Comments on: No IPCMC “lion” with teeth and claws but a toothless/clawless SCC mouse http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/ for Malaysia Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:28:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: shaolin http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/#comment-65080 shaolin Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:31:00 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/#comment-65080 Truly IPCMC must be an Independent Body to any corruption in the Police Force!! No 2 ways about it!! Why Malaysia Government must take >2 years to set up such Task Force?? We can take only 2 months to do that man...??!! Where is the job efficiency..??!! Malaysia wake up!!! Don't sleep too long in the office when you are on duty and suppose to work...!!! Your Work Performance Annual Rating is Below 2.0 out of maximum points of 4.0...!! Real srewed up work force in Public Service...!!! Truly IPCMC must be an Independent Body to any
corruption in the Police Force!! No 2 ways about it!!

Why Malaysia Government must take >2 years to set
up such Task Force?? We can take only 2 months to
do that man…??!!

Where is the job efficiency..??!! Malaysia wake up!!!
Don’t sleep too long in the office when you are on
duty and suppose to work…!!!

Your Work Performance Annual Rating is Below 2.0
out of maximum points of 4.0…!! Real srewed up
work force in Public Service…!!!

]]> By: Jeffrey http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/#comment-64943 Jeffrey Sat, 22 Dec 2007 20:38:00 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/#comment-64943 //....Didn’t Samy Velu quickly thank the premier already, to make it look good on govt, maybe also to show that he had a part in it?...// - Jong Well if it were not thanking then it will be apologising. This ingratiating attitude towards big brother is really annoying (in the context of communal politics). Not only MIC but Gerakan. Predictably Gerakan will not support Paranjothy when UMNO roars in protest at his statement. //….Didn’t Samy Velu quickly thank the premier already, to make it look good on govt, maybe also to show that he had a part in it?…// - Jong

Well if it were not thanking then it will be apologising. This ingratiating attitude towards big brother is really annoying (in the context of communal politics). Not only MIC but Gerakan. Predictably Gerakan will not support Paranjothy when UMNO roars in protest at his statement.

]]> By: pwcheng http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/#comment-64906 pwcheng Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:46:11 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/#comment-64906 AAB, started off with a "A" rating when he was acting PM and he continues with the "A" rating during the 2004 election, and as a result obtained 92% of the seats. The "A" rating had come and gone and somehow the "B" rating had also been lost and he lost it very fast. Now he is in "C" descending very fast into "D". So please think carefully before voting. Do you want a grade "D" PM? AAB definitely downgraded to CCD. AAB, started off with a “A” rating when he was acting PM and he continues with the “A” rating during the 2004 election, and as a result obtained 92% of the seats. The “A” rating had come and gone and somehow the “B” rating had also been lost and he lost it very fast. Now he is in “C” descending very fast into “D”.
So please think carefully before voting. Do you want a grade “D” PM? AAB definitely downgraded to CCD.

]]> By: Colonel http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/#comment-64899 Colonel Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:24 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/#comment-64899 "SCC=Special Complaints Commission= STD Sexually Transmitted Disease." harrison bin handsome Talking about STD have you contracted the disease recently? Surely SCC means something else. “SCC=Special Complaints Commission= STD Sexually Transmitted Disease.” harrison bin handsome

Talking about STD have you contracted the disease recently? Surely SCC means something else.

]]> By: Jong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/#comment-64898 Jong Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:55:01 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/#comment-64898 Jeffrey, Didn't Samy Velu quickly thanked the premier already, to make it look good on govt, maybe also to show that he had a part in it? Jeffrey,
Didn’t Samy Velu quickly thanked the premier already, to make it look good on govt, maybe also to show that he had a part in it?

]]> By: hiro http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/#comment-64880 hiro Sat, 22 Dec 2007 14:57:42 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/#comment-64880 To answer k1980, I think TDM is not saying anything new. He said it before that people elected him again and again despite his use of ISA, so the rakyat actually wants the ISA. What is interesting is he also mentioned that public protests should be the last resort. You can probably take that as a tacit criticism of AAB. Memoranda, calls, requets, demands, appeals and pleas have all fallen on big but deaf ears. So it IS the last resort, and so by the support of TDM, peaceful protest is morally justifiable. To answer k1980, I think TDM is not saying anything new. He said it before that people elected him again and again despite his use of ISA, so the rakyat actually wants the ISA.

What is interesting is he also mentioned that public protests should be the last resort. You can probably take that as a tacit criticism of AAB. Memoranda, calls, requets, demands, appeals and pleas have all fallen on big but deaf ears. So it IS the last resort, and so by the support of TDM, peaceful protest is morally justifiable.

]]> By: k1980 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/#comment-64855 k1980 Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:02:15 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/#comment-64855 Mahathir: "We are a democratic country. If you elect people who believe in the ISA, the ISA will be there. If you don't like the ISA, don't vote people who believe in the ISA" Is he telling the Indians not to vote for BN? Mahathir: “We are a democratic country. If you elect people who believe in the ISA, the ISA will be there. If you don’t like the ISA, don’t vote people who believe in the ISA”

Is he telling the Indians not to vote for BN?

]]> By: Jeffrey http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/#comment-64826 Jeffrey Sat, 22 Dec 2007 08:06:40 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/#comment-64826 The question of Attorney-General Tan Sri Gani Patail’s tendering a public apology for the 403 days of incarceration he had caused the Batu Caves 31 does not arise because as far as he is concerned: - · the 31 were in law chargeable for attempted murder based on common intention; · the withdrawal of such a charge was due to deference to the intervention of the Prime Minister on humanitarian and national reconciliation grounds, which don’t include the predetermination that the 31 are innocent of the charge. All things considered the 31 should thank him. Can we have a round of applause for the AG & government? :) Whilst “all the international best practices in other advanced countries for an effective oversight mechanism over police conduct is for it to be completely independent, excluding all police participation ”, the government of Malaysia has neither claimed that we’re an “advanced nation” nor expressed any aspiration for international best practices since the aggressive pursuit of the NEP does not qualify as one of international best practices. If anything, it may well be the worst being criticized by critics here and in advanced countries as the sole remaining architecture of apartheid after South Africa. So by having “a toothless and clawless SCC mouse” instead of a “lion” with teeth and claws” like IPCMC, the real question is not whether Malaysia is “buckling this trend of international best practices” but whether Malaysia is buckling this trend of international worst practices! Can we have another round of applause for the government? :) The question of Attorney-General Tan Sri Gani Patail’s tendering a public apology for the 403 days of incarceration he had caused the Batu Caves 31 does not arise because as far as he is concerned: -

· the 31 were in law chargeable for attempted murder based on common intention;

· the withdrawal of such a charge was due to deference to the intervention of the Prime Minister on humanitarian and national reconciliation grounds, which don’t include the predetermination that the 31 are innocent of the charge.

All things considered the 31 should thank him. Can we have a round of applause for the AG & government? :)

Whilst “all the international best practices in other advanced countries for an effective oversight mechanism over police conduct is for it to be completely independent, excluding all police participation ”, the government of Malaysia has neither claimed that we’re an “advanced nation” nor expressed any aspiration for international best practices since the aggressive pursuit of the NEP does not qualify as one of international best practices. If anything, it may well be the worst being criticized by critics here and in advanced countries as the sole remaining architecture of apartheid after South Africa.

So by having “a toothless and clawless SCC mouse” instead of a “lion” with teeth and claws” like IPCMC, the real question is not whether Malaysia is “buckling this trend of international best practices” but whether Malaysia is buckling this trend of international worst practices! Can we have another round of applause for the government? :)

]]> By: harrisonbinhansome http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/#comment-64809 harrisonbinhansome Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:30:28 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/no-ipcmc-lion-with-teeth-and-claws-but-a-toothlessclawless-scc-mouse/#comment-64809 "All the international best practices in other advanced countries for an effective oversight mechanism over police conduct is for it to be completely independent, excluding all police participation"--Lim Kit Siang. Yes Sir, common understanding by the mildest of logics. The SCC is merely the case of self-appointments of dichotomy of the Police force stretching the IGP's outgareous powers to an invincible extent if the ludicrous proposal, the SCC is ever enacted. If any cabinet minister/lawmakers has a smidgen respect for the truth, they MUST vehemently veto such outgareous BILL-SCC (the fake IPCMC) which will only benefits the corrupts. In any civilised country, public opinion is sought before the implementation of such 'Indepenent' commission, but here it was sought as well during the nationwide tour by the fact-finding Royal Commission. The only difference is the blatant outcome which clearly enunciates that we are clearly being conned or almost there. SCC=Special Complaints Commission= STD Sexually Transmitted Disease. “All the international best practices in other advanced countries for an effective oversight mechanism over police conduct is for it to be completely independent, excluding all police participation”–Lim Kit Siang.

Yes Sir, common understanding by the mildest of logics. The SCC is merely the case of self-appointments of dichotomy of the Police force stretching the IGP’s outgareous powers to an invincible extent if the ludicrous proposal, the SCC is ever enacted.

If any cabinet minister/lawmakers has a smidgen respect for the truth, they MUST vehemently veto such outgareous BILL-SCC (the fake IPCMC) which will only benefits the corrupts.

In any civilised country, public opinion is sought before the implementation of such ‘Indepenent’ commission, but here it was sought as well during the nationwide tour by the fact-finding Royal Commission. The only difference is the blatant outcome which clearly enunciates that we are clearly being conned or almost there.

SCC=Special Complaints Commission= STD Sexually Transmitted Disease.

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