Comments on: Gani owes public apology to Batu Caves 31 for travesty of justice of total incarceration of 403 days http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/ for Malaysia Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:18:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Shymasundara http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/#comment-97273 Shymasundara Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:50:57 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/#comment-97273 I is with great concern i am giving my views especially when news that Uthayakumar is very ill due to lack of proper medical attention. Maybe the people need to be mobilised again to send a strong message to the slow and deaf government. Are they waiting for him to die so that peoples anger be further aroused. Hindraf, PKR, PAS and DAP should call for a day of prayer and fasting for not only the Hindraf 5 but also all ISA detainees. Just one day mass prayer at all Mosques, Temples, Churches, Gurdhwaras and other house of worship nationwide. Just one day let us appeal to "GOD". Religious leaders come on show your solidarity. Lets show that all religions can coexist peacufully and effectively. Boycott all activity for that one day and send a strong message peacefully. No one should work on that day. Busses, cars, trucks, taxis will all come to a stand still. Hopefully then in that silence Pak Lah the "religious god fearing man" will able to hear something and take a positive step. Alternatively charge them in court and let the learned judges decide the merits of the case. Lets organise it. SMS people to boycott any activity on a chosen day. Everyone should proceed to their respective house of worship and fast for one day. Please everybody no one expected the effects of " Makkal Sakthi" please respond. I propose that Friday 18 April should be declared a day of "Prayer and Fasting". Feed back please. Thank You I is with great concern i am giving my views especially when news that Uthayakumar is very ill due to lack of proper medical attention. Maybe the people need to be mobilised again to send a strong message to the slow and deaf government. Are they waiting for him to die so that peoples anger be further aroused.

Hindraf, PKR, PAS and DAP should call for a day of prayer and fasting for not only the Hindraf 5 but also all ISA detainees. Just one day mass prayer at all Mosques, Temples, Churches, Gurdhwaras and other house of worship nationwide. Just one day let us appeal to “GOD”. Religious leaders come on show your solidarity. Lets show that all religions can coexist peacufully and effectively.

Boycott all activity for that one day and send a strong message peacefully. No one should work on that day. Busses, cars, trucks, taxis will all come to a stand still.

Hopefully then in that silence Pak Lah the “religious god fearing man” will able to hear something and take a positive step.

Alternatively charge them in court and let the learned judges decide the merits of the case.

Lets organise it. SMS people to boycott any activity on a chosen day. Everyone should proceed to their respective house of worship and fast for one day. Please everybody no one expected the effects of ” Makkal Sakthi” please respond.

I propose that Friday 18 April should be declared a day of “Prayer and Fasting”. Feed back please.

Thank You

]]> By: ktteokt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/#comment-66457 ktteokt Sun, 30 Dec 2007 01:17:43 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/#comment-66457 The greatness of ISA - they arrest you first, cool you down in prison while they think of what charges to bring against you. If none are available, they will release you without having to compensate you at all. This was exactly what was done by bandits in China in the olden days. They kidnap you, find out if you come from a rich family, extort exhorbitant ransom from your family and release you. If they find you coming from a poor family, they will just let you off without even saying sorry! But in certain cases, the unfortunate victim gets killed. This also happens under our ISA! The greatness of ISA - they arrest you first, cool you down in prison while they think of what charges to bring against you. If none are available, they will release you without having to compensate you at all.

This was exactly what was done by bandits in China in the olden days. They kidnap you, find out if you come from a rich family, extort exhorbitant ransom from your family and release you. If they find you coming from a poor family, they will just let you off without even saying sorry! But in certain cases, the unfortunate victim gets killed. This also happens under our ISA!

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/#comment-65090 limkamput Sun, 23 Dec 2007 08:06:52 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/#comment-65090 what do you expect from someone who can’t hold more than three variables like you, darkhorse? one morning he wakes man, one morning he wake women and one morning he wakes up in between. what do you expect from someone who can’t hold more than three variables like you, darkhorse?

one morning he wakes man, one morning he wake women and one morning he wakes up in between.

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/#comment-65041 limkamput Sun, 23 Dec 2007 05:30:50 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/#comment-65041 DarkHorse Says: “….and in case you think i made wild accusation, just remember that you have accused me for being a Dollah, remember? NO…?” limkamphut No what do you expect from someone who can't hold more than three variables? DarkHorse Says:
“….and in case you think i made wild accusation, just remember that you have accused me for being a Dollah, remember? NO…?” limkamphut No

what do you expect from someone who can’t hold more than three variables?

]]> By: DarkHorse http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/#comment-64935 DarkHorse Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:37:36 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/#comment-64935 "....and in case you think i made wild accusation, just remember that you have accused me for being a Dollah, remember? NO...?" limkamphut No. “….and in case you think i made wild accusation, just remember that you have accused me for being a Dollah, remember? NO…?” limkamphut

No.

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/#comment-64921 limkamput Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:38:22 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/#comment-64921 and in case you think i made wild accusation, just remember that you have accused me for being a Dollah, remember? NO, I never try to be someone else. LIMKAMPUT IS MY ONE AND ONLY HANDLE. I am honest with myself, that is what my religion taught me. and in case you think i made wild accusation, just remember that you have accused me for being a Dollah, remember? NO, I never try to be someone else. LIMKAMPUT IS MY ONE AND ONLY HANDLE. I am honest with myself, that is what my religion taught me.

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/#comment-64919 limkamput Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:30:43 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/#comment-64919 Undergrad2, You don’t have to talk big with me. The reality is you can’t answer me and that is why you are turning defensive. I never tried to project anything. I don’t have too. I think I am successful enough and there is nothing here other than trying to contribute to some of the discourse. If I am really that useless, Sdr Lim would not have commended my contribution. If there is any intention to project oneself, it is people like you. Are you trying to be a “taiko” here? Honestly to be taiko to those good for nothing fellows is nothing to shout about you know. You want to show you are being fair and objective. But the reality is you are not. When I hit back at all the insults being heaped on me, you would quickly side them and even tried to get Sdr Lim to knock me out. Why, are you afraid that finally there is someone able to challenge your half bake views? When others supported me and tried to rebuke some of the unfair criticism labeled against me, you would immediately tell those supported me that the criticism was legitimate. Frankly, my characterization of you being intellectually corrupt is not far fetch. You are. Anyway, we shall see how we progress from here. If you think by tacitly supporting a pack of wolves to knock me out, you are mistaken. I can take all you, there is no problem. Let others judge. One more thing, you people think I don’t know that some of you are actually using different handles? Undergrad2,
You don’t have to talk big with me. The reality is you can’t answer me and that is why you are turning defensive.

I never tried to project anything. I don’t have too. I think I am successful enough and there is nothing here other than trying to contribute to some of the discourse. If I am really that useless, Sdr Lim would not have commended my contribution. If there is any intention to project oneself, it is people like you. Are you trying to be a “taiko” here? Honestly to be taiko to those good for nothing fellows is nothing to shout about you know.

You want to show you are being fair and objective. But the reality is you are not. When I hit back at all the insults being heaped on me, you would quickly side them and even tried to get Sdr Lim to knock me out. Why, are you afraid that finally there is someone able to challenge your half bake views? When others supported me and tried to rebuke some of the unfair criticism labeled against me, you would immediately tell those supported me that the criticism was legitimate. Frankly, my characterization of you being intellectually corrupt is not far fetch. You are. Anyway, we shall see how we progress from here. If you think by tacitly supporting a pack of wolves to knock me out, you are mistaken. I can take all you, there is no problem. Let others judge. One more thing, you people think I don’t know that some of you are actually using different handles?

]]> By: undergrad2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/#comment-64908 undergrad2 Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:46:51 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/#comment-64908 I can understand why some posters would prefer to make short shrift of your so called legal arguments. I can understand why some posters would prefer to make short shrift of your so called legal arguments.

]]> By: undergrad2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/#comment-64905 undergrad2 Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:42:36 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/18/gani-owes-public-apology-to-batu-caves-31-for-travesty-of-justice-of-total-incarceration-of-403-days/#comment-64905 I think that's what you'd like me to say or even believe - but NO. "My contention is if the state is capable enough to bring a “bad” case to court, the administration of justice, including procedural and substantive laws could also be subverted. I hope I have done justice to the debate." I think your desire to 'debate on the issues' is actually your mostly uncontrollable desire to project your views on to others at any cost, perhaps to show how clever you are, right or wrong and in the process you fail to understand what is being said in response to your questions. Either you have not read what is written on the issues, glossed over them or failed to understand them. I think it is a combination of all three. I think that’s what you’d like me to say or even believe - but NO.

“My contention is if the state is capable enough to bring a “bad” case to court, the administration of justice, including procedural and substantive laws could also be subverted. I hope I have done justice to the debate.”

I think your desire to ‘debate on the issues’ is actually your mostly uncontrollable desire to project your views on to others at any cost, perhaps to show how clever you are, right or wrong and in the process you fail to understand what is being said in response to your questions. Either you have not read what is written on the issues, glossed over them or failed to understand them. I think it is a combination of all three.

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