoe on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 11:22 am

    The issue is really can Samy Vellu get away with anything other than a convincing win in Sg. Siput?

    The man may be in a battling mood but so are those who oppose him. They are not going to play his game. Nothing he does will change their minds and its a propaganda battle where their single one advantage is that the more Samy Vellu take risks, the more he can be critisized.

    Take for example, the coming rally. Getting 15,000-20,000 people into a stadium is already criticised for being meaningless even before it began. Being snubbed in Tamilnadu is being billed as a shame.

    The more he puts himself out there and don’t win, the more he looks like the problem rather the cause of the problem.

    Will he run? Most likely because otherwise he just have to quit. I don’t think there is a middle ground for him unlike other BN component parties.

  26. #26 by vehir on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 11:23 am

    VK LINGAM TAPE

    Refer to http://www.malaysiakini.tv

    for the news on WHO TOOK the video clip.

    Very interesting. Please go ahead to listen.

  27. #27 by Tickler on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 11:26 am

    I rather like the idea of PM n Najib holding semi`s hand at the stadium. That same hand will pull them down too – the proverbial drowning man clutching at straws.

  28. #28 by toyolbuster on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 11:26 am

    Whether Samy will contest or not depends entirely on KJ. If KJ feels that this [deleted] can be used again by UMNO, then he shall, but up until now, Samy has performed real well for UMNO, especially in India. He defended UMNO with his thick skin and even made a fool of himself in his own motherland, just to stick his head out for UMNO. So, I think he will be given a chance to contest in Sg Siput, and he would. However, UMNO may sacrifice him this time around and let him loose, and Samy cannot turn around and blame anyone for ditching him. It will be his “natural death” demise.

  29. #29 by DarkHorse on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 11:31 am

    There are a number of permutations which I believe Abdullah Badawi needs to consider. Let Samy Vellu stand in Sg. Siput long his stronghold and win. He then retains his Cabinet position in the next government. Or persuade him not to stand but appoint him later as senator. If he were to stand and lose, Abdullah Badawi would be seen to make a mockery of the process. It does not mean, of course, that he would not do it but it’d be best to avoid being seen as abusing the political process – not that he had not done before!

  30. #30 by DarkHorse on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 11:34 am

    I really cannot imagine the next government without Samy Vellu.

  31. #31 by Bigjoe on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 11:41 am

    On Jeff Ooi site, he is decribing his visit to Sabah with Jeffrey Sach. One of the thing to note is the poverty rate in Sabah. With Hindraf, the biggest dispute is whether Indians are worst off than Malays. UNDP statistics clearly show that poverty of bumiputeras is largely two area 1) in Sabah 2) pockets in Kelantan. The per capita income level of bumis are also clearly distorted by these factors. The government is very conveniently lumping together numbers that are convenient for them and ignoring facts when they are not.

  32. #32 by AhPek on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 11:49 am

    “Will Samy Vellu contest again in Sungei Siput?” should be turned into a quetion like ‘Can Samy Vellu afford not to contest and retire from political life?’ or ‘Is he prepared to give up the President position of MIC?’.
    My personal opinion is that he won’t give up the presidency of MIC because the stakes are too high for him to do so.Thus he is going for election and is going to be in Sungei Siput! The 4th floor boys can do nothing about it unless UMNO is prepared to give MIC the boot.

  33. #33 by Tickler on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 11:55 am

    I`m steel reeling over why a drowning man clutching at straws would need moderation.

  34. #34 by Jong on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 12:09 pm

    Whatever Samy Velu decides, he may need an armoured suit for protection, after what just happened to S. Krishansamy. It’s obvious the Malaysian Indian community are not at all happy with MIC like other BN component parties, they only enrich and care for their top leaders.

    Count his blessings he(SV) was away in India otherwise it could have been his funeral yesterday!

  35. #35 by Tickler on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 12:38 pm

    Samy, come this Thaipusam, I hope you will be booed out of Batu Caves.
    http://aisehman.org/?p=439

    What are the chances of that happening?

  36. #36 by Tickler on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 12:54 pm

    The `turnover`:

    Crack in ‘Hindraf 5’
    Saturday, January 12, 2008
    DAP MP Kulasegaran has hinted in his speech at a Ponggal harvesting festival yesterday in Port Klang that there is a crack in the relationship of the five Hindraf leaders arrested under Malaysian draconian Internal Security Act (ISA), without going in details. Also, he appealed to the media present not to report on this matter. But many in the crowed were whispering.
    Apparently, four of the arrested — Ganabathirau, Vasanthakumar, Kenghadharan and Manoharan have turned against Uthayakumar accusing him of misappropriating the Hindraf funds collected from the public running to more than a million. It seems the four had made a police report.
    http://www.indianmalaysian.com/

  37. #37 by naked taliban on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 1:17 pm

    1.

    Count his blessings he(SV) was away in India otherwise it could have been his funeral yesterday!
    Jong says;

    Do you know how many gangsters on his payroll ?, and body guards around.??

  38. #38 by chgchksg128 on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 1:41 pm

    He should quit la…..If he can not help the Indian,let some others do it…malaysia need a fair leaders….not him….moreover, malaysian Indon is more than Indian now
    http://2hard2lie.blogspot.com/2008/01/too-much-of-foreigners.html

  39. #39 by chiakchua on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 2:40 pm

    “Uncle Lim, your question of whether or not Samy Vellu will contest in Sungai Siput is multifaceted. Whats your take on your question? You still have not answered my question whether or not you envision of becoming the first non-Malay Prime Minister for Malaysia. I’m sick and tired of the Malays who ‘mudah lupa’ taking charge of the country.” Anba

    Semi-Value is cunning and shrewed. He would have to go for it, but get beaten this time!

    His boss in UMNO would do their best to garner for him the support of ‘all’ Malay voters; because he is their tool. Therefore, DAP must make sure to get all non-Malays to ‘vote’ any opposition, and get PKR and PAS to help get as many Malay votes as possible. This will definitely put him to rest.

    To get the support of more Malays, it is very important (at least for the next 2 to 3 elections to come) the opposition front must be led by a predominantly Malay led party such as PKR or PAS. The Malays would not feel ‘safe’ to vote against BN/UMNO if the opposition is led by non-Malays. And UMNO will not heed the non-Malay opposition pressure and could easily paralyzed them with ISA (like the HINDRAF situation now). So, it is crucial that all non-Malays opposition parties should work hand-in-hand with Malay led opposition parties to topple the UMNO/BN front. This is the political realty in Malaysia – the result of the divide and rule strategy of UMNO for the past decades!

    Could Uncle Lim become the first non-Malay PM? Surely he would like to, for the benefits of all Malaysian, but …….

  40. #40 by Saint on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 3:09 pm

    Isn’t Samy great? Even without an entry, he receives so many responses. He must be made to loose wherever he stands.

  41. #41 by mendela on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 3:20 pm

    CNN said Kenya used to be the most stable country in the whole continent of Africa.

    After the alleged rigging of the recent GE in Kenya by the ruling party, Kenya is in anarchy now and many peope are killed everyday.

    Will UMO and the gangs rig the coming GE in Malaysia again?

    Is UMO well aware of the repercursions of rigging GE in today’s world?

  42. #42 by kanthanboy on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 3:27 pm

    Samy Velu will have no choice but to stand in Sg Siput to try to save his skin unless he can find a BN component party that is willing to exchange a constituency with him. He cannot afford not to stand because he knows UMNO will not appoint him as a senator and let him stay on as minister. UMNO needs an elected Indian MP as a puppet minister in the cabinet for window dressing and to justify its claim that BN policies have the support of the Indians as represented by the Indian minister. It was TDM who said that the reason he could not prosecute Samy Velu for corruption was because the Indians might start a riot, as Samy was the only Indian in the cabinet. Samy has managed to survive and holding on to his corrupt baggage for so long by riding on the back of the Indians. Once he falls from MIC his remaining usefulness to UMNO is to present him as a sacrificial bull to ACA for prosecution as a show case to cover their impotence.

    I believe this time around the Opposition has a real chance to unseat Samy Velu in Sg. Siput. However, it will be an uphill battle against the might of the BN election machinery. Samy knows that he will be fighting for his life, he will use the financial and human resources of his ministry as his private asset for the election campaign.

    The opposition will have no match for the BN in term of financial and human resources. However the GE wind is in favor of the opposition and the fact that Samy has become a rat running across the street. To have a fair chance to win the opposition must send a well know and credible Indian candidate. Smack Samy Velu, a rat in the year of rat!

  43. #43 by St0rmFury on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 3:47 pm

    Samy vellu will not run away form his “FORT” unlike LKS who have been running around from PJ to Kota Melaka to Tanjung and to IPOH. The BIG Q .. where will LKS be contesting this election.. bet he will once agian run to Penang since his dream is to be the next CM …. SO to LKS before you ask Samy … you must ask yourself.. where am I going to contest?

  44. #44 by necromancer4good on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 4:00 pm

    Yes, Uncle Lim. Unseat Samy by contesting in Sg Siput.

  45. #45 by kanthanboy on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 4:07 pm

    “Samy vellu will not run away form his “FORT” unlike LKS…” St0rmFury
    ——————————
    I just saw a rat running behind Samy across the steet. Don’t underestimate Samy, all his rats will come out in full force in the coming the GE.

  46. #46 by mysn1st on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 4:57 pm

    YB, I believe soo.

    1st, he don’t have much choice where restricted by “his big brother”, UNMO.

    2nd, He must 99.99% win in order to keep his post. The ultimate reason will be :- Minister of Work & MIC President can’t be replace by anyone if he is still here.

  47. #47 by Tickler on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 5:55 pm

    CNN said Kenya used to be the most stable country in the whole continent of Africa. – mendela

    Yes that is true. BBC would say the same. But they would never tell you about the root problem:

    Raila Odinga, the current frontrunner in the upcoming presidential election in Kenya, has promised to implement strict Islamic Sharia law if he receives the Muslim vote in the predominantly Christian country and is elected president.

    A memorandum of understanding (MOU) – signed on Aug. 29 by Sheikh Abdullahi Abdi, chairman of the National Leaders Forum (Namlef), and Odinga, presidential candidate from the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) – was made public on Nov. 27.

    According to International Christian Concern (ICC), however, there are in fact two versions of the MOU. The persecution watchdog group claims that Abdi and Odinga signed a private MOU which is very different from the one presented to the public.

    In the secret version of the MOU, Odinga allegedly states his intention to, ”within six months, rewrite the Constitution of Kenya to recognize Sharia as the only true law sanctioned by the Holy Quran for Muslim declared regions” if elected, according to ICC.
    http://www.christianpost.com/article/20071218/30541_Concerns_Raised_Over_Alleged_Vow_to_Enforce_Islamic_Law_in_Kenya.htm

  48. #48 by mauriyaII on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 5:59 pm

    Why should we bother where this incompetent traitor of Malaysian Indian stands? The Opposition should concetrate on strategies to defeat not only him but other rats like him in the coming GE by exposing all the rotten things they have done.
    Writing in blogs alone is not enough because people at large especially the poor and down-trodden non-Malays should be made to understand what sort Barisan leaders they have been voting for.
    The Opposition and their sympathisers cannot hold rallys/meetings because police will not issue permits. How to counter this? Election is round the corner. Time is short. Apart from forming workable alliances with other non-power crazy parties, the DAP should counter the propaganda campaign of the MIC, MCA and the Kerismudin youths.

  49. #49 by Jeffrey on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 7:25 pm

    Tickler,

    I wil be obliged if you could enlighten what is the relevance, nexus, connection or lessons we can draw from your last posting on the going ons in Kenya in relation to the present blog thread subject of whether “Samy Vellu will contest in Sungai Siput”?

  50. #50 by Tickler on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 10:01 pm

    Perhaps you should ask mendela Today at 15: 20.45 . Mine was a reply to that.

  51. #51 by limkamput on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 10:10 pm

    I think we need to get it right. All the problems faced by Indian Malaysians are not entirely due to Samy’s fault. We can have any other Indian leader heading the MIC, the problems will be still more or less the same. This is the nature of BN arrangement – that non Malay parties are mere token. The same is with MCA. The only difference as I can see now is the Chinese are not as in dire straits as the Indians at the moment.

    Why am I keeping hearing that Samy is so indispensable – to be appointed Senator if he is not given a seat to contest or if he loses the election? Remember even Mahathir is dispensable. Honestly all the non Malay cabinet ministers can be dispensed with and nothing would happen. If Samy is no longer useful, what UMNO needs to do is to get another token. How difficult can that be? They are so many around. So it is rather odd to me to read the statement that “it is hard to imagine the next cabinet without Samy”. What pivotal role does Samy play in the Govt? Announcing the toll rates after UMNO has decided, or witnessing a concession signing agreement after PM has made the decision? I think we ought to remember how UMNO got rid of Neo Yee Pan in favour of Tan Koon Swan in the 1980s as a lesson

    So long as UMNO still wants him, I think Samy is not in a hopeless situation. Sungei Siput is not Kuala Lumpur. One must not underestimate the politics at the grass root level and the power of money. I agree that his situation is less than perfect but he is not entirely hopeless, unless UMNO has chosen to dump him.

  52. #52 by year of snake on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 10:12 pm

    He will definitely stand in Sungei Siput because if he looses the election, it will give him an excuse to retire from politics and enjoy life to the fullest with his fortune. If he wins, he can claim that his constituency still support him but I think that he will enventually resign from the presidency of MIC and be a ordinary MP till his term expires and later enjoy the fruits of his labour.

  53. #53 by tselau on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 10:33 pm

    He is a proxy for so many other ministers, without him around, how to korek for more and share the loot??

  54. #54 by shaolin on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 10:35 pm

    Surely Sami Velooo will contest in Sg Siput again. He
    is the God and he will win again but I do not know how??
    You better ask him what tricks he plays again…!

    He has AAB, Najib and all Elite UMNOputras behind him.
    He is the God and He cannot no way looses the GE!!

    Even though he looses, there is always Back Door opens
    and wait for him to go straight into the Cabinet!!

    This is M’sia Politics. Cronies and Nepotism always too
    Mighty and play a vital role!! Damn it to HELL!!

    Malaysia is DOOMed …!

  55. #55 by Thegame on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 10:47 pm

    May i know why is kit so concerned about samy.His destiny is decided by BN.what about you sir..will you be contesting in east timor.When are you going to come up with a joint manifesto with Pas and PKR.We are waiting…please dont take too long.The election is just around the corner.May i also know how Dap intend to serve the indian community.What are your programs for the Indian community.How can you make our lives better….please can you answer.Indians do not like to be taken for granted anymore..

  56. #56 by Thegame on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 10:57 pm

    cont… The day BN start to think out of the box to address Indian problems…The indian problems will be resolved in no time.I am sure there are wise ppl in BN and they will do in due cause.We are not against BN or even the opposition.We just dont like to be taken for granted anymore.we are wide awake now and we will vote wisely too.

  57. #57 by DarkHorse on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 11:22 pm

    “So it is rather odd to me to read the statement that “it is hard to imagine the next cabinet without Samy”. ” limkamput

    I’m sorry if I have annoyed you with the stupidity of my observation, Sir.

    However, what I meant was that assuming the UMNO leadership does not want to ‘do away’ with Samy Vellu because, say what we want he still has a following, and assuming that the UMNO leadership does not want to face the risk of seeing him loses the elections, there is another way out i.e. through his senate appointment. There is nothing to stop that.

    Or he could be nominated to stand in a ‘safe’ seat. There is nothing to stop that too.

    I cannot imagine the next government without him assuming the UMNO leadership is behind him.

  58. #58 by DarkHorse on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 11:27 pm

    “I think we ought to remember how UMNO got rid of Neo Yee Pan in favour of Tan Koon Swan in the 1980s as a lesson” limkamput

    Personally I do not remember that because you do not have memories of anything when you are younger than four years old. Nor have I read anything about it. Excuse me for my ignorance.

  59. #59 by chai on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 11:31 pm

    if samy dont contest in sg siput i suggest call him balik kampung tanam jajung!!!!!

  60. #60 by mendela on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 11:46 pm

    Jeffrey, I just want to challege UMO whether do they dare to rig the coming GE like the Kenya’s ruling party did recently.

    Whether Samy contest or quit is of no issue coz he is a living dead. No, I should say he is just a dead meat or a dead running dog for UMO.

  61. #61 by zack on Sunday, 13 January 2008 - 11:50 pm

    Anba wrote … “… I’m sick and tired of the Malays who ‘mudah lupa’ taking charge of the country….”

    Be realistic … would you think that the Malays will want a non-Malay as PM …. a tall order Anba… not in your life time ….

  62. #62 by mendela on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 12:15 am

    Lah is on honeymoon again!

    Bernama reported that Lah arrived in Spain on Sunday and would attend a who-know-what “First Alliance of Civiliazations Annual Forum” on Tuesday!

    Bernama reported that he will help to find ways to bridge the growing divides between nations and culture worldwide!

    What a joke, ha ha ha ha ha!

    By the way, our “Erection” foreign minister is with him too just in case Lah fall asleep again…

  63. #63 by limkamput on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 12:36 am

    “Nor have I read anything about it. Excuse me for my ignorance”. Darkhorse

    I do not know you are being sarcastic or being humble. But knowing you and your disdain for me, I think it is more of the former. Be that as it may, if you don’t know, I suggest you read and if you find no source of that episode, ask around. I am sure there are many who can help you. However, if you have doubt of what I said, then it is another matter. I need not convince you.

  64. #64 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 12:46 am

    Samy Vellu and Sg Siput…

    Samy will be the latest and biggest siput to return to the sungei.

  65. #65 by DarkHorse on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 1:15 am

    I think so too, Endangered Hornbill.

    But why are you still endangered? I thought Parliament has introduced the necessary legislation to protect all species in danger of extinction.

  66. #66 by Jon_Jon on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 1:15 am

    Samy Velu…

    In Sungai Siput there is no doubt he can win.

    Rebellion is the only way and we have to join forces and kick him out of mic and clean up the frigging party ourselves.

    100,000 planned to gather and ask money from the queen of england.

    Cant 100,000 gather and fire him from office?

    Imagine a pink slip as thick as an ecyclopedia.

  67. #67 by Colonel on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 1:56 am

    “If the writer is not judging, then what was he doing, playing marble is it? If he did, then he is entirely wrong!!! got it?” limkamphut

    Back to your old self huh? Putting down others. Keep that ego of yours in control.

  68. #68 by KS R on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 3:15 am

    Hi YB

    Dato Samy should contest Sungai Siput but under DAP that mean he will win. Please speak to him. I understand MIC meeting they provide lunch / dinner and giving money RM 200. Can you advice Dato Sami to increase RM 20,000 plus lucky draw that his good idea

  69. #69 by Jeffrey on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 6:13 am

    If Samy contests in a place other than Sungei Siput, he would appear vindicating the allegation that he has failed the Malaysian Indian cause that makes him afraid of the 22.45% Indians there would all turn against him.

    There’s no doubt that Hindraf’s episode has alienated many Malaysian Indians and slapped him in the face but how much of this alienation would be translated into withdrawal of support within Singei Siput, his traditional fortress, the last time around of which he won with a convincing 10,000 margin? Even if majority of Indian voters turn against him, he might not lose.The Sungai Siput parliamentary constituency has 46,779 Malays (31.5%), Chinese 41.5%, Indians 22.5% and orang asli 4.5%. With Malay support for BN Candidate, the issue is wouldn’t the Chinese (41.5%) there continue their traditional support for him, even if Indians are alienated? I read somewhere that the last time around the DAP candidate lost to the extent his deposit forfeited. If true, wouldn’t this be some kind of measure of where their votes would go again? Sungei Siput seems still a safer bet based on the ‘Devil you know’ principle.

    [I have not been able to upload to the blog for the past 24 hrs, including the contents of this thread. – kit]

    [This a a breakthrough. But attempt to post the blog content has again just failed. – kit]

    Will the MIC President Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu contest again in the Sungei Siput parliamentary seat in the next general election which is around the corner?

    The question seems to be a no-brainer as the answer appears to be indisputable “yes”.

    The truth may not be that simple however.

    Many would have no doubt that Samy Vellu would be returning to contest the parliamentary seat of Sungei Siput for the ninth time in the next general election, which he won for the first time in 1974.

    There is however no doubt that Samy Vellu has become the lightning road of the long-suppressed anger and frustration of the Malaysian Indians over their long-standing political, economic, educational, social, cultural and religious marginalization in the country – as evidenced by the seething ferment demanding change among Malaysian Indians.

    Samy Vellu is now the very personification to the Malaysian Indian community of everything that is wrong and unfair about Barisan Nasional policies in the past three decades which have reduced them into the new underclass in Malaysia.

    Samy Vellu had compounded this offence in openly going against the struggle of the Malaysian Indians for a just and equal place under the Malaysian sun when he openly denied in India last week that Malaysian Indians are victims of long-standing marginalization.

    This is not only untrue – but Samy Vellu knew that he was not speaking the truth!

    In June 2004, I had handed Samy Vellu an official letter proposing the establishment of a Parliamentary Select Committee on the Marginalisation of the Malaysian Indians, asking him to take the issue to the Cabinet for approval and suggesting that he be the Chairman of the Parliamentary Select Committee.

    (incomplete)

    At the time, Samy Vellu told me that it was a good proposal and that he would take it up to the Cabinet.

  70. #70 by mablecp on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 6:15 am

    Media Statement by Parliamentary Opposition Leader and DAP MP for Ipoh Timur Lim Kit Siang in Sungei Siput market, the second stop of the 2-day 12-place “whistlestop” campaign in Perak to highlight the DAP national general election theme of “Good Cops, Safe Malaysia” on Saturday, 12th January 2008 at 11 am

    Will Samy Vellu back out of contest in Sungei Siput in next general election as he has become the lightning rod of the long-suppressed anger and frustrations of the Malaysian Indians over their long-standing marginalization as to become the new underclass in the country

    Will the MIC President Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu contest again in the Sungei Siput parliamentary seat in the next general election which is around the corner?

    The question seems to be a no-brainer as the answer appears to be indisputable “yes”.

    The truth may not be that simple however.

    Many would have no doubt that Samy Vellu would be returning to contest the parliamentary seat of Sungei Siput for the ninth time in the next general election, which he won for the first time in 1974.

    There is however no doubt that Samy Vellu has become the lightning road of the long-suppressed anger and frustration of the Malaysian Indians over their long-standing political, economic, educational, social, cultural and religious marginalization in the country – as evidenced by the seething ferment demanding change among Malaysian Indians.

    Samy Vellu is now the very personification to the Malaysian Indian community of everything that is wrong and unfair about Barisan Nasional policies in the past three decades which have reduced them into the new underclass in Malaysia.

    Samy Vellu had compounded this offence in openly going against the struggle of the Malaysian Indians for a just and equal place under the Malaysian sun when he openly denied in India last week that Malaysian Indians are victims of long-standing marginalization.

    This is not only untrue – but Samy Vellu knew that he was not speaking the truth!

    Lim Kit Siang

    to be continued

  71. #71 by Chong Zhemin on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 6:56 am

    Media Statement by Parliamentary Opposition Leader and DAP MP for Ipoh Timur Lim Kit Siang in Sungei Siput market, the second stop of the 2-day 12-place “whistlestop” campaign in Perak to highlight the DAP national general election theme of “Good Cops, Safe Malaysia” on Saturday, 12th January 2008 at 11 am

    Will Samy Vellu back out of contest in Sungei Siput in next general election as he has become the lightning rod of the long-suppressed anger and frustrations of the Malaysian Indians over their long-standing marginalization as to become the new underclass in the country

    Will the MIC President Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu contest again in the Sungei Siput parliamentary seat in the next general election which is around the corner?

    The question seems to be a no-brainer as the answer appears to be indisputable “yes”.

    The truth may not be that simple however.

    Many would have no doubt that Samy Vellu would be returning to contest the parliamentary seat of Sungei Siput for the ninth time in the next general election, which he won for the first time in 1974.

    There is however no doubt that Samy Vellu has become the lightning road of the long-suppressed anger and frustration of the Malaysian Indians over their long-standing political, economic, educational, social, cultural and religious marginalization in the country – as evidenced by the seething ferment demanding change among Malaysian Indians.

    Samy Vellu is now the very personification to the Malaysian Indian community of everything that is wrong and unfair about Barisan Nasional policies in the past three decades which have reduced them into the new underclass in Malaysia.

    Samy Vellu had compounded this offence in openly going against the struggle of the Malaysian Indians for a just and equal place under the Malaysian sun when he openly denied in India last week that Malaysian Indians are victims of long-standing marginalization.

    This is not only untrue – but Samy Vellu knew that he was not speaking the truth!

    [Bravo Zhemin, “great men think alike” – I got one para ahead of you, with six paras to go. Stumped. Thanks – kit]

  72. #72 by Anba on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 7:53 am

    Based on my qoute “… I’m sick and tired of the Malays who ‘mudah lupa’ taking charge of the country….” ,

    Zack replied, ” Be realistic … would you think that the Malays will want a non-Malay as PM …. a tall order Anba… not in your life time ….”

    Zack, of course the Malays would not want a Non Malay to be our PM. But never underestimate the power of intention. God has given us a powerful psyche to change things on earth. The change I’m pointing is the need to have a change in leadership by another race. I’m referring to the injustice by this small Malay group thats marginalizing and discriminating the other races in Malaysia.

    Since the General Election is held once at least once in 5 years, God willing, I may still witness about 8 General elections. Thats a time span of about 40 years. Don’t you think this is possible? Well, I believe it’s possible. It seems impossible because not many people have actually spoken publicly about it. If the opposition parties get together in the name of justice,equality and the betterness of the people, then it’s possible to elect a non-Malay PM in the future.

    Finally Zack, I’m a dreamer, I dream the impossible dream, it’s in this dream that realities are born. If Martin Luther King Jr did not speak about the “I had a Dream” speech, perhaps Barack Obama ( an African American who is the front runner in the nomination for the Democratic party for the 2008 USA Presidential election ) would not be a major contender for the USA Presidential election this year.
    Malaysians, are you willing to dream and hope for change in the future generations of Malaysians?

    May God bless Malaysia.

  73. #73 by limkamput on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 7:54 am

    Back to your old self huh? Putting down others. Keep that ego of yours in control. fake colonel @ private

    I have no problem with mine. It is yours that needs control.

  74. #74 by kanthanboy on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 7:55 am

    Thegame,

    Whether you like it or not you have already been taken for granted for 50 years.

    You said you are now wide awake, I don’t believe you at all because you are still talking in you dream. In case you don’t remember, this is what said in your dream: “ …. The day BN start to think out of the box to address Indian problems…The indian problems will be resolved in no time.”

  75. #75 by Count Dracula on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 7:57 am

    I think Sammy Vellu would likely stand in his old constituency and that he would win. From there it will be ‘business as usual’. The BN war machine will make it happen.

  76. #76 by Thegame on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 8:58 am

    Hi
    kanthanboy….Maybe i am still in a dream.The day a man stops dreaming he is dead.There is nothing wrong in dreaming but we must stop getting emotional and give away our votes to ppl who only engage in rhetoric and no substance.We have no enemies only our interest at heart.I know what i am talking …do you….The opposition is not our enemy nor are the BN.We must not repeat the same mistake again that we did with mic and BN….enough is enough…..yes man …we are wide awake out of too much suffering and neglect.thanks for your comments

  77. #77 by Tickler on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 9:16 am

    Lah is on honeymoon again!
    Bernama reported that Lah arrived in Spain on Sunday and would attend a who-know-what “First Alliance of Civiliazations Annual Forum” on Tuesday!- posted by mendela

    Most appropriate. Now we all know that he`s gone to FAC (the acronym) in Spain.

  78. #78 by Tickler on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 9:48 am

    Samy Vellu`s “attacks” on the Mr. Karunanidhi the Tamil Nadu Chief Minister have now resulted in this:

    Translation from Tamil news report in Dinamani, 13 Jan. 2008

    Chennai: Hindu Munnani Founder Ramagopalan has demanded that India should impose economic sanctions on the Malaysian Government which is devastating the rights of Malaysian Indians.

    The statement released by him on this demand:

    Attacks are ongoing on ethnic Hindus in Malaysia. False charges are being foisted by the Government of Malaysia to subdue the resolve of Malaysian Indians to defend their human rights.

    The Hindu students are not allowed to purue their studies in schools and colleges. They are being driven out of their jobs. Hindu houses and temples are being demolished.

    Every human community has inherent rights to protest, in a democratic manner, for defending their human rights. Malaysian Government is disregarding this fundamental human right. Condemning this violation, Commonwealth should decide to debar the membership of Malaysia in the Commonwealth.

    Until justice is rendered to Malaysian Hindus, Indian Government should ban imports of palm oil and other commodities from Malaysia. Malaysian Government should be compelled by India to protect the Hindus by slapping economic sanctions.

  79. #79 by Tickler on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 9:52 am

    It was reported recently that 10,000 roses would be delivered to PM Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi by the Indian community on February 16, 2008, just two days after Valentine’s Day.

    A meeting was held last night in London to have a protest march on February 1, 2008 and subsequently to present a Petition to the British Government and Foreign Office expressing the plights of the Malaysian Indians and to pressure the Malaysian government to settle these unsettled matters immediately.

    The meeting also discussed that on February 14, 2008, a group of Malaysian Indians residing in London will stage a hunger strike at Trafalagar Square at the same time as observed by their counterparts at Malaysia and Canada. It was also mentioned that on February 16, 2008 a group of Malaysian Indian will call at the Malaysian High Commissioner Office in London to hand over roses as similar to the incident that will take place in Malaysia.

    http://kamal-talksmalaysia.blogspot.com/2008/01/malaysian-indians-time-bomb-explodes.html

  80. #80 by smeagroo on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 10:11 am

    Many ppl are asking how will DAP and the other Opps can do to help if they win the GE.

    My answer is that they cant do anything in the short term but once corrupted govt is wiped out and funds are well managed then slowly but surely everyone will benefit.

    Why are the INdians asking how can DAP help? What are they gonna do? DAP and the rest cant be giving empty promises like “we will build tamil schools etc etc etc”.

    Let’s us work together as ONE first and kick the stupid BN out then we will be able to see a better future.

    Stop being selfish and ask what each BA party can do for each community but let us look at the bigger picture as Malaysians.

  81. #81 by Tickler on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 10:16 am

    I don`t think the Indians are `asking how can DAP help?` these days.
    From what I hear they want to vote opposition.
    That does not mean all will either – just as for the other malaysians.
    On my part I find it easier these days to persuade m`sians not to vote for the BN. That is half the battle won already.

  82. #82 by Thegame on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 10:43 am

    Hi smeagroo …point taken.Read my comments.Its a wake up call to the politicians esp the opposition.The ppl are ready to vote for the opposition but its the opposition who is not ready.They are still engaging in communal politic.Thats not healthy nor is it good for us Malaysian..We understand the magnitude of the problem and how it will affect all Malaysians not just a particular community.The fight must be for all Malaysian not just for a particular community.

  83. #83 by Thegame on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 10:46 am

    Hi Tickler…You may be right there but how can we vote for the opposition if their vision is narrow and short term.Which serve only a particular community.We want the opposition to serve all Malaysian and fight for all Malaysians.Is that too much to ask

  84. #84 by Short-sleeve on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 10:58 am

    Dear Samy,

    Come and contest again in Sg Siput.
    Kita lawan tetap lawan.

  85. #85 by smeagroo on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 11:45 am

    Semi D Value will still contest in Sg SIput. ALl he needs to do is to resurface the roads and throw in some party and the ppl will be fooled again. Kampung mentality, u cant help it.

    It is a sure win for him.

  86. #86 by scorpian6666 on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 12:00 pm

    I am so ashamed being malaysian that I never knew nor believe (Temple demolishion) in such a way happened in Malaysia. Thanks for the link, Tikler
    As for Thegame, here something for you…
    If fighting for equality for all Malaysian including Malay by the Opposition which include DaP, Pas, as well as the PKR, does not also meant fighting for the Indian, don’t you think you would have Label them as being different if not inferior from the other Malaysian.
    If you would please elaborate more about the Opposition’s view being narrow and short term. Don’t you think demolishing the Hindu temple by the Police, not even a little too aggressive and more being very narrow indeed.
    Maybe you are just like me, very very naive in regards to political events and sensitive happenings of Malaysia. If I were you, I would read more before I call the Opposition view Narrow and short term.
    Anyway I would be just happy for the Opposition to just fight for malaysian rights! Indeed if they could win, it may also meant LONG TERM if that is what you meant by short term
    Now you remind me of a lot of speeches by some BN ministers …. The “OPPOSITION LIEs” without any subject …… Lie about WHAT ?
    What narrow View ?

    Samy, I am quite sure would still contest since he does not seen to be moved by the Indian’s grievances.

    I would urge others like myself to click on link shown by Tikler
    http://kamal-talksmalaysia.blogspot.com/2008/01/malaysian-indians-time-bomb-explodes.html
    ..it moves me ! and rather irritated that I could not as a human done anything and dismay that such thing happened in Malaysia whereas the predominate christain countries i have been, let the Muslim has their own little mosque with very little muslim community

  87. #87 by Thegame on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 12:40 pm

    Hi scorpian6666 ..thanks for the comment.I think if we just keep it on the subject and not get personal will do fine.There is no need for character asssination.Among others what I am talking about is issues that affects all Malaysians like the abuses and excessess of the judiciary and police force.These requires the support of all Malaysians as it affect all Malaysians. You are not wrong when you talk about the demolition of temples.That alone is insufficient to bring the votes to the opposition.The opposition must be united and fight for a common cause for the the betterment of all Malaysians.When one fight along communial line that is narrow and shortterm.I hate to be called or identified by race esp when my root is here in malaysia.I have no alligiance to China orIndia nor anything to do with Them.I share my life with my fellow Malaysians.What i am is because of my fellow Malaysians irrespective of what race they are.There are acute differences on many issues. i dont deny that but to fight it we must be united.I am also saying dont give a blank cheque to any politicians.Let them earn it.well is that asking too much .am i really being that naive..Just dont get too emotional be pragmactic and practical otherwise we will be getting rid of one monster and bringing in another monster with their own agenda.

  88. #88 by kanthanboy on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 3:16 pm

    Thegame,

    I see several bloggers have tried to point out to you why you have to vote opposition but you don’t seem to get it.
    I’ll try to explain my point in a scenario:

    Imagine you are stranded in an island and you have no idea when you will be rescued. You meet a native on the island and he shows you those only 2 types of fruit, which are eatable. One fruit is called BN, which is more colorful and look juicy. The other fruit is called Opposition, which is not colorful and doesn’t look juicy at all. Your first instinct is to follow what the native eats. So for 5 consecutive days you have been eating BN. The problem is every time after eating you have diarrhea. You ask the native what will happen if you start eating Opposition. He says he has no idea because he only likes to eat BN, which is very juicy. He is not sure whether Opposition will cause you to have diarrhea but he assures you that Opposition is an eatable fruit. What will you do? Will you continue to eat BN and have diarrhea every time or try the Opposition and hope for the best?

    My point is: in this coming GE you choices are:

    1)Vote for BN so that the present situation will get worst

    2)Vote for Opposition and hope for a change for the better.

    3)Don’t vote at all.

  89. #89 by kamal on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 3:39 pm

    I dont think Sungei Siput is a safe seat for SamyVelu who is carrying heavy load of curses from many Indians. He has yet to see the reality.May be as the days get closer to elections when more events come by, SVellu will be able to assess the magnitude of his losses.

    If he decides to change, then he is a coward running away from a losing battle to a safe seat to secure a job for maintaing his greed.

  90. #90 by Thegame on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 3:43 pm

    Hi kanthanboy….thanks for the comment.sounds very silly
    though but i take your point.Do you take my points i have raised.Think before you speak….We are ready to vote for the opposition.Just give us strong opposition.no no we are not asking we are begging.please please give us a good opposition.I know what i am talking about. i work in the system.I see the abuses and excessess all the time.We need a political solution to correct it.for that we need a strong opposition who can appeal to all Malaysian.It must be based on national agenda for all .No opposition can make significnat influence without the support of other malaysian.thats a fact.Its a pity you cannot understand my plea.maybe we are not yet ready for that plunge….Do as you please…..thats democracy..maybe after a few more hammer blows you will be forced to see my point of view….cherio

  91. #91 by scorpian6666 on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 4:04 pm

    Hi! Hello dearest Tuan Mr/Madam Thegame

    Thank YOU!

    Sorry but i do get emotional when i see how these cunning police and the “gangster” handle this “down to earth” peaceful human being, cornered helplessly and what more destroying their deities right in front of them. This is enough for me “not to vote for the responsible government of the day.
    YOu say:
    “I think if we just keep it on the subject and not get personal will do fine.”
    I thought the subject is about Samy and the contest not about the opposition being narrow and short term. Since you brought it up, I merely ask you to elaborate what do you mean by that ?
    Wow! who is getting personal here. At the end of your comment, you seem to suggest the current government as monster as well as the opposite. You do not seem like you have anything to share with your fellow Malaysian. Everyone MONSTER ?

    Not voting to me, meant it’s okay to suppress the minority and because of that I would’nt vote for the one that suppressed the peaceful people! that would be against my conscience, even if you think it’s not enough to warrant a call for change.

    By the way, no, don’t be personal as this is not a character assassination but just thinking out loud !

    REGARDS
    Yours Faithfully

  92. #92 by scorpian6666 on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 4:26 pm

    Uh oh! caught you! Thegame,
    character assassination …. for calling kanthanboy silly or rather speak before you think.
    Tell us how would the Opposition become strong without the people support ! To make the opposite strong, people including youself must vote for them. It’s not silly because the current government is not satisfactory.
    Does the current BN appeals to all Malaysian ? NO! Thus why is it that you keep mentioning the OPPOSITION MUST APPEAL TO ALL. Why the double standard ?

    Hope you are not playing game as your name suggest

  93. #93 by year of snake on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 4:26 pm

    Mr.Kanthanboy, you should not have listed out the 3rd option, ie not to vote. No wonder the BN won by landslide victories in the previous election because many people were in the group of your 3rd option. Remenber, “Bad Officials are also elected by Good Citizens who do not Vote”

  94. #94 by kanthanboy on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 4:36 pm

    “…we are begging. please please give us a good opposition”….Thegame
    ——————————–

    General election is expected to be held within 60 days. If the Opposition of today is not good enough for you, you won’t get a better one within the next 60 days. Put it bluntly, that is all you have, either you vote BN or vote Opposition. The only other choice is don’t vote.

  95. #95 by kanthanboy on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 4:49 pm

    Year of snake,
    It was never my intention to tell people not to vote. I have included the 3rd option as a matter of fact that you can exercise you right not to vote. I agree with you that by not voting you are actually helping BN to win.

  96. #96 by Captain on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 5:02 pm

    You all wrong lah.

    Sami Value was in India recently to look for film roles and see a special doctor. Somebody told him about a ayurvedic doctor who can make him look younger, the same doctor advised Morarji Desai ex India PM to drink his own urine to stay healthy and energetic.

    Semi Value will not stand for election. No chance to win. So he will now become actor producer of Tamil films. Maybe when he become superstar, he may come back to stand election or maybe try his luck in Tamil Nadu. Maybe become Chief Minister there.

    Actors in India have become politicians and Ministers and Chief Ministers. This is first time politicians going to become film star.

  97. #97 by naked taliban on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 6:57 pm

    Albert Einstein once said,
    The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil ; but because of the peoplewho don’t do anything about it.

    What is this ” DON’T VOTE AT ALL “

  98. #98 by Tickler on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 7:05 pm

    ..how can we vote for the opposition if their vision is narrow and short term.Which serve only a particular community.We want the opposition to serve all Malaysian and fight for all Malaysians.Is that too much to ask – Thegame

    Come come. By no stretch of the imagination can that be believed. The BN is of narrow vision and serves only a particular community(ies). Why go further – their party components reflect that.
    There is infinitely more malaysianess in the opposition parties. Unfortunately, BN have made the country sectarian-rife and the opp (or Govt In Waiting) has to defeat the BN at its own game. That should not prevent the various communities from exerting their malay_ asian-ness.
    That being said, my success rate has been pretty good so far(crossing the racial divide including malays, chinese n Indians). And I`m not even a member of any party. See it can be done. All that`s needed is lateral thinking. And faith in yourself.
    Best of luck.

  99. #99 by Colonel on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 10:25 pm

    “This is first time politicians going to become film star.” Captain

    What about a self-proclaimed pseudo political activist with a Kg. Attap education turning to being a porn star to pay his bills? That is a first too. Don’t think he can make it though since he does not have the equipment to go with the job.

  100. #100 by pky103 on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 11:28 pm

    If he is contesting, he should be ashamed of himself!

    I cannot possibly think of any palatable contributions that he has made over the last four years.

    STEP DOWN, SAMI.

  101. #101 by Count Dracula on Tuesday, 15 January 2008 - 12:46 am

    “What about a self-proclaimed pseudo political activist with a Kg. Attap education turning to being a porn star to pay his bills?” Kolonel

    You mean limkamput??

  102. #102 by limkamput on Tuesday, 15 January 2008 - 8:29 am

    [email protected]@[email protected]
    Don’t insult Kg Attap people. They are 100 times smarter and more successful than you all. What have you all got? SPM grade 2 or 3 with five credit. Oh, yes i know, some of you with a masters degree now. Which uni? Iwantogo Uni?

    [A few postings hijacking the blog to pursue perverse scores have already been disallowed and I am very disappointed that earlier pleas that we can disasgree strongly and even vehemently on this blog without being uncivil continue to be disregarded. The warning to put defaulters on the moderator list has not been implemented, but the first one to cross this line after this will be going up. – kit]

  103. #103 by AhPek on Tuesday, 15 January 2008 - 9:39 am

    Good on you,YB Kit.It’s about time you put a stop to this nonsense that has been going on for quite a while, otherwise your blog could degenerate into a forum for settling scores.

  104. #104 by Godfather on Tuesday, 15 January 2008 - 11:21 am

    Tickler says:

    “Bernama reported that Lah arrived in Spain on Sunday and would attend a who-know-what “First Alliance of Civilizations Annual Forum” on Tuesday!- posted by mendela

    Most appropriate. Now we all know that he`s gone to FAC (the acronym) in Spain.”

    Now we should all just tell him to FAC – AF (the full acronym).

  105. #105 by Chong Zhemin on Tuesday, 15 January 2008 - 6:30 pm

    I have not heard from him on the issue in the past three years and I do not know whether he had tabled the proposal in Cabinet and it got shot down or whether he never raised it in Cabinet at all.

  106. #106 by mablecp on Tuesday, 15 January 2008 - 7:09 pm

    At the time, Samy Vellu told Kula and I that it was a good proposal and that he would take it up to the Cabinet. I have not heard from him on the issue in the past three years and I do not know whether he had tabled the proposal in Cabinet and it got shot down or whether he never raised it in Cabinet at all

  107. #107 by DarkHorse on Tuesday, 15 January 2008 - 9:34 pm

    I hope the message finds its mark this time.

  108. #108 by limkamput on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 8:44 am

    The message is as applicable to you (darkhorse) as to many others including me. It seems to me that somehow others can make fun of me but I can’t make fun of others. But since Sdr Lim has chosen to post the warning directly below my posting, it is obvious that I am deemed the main culprit. I guess I have to accept that. But before I go, can Sdr Lim and others please read the posting by Dracula above (the one above the warning? I reproduce here just in case you don’t follow me).

    This is what Dracula said in response to Colonel’s: “What about a self-proclaimed pseudo political activist with a Kg. Attap education turning to being a porn star to pay his bills?” Kolonel
    You mean limkamput??”

    Sdr Lim, why can’t you post the warning in his posting instead?
    Who are darkhorse, colonel, Dracula, laifoong, and diaperhead anyway? It would seem that so many are against me, but are they actually the same one person? Is there a possibility that they are colluding in a private chat room first before they start to irritate others. You must see how they castrated Earnest earlier. May I know where is Earnest now?

  109. #109 by DarkHorse on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 9:44 am

    You returned to the blog and in quick time resorted to your old practice of making comments on commentators instead of commentators’ comments. I put you “on ignore” and told you so, to avoid interacting with you. That didn’t work as you kept referring to me in your postings. Then I thought perhaps if I apologized for annoying you with the “stupidity of my observations”, you’d stop – and to your credit you did.

    The Colonel even pleaded with you to communicate with him via his private e-mail which he gave you and asked that you not litter the blog with personal and irrelevant comments. But what did you do in return for the kind gesture?

    I cannot speak for the rest. What’s with Diaperhead?? He is nowhere to be seen.

    In cyberspace as you know you can choose to be whoever you want to be. What is relevant is that you show civility in your interaction with posters. In your brief absence from the blog, there was civility in the exchanges. That changed when you returned. There must be something in your writing that annoys some posters. You are personal with posters whereas what is important are the issues. You took upon yourself to reprimand posters when you feel they are wrong in their views. That cannot be right.

    I thought undergrad2 even congratulated you for abandoning your abrasive and confrontational way you chose to interact with posters generally. You then stopped going after him.

    You’re capable of providing intelligent input. You know that. Stop your wayward ways and I think everything will be fine.

    YB Kit merely “draw the line” after your posting and he is not singling you out.

    This is a serious political blog and I think all of us should treat it as such.

  110. #110 by ktteokt on Monday, 21 January 2008 - 10:58 pm

    After all the boo-boo’s he has made, do you think he will dare to show his face again in Sg Siput?

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