Comments on: Fake thesis and pseud-PhDs – why no action by Mustapha and higher education ministry? http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:12:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: buntal http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-68285 buntal Tue, 08 Jan 2008 07:44:06 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-68285 A scenario that happens to those who get PhD locally once upon a time......I, from University X check your thesis from University Y. Long time ago, they wrote their thesis in BM and it's definitely impossible for international scholars to comprehend. Therefore, it is up to this guy from University Y to comment on what that guy from University X did. If he's his friend, surely the PhD title is confirmed his. Another funny but embarassing scenario is that a PhD with his or her thesis written in BM, had a difficulty to translate it in English when required by a layman. Couldn't even present his or her idea to ordinary people. The quality is very questionable. I know those out there trapped in these 2 situations will not admit. ;P A scenario that happens to those who get PhD locally once upon a time……I, from University X check your thesis from University Y. Long time ago, they wrote their thesis in BM and it’s definitely impossible for international scholars to comprehend. Therefore, it is up to this guy from University Y to comment on what that guy from University X did. If he’s his friend, surely the PhD title is confirmed his.

Another funny but embarassing scenario is that a PhD with his or her thesis written in BM, had a difficulty to translate it in English when required by a layman. Couldn’t even present his or her idea to ordinary people. The quality is very questionable. I know those out there trapped in these 2 situations will not admit. ;P

]]> By: buntal http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-68283 buntal Tue, 08 Jan 2008 07:30:35 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-68283 I graduated from an Australian university but did my diploma in one of the oldest tertiary institutions in Malaysia. I can see the difference of how these 2 treat plagiarism. The former one, when a student does not do proper referencing using either Harvard or Oxford Referencing System, he or she would not get any mark for any single word written. On top of that, he or she will be considered plagiarising and this student may be dismissed from his or her course. On the other hand, this local tertiary of education of that we have here would not even mind where a source is obtained from. Who cares if an individual jotted down the whole content from any book and make it as his or her ideas? He or she will still get high mark for that assignment or thesis as long as it is submitted and something is written inside. No in-text references and no bibliography. Is that what we call quality??? It's a shame to call oneself a Masters or PhD holder if this really happens. They can lie to people but not to themselves and God. I graduated from an Australian university but did my diploma in one of the oldest tertiary institutions in Malaysia. I can see the difference of how these 2 treat plagiarism. The former one, when a student does not do proper referencing using either Harvard or Oxford Referencing System, he or she would not get any mark for any single word written. On top of that, he or she will be considered plagiarising and this student may be dismissed from his or her course.

On the other hand, this local tertiary of education of that we have here would not even mind where a source is obtained from. Who cares if an individual jotted down the whole content from any book and make it as his or her ideas? He or she will still get high mark for that assignment or thesis as long as it is submitted and something is written inside. No in-text references and no bibliography. Is that what we call quality??? It’s a shame to call oneself a Masters or PhD holder if this really happens. They can lie to people but not to themselves and God.

]]> By: mayfoo02 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-67565 mayfoo02 Sat, 05 Jan 2008 05:49:20 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-67565 Plagiarism, academic fraud and malpractices have been prevalent in our local universities for a long time. It is just that they have never been reported because they are considered as non-issues. If there is anyone who knows of such incidences and feel uncomfortable about it, there would be grumbles but would be very quickly forgotten. Very few people in education at all levels ( not only in universities ) actually talk about plagiarism seriously, much less look at it as an ethical issue.However, taking the Minister of Higher Education and his Deputy to task for this malady in our local universities would not address the root of the problem though one can argue that at least someone needs to do something and that someone should be the Minister himself. Instead, it would be wise for us to look at the wider implications of this problem. Doesn't this imply one very important and glaring flaw in our university students, i.e they lack the linguistic, study and research skills that are so necessary in preparing and writing their theses? Hence, the scurry for help at whatever cost. If this is the case, then should the universities be held solely responsible for the paucity of these students? Yes, definitely, at least to the extent where they have failed to impress upon the students that plagiarism, academic fraud and malpractices are issues that they take seriously and anyone who is caught committing any one of these offences does not deserve a place there.But, what about the early education providers, i.e the primary and secondary schools? Shouldn't they be held accountable for what is happening as well? All too often, when a problem occurs in institutions of tertiary education all fingers would point to them as the culprit. Very few people actually realise that the root of the problem starts in the schools where these students had their primary and secondary education. These schools are entrusted with a very heavy responsibility of providing a positive learning environment for children to develop their potential thus also preparing them for tertiary education if and when the opportunity arises. However, the question is, are our schools actually doing this or are they caught in the delusion that they are but they are really not. Let's look at some examples of the current practices in our schools. 1) Most teachers in primary schools especially those in the urban areas adopt a "copy the answers into your exercise books" approach, either from their boards or their textbooks. Ask any Year 6 child especially those from the Chinese primary schools how many "karangans" and essays they have to copy into their exercise books in a year and you'll be shocked. Of course all this is done with the misguided belief that practice makes perfect. True it does, but not this kind of mindless practice! And wouldn't encouraging this amount to inculcating the belief that copying aka plagiarism as acceptable culture? 2) Another rampant practice in secondary schools is to provide samples of coursework done by students from previous years to their current batch of students all in the name of helping them. However, most teachers ( though not all ) allow their students to borrow from the archives of students' work which they keep, thus allowing them to copy with very minimal changes. Again many teachers, rightly or wrongly, just browse through the work handed in and give a mark ( usually a high one unless it's an extreme case) without checking to see if the work is copied. All these with the self justified reason of "why make it so difficult for them when other schools are also helping their students out with the marks?" After all, it doesn't matter whether they have breached an ethical principle as long as they have helped their students get an "A" and their schools chalk up a high percentage of passes and distinctions. It's the reputation that's more important than understanding the ethics underlying the action. Again, wouldn't this be setting the precedence for a society to view such practices as acceptable culture? There are are many more malpractices that pervade in our schools that could fill a whole book. Suffice to say that the rot in our education system is not confined to our institutions of tertiary education. It started in the schools, is allowed to proliferate and now it is manifested in the form of our skill-impoverished local undergraduates. So, Mr. Lim Sir, besides the alternative budget Tony Pua presented on behalf of your party, why not think about an alternative education blueprint drawn up from the input of sincere,capable apolitical educators? That might help in the long run towards the development of human capital in our country.Cheers Plagiarism, academic fraud and malpractices have been prevalent in our local universities for a long time. It is just that they have never been reported because they are considered as non-issues. If there is anyone who knows of such incidences and feel uncomfortable about it, there would be grumbles but would be very quickly forgotten. Very few people in education at all levels ( not only in universities ) actually talk about plagiarism seriously, much less look at it as an ethical issue.However, taking the Minister of Higher Education and his Deputy to task for this malady in our local universities would not address the root of the problem though one can argue that at least someone needs to do something and that someone should be the Minister himself. Instead, it would be wise for us to look at the wider implications of this problem. Doesn’t this imply one very important and glaring flaw in our university students, i.e they lack the linguistic, study and research skills that are so necessary in preparing and writing their theses? Hence, the scurry for help at whatever cost. If this is the case, then should the universities be held solely responsible for the paucity of these students? Yes, definitely, at least to the extent where they have failed to impress upon the students that plagiarism, academic fraud and malpractices are issues that they take seriously and anyone who is caught committing any one of these offences does not deserve a place there.But, what about the early education providers, i.e the primary and secondary schools? Shouldn’t they be held accountable for what is happening as well? All too often, when a problem occurs in institutions of tertiary education all fingers would point to them as the culprit. Very few people actually realise that the root of the problem starts in the schools where these students had their primary and secondary education. These schools are entrusted with a very heavy responsibility of providing a positive learning environment for children to develop their potential thus also preparing them for tertiary education if and when the opportunity arises. However, the question is, are our schools actually doing this or are they caught in the delusion that they are but they are really not. Let’s look at some examples of the current practices in our schools.
1) Most teachers in primary schools especially those in the urban areas adopt a “copy the answers into your exercise books” approach, either from their boards or their textbooks. Ask any Year 6 child especially those from the Chinese primary schools how many “karangans” and essays they have to copy into their exercise books in a year and you’ll be shocked. Of course all this is done with the misguided belief that practice makes perfect. True it does, but not this kind of mindless practice! And wouldn’t encouraging this amount to inculcating the belief that copying aka plagiarism as acceptable culture?
2) Another rampant practice in secondary schools is to provide samples of coursework done by students from previous years to their current batch of students all in the name of helping them. However, most teachers ( though not all ) allow their students to borrow from the archives of students’ work which they keep, thus allowing them to copy with very minimal changes. Again many teachers, rightly or wrongly, just browse through the work handed in and give a mark ( usually a high one unless it’s an extreme case) without checking to see if the work is copied. All these with the self justified reason of “why make it so difficult for them when other schools are also helping their students out with the marks?” After all, it doesn’t matter whether they have breached an ethical principle as long as they have helped their students get an “A” and their schools chalk up a high percentage of passes and distinctions. It’s the reputation that’s more important than understanding the ethics underlying the action. Again, wouldn’t this be setting the precedence for a society to view such practices as acceptable culture? There are are many more malpractices that pervade in our schools that could fill a whole book. Suffice to say that the rot in our education system is not confined to our institutions of tertiary education. It started in the schools, is allowed to proliferate and now it is manifested in the form of our skill-impoverished local
undergraduates. So, Mr. Lim Sir, besides the alternative budget Tony Pua presented on behalf of your party, why not think about an alternative education blueprint drawn up from the input of sincere,capable apolitical educators? That might help in the long run towards the development of human capital in our country.Cheers

]]> By: ktteokt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-65943 ktteokt Thu, 27 Dec 2007 02:12:43 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-65943 If Chua Soi Lek can represent someone in offering an apology, I don't see why one graduate cannot represent another in writing theses! Just another instance of MALAYSIA BOLEH! If Chua Soi Lek can represent someone in offering an apology, I don’t see why one graduate cannot represent another in writing theses! Just another instance of MALAYSIA BOLEH!

]]> By: Jonny http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-65525 Jonny Tue, 25 Dec 2007 05:50:34 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-65525 Everything can be bought here in Malaysia. Even the life of a Mongolian. Everything can be bought here in Malaysia. Even the life of a Mongolian.

]]> By: ktteokt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-65497 ktteokt Tue, 25 Dec 2007 03:34:06 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-65497 Just another case of "MALAYSIA BOLEH!" Just another case of “MALAYSIA BOLEH!”

]]> By: helpless http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-65366 helpless Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:35:04 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-65366 The reply is very simple. Question : Why you hesitate to take action? Mustafa : This is my direct selling product. I sell PhD too.......? The reply is very simple.

Question : Why you hesitate to take action?
Mustafa : This is my direct selling product. I sell PhD too…….?

]]> By: ahoo http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-65338 ahoo Mon, 24 Dec 2007 07:37:08 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-65338 What can we expect our Universities to produce when the education systems was turn upside down in the 70s' ? Those who were around that period can fully understand and appreciate the good old days of GCE ! With the change in policy and the fervent pursuit of NEP agenda, we have what we witness today. What you sow, you shall reap ! We must only vote in people with integrity and honesty. Who are willing to serve the people and at the same time have fear of God in their hearts - no matter what religion they profess, then only will there be a solution for Malaysia. Am I dreaming or thinking of heaven on earth ? The problems are not limited to the govt. Universities but I think there are many fake PhDs lecturing in local private colleges as well as with the title the pay is obviously going to be higher. Maybe someone can start to gather facts and figures on " bogus degrees " from diploma mills out there and post it to shame them for short-cutting the honorable educational system. The day when our bn ministers can proudly enrol their sons and daughters in the local schools will be the day we know that the rots have been taken care off ! Good day to all and may the coming election be a day where we can be proud to call ourselves Malaysian again to have played our rightful role as a voter. Vote wisely and No to excesses. What can we expect our Universities to produce when the education systems was turn upside down in the 70s’ ? Those who were around that period can fully understand and appreciate the good old days of GCE !

With the change in policy and the fervent pursuit of NEP agenda, we have what we witness today. What you sow, you shall reap !

We must only vote in people with integrity and honesty. Who are willing to serve the people and at the same time have fear of God in their hearts – no matter what religion they profess, then only will there be a solution for Malaysia. Am I dreaming or thinking of heaven on earth ?

The problems are not limited to the govt. Universities but I think there are many fake PhDs lecturing in local private colleges as well as with the title the pay is obviously going to be higher. Maybe someone can start to gather facts and figures on ” bogus degrees ” from diploma mills out there and post it to shame them for short-cutting the honorable educational system.

The day when our bn ministers can proudly enrol their sons and daughters in the local schools will be the day we know that the rots have been taken care off !

Good day to all and may the coming election be a day where we can be proud to call ourselves Malaysian again to have played our rightful role as a voter. Vote wisely and No to excesses.

]]> By: Jimm http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-65234 Jimm Mon, 24 Dec 2007 02:09:27 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-65234 Education is the next biggest commercial to Malaysian. We just keep paying to get result where it matters most. At the end of everything, our children just spend their time on drugs to get over their life meaning as they are only living in their parents' world. Education is the next biggest commercial to Malaysian.
We just keep paying to get result where it matters most.
At the end of everything, our children just spend their time on drugs to get over their life meaning as they are only living in their parents’ world.

]]> By: takkan_hilang_india_didunia http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-65211 takkan_hilang_india_didunia Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:53:33 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-65211 Dear Woger Rilco, Hi there. First of all, when you refer to another note from the blog, please mention where are you refering from. You mentioned that " Who was the wise-crack that brought up plagarism as the “biggest issue” to plague our education system? Had they not done their homework?". I tried checking by word/phrase search on who said that plagiarism was the 'biggest issue', but I couldn't find. Please try to be specific on where you are quoting from. From my experience, I had first hand experience as a student who conducted an independent research thats publishable and also had an experience as a lecturer/instructor witnessing a student who was trying to plagiarize. Please share your personal experiences with plagiarism ( if any ). Perhaps then, we would be in the same plane to discuss without any of us to do our 'homework'. I'm writing this to promote good debate to nail doen an issue with facts, figures and personal experiences. Thanks. Dear Woger Rilco,
Hi there. First of all, when you refer to another note from the blog, please mention where are you refering from. You mentioned that ” Who was the wise-crack that brought up plagarism as the “biggest issue” to plague our education system? Had they not done their homework?”. I tried checking by word/phrase search on who said that plagiarism was the ‘biggest issue’, but I couldn’t find. Please try to be specific on where you are quoting from.
From my experience, I had first hand experience as a student who conducted an independent research thats publishable and also had an experience as a lecturer/instructor witnessing a student who was trying to plagiarize.
Please share your personal experiences with plagiarism ( if any ).
Perhaps then, we would be in the same plane to discuss without any of us to do our ‘homework’.
I’m writing this to promote good debate to nail doen an issue with facts, figures and personal experiences.
Thanks.

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-65170 limkamput Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:11:29 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-65170 sorry, forget to add, i am sure no need GMAT/GRE right? May be you never heard of this before, but then.... sorry, forget to add, i am sure no need GMAT/GRE right? May be you never heard of this before, but then….

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-65169 limkamput Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:09:38 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-65169 DarkHorse Says: Sir, I don’t know undergrad. I have already got my Masters a long time ago, sir. You may want to check if your degree is fake. owah, so clever ar, masters in what? Admission creteria, spm three credits with 5 years low paying working experience is it? Which uni? "Iwantogo University"? DarkHorse Says:
Sir, I don’t know undergrad. I have already got my Masters a long time ago, sir. You may want to check if your degree is fake.

owah, so clever ar, masters in what? Admission creteria, spm three credits with 5 years low paying working experience is it? Which uni? “Iwantogo University”?

]]> By: digard http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-65162 digard Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:33:44 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-65162 chuchueey: "In many universities all one needs to do is get appointed to a deanship or assistant VC post and after some years of pen pushing and paper shuffling, and presto! the honorary chain of titles become longer, like Prof Datuk Dr so-and-so. The award is based on administrative ability, not academic research and publications." Spot on! He, chuchueey, do I happen to know you? Do we happen to have contacts in the same universities? Or is this simply rampant all over the place? chuchueey: “In many universities all one needs to do is get appointed to a deanship or assistant VC post and after some years of pen pushing and paper shuffling, and presto! the honorary chain of titles become longer, like Prof Datuk Dr so-and-so. The award is based on administrative ability, not academic research and publications.”

Spot on!
He, chuchueey, do I happen to know you? Do we happen to have contacts in the same universities? Or is this simply rampant all over the place?

]]> By: Woger Rilco http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-65147 Woger Rilco Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:48:22 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-65147 Who was the wise-crack that brought up plagarism as the "biggest issue" to plague our education system? Had they not done their homework? The core of our problem is the Malaysian so-called-universities and colleges alike - greedy, money-making, exploitationist, KLSE-listed, ignorant machinations that could care less about the academic (and overall) well being of their staff and students. Even if it means cutting down on the essence of what they exist for. With less lecturers and teaching staff, most are overworked and forced to teach subject matter completely irrelevant to their qualifications leading to utter degradation of teaching quality, passed on to the poor students who would understand little of what that is taught, as would the teacher, having no basics nor background in it - provided the teachers even have the time to review the material, having to squeeze it between the long and heavy hours at work, piles of assignments to check, and what little time they can hope to scavange for their personal life. Ultimately, students would then go on to write their thesis papers with insufficient grounding, guidance and know-how. There's my opinion. So what do you think the problem is? Who was the wise-crack that brought up plagarism as the “biggest issue” to plague our education system? Had they not done their homework?

The core of our problem is the Malaysian so-called-universities and colleges alike – greedy, money-making, exploitationist, KLSE-listed, ignorant machinations that could care less about the academic (and overall) well being of their staff and students. Even if it means cutting down on the essence of what they exist for.

With less lecturers and teaching staff, most are overworked and forced to teach subject matter completely irrelevant to their qualifications leading to utter degradation of teaching quality, passed on to the poor students who would understand little of what that is taught, as would the teacher, having no basics nor background in it – provided the teachers even have the time to review the material, having to squeeze it between the long and heavy hours at work, piles of assignments to check, and what little time they can hope to scavange for their personal life. Ultimately, students would then go on to write their thesis papers with insufficient grounding, guidance and know-how.

There’s my opinion. So what do you think the problem is?

]]> By: chgchksg128 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-65103 chgchksg128 Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:21:41 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-65103 http://2hard2lie.blogspot.com/2007_11_01_archive.html Before the STPM and SPM result come out next year, I am planning to write an article of "Don't celebrate ven you get straight As". Straights As from chn and ind gurantee u nothing...the sad story will continue...and I suppose that article can be use for another 50 years. But the link above is article of the poor local uni ranking http://2hard2lie.blogspot.com/2007_11_01_archive.html
Before the STPM and SPM result come out next year, I am planning to write an article of “Don’t celebrate ven you get straight As”.
Straights As from chn and ind gurantee u nothing…the sad story will continue…and I suppose that article can be use for another 50 years.
But the link above is article of the poor local uni ranking

]]> By: smartee http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-65094 smartee Sun, 23 Dec 2007 08:22:16 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-65094 Yes, things in Malaysia sure looks gloomy. The way I see it, "All Malaysians are treated equal... but some are more equal than others..." Be ready to show your displeasure in the "kambing" Election? Yes, things in Malaysia sure looks gloomy. The way I see it, “All Malaysians are treated equal… but some are more equal than others…” Be ready to show your displeasure in the “kambing” Election?

]]> By: shaolin http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-65078 shaolin Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:22:16 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-65078 Retired lecturers writing Ph D and M Sc./ M.A. thesis.. with the following price tags; Ph D. - RM15,300.00 M. Sc - RM13,000.00 M. A. - RM12,000.00 Lucrative businesses for retired lecturers, isn't it?? Our supposedly respected Scholars from Universiti XXX turned 'thesis writers' as part time 'petition writers' too!! Senior lecturers must have some 'code ethic' and conduct ethic...to their professions??!! This only can happen in Malaysia...!! Malaysia Semua Boleh...!!! Part time thesis writers also can ma....?! Retired lecturers writing Ph D and M Sc./ M.A. thesis..
with the following price tags;

Ph D. – RM15,300.00
M. Sc – RM13,000.00
M. A. – RM12,000.00

Lucrative businesses for retired lecturers, isn’t it??
Our supposedly respected Scholars from Universiti XXX
turned ‘thesis writers’ as part time ‘petition writers’ too!!

Senior lecturers must have some ‘code ethic’ and conduct
ethic…to their professions??!! This only can happen in
Malaysia…!! Malaysia Semua Boleh…!!! Part time thesis
writers also can ma….?!

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-65052 limkamput Sun, 23 Dec 2007 05:56:11 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-65052 DarkHorse Says: I’m glad you see the light, my friend! What took you so long? how can a blind man see light. it is puzzling! DarkHorse Says: I’m glad you see the light, my friend! What took you so long?

how can a blind man see light. it is puzzling!

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-2/#comment-65034 limkamput Sun, 23 Dec 2007 05:17:17 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-65034 You’d do us a service if you could list here their credentials for us. - condemn singh Look, despite whatever shortcomings, all cabinet ministers are more educated and smarter than you and also morally more upright than you. what have you got, spm grade2, stpm part cert, a lousy degre from one money making uni somewhere in europe or usa? phua tam sai people. You’d do us a service if you could list here their credentials for us. – condemn singh

Look, despite whatever shortcomings, all cabinet ministers are more educated and smarter than you and also morally more upright than you. what have you got, spm grade2, stpm part cert, a lousy degre from one money making uni somewhere in europe or usa? phua tam sai people.

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-65031 limkamput Sun, 23 Dec 2007 05:13:35 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/22/fake-thesis-and-pseud-phds-why-no-action-by-mustapha-and-higher-education-ministry/#comment-65031 Some may even be kissing his feet if not other parts of the human anatomy. undergrad2 yes, you are the first in line for that other part of the anatomy. i have no doubt at all. Some may even be kissing his feet if not other parts of the human anatomy. undergrad2

yes, you are the first in line for that other part of the anatomy. i have no doubt at all.

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