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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s historic Iowa victory should spur historic role by Malaysians Indians in next general election</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Count Dracula</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/06/obamas-historic-iowa-victory-should-spur-historic-role-by-malaysians-indians-in-next-general-election/#comment-68485</link>
		<dc:creator>Count Dracula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 01:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The above is meant for limkamfart who shows no respect for the  blog  and for the blogger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above is meant for limkamfart who shows no respect for the  blog  and for the blogger.</p>
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		<title>By: Count Dracula</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/06/obamas-historic-iowa-victory-should-spur-historic-role-by-malaysians-indians-in-next-general-election/#comment-68425</link>
		<dc:creator>Count Dracula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YB Kit devoted an entire thread to Barack Obama:


"Yesterday, political history was made at the other side of the world when a black American, Barack Obama, created an upset and won the Iowa Democratic Presidential Caucus, demonstrating that white Americans are prepared to elect a black president." YB Kit

So do not insult YB Kit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YB Kit devoted an entire thread to Barack Obama:</p>
<p>&#8220;Yesterday, political history was made at the other side of the world when a black American, Barack Obama, created an upset and won the Iowa Democratic Presidential Caucus, demonstrating that white Americans are prepared to elect a black president.&#8221; YB Kit</p>
<p>So do not insult YB Kit.</p>
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		<title>By: pulau_sibu</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/06/obamas-historic-iowa-victory-should-spur-historic-role-by-malaysians-indians-in-next-general-election/#comment-68178</link>
		<dc:creator>pulau_sibu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 02:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read a little bit about Obama. While you can use him to hint about the possible dream for the Malaysian Indians, I ask you to be careful. He was educated as a muslim, with a middle name Hussein. His biological father was a muslim from Kenya. His step father was an Indonesia, also a muslim. He attended muslim school in Jakarta. He still speaks Indonesian (or Malay). I don't know what is his religion now, but perhaps still tied to Islam? 

So this should be a possible dream for the Malays. So this is not a good example for Indians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read a little bit about Obama. While you can use him to hint about the possible dream for the Malaysian Indians, I ask you to be careful. He was educated as a muslim, with a middle name Hussein. His biological father was a muslim from Kenya. His step father was an Indonesia, also a muslim. He attended muslim school in Jakarta. He still speaks Indonesian (or Malay). I don&#8217;t know what is his religion now, but perhaps still tied to Islam? </p>
<p>So this should be a possible dream for the Malays. So this is not a good example for Indians.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigfoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bigfoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  Dejavu.  It's like Obama is singing to Malaysian Indians to spur them on in Election 2008! :-)

Barack OBollywood 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA-451XMsuY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  Dejavu.  It&#8217;s like Obama is singing to Malaysian Indians to spur them on in Election 2008! <img src='http://blog.limkitsiang.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Barack OBollywood<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA-451XMsuY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA-451XMsuY</a></p>
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		<title>By: oknyua</title>
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		<dc:creator>oknyua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 02:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following Bigjoeâ€™s argument: US is a country where a birth is accompanied by choices. It is a choice of possibilities. It is a privilege. 

In Malaysia, a birth itself is already accompanied by division. No, I donâ€™t think it really favours the Malays. In fact theirs is a pitiful state because over the long run, the Malays are at a clear disadvantage. The best example is the NEP and with its existence, just a little effort from them is enough to get them through â€“ is that situation going to last? Already the majority of unemployed graduates are the Malays. We read the graduates are applying for a job as taxi drivers! This happens in Myanmar. Are we proud we are moving in that direction?

Recent slogan is the "glocal" Malays. I donâ€™t know what that term means; I interpret it as an urging for Malays to have global outlook. Fine, I donâ€™t disagree. But look at the protection and unnecessary privileges they receive; I just donâ€™t think the policy encourage glocal Malays. 

I am writing this not out of malice, just the truth. The non-Malays see the world a flat playing field, being able to survive and feel accepted in US, Australia, UK etc. Our fellow commentator, undergrad2, for example; his children could be the next mayor of New York. The reason is simple: the non-Malays feel that opportunities are available to anyone. If Obama becomes the next US president, who knows the one after him could be the son of an Indian migrant from â€“ of course â€“ India. Could a Malaysian of Indian descent ever be the PM of Malaysia?

No, of course not, because from birth, a Malaysianâ€™s faith is already decided by skin colour. Many non-Malays are concerned, not envious. I am not envious certainly. But I am concern about the opportunities lost, concerned that we could be better, concerned that we are slowly falling behind. All because of a flat playing field in denied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following Bigjoeâ€™s argument: US is a country where a birth is accompanied by choices. It is a choice of possibilities. It is a privilege. </p>
<p>In Malaysia, a birth itself is already accompanied by division. No, I donâ€™t think it really favours the Malays. In fact theirs is a pitiful state because over the long run, the Malays are at a clear disadvantage. The best example is the NEP and with its existence, just a little effort from them is enough to get them through â€“ is that situation going to last? Already the majority of unemployed graduates are the Malays. We read the graduates are applying for a job as taxi drivers! This happens in Myanmar. Are we proud we are moving in that direction?</p>
<p>Recent slogan is the &#8220;glocal&#8221; Malays. I donâ€™t know what that term means; I interpret it as an urging for Malays to have global outlook. Fine, I donâ€™t disagree. But look at the protection and unnecessary privileges they receive; I just donâ€™t think the policy encourage glocal Malays. </p>
<p>I am writing this not out of malice, just the truth. The non-Malays see the world a flat playing field, being able to survive and feel accepted in US, Australia, UK etc. Our fellow commentator, undergrad2, for example; his children could be the next mayor of New York. The reason is simple: the non-Malays feel that opportunities are available to anyone. If Obama becomes the next US president, who knows the one after him could be the son of an Indian migrant from â€“ of course â€“ India. Could a Malaysian of Indian descent ever be the PM of Malaysia?</p>
<p>No, of course not, because from birth, a Malaysianâ€™s faith is already decided by skin colour. Many non-Malays are concerned, not envious. I am not envious certainly. But I am concern about the opportunities lost, concerned that we could be better, concerned that we are slowly falling behind. All because of a flat playing field in denied.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigjoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bigjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 00:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is truly a crime about Obama's candidacy is our defeatist attitude that it is not relevant to Malaysia. Oh... Its different in US.

The truth is its not. We are a multi-racial country as the US is. The forces that will determine our prosperity is NOT that different than that of the US. Our social problems are also not that different be it in poverty, drugs, education.

We are different in that, while we lack the size, we are also endowed with rich resources, high savings, few economic legacy problems, a very productive minority community. Everything else is just labels - race, religion - they are just labels.

There is absolutely no reason why we cannot grow faster than Singapore and losing to the likes of Philippine and hardly beating the likes of Thailand and Indonesia. The main difference is race  and corruption. Get at least one of that right (one can argue race is the easier one) and we are on our way to developed status by 2020. Not and there will be all sort of justification, contention and spin once that date comes near (and its not that far away), dividing us further and further..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is truly a crime about Obama&#8217;s candidacy is our defeatist attitude that it is not relevant to Malaysia. Oh&#8230; Its different in US.</p>
<p>The truth is its not. We are a multi-racial country as the US is. The forces that will determine our prosperity is NOT that different than that of the US. Our social problems are also not that different be it in poverty, drugs, education.</p>
<p>We are different in that, while we lack the size, we are also endowed with rich resources, high savings, few economic legacy problems, a very productive minority community. Everything else is just labels - race, religion - they are just labels.</p>
<p>There is absolutely no reason why we cannot grow faster than Singapore and losing to the likes of Philippine and hardly beating the likes of Thailand and Indonesia. The main difference is race  and corruption. Get at least one of that right (one can argue race is the easier one) and we are on our way to developed status by 2020. Not and there will be all sort of justification, contention and spin once that date comes near (and its not that far away), dividing us further and further..</p>
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		<title>By: kanthanboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kanthanboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œâ€¦Simply because DAP failed( again and again) to wrest Penang from BN does not mean that the chance is not there. It simply means that majority does not want him as the Chief Minister.â€ Shamshul anuar
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It is not the majority in Penang does not want YB Lim Kit Siang as the Chief Minister rather it is the unfair election system and BN corruption that deny the choice of the majority. Just to name a few of the unfair election system and corrupt practices: 

1) Vast discrepancies in the number of     voters between urban and rural constituencies.

2) BN control all the mainstream media.

3) Disbursement of government fund to bribe voters under the guise of development during election time.

4) Threat to cut off federal funding.

5) Threat of another May 13.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œâ€¦Simply because DAP failed( again and again) to wrest Penang from BN does not mean that the chance is not there. It simply means that majority does not want him as the Chief Minister.â€ Shamshul anuar<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>It is not the majority in Penang does not want YB Lim Kit Siang as the Chief Minister rather it is the unfair election system and BN corruption that deny the choice of the majority. Just to name a few of the unfair election system and corrupt practices: </p>
<p>1) Vast discrepancies in the number of     voters between urban and rural constituencies.</p>
<p>2) BN control all the mainstream media.</p>
<p>3) Disbursement of government fund to bribe voters under the guise of development during election time.</p>
<p>4) Threat to cut off federal funding.</p>
<p>5) Threat of another May 13.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/06/obamas-historic-iowa-victory-should-spur-historic-role-by-malaysians-indians-in-next-general-election/#comment-67894</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 21:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old Geezer,

Hilary is old school and represents the status quo. Americans want 'change'. A lot have turned Independents and many among them vote for Obama because he best represents 'change'.

Minutes ago Hilary went  on record to say that she, unlike Obama who talks about 'change', represents 'change' for the last 35 years. Everybody just fell of their chairs!

I don't trust Hilary. She who would change her position so often that the joke around Washington DC was that no man could keep up with her positions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old Geezer,</p>
<p>Hilary is old school and represents the status quo. Americans want &#8216;change&#8217;. A lot have turned Independents and many among them vote for Obama because he best represents &#8216;change&#8217;.</p>
<p>Minutes ago Hilary went  on record to say that she, unlike Obama who talks about &#8216;change&#8217;, represents &#8216;change&#8217; for the last 35 years. Everybody just fell of their chairs!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t trust Hilary. She who would change her position so often that the joke around Washington DC was that no man could keep up with her positions.</p>
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		<title>By: paix</title>
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		<dc:creator>paix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 21:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is common knowledge in the US that Silicon Valley was built on the backs of IC's, i.e. Indians and Chinese and not just integrated circuits. Indians and Chinese make up as much as 50% of the engineers working in Silicon Valley. Bodohland, don't marginalize the Indian and Chinese  segments of your population. They are very smart and talented and have a lot to offer. 
Ask any savvy businessman what is his most valuable asset in his business and 99.9999% of them will tell you that it is his employees; not his office equipment, factories, plants, vehicles, etc. The same is true of a country. It is just plain stupidity when you don't tap into the talent of at least 40% of your population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is common knowledge in the US that Silicon Valley was built on the backs of IC&#8217;s, i.e. Indians and Chinese and not just integrated circuits. Indians and Chinese make up as much as 50% of the engineers working in Silicon Valley. Bodohland, don&#8217;t marginalize the Indian and Chinese  segments of your population. They are very smart and talented and have a lot to offer.<br />
Ask any savvy businessman what is his most valuable asset in his business and 99.9999% of them will tell you that it is his employees; not his office equipment, factories, plants, vehicles, etc. The same is true of a country. It is just plain stupidity when you don&#8217;t tap into the talent of at least 40% of your population.</p>
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