Comments on: AG’s Hindraf selective and malicious prosecution - widening crisis of confidence in administration of justice http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/ for Malaysia Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:49:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: ktteokt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/#comment-62114 ktteokt Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:33:13 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/#comment-62114 We call the Malaysian Police "PDRM - Polis Di Raja Malaysia" and not "PKM" - Polis Kabinet Malaysia. So why is the police siding the cabinet instead of looking after the interests of the Monarch? We call the Malaysian Police “PDRM - Polis Di Raja Malaysia” and not “PKM” - Polis Kabinet Malaysia. So why is the police siding the cabinet instead of looking after the interests of the Monarch?

]]> By: DarkHorse http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/#comment-62045 DarkHorse Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:43:51 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/#comment-62045 "Did someone just mention my name?" JONG The guy needs to go on R&R after all the bruises he got from being recalcitrant. Ooops! Mahathir might just appear to also ask who called him! “Did someone just mention my name?” JONG

The guy needs to go on R&R after all the bruises he got from being recalcitrant. Ooops! Mahathir might just appear to also ask who called him!

]]> By: Jong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/#comment-62037 Jong Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:46:21 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/#comment-62037 Why are you running away when we are beginning to be smittened by your new style of writing, the effort you are putting in etc etc? :) :D Why are you running away when we are beginning to be smittened by your new style of writing, the effort you are putting in etc etc? :) :D

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/#comment-62034 limkamput Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:41:42 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/#comment-62034 Jong, i was not refering to you when the word irritant was used although you have used it on me before. I know your intention was good. oknyua, thanks for the support. Undergrad2, I think it is enough for now. Happy holiday to you too. Jong, i was not refering to you when the word irritant was used although you have used it on me before. I know your intention was good.

oknyua, thanks for the support.

Undergrad2, I think it is enough for now. Happy holiday to you too.

]]> By: Jong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/#comment-62031 Jong Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:24:06 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/#comment-62031 Congrats limkamput, you're doing pretty well I must say. We are all not so bad afterall eh?! Congrats limkamput, you’re doing pretty well I must say. We are all not so bad afterall eh?!

]]> By: Jong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/#comment-62030 Jong Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:20:37 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/#comment-62030 Did someone just mentioned my name? Did someone just mentioned my name?

]]> By: DarkHorse http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/#comment-62025 DarkHorse Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:07:23 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/#comment-62025 oknyua, Don’t “de-stabilize” somebody who is genetically prone to be an irritant to borrow Jong's term when describing him. You can see he is struggling not to be an irritant – as some would say, not to be“a pain in the rear end”. Credit must go to he who makes an effort at rehabilitating himself. oknyua,

Don’t “de-stabilize” somebody who is genetically prone to be an irritant to borrow Jong’s term when describing him. You can see he is struggling not to be an irritant – as some would say, not to be“a pain in the rear end”. Credit must go to he who makes an effort at rehabilitating himself.

]]> By: undergrad2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/#comment-62021 undergrad2 Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:33:02 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/#comment-62021 “It is not absolute freedom that guarantees freedom. It is “circumscribed” government that ensures that the people have enduring freedom.” Limkamput I don’t think there is any need to enter into any philosophical argument about “freedom”. Suffice it to say that such questions belong not to the area of constitutional law but rather to political science and the works of philosophers like John Jacques Rousseau best known for his “Social Contract”. The United States today is a melting pot of cultures, language and religion. No one is seeking to impose their religion, culture and language on the other. There is a right to bear arms and yet you don’t see people running around amok killing one another. The separation of church and state ensures that religion has no role in the political life of this nation. The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution starts with “Congress shall make no law respecting …(religion and the free exercise thereof, freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of people to peaceably to assemble).” Article1 vests all legislative powers in Congress and Congress shall propose amendments “whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary”. Congress passed the First Amendment about a decade or so later respective religion, freedom of speech and assembly and it reads “shall make no laws…”. The issue of whether our Parliament or the Federal Constitution of 1957 is supreme is more relevant and is less clear because of the 2/3 control of the House and with the Senate presently being nothing more than a rubber stamp, an argument can validly be put forward that it is Parliament (read: BN) that is supreme. Does not 600 plus amendments over some fifty years mean anything? Shouldn’t the Constitution be supreme? It is an issue students of Malaysian constitutional law would love to debate – until the cows come home, of course. Your reference to the work of the EC or other organs of the government is not so much about the lack of check and balances and the doctrine of separation of powers as it is about the non-adherence to the doctrine of civil service neutrality. After some five decades how many of us are able to draw the line between government and the political party that runs it? “It is not absolute freedom that guarantees freedom. It is “circumscribed” government that ensures that the people have enduring freedom.” Limkamput

I don’t think there is any need to enter into any philosophical argument about “freedom”. Suffice it to say that such questions belong not to the area of constitutional law but rather to political science and the works of philosophers like John Jacques Rousseau best known for his “Social Contract”.

The United States today is a melting pot of cultures, language and religion. No one is seeking to impose their religion, culture and language on the other. There is a right to bear arms and yet you don’t see people running around amok killing one another. The separation of church and state ensures that religion has no role in the political life of this nation.

The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution starts with “Congress shall make no law respecting …(religion and the free exercise thereof, freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of people to peaceably to assemble).” Article1 vests all legislative powers in Congress and Congress shall propose amendments “whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary”. Congress passed the First Amendment about a decade or so later respective religion, freedom of speech and assembly and it reads “shall make no laws…”.

The issue of whether our Parliament or the Federal Constitution of 1957 is supreme is more relevant and is less clear because of the 2/3 control of the House and with the Senate presently being nothing more than a rubber stamp, an argument can validly be put forward that it is Parliament (read: BN) that is supreme. Does not 600 plus amendments over some fifty years mean anything? Shouldn’t the Constitution be supreme? It is an issue students of Malaysian constitutional law would love to debate – until the cows come home, of course.

Your reference to the work of the EC or other organs of the government is not so much about the lack of check and balances and the doctrine of separation of powers as it is about the non-adherence to the doctrine of civil service neutrality. After some five decades how many of us are able to draw the line between government and the political party that runs it?

]]> By: oknyua http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/#comment-61991 oknyua Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:08:01 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/09/ags-hindraf-selective-and-malicious-prosecution-widening-crisis-of-confidence-in-administration-of-justice/#comment-61991 LImkamput, may I suggest that you ignore the negative comments because there are others that appreciate your your straight talk. Personally I can agree with what you said. Don't tell me you and I are the only odd ones here! LImkamput, may I suggest that you ignore the negative comments because there are others that appreciate your your straight talk. Personally I can agree with what you said. Don’t tell me you and I are the only odd ones here!

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