The Special Complaints Commission proposed in the bill tabled for first reading in the Dewan Rakyat yesterday is a totally different creature from the Independent Police Complaints and Misconduct Commission (IPCMC) and the very negation of the independent external oversight agency for the police recommended by the Royal Police Commission.
No wonder the Chairman of the Royal Police Commission, Tun Mohamed Dzaiddin Abdullah said yesterday that he was “very disappointed” as the proposed Special Complaints Commission was not what the Royal Police Commission had in mind. Dzaiddin described the Special Complaints Commission as “something entirely different from what we recommended”.
Another member of the Royal Police Commission, Tunku Abdul Aziz, former Transparency International Malaysia President, is also a disappointed man.
He said: “The whole purpose was to ensure that no only were the police protected against unfair criticism and allegations but also that there would be a return of public confidence in an organization that had lost it. If the new bill is watered down, obviously we are not going to achieve this purpose.”
How can the Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi and the Cabinet expect the 26 million Malaysians to have confidence in the proposed Special Complaints Commission when the leading lights of the Royal Police Commission like Tun Dzaiddin and Tunku Aziz are totally disgusted by the breach of faith and the complete watering-down of the IPCMC proposal to produce something quite nonsensical?
For instance, the Royal Police Commission had proposed that IPCMC commissioners should not be serving or former members of the police force. But the whole idea of an independent external oversight mechanism to ensure that police officers keep to the straight and narrow path of the law, steering clear of abuses of power and corrupt practices, was overturned with the proposal that the Inspector-General of Police is a permanent member of the seven-man Special Complaints Commission!
With the IGP as a permanent member of the Special Complaints Commission, how could the function of independent external oversight of the police from abuses of power and corruption be exercised?
Is the Prime Minister and Cabinet seriously suggesting that members of the public would have confidence to complain against top police officers or even against the IGP himself with the IGP as a member of the Special Complaints Commission?
On initial cursory reading of the Special Complaints Commission Bill, it not only falls far short of the IPCMC proposal of the Royal Police Commission, it is so weak and flawed that it is most unacceptable if the government is serious about wanting to create an efficient, accountable, incorruptible and professional world-class police service.
#1 by dawsheng on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 11:25 am
Special Complaints Commission??? WTF?
#2 by dawsheng on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 11:28 am
Different creature? I think it is totally alien, this is from outer space.
#3 by dawsheng on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 11:33 am
I want to laugh because I think it is stupid but I cannot laugh because I think Abdullah’s has insulted all peace loving Malaysians’ in general. It is no longer Polis Di Raja Malaysia, it is now Polis UMNO.
#4 by ahkok1982 on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 11:40 am
Special Complaints Commission:
Main duty: To hear all the public’s complaints
Secondary duty: To forget what the public’s complaints are all about.
#5 by pengembaraglobalisasi on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 11:56 am
a wasted 4 years of governmance
#6 by Rocky on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 12:06 pm
Pak Lah has lied to us. That is bottom line.Look at his BN 2004 manifesto and what he is delivering now. He has no back bone even when he won with a great majority to deliver what he promised. He is so weak he has to kow tow to the police on the IPCMC.
Pak Lah you CANNOT deliver what you promised and on top of that not in a timely manner. Shame on you.
Cemerlang, Gemilang, Terbilang…..Temberang…Msians kena Temberang by Pak Lah!!!
#7 by sj on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 12:08 pm
Aww crap, after all the IPCMC people been demanding, they gave you a freaking complaint department to vent your complaints. The next time you complaint, they will tell
Press 1 for COmplaint A
Press 2 for Complaint B
Press 0 for Operator
Press # to repeat the menu
#8 by pwcheng on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 12:17 pm
This is the shit you will get from UMNO for voting them. They are more concerned about themselves than for the rakyat because they have to please the police first and the rakyat last for they need the police to arrest people who are intolerant of the government for misgoverning.
#9 by Cinapek on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 12:37 pm
Yes, we go through normal channels and this is how we, the public, gets played out time and again.
It is the height of idiocy to suggest that the public can lodge a complaint against the PDRM to the commission when the IGP is a permanent member. The Govt. has once again made the country looked an absolute ass in the eyes of the world. In case the Govt does not realise this, it is all these harebrained ideas that are fightening investors away. Decisions like these betrays the true biased intentions of the Govt. and investors are surely wary of a Govt. that does not practise fair play and is manipulative in its decision making.
#10 by optimuz on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 12:42 pm
Since its a totally different creature, can we call the MIB??
#11 by sheriff singh on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 12:50 pm
Its not what you, the people or the RCI want but what the government wants, what it is comfortable with. It needs to have its way. Its the “Cemerlang, Terbilang and Gemilang” way, all pure nonsense. Besides, it is “in compliance” with the Hadhari thinking:
It consists of 10 fundamental principles.
Faith and piety in Allah
Just and trustworthy government
Freedom and independence to the people
Mastery of knowledge
Balanced and comprehensive economic development
Good quality of life for all
Protection of the rights of minority groups and women
Cultural and moral integrity
Protection of the environment
A strong defence policy
#12 by sheriff singh on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 12:51 pm
When we ask for a watchdog, don’t give us a jackass.
#13 by tiredofbee-an on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 12:57 pm
They never wanted people to complain, else they would not have rejected the permits for the peaceable demonstrations of the BERSIH, HINDRAF, and arrested peaceful people in the Parliament sanctity when these people just wanted to hand in a memorandum to protest the extension of the retirement age of the EC chairman. Got it now?
#14 by smeagroo on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 1:00 pm
did u see how fast the stupid govt came up with the complaints hotline for illegal rallies? And they cant do the same for other complaints like why we cant get permit for rallies?
#15 by ahkok1982 on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 1:41 pm
setup hotline for people to complain. Next, make up figures to show that there are millions of people who are against mass public gathering. then use these made up figures to justify their high handed methods to lock people up.
when asked to show how these figures are obtained, they say it is under OSA. end of story.
#16 by Wang on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 1:44 pm
The police help UMNO arrest anybody who speaks out against the government and in return UMNO created the Special Complaints Commission.
#17 by k1980 on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 2:07 pm
Does Peter Sellers’ 1979 movie remind you of someone sleeping in Putrajaya?
http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/movie/being_there/
…the movie’s about a simple-minded, middle-aged gardener who, after a lifetime of seclusion and safety in a Washington, D.C. townhouse, gets his first exposure to reality beyond the walls of his sheltered existence. His only reference to the world is through his childlike addiction to television, and when a chance encounter brings him into the inner fold of a dying billionaire (Melvyn Douglas), he suddenly finds himself the toast of Washington’s political elite. His simple phrases about gardening are misinterpreted as anything from economic predictions to sage political advice…
#18 by Bigjoe on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 2:09 pm
Dissapointing? Unfortunately its now expected of this PM. What this nation must ask is what kind of a man this PM really is? Does he not believe that, ‘the time for justice is always now’? or merely he does not understand?
I fear that its actually the latter because then its hopeless. Completely so and worst, the alternatives are even scarier.
The say Malaysia is a country that keeps dissapointing in its promise. With leaders that continue to dissapoint what else can it otherwise be?
#19 by smeagroo on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 2:20 pm
all I can say now is that v r f if the next GE we cant turn thigs around. Things will be even worse for us all esp the oppositions.
#20 by Jimm on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 2:26 pm
this national scandal are larger than anyone of us can ever imagine and those involved are too shameful to stop their acts as the temptations of wealth are flowing into their pockets like rushing rivers.
those in the highest also involved have to give in to all government actions as to covered up their own back and exposure to the rakyat.
wealth can be obtained in many ways and here, they just went overboard with the temptations which opens up corruption level to the highest level and beyond control.
we called these actions , penny wise ; pound foolish.
everyone were totally blinded by those who capitalised the same opportunities to develop our country wealth.
those land owners are the final loser as they were make believe by the government about their throne and future.
now, nothing that they can do but to continue with the game.
what saddened us are they are still that same fool from day one.
so caught up with wealth greed that their lands are being raped over and over again.
sickening mindset in believing that their lands will be there forever.
anyway, all of us are born in this land and it’s the land that owned us.
failing to take care of our existence with this land will shorten our journey here.
since many acclaimed to be the owner, yet too few that reallys owned them.
fools are everywhere make believe about their heroic presence.
they thought that it’s the land that owe them a living.
fools will never learn.
#21 by budak on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 3:18 pm
IPCMC is a tool for ABB to buy time for him to have better sleep…
by the way all hardwork by the RCI go down to drain…
dont try to tell me ABB is much clever than the team…
ABB you dont deserve to be my PM…
Ashame, ashame, ashame…
#22 by pengembaraglobalisasi on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 3:29 pm
malu nak dengar cerita,
sedih bila nak nangis,
pening dalam kepala,
hati2 habis terguris,
apa nak dikata :
berita lucu setiap ketika,
anak-cucu digamit derita,
tiada impian yang gembira,
silap memilih rosak segala,
habis,habis di kebas mereka,
yang tinggal tulang-rangka.
MALAYSIA OH MALAYSIA.
#23 by twistedmind on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 3:29 pm
off topic – sorry
There is so much of hatred when I read the local media, listen to the news on the radio or watch news on tv – it insults my intelligence!
PLEASE HELP VOTE BN/UMNO/MCA/MIC/GERAKAN and all the other donkey members of Barisan out of office! Do you part, pass this out to everyone, no matter how insignificant they are!
#24 by lakshy on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 3:33 pm
Will this wake up the malays? Nahhh! I guess not. The malays can stomach a lot of abuse.
I guess its their way of showing gratitude to umno for all that umno has done to “uplift” and “improve” the lot of the malays, while umno has been raping the country.
You know when you think about it right, Malaysians and Singaporeans are basically of the same stock.
Ever wonder why Singapore so maju and malaysia so mundur?
Because of the corruption, cronyism, nepotism and absolute abuse of power by umno/bn.
And we are all to blame for allowing it to happen. And we will have to answer to our children and grandchildren for it.
#25 by Jong on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 3:51 pm
“Village Idiot” to describe him, justifiable!
#26 by Libra2 on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 4:15 pm
In a nutshell the Royal Police Commission is a zero. The only thing that came of it is the “Jangan Rasuah” stickers and badges.
Why the hell spend so much money to place some stupid stickers and badges on the cars and uniforms.
Do you need a Royal Commission to do that.
#27 by Jong on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 4:27 pm
No, it does not need a Royal Commission to come out with stickers and badges, but definitely someone needs the commission!
#28 by antz on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 4:34 pm
reply to lakshy,
since i happen to come across this blog by chance and happen to read lakshy comments stated above i just wanted to have a say on things that i have come across and many times being highlighted….
am a Singapore Malay,i came across Malaysian workers usually Chinese and Indians working here,singapore…many times they highlight to me how lucky I lived here,SG…they feel neglected and sidelined well for lots of reasons…often they like to compare between SG Malay and MY Malay…and what i can say they told me lots of differences…SG Malay accept their citizens regardless of race equally…but MY Malay have a kinda racial supremacy in them simply-Ketuanan Melayu…and fear meritocracy..
From my observation and reading and at the same time contributing to Malaysia Blogs…mostly and i can say Malaysian Malays is too way concerned about so called how we,Singapore malays lived equally with other races…having kinda trauma/some kinda idealogy i guess that we are marganilised and lived like a slave…to the Chinese the majority…so many allegations that is really out of the box till they become so paranoid of themselves by end of the day…goodness… and at the same very against Mr Lee Kuan Yew, just a man that does not even have so called direct concern to them…they are so concerned bt us that are not even their citizen but of the same race…
and my reply to them(mostly i can say pro-UMNO) normally is that here the system differs…and no matter who u are whatever ethnic it’s all based in merits…and i’ll question them why so bother cos malaysia have kicked us out back in 1965 forcing us to swim alone in the deep sea.:Minister LKY came to Singapore political scene because he stepped forward…to be one where his country in a time wish to join the bigger malaysia but was forced to be out due to political differences…with your tuanku abdul rahman (pressing on with bumiputera policy and LKY malaysia for malaysian)…and as a Malay myself that prove very costly…and a mistake…setelah bangsa sendiri menendang kami keluar dari nusantara melayu secara tiba,kita terpaksa berenang sendiri dan telah dibela…dan diajar dan diingatkan bahawa melayu singapura mesti ada harga diri di mata dunia supaya bersaing bersama-sama walaupun lambat tapi harus sampai ke penamat…dan Minister LKY tidak mengecewakan kami seperti melayu malaysia telah mengecewakan kami dahulu…
after my stated above comments…well, some accept stating that all this while they were wrong and maybe meritocracy is actually good to some kinda striving on their own without crutch…some are i can say well speechless…Singapore and Malaysia ya by what lakshy commented are actually one big family…all of us are of the same stock…my point of view is that 50 years of privileged to the malaysian malays is a crutch that become mentally dependant and feared meritocracy…this priviliged gotta be taken away gradually…if we,singapore malays live comfortably and independantly with 75% of chinese majority why cant the malaysia malays as the majority do that…the crutch cannot be taken away by force…but gotta be accepted willingly as part of the culture/system…instead of despising them why can’t they be encouraged….sometimes it hurts for me as a malay but of another country to read such negative comments bout them…who would not want to see a Malay to be succesful…but not by having priviled but the rest are left to be on their own….cos of difference in ethic…
#29 by budak on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 4:47 pm
Year 2007 Primary School Leaving Examination (PSLE) Top Scorer in Singapore is a Malay girl has scored a record 294 out of 300. Natasha Muhamad Nasir whose father is a technician and mum, a housewife.
the moral of the story; Malays can be MAJU…
depend on your sincerity and will to change, else you’ll lead blindly by UMNO… we just need a good leader to bring us to higher level of life, not supressing with well size vision without mission…
#30 by hutchrun on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 5:26 pm
Not at all surprising. UMNO does have a habit of insulting the Royalty. Royal Commissions are set up so they may be belittled.
#31 by ReformMalaysia on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 6:43 pm
“”budak Says: the moral of the story; Malays can be MAJU…”"
BRAVO!! MELAYU SINGAPORE BOLEH……..
TAPI MELAYU MALAYSIA YANG MINDANYA DIJAJAH UMNO…..ayoyo… TAK BOLEH…..JAGUH KAMPUNG!…..
#32 by k1980 on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 7:53 pm
Dollah has gone to borrow the magic mirror from Snow White’s stepmom
Dollah: Mirror, mirror on the wall, who has the biggest ears of all?
Mirror: An elephant, you fool!
#33 by DarkHorse on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 9:26 pm
Now we know why the AG is taking so long! He has been busy working out the details of a completely new mechanism – not polishing the old.
Nobody apparently wants to incur the wrath of the brass within the police hierarchy. It doesn’t pay to rock the boat.
They are in it together and so why rock the boat? It is all a matter of public perception. If the government is seen as having done something to address the problems, that is just as good as doing it! So they think. We’ll let the people decide.
#34 by DiaperHead on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 9:39 pm
Antz gives us a new perspective! Very interesting.
He says Malays in Singapore felt abandoned when Singapore was forced out of Malaysia in the early 60s. He says too that Malays in Singapore have succeeded despite the odds and all that without the support of UMNO or their government. Very interesting!
I wonder how many Malays in Singapore agree with his characterization. I’ve met professionals among Malays in Singapore who tell me it is very difficult for them to find the jobs they are looking for – because they say there are Malays.
#35 by Count Dracula on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 10:02 pm
I smell blood in the water!
#36 by antz on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 10:30 pm
reply to diaperhead:
Job concerned here in singapore frankly there are actually equal number of all races in the public/private sector…cos u must understand malays make up only bt 15% while the Indians bt 9%…in the private sector all got to compete in terms of education,language ability and etc…..and so sometimes maybe malays/indians is hampered by language ability cos MNC’s/small companies here liase with China companies…and mostly interact with China/taiwan national …so to say a malay/indian or simply as a minority to get a job that he intends to land frankly it all goes to education…and also applies to the majority chinese…this is the private sector where they are strictly in competition and making profits while in public sector…the govt frankly also give emphasise in education and etc and at the same time making sure all races are equally presented…and as for the Singapore armed forces…all regardless of race are presented and there are also malay officers i think the highest holding the rank of maybe major/liuetenant colonel …lost track but there are handful of them…and to say my uncle is a retired officer from the army…
and i noticed in malaysia public sector are really control by the solely bumis…cos immigration dept…countless times i came in and out not even a single Chinese/indian face i have seen and out in the street the police force is all the bumis….and in the private sector is controlled by majority the chinese….actually to be frank…no country is perfect…Singapore cannot follow the way malaysia governs cos that means the end for singapore…and for Malaysia to follow the way Singapore govern i can say takes time slowly…and if it does follow one day…Malaysia will excel as a country with all the natural resources…and till now i find it hard to accept that it just refuse fearing of lost of land idealogy among own citizens…
#37 by SkullOfScar on Friday, 14 December 2007 - 11:55 pm
This is all hanky panky works from AAB/BN/UMNO. It’s totally corrupted AAB/BN/UMNO. No more to comment, change our goverment. Thats the only way for my future, everyone single Malaysian futures.
#38 by dawsheng on Saturday, 15 December 2007 - 12:16 am
“Our action is justified. We have to take action if something undesirable to national security and public safety happens,” he was quoted as saying by the official Bernama news agency late Thursday.
“I am duty-bound to act because the people want the government to take action. The people don’t want to see this country in chaos,” he said.
http://news.sg.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1147587
#39 by DarkHorse on Saturday, 15 December 2007 - 12:19 am
To antz,
What is the highest ranking Malay
1) in Singapore’s Air Force?
2) in the Judiciary
3) in government
and how many Malays are in
4) the legal profession, on the Bench
5) the banking industry
6) in government service
to name a few?
#40 by DarkHorse on Saturday, 15 December 2007 - 12:23 am
If you cannot find any, I can understand. If your standard of English is any indication Malays in S’pore should not be surprised if they cannot find jobs they want.
You don’t think Malays in Singapore are a marginalized lot??
#41 by harrisonbinhansome on Saturday, 15 December 2007 - 2:37 am
“With the IGP as a permanent member of the Special Complaints Commission, how could the function of independent external oversight of the police from abuses of power and corruption be exercised?”
-Lim Kit Siang
The head of Gestapo chairing the Independent Gestapo Commission.
Looks like we are heading back to square 1, anew.
#42 by burn on Saturday, 15 December 2007 - 7:09 am
well, what to do? we got clowns in parliment! minus DAP!
another sirim product from BN! malaysia boleh!
mana tak boleh! we have to show the world, we are the best, among the best!
hancur… should turn parliment to circus instead!
#43 by AsIseeit on Saturday, 15 December 2007 - 7:17 am
It is very telling that 2 very important members of the Royal Police Commission have expressed their grave disappointment on the govt’s plan for the new Special Complaints Commission, instead of the IPCMC.
What it means is that the PM is not sincere in what he has promised. So much for a ‘god-fearing’ man! It looks like Islam Hadhari does not allow for true justice! Instead it continues to allow for double standards, corruption and nepotism.
Neither is the PM interested in accountability or transparency to the people. If he is wise, he should create institutions that will truly encapsulate good values for society to function and prosper in future years. Otherwise, history will certainly damn him for lots of inappropriate and ‘stupid’ action. Already there is lots for historians to write about. I am sure that historians will have a gala time to demonise him in future years.
#44 by antz on Saturday, 15 December 2007 - 7:41 am
reply to darkhorse,
not necessary to actually published and reply to your stated question…because it’s of my country internal own affairs…as i said no country is perfect…if u want to look at statistic alone in a fair level competition and also based on the same percentage population then it’s justificable….in other words i could also question u how many non-bumi’s too in all the stated question u have actually asked me…the fact is not by priviliged u attained to the specific position but by merits regardless of race…
I happen to by chance come across this website and commented on Lakshy comments stated above…and how we,singapore malays live is also not of a question to be asked to make it appropriate…don’t be so concerned about us…u left us swimming alone back in 1965 and now we are still swimming…and look at your own issue in your own mirror…we are not in a state of constant denial and paranoid syndrome
#45 by Sitiawan on Saturday, 15 December 2007 - 8:00 am
This country is heading towards GLOOM and DOOM.
I am praying for a MIRACLE.
#46 by hutchrun on Saturday, 15 December 2007 - 8:01 am
Darhorse might be able to explain who the current highest ranking non malays are in the M`sian Armed forces vis a vis the no. say in 1965.
Similarly, the position of civil servants. Also extend that to the malay controlled banking/finance sector. Figures in %age please.
#47 by hutchrun on Saturday, 15 December 2007 - 8:03 am
Btw Darkhorse, can you xplain why christians in the Armed forces are not allowed to congregate for prayers? From my brecollection from a letter to m`kini it was on a directive from the Chief. Your early reply will be much appreciated.
#48 by Bigjoe on Saturday, 15 December 2007 - 8:25 am
This blog is particularly telling of why this country will always fall short under BN exisiting policy. We started off discussing the IPCMC – a non-racial issue and eventually it degenerate into discussion of NEP and religion. This is our natural order of things – its reflect what the real issues are underlying all our problems.
This is what the PM and the likes of Nazri don’t get it. If you ask him, they will not admit it and likely to accuse you that you do not or something else.
Its because of NEP and constitutional secularity that we can’t get these fundamental things like corruption right. This believe that somehow it can be fixed or mitigated without dealing with the fundamental schism is a public illusion if not an outright lie.
What goads me more than anything else, especially now with the leaders telling the nation to ‘shoot for the stars’ literally, is that there is this assumption that opportunity for greatness is always there.
By now there should not be any delusion that Malaysia could have been developed by now if not for mediocre government. We are the butt of economist joke that calls us a nation that continue to fall-short of its potential.
What really gets me is that as the current administration goes about telling people to ‘shoot for the stars’, it continues to feel it can fall short, very far short by the looks of the IPCMC and the RCI, of the same ideals. The assumption here is that there is always time and opportunity to be better. The PM likes to say ‘he is more impatient’ or ‘he has big ears’ when the time for just impatience and big ears is over.
#49 by Bigjoe on Saturday, 15 December 2007 - 8:39 am
I thought Leslie Lau from Todayonline in Singapore had a good piece on why the PM is reluctant to act:
http://www.malaysia-today.net/nuc2006/news2007.php?itemid=1160
#50 by k1980 on Saturday, 15 December 2007 - 8:49 am
Malaysia has its own PM-for-life
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article3048497.ece