Comments on: Unfree Penang Free School http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:21:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bravehrt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-2/#comment-181173 Bravehrt Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:58:20 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-181173 Below are the headmasters who have served the school: 1816-1821: Mr. J. Cox 1821-1822: Mr. Churcher 1822-1826: Mr. Porter 1826-1828: Mr. Anchant 1828-1843: Mr. J. C. Smith 1843-1846: Mr. Bruton 1846-1853: Mr. Fitzgerald 1853-1871: Mr. J. Clark 1871-1891: Mr. G. Griffin 1891-1904: Mr. W. Hargreaves 1904-1925: Mr. R. H. Pinhorn 1925-1926: Mr. W. Hamilton 1927-1928: Mr. D. R. Swaine 1928-1929: Mr. L. W. Arnold 1929-1931: Mr. D. W. McLeod 1931-1933: Mr. M. R. Holgate 1934-1946: Mr. L. W. Arnold 1947-1949: Mr. D. Roper 1949-1950: Mr. M. F. Crocopile 1950-1951: Mr. P. F. Howitt 1951-1957: Mr. J. E. Todt 1957-1963: Mr. J. M. B. Hughes 1963-1969: Mr. Tan Boon Lin 1969-1971: Mr. Poon Poh Kong 1972-1974: Mr. K. G. Yogam 1974-1979: Dr. Goon Fatt Chee 1979-1983: Mr. R. Visvanathan, P.J.K. 1983-1988: Mr. G. Krishna Iyer 1988-1993: Mr. Goh Hooi Beng 1993-2000: Mr. Hj. Ismail bin Ibramsa Jan 2000-Dec 2000: Mr. Abdul Rahman 2001-2006: Mr. Arabi Sulaiman, P.K.T. 2006-2006: Mr. Mohd Yusof bin Omar 2006-Present: Mr. Hj. Ramli bin Din See where the problem started? There were no muslim principals until 1993. 5 consecutive muslim principals and there you go with 'jawi'. Below are the headmasters who have served the school:

1816-1821: Mr. J. Cox
1821-1822: Mr. Churcher
1822-1826: Mr. Porter
1826-1828: Mr. Anchant
1828-1843: Mr. J. C. Smith
1843-1846: Mr. Bruton
1846-1853: Mr. Fitzgerald
1853-1871: Mr. J. Clark
1871-1891: Mr. G. Griffin
1891-1904: Mr. W. Hargreaves
1904-1925: Mr. R. H. Pinhorn
1925-1926: Mr. W. Hamilton
1927-1928: Mr. D. R. Swaine
1928-1929: Mr. L. W. Arnold
1929-1931: Mr. D. W. McLeod
1931-1933: Mr. M. R. Holgate
1934-1946: Mr. L. W. Arnold
1947-1949: Mr. D. Roper
1949-1950: Mr. M. F. Crocopile
1950-1951: Mr. P. F. Howitt
1951-1957: Mr. J. E. Todt
1957-1963: Mr. J. M. B. Hughes
1963-1969: Mr. Tan Boon Lin
1969-1971: Mr. Poon Poh Kong
1972-1974: Mr. K. G. Yogam
1974-1979: Dr. Goon Fatt Chee
1979-1983: Mr. R. Visvanathan, P.J.K.
1983-1988: Mr. G. Krishna Iyer
1988-1993: Mr. Goh Hooi Beng
1993-2000: Mr. Hj. Ismail bin Ibramsa
Jan 2000-Dec 2000: Mr. Abdul Rahman
2001-2006: Mr. Arabi Sulaiman, P.K.T.
2006-2006: Mr. Mohd Yusof bin Omar
2006-Present: Mr. Hj. Ramli bin Din

See where the problem started? There were no muslim principals until 1993.
5 consecutive muslim principals and there you go with ‘jawi’.

]]> By: Prryan http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-2/#comment-138794 Prryan Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:54:20 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-138794 I chance upon this website while surfing around. Being an old free as well, not really old lar ... although i "graduate" there and knew many friends there (5 years), not many of us really knew what is happening to the school. Not surprising the OFA is weak. While we were in school, we were taught that we should be proud of our school tie and everytime when we see some VIP or multi millionaires wearing the PFS tie, we will go "Hey, is that an Old Free!!??" and someone would say "yes" .... if PFS produce so many professionas and famous people, where are they now when the authorities are tearing down the foundation of the school ? Everyone, including me, were to blamed for being so reactive. We dont really care what is going on until its too late. If it takes one person and his wallet to change the history, how much do we people who really care need to donate to change it back ?? it is not too late, post it somewhere, pictures or something !!! put it under the PFS caption .... who knows, the Old/Ex-PFS cavalry might fight back .... "Fortis Atque Fidelis" ... that is all i want to learn, not to write it in Jawi !!! damn it I chance upon this website while surfing around.

Being an old free as well, not really old lar … although i “graduate” there and knew many friends there (5 years), not many of us really knew what is happening to the school. Not surprising the OFA is weak.

While we were in school, we were taught that we should be proud of our school tie and everytime when we see some VIP or multi millionaires wearing the PFS tie, we will go “Hey, is that an Old Free!!??” and someone would say “yes” …. if PFS produce so many professionas and famous people, where are they now when the authorities are tearing down the foundation of the school ?

Everyone, including me, were to blamed for being so reactive. We dont really care what is going on until its too late.

If it takes one person and his wallet to change the history, how much do we people who really care need to donate to change it back ??

it is not too late, post it somewhere, pictures or something !!! put it under the PFS caption …. who knows, the Old/Ex-PFS cavalry might fight back ….

“Fortis Atque Fidelis” … that is all i want to learn, not to write it in Jawi !!! damn it

]]> By: MrMalaysia http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-2/#comment-132370 MrMalaysia Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:33:07 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-132370 Percentage of Chinese students in SYS is also decreasing rapidly. Signs in BM are nw used to replace those in English. The metal badge which was once used is also no more. I don'y actually know if the situation in SYS can be rectified or not?! Percentage of Chinese students in SYS is also decreasing rapidly. Signs in BM are nw used to replace those in English. The metal badge which was once used is also no more. I don’y actually know if the situation in SYS can be rectified or not?!

]]> By: MrMalaysia http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-2/#comment-132368 MrMalaysia Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:29:42 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-132368 PFS isn't the only school facing that. In Perak, there's a school known as the Sultan Yussuf School (S.Y.S)`also having that similar prob, but its far worst then PFS. It was a former English school and is more than a 100 yrs old. The current Sultan of Perak and the owner of Sunway holdings, Tan Sri Jefrey Cheah are among the old boys of that school. Nw, that school i known as SMK Sultan Yussuf and it doesn't hv any of th english culture it used to hv before. PFS isn’t the only school facing that. In Perak, there’s a school known as the Sultan Yussuf School (S.Y.S)`also having that similar prob, but its far worst then PFS. It was a former English school and is more than a 100 yrs old. The current Sultan of Perak and the owner of Sunway holdings, Tan Sri Jefrey Cheah are among the old boys of that school. Nw, that school i known as SMK Sultan Yussuf and it doesn’t hv any of th english culture it used to hv before.

]]> By: Sharpwave http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-2/#comment-116000 Sharpwave Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:13:52 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-116000 To maulator, I am an old free and to tell you the truth, the education given was just barely enough to help us through our exams. We made most of our own studies. Some lecturers has no professional experience and even attitude. With all due honesty, students were very disappointed with the teachers provided. With all the changes in the school, even the teachers are leaving the school. Most of them are great teachers to begin with. However, we're not focusing on the racism any racism issue but rather the traditions and the redundancy actions made within the school compound. The thing is, where has the pride of being a free schooler gone to? Its a shame that many of our traditions were being tempered with as well. 1. The metal made badge into the cloth made. 2. The pride of being prefects were lost. 3. Mirrors were being placed all around the school for God knows why. 4. Placing a roller or something at the corner of the field and called it an antique was pure redundant which later became a sitting place for the student to wait for their cars after school, the roller thing looked better at its own original place and now its totally destroyed. How much did it cost and to build? 5. While talking about the money, one of the principal even put our school in debt. And then he left? In the end we had to collect funds from around the network (students and parents included) just to cover up the debts incurred. 6. Percentage of non-Islams decreasing 7. The standard for student's entry is getting easier. Students with very bad UPSR results entering the school? Then what's the point for trying hard. 8. The sign, why only English and Jawi? Where's BM, Mandarin and Tamil? 9. Being open-minded and not racist? Free to practice your religion? Some schools are not even allowed to have Christian Fellowship Societies. For example, in St. George Girl School and Convent Green Lane for what reason? Where's the freedom in religion? Therefore, management proven bad and it MATTERS~!!! To maulator,

I am an old free and to tell you the truth, the education given was just barely enough to help us through our exams. We made most of our own studies. Some lecturers has no professional experience and even attitude. With all due honesty, students were very disappointed with the teachers provided.

With all the changes in the school, even the teachers are leaving the school. Most of them are great teachers to begin with.

However, we’re not focusing on the racism any racism issue but rather the traditions and the redundancy actions made within the school compound.

The thing is, where has the pride of being a free schooler gone to? Its a shame that many of our traditions were being tempered with as well.

1. The metal made badge into the cloth made.
2. The pride of being prefects were lost.
3. Mirrors were being placed all around the school for God knows why.
4. Placing a roller or something at the corner of the field and called it an antique was pure redundant which later became a sitting place for the student to wait for their cars after school, the roller thing looked better at its own original place and now its totally destroyed. How much did it cost and to build?
5. While talking about the money, one of the principal even put our school in debt. And then he left? In the end we had to collect funds from around the network (students and parents included) just to cover up the debts incurred.
6. Percentage of non-Islams decreasing
7. The standard for student’s entry is getting easier. Students with very bad UPSR results entering the school? Then what’s the point for trying hard.
8. The sign, why only English and Jawi? Where’s BM, Mandarin and Tamil?
9. Being open-minded and not racist? Free to practice your religion? Some schools are not even allowed to have Christian Fellowship Societies. For example, in St. George Girl School and Convent Green Lane for what reason? Where’s the freedom in religion?

Therefore, management proven bad and it MATTERS~!!!

]]> By: maulator http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-1/#comment-83266 maulator Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:36:34 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-83266 To all readers; I am old free. I think mr.allen chee is afraid of his own shadows & is making a fuss out of nothing. let me explain. 1. Jawi is a system of alphabets for writing used in Malay language before the language was romanised near Independence. If you stroll aroud penang town (beach street & its vicinity, you can see a lot of Chinese shops' names spelled in Jawi! Is this degrading for you? True enough the alphabets in Jawi was derived from Arabic (so as Urdu alphabets)...but what is troubling you? Putting a signage written in Jawi in front of PFS does not mean others cannot practice their own religion, nor it does not degrade the the school! 2. Many of us don't bother sending children to school of Saints & Convents ... where there would be a big Christian cross in front of the school & in every classrooms ( though there would a lot of non-Christians in the school) Does this reflect the true neutrality? But why make fuss out of these matters? The important thing is education is delivered in proper! Why are you so worried about a Jawi signage being put up in front of PFS. You are never forced to embrace Islam! You are free to practice your religion. Be open minded...racism is not a good culture! Try to look things on a broad perspective. To all readers;

I am old free. I think mr.allen chee is afraid of his own shadows & is making a fuss out of nothing. let me explain.

1. Jawi is a system of alphabets for writing used in Malay language before the language was romanised near Independence. If you stroll aroud penang town (beach street & its vicinity, you can see a lot of Chinese shops’ names spelled in Jawi! Is this degrading for you? True enough the alphabets in Jawi was derived from Arabic (so as Urdu alphabets)…but what is troubling you? Putting a signage written in Jawi in front of PFS does not mean others cannot practice their own religion, nor it does not degrade the the school!

2. Many of us don’t bother sending children to school of Saints & Convents … where there would be a big Christian cross in front of the school & in every classrooms ( though there would a lot of non-Christians in the school) Does this reflect the true neutrality? But why make fuss out of these matters? The important thing is education is delivered in proper!
Why are you so worried about a Jawi signage being put up in front of PFS. You are never forced to embrace Islam! You are free to practice your religion.

Be open minded…racism is not a good culture! Try to look things on a broad perspective.

]]> By: oldfree http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-1/#comment-70185 oldfree Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:08:31 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-70185 A school is not just a place to study and obtain good results from examinations.I am an old Free and I am very proud to be one.Not because I earned good grades there(eventhough I DID do well) but I am proud because I was once part of the school rich with tradition and was famous world wide.It may not be a big deal to others who looked upon the jawi signage at the school entrance but it is to me.It felt like the reputation and rich traditions of the school had been tainted.I was shocked and really sad to see what the school had become.If they really wanted to write something about free school in an old language, they should do it in latin as 'fortis atque fidelis' is written in.That will help preserve the traditions of the school.I really feel that a suitable candidate for the principal of penang free school an old free or some one that really knows penang free school well.How many principals of PFS know the words 'Once a free,always a free.There is always an Old Free,never an Ex-Free'?How many principals of PFS can speak perfect English during assemblies?Only one which I know of.Encik Haji Ismail bin Ibramsa.I learned to be proud to be a Free when he was in charge.Never have I heard those words again after he retired.Maybe they do not know it, but those words also applies to teachers too.So teachers should be proud too and dedicate themselves to bring take Penang Free School to where it used to be.Above others. A school is not just a place to study and obtain good results from examinations.I am an old Free and I am very proud to be one.Not because I earned good grades there(eventhough I DID do well) but I am proud because I was once part of the school rich with tradition and was famous world wide.It may not be a big deal to others who looked upon the jawi signage at the school entrance but it is to me.It felt like the reputation and rich traditions of the school had been tainted.I was shocked and really sad to see what the school had become.If they really wanted to write something about free school in an old language, they should do it in latin as ‘fortis atque fidelis’ is written in.That will help preserve the traditions of the school.I really feel that a suitable candidate for the principal of penang free school an old free or some one that really knows penang free school well.How many principals of PFS know the words ‘Once a free,always a free.There is always an Old Free,never an Ex-Free’?How many principals of PFS can speak perfect English during assemblies?Only one which I know of.Encik Haji Ismail bin Ibramsa.I learned to be proud to be a Free when he was in charge.Never have I heard those words again after he retired.Maybe they do not know it, but those words also applies to teachers too.So teachers should be proud too and dedicate themselves to bring take Penang Free School to where it used to be.Above others.

]]> By: pohwatchdog http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-1/#comment-68521 pohwatchdog Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:23:41 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-68521 Mr. Lim Come to Ipoh Timur more often. Don't even see you. Check schools in Pinji. No Principal and teacher. Mr. Lim

Come to Ipoh Timur more often. Don’t even see you. Check schools in Pinji. No Principal and teacher.

]]> By: FreeNoMore http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-1/#comment-67422 FreeNoMore Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:58:59 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-67422 I am currently studying in Penang Free School. Sad to say, but Mr.Allen, to list out all the drastic changes the school administration/government made throughout these years is almost impossible. In fact, I cannot even keep track of the number of changes made since I enrolled in the school. To give you a plain and simple picture of it's current condition, 21 teachers were transferred into another school in the year 2007 alone. Most of them applied to do so. To compensate the damage, 28 new teachers came in. 18 are Malays. I am currently studying in Penang Free School. Sad to say, but Mr.Allen, to list out all the drastic changes the school administration/government made throughout these years is almost impossible. In fact, I cannot even keep track of the number of changes made since I enrolled in the school.

To give you a plain and simple picture of it’s current condition, 21 teachers were transferred into another school in the year 2007 alone. Most of them applied to do so.

To compensate the damage, 28 new teachers came in. 18 are Malays.

]]> By: allenc http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-1/#comment-66477 allenc Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:11:44 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-66477 typo...repeat: supersuji, can you send me a more elaborate explanations on the changes that happen to PFS to turnworks@gmail.com. Thanks May the force be with us. typo…repeat: supersuji, can you send me a more elaborate explanations on the changes that happen to PFS to turnworks@gmail.com. Thanks

May the force be with us.

]]> By: allenc http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-1/#comment-66476 allenc Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:10:32 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-66476 supersuji, can you send me a more elaborate elaborate changes that happen to PFS to turnworks@gmail.com. Thanks May the force be with us. supersuji, can you send me a more elaborate elaborate changes that happen to PFS to turnworks@gmail.com. Thanks

May the force be with us.

]]> By: supersuji http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-1/#comment-66387 supersuji Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:08:36 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-66387 i finished my studies in pfs dis year....first they changed the badge....den its s.m penang free....den the classes are re-named from..zamrud,delima... to amanah,budiman..and stuff...now durin the last day of my exam paper....there's some arabic word...... banyak hebat...my friends and i were shocked.. i finished my studies in pfs dis year….first they changed the badge….den its s.m penang free….den the classes are re-named from..zamrud,delima… to amanah,budiman..and stuff…now durin the last day of my exam paper….there’s some arabic word……
banyak hebat…my friends and i were shocked..

]]> By: Jonny http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-1/#comment-65522 Jonny Tue, 25 Dec 2007 05:49:22 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-65522 It's not just a dying school. It is a dying nation we're looking at. It’s not just a dying school. It is a dying nation we’re looking at.

]]> By: ktteokt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-1/#comment-65498 ktteokt Tue, 25 Dec 2007 03:39:29 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-65498 Why relate Jawi with Islam? Jawi is but a form of writing. Had the British not conquered and ruled Malaysia (then Malaya) for that few centuries, we would still be writing our Bahasa Malaysia in Jawi. What we learn today as Bahasa Malaysia is in fact a romanized form of original Bahasa Melayu, a mutation to be exact!!!! Why relate Jawi with Islam? Jawi is but a form of writing. Had the British not conquered and ruled Malaysia (then Malaya) for that few centuries, we would still be writing our Bahasa Malaysia in Jawi. What we learn today as Bahasa Malaysia is in fact a romanized form of original Bahasa Melayu, a mutation to be exact!!!!

]]> By: vincew http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-1/#comment-65267 vincew Mon, 24 Dec 2007 03:47:32 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-65267 As it has been said and mentioned, these will stop when there is only ONE. When everyone has left there will be only one. Look at our neighbour country; earlier there are more chance of life in the country before the unfortunate incident. Due to corruption pressing the hardcore poor to the limit; they reacted by cleaning out the race which claimed to be richer. Now the affected race is out from the country; the economy is totally gone, what is left is of their own ONE kind. Now they have to come here to work as maids, hardcore labour, XXXXX(you know what)... is this a better tomorrow for them? Will this be the same fate here? Wake up! As it has been said and mentioned, these will stop when there is only ONE. When everyone has left there will be only one.
Look at our neighbour country; earlier there are more chance of life in the country before the unfortunate incident. Due to corruption pressing the hardcore poor to the limit; they reacted by cleaning out the race which claimed to be richer. Now the affected race is out from the country; the economy is totally gone, what is left is of their own ONE kind. Now they have to come here to work as maids, hardcore labour, XXXXX(you know what)… is this a better tomorrow for them? Will this be the same fate here? Wake up!

]]> By: k1980 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-1/#comment-64971 k1980 Sun, 23 Dec 2007 00:13:55 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-64971 Look around, ask some questions and you will find that Penang Free School's PMR, SPM and STPM results are nothing compared to many other secondary schools in Penang. In time to come, it will even lose out to some unknown rural school. So why the big fuss about a dying school? Look around, ask some questions and you will find that Penang Free School’s PMR, SPM and STPM results are nothing compared to many other secondary schools in Penang. In time to come, it will even lose out to some unknown rural school. So why the big fuss about a dying school?

]]> By: match http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-1/#comment-64923 match Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:47:03 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-64923 Look guys at least there must be something that can be done to get people's attention on this. Remember Victoria Institution in the 70s or 80s when they wanted to change its name to SM JLN Hang Tuah? The whole school rallied about it and at last the premier 'cluster' school got to keep its historical name till now. Look guys at least there must be something that can be done to get people’s attention on this. Remember Victoria Institution in the 70s or 80s when they wanted to change its name to SM JLN Hang Tuah? The whole school rallied about it and at last the premier ‘cluster’ school got to keep its historical name till now.

]]> By: Tulip Crescent http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-1/#comment-64903 Tulip Crescent Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:36:50 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-64903 Why worry about signages? These are just outward signs. I am more worried about the culture subsisting in any school. For instance, next year's enrolment of more than 200 pupils in St George's Girls School in Penang will have no more than 50 non-Malay students. I am still wondering whether the national-type schools have been deserted. If so, why? The more Malaysian politicians get involved in any thing, the worse it gets. Our currency is now going south, with no sign of changing direction - despite the billions of ringgit we earn from our petrodollars. Why? What happens when the petrol stops flowing and we become a net oil importer? We may be looking at bringing a basket of notes to buy a loaf of bread. Haha Why worry about signages? These are just outward signs. I am more worried about the culture subsisting in any school.

For instance, next year’s enrolment of more than 200 pupils in St George’s Girls School in Penang will have no more than 50 non-Malay students.

I am still wondering whether the national-type schools have been deserted. If so, why?

The more Malaysian politicians get involved in any thing, the worse it gets.

Our currency is now going south, with no sign of changing direction – despite the billions of ringgit we earn from our petrodollars. Why?

What happens when the petrol stops flowing and we become a net oil importer? We may be looking at bringing a basket of notes to buy a loaf of bread. Haha

]]> By: cheng http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-1/#comment-64901 cheng Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:08:08 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-64901 @ allenc, Understood your stance, believe me, I am with you. I have seen things below the tip of the iceberg. We must voice out, you are right, otherwise these idiots will repeat the same thing like changing Jalan Koo Chong Kong to Jalan Tabing Haji. I am sure Kit remembers. Again due to years of racial polarization, I personally know some people who still think that pig is a sacred animal. We need to seek to understand, then to be understood... hehe, sorry, I plagiarize this from Dr. Stephen Covey. @ allenc,
Understood your stance, believe me, I am with you. I have seen things below the tip of the iceberg.
We must voice out, you are right, otherwise these idiots will repeat the same thing like changing Jalan Koo Chong Kong to Jalan Tabing Haji. I am sure Kit remembers.
Again due to years of racial polarization, I personally know some people who still think that pig is a sacred animal. We need to seek to understand, then to be understood… hehe, sorry, I plagiarize this from Dr. Stephen Covey.

]]> By: allenc http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/comment-page-1/#comment-64894 allenc Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:41:38 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/unfree-penang-free-school/#comment-64894 okay Cheng, thanks for your clarification that Jawi is not the language used in Quran. I've always wrongly thought otherwise. But I guess you have missed the tree for the forest. I will write the same thing and have the same stand even if it was written in chinese. The issue here is that this is not what Penang Free School is all about, and I think it's a wrong decision which is made without giving much any regard to the culture, tradition and legacy of the school and I am seeking the relevant personalities/authorities to explain or clarify their position. And as written, the signage issue is only the tip of the iceberg of the various issues affecting such similar schools. okay Cheng, thanks for your clarification that Jawi is not the language used in Quran. I’ve always wrongly thought otherwise. But I guess you have missed the tree for the forest. I will write the same thing and have the same stand even if it was written in chinese. The issue here is that this is not what Penang Free School is all about, and I think it’s a wrong decision which is made without giving much any regard to the culture, tradition and legacy of the school and I am seeking the relevant personalities/authorities to explain or clarify their position. And as written, the signage issue is only the tip of the iceberg of the various issues affecting such similar schools.

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