Many men with XXY live out their lives without ever suspecting that they have an additional chromosome. But, there are some XXY boys and men, who exhibit the Klinefelter syndrome. Laifoong, Count Dracula and Dark Horse are possibly XXY boys who exhibit this syndrome.

What problems do XXY males have? – adapted from an online scientific article.

In addition to occasional breast enlargement, lack of facial and body hair, and a rounded body type, XXY males are more likely than other males to be overweight, and tend to be taller than their fathers and brothers.

A far more serious problem is one that is not always readily apparent. Although XXY males are not usually mentally retarded, most have some degree of language impairment. As children, they often learn to speak much later than do other children and may have difficulty learning to read and write. And while they eventually do learn to speak and converse normally, the majority tend to have some degree of difficulty with language throughout their lives.

If untreated, this language impairment can lead to school failure and its attendant loss of self esteem. Fortunately, however, this language disability usually can be compensated for. Chances for success are greatest if treatment for the language difficulty is begun in early childhood.

Hence, laifoong, Count Dracula and Dark Horse should take my explanation seriously, and try to improve themselves.

It got to be XXY, otherwise how do you explain the great difficulty I had trying to explain to them that tolerance has a range of levels. After I thought I had explained clearly enough, they indulged in somniloquy.

To elaborate further on my explanation of tolerance level to make sure that these boys really understand their XXY problem, let me illustrate by quantifying tolerance.

On a scale of 0 to 10 for tolerance levels, laifoong scored 3 points; Dark Horse and Count Dracula, 4 points; Cambridge brat, 4 points b4 the great debate, 8 points after the great debate; limkamput, 8 points b4 mellowing, 10 points after mellowing; DAPHNE, 10 points; EARNEST, 10 points.

Trust my judgment. You see, my judgments have been vindicated several times before.

EArnest why we bother, he/she is in between. one morning he wakes up man, one morning she wakes up women, one morning he/she wakes up in between, that is ms/mr/ms(mrs) laifoong. i am confused by all these confused people.

totally incoherent, typical of someone who got a fake degree. spm grade 3, no stpm, entering one of the good for nothing uni through back door, and now probably holding a low paying job.

I agree with you.

Not only are they bankrupt of ideas, they are also incoherent, probably engaging in somniloquy.

I guess laifoong is a teenage male, with a female name.

Let them sleep on undisturbed. Nobody should disturb their somniloquy, which revealed their subconscious mental state.

I believe that the government is more like a terrorist for causing fear among the people to voice out their opinion. The people cannot even voice out without putting their lives and job at risk. People are silent to keep their jobs.

Protesters in BERSIH and Hindraf demonstration are being detained. Isn’t that enough evidence to prove my statement?

Please do not get upset. Rest assured that nobody can fail you that badly that you get a negative score, including Cambridge brat.

In all tests, the lowest mark you can get is zero. Just kidding you. I must thank you for upgrading my sense of tolerance.

Actually, I think you are quite smart, but a bit temperamental and I am quite sure very young, and perhaps sweet innocence.

I am sorry, if I had hurt your feelings. It was unintentional.

Dark Horse,
There is a Chinese saying, “Tolerate, tolerate until you can not tolerate, still you must tolerate”. This is the maximum limit of tolerance.

On the other extreme, at the slightest provocation, a person may overreact. Like smashing your head with a steering rod because you scratched his car, or chopping off your head because you flashed your headlight indicating intention to overtake, which really happened in real life — road rages. This is the minimum limit of tolerance.

So, in between this two extremes of tolerance, a person can be more and more tolerant. It is not like what you think. When I say you are more tolerant now, it does not mean you were not tolerant yesterday. The degree of tolerance just increases, analogous to calibrations on a thermometer, there is a scale. The temperature can get increasingly warmer from dawn to noon.

Precisely. You are saying that the person you said “not to be mellow” and “has now mellowed” is someone who is less tolerant, less gentle and less relaxed in his attitude – using your very own words.

If limkamput sats that he is happy being referred to as “not mellow” before but is “mellowed now” who are we to say he should not be happy??

Now we can really move on.

Suggesting someone is not “mellow” cannot be a compliment to the one alleged not to be “mellow”. If a stranger comes up to me and say that I’m not mellow enough or rough around the edges I’ll probably kick him in the ass!

Now we can all move on.

I used the word “mellowed” to refer to a more tolerant, gentle and relaxed attitude. The degree of mellowing is subjective. So, before a person is considered mellowed, his/her original level of tolerance, gentleness and relaxation may already be higher than those of a bunch of provocateurs. It was not an all-or-nothing description of character. For example, the words “White” and “Black” are definite, but the word “Grey” is subjective, with various shades from the extremes of white to black.

I said “…..mellowed, which is good” because it was good mainly for a bunch of mischievous provocateurs for being spared a massacre, with survivals limping and crying to YB Lim, likened to axe-wielding thugs being thrown out of the arena by Stephen Chow in the movie “Kungfu Hustle” (2004).

It was also good to maintain civility of discourse.

I used the word “mellowed” to refer to a more tolerant, gentle and relaxed attitude. The degree of mellowing is subjective. So, before a person is considered mellowed, his/her level of tolerance, gentleness and relaxation may already be higher than those of a bunch of provocateurs. It is not an all-or-nothing description of character. For example, the words “White” and “Black” are definite, but the word “Grey” is subjective, with various shades from the extremes of white to black.

I said “…..mellowed, which is good” because it was good mainly for a bunch of mischievous provocateurs for being spared a massacre, with survivals limping and crying to YB Lim, likened to axe wielding thugs being thrown out of the arena by Stephen Chow in the movie “Kungfu Hustle” (2004).

It is also good to maintain civility of discourse.

To digress bit, another movie about a rotten judiciary and legal system “Justice, My Foot” (???) by Stephen Chow is interesting, like a satire on our judiciary and legal system.

Level of skill of inference of Laifoong, Dark Horse and DiaperHead will definitely be failed by Cambridge brat, with Laifoong getting a negative score.

DiaperHead, some of your comments on DAPHNE’s has been wrongly attributed to me.

limkamput, thanks for the explanation. I think if I add any more words, they may trigger off another endless chain reaction of out-of-topic remarks, necessitating a moderator to step in.
YB Lim’s show of support for limkamput’s commendable contributions, despite provocateurs’ urgings to kick him out vindicated my judgment.

A couple of weeks earlier in this blog, somebody had said that the Chinese were “Kia See” meaning literally “Afraid of Death” or cowardly, unlike Hindraf. To rebut, I had mentioned that a Chinese activist was even deprived off his citizenship for fighting the cause of Chinese education perhaps a bit too passionately to the powers-that-be. The Chinese community did engage a Queen Counsel with its own money to fight for its constitutional rights to establish a Chinese University in the 80s. The Chinese are not cowards, but are highly tolerant. However, the Chinese word for tolerance, ? “ren” has the word knife ? “dao” on top. That means do not push them too far in denying them their constitutional rights, they may retaliate. Basing on an article in the Sun, New Era College has submitted its application on 14.12.2007, to upgrade it to Chinese University status. Let’s hope for the best for its endeavor. This again vindicated my judgment.

So, please take note of my impersonal judgment of your skill of inference and improve yourself.

You see, the Chinese characters give some clues as to their meanings. I discovered through self-study that the radicals (at least 192) indicate whether a character connotes liquid, plants, people, female, etc. Even the late President Kennedy knew that the Chinese word for crisis?? “wei ji” has the word opportunity in it.
Our beloved country Malaysia is now beset with crises of confidence in the AG’s chambers, the police force and the judiciary. However, now with these crises, ancient Chinese wisdom teaches us that we have the opportunities to right the wrongs.

The issue under discussion here is “Challenge to AG/IGP to substantiate or withdraw terrorist charges against Hindraf”. We have the opportunity to contribute our ideas in this blog to avert crises. Do not squander it. What I write should not be a focus of your constant contributions and consternations.

Shall we move on, and concentrate on the above issue of discussion, please?

Liafoong I will not be answering to your challenge in another thread. If you disagree or agree, you have to state your position first. If you want me to elaborate, you have to tell me more what exactly you want to know more. Otherwise it is difficult for me to respond.