Terrorist links – stop demonising Hindraf leaders and two million Indians for speaking up against marginalisation


I call on the the Prime Minister, Cabinet Ministers, the Inspector-General of Police and the Attorney-General to stop treating Hindraf leaders and ordinary Malaysians who attended the Nov. 25 30,000-strong Hindraf demonstration as “terrorists” just because “somebody” had lodged a police report that Hindraf has contacts with LTTE.

Just because “somebody” had lodged a police report making an accusation against an organization cannot be the basis for any public policy as the government, Inspector-General of Police and the Attorney-General will surely not treat UMNO and Barisan Nasional leaders and members as “terrorist” just because “somebody” has lodged an unsubstantiated police report that they have connections or links with terrorist organizations.

The Attorney-General Tan Sri Gani Patail was the first to raise the alleged Hindraf links with terrorists when he deployed it as the “star” argument at the Shah Alam Sessions Court on Wednesday to oppose the application for bail for the 31 persons charged for the “attempted murder” of a policeman. What was the justification for the Attorney-General leading the attack on Hindraf for its alleged terrorist links?

Yesterday, Gani said his linking Hindraf to the LTTE in his argument at the Shah Alam Sessions Court on Wednesday was based on a police report.

He said: “Somebody lodged a police report that there is ground that these people have been going out to (establish) contact with this LTTE.’

Surely, this is too flimsy a ground for the Attorney-General to found his whole court strategy to virtually regard the 31 ordinary Malaysians as terrorists out to wreck the country and too dangerous to be allowed out on bail pending their trial.

But this is exactly the line which the Prime Minister, Cabinet Ministers, the Police and the Attorney-General have adopted with regard to the Hindraf leaders and the ordinary Malaysians who had gathered for Nov. 25 rally to peacefully, democratically and constitutionally send a clear and unmistakable “cry of desperation” of the long-standing political, economic, educational, social, cultural and religious marginalization of the Malaysian Indians into a new underclass to serve as a wake-up call to the Barisan Nasional Government.

The Prime Minister has led the attack on Hindraf for its allegations of “ethnic cleansing” and genocide of Indians in Malaysia, but can the government, police and Attorney-General, with the vast resources at their command, be unaware that the 30,000 Malaysian Indians who had congregated in Kuala Lumpur from all over the country were completely unconnected to these allegations and that their support of the Hindraf demonstration was for one and only one purpose – to call the attention of the government to the decades-long marginalization of the Malaysian Indians?

Have the top Barisan Nasional leadership decided on a harsh and even cruel response to the “cry of desperation” by 30,000 Malaysian Indians on behalf of two million Malaysian Indians for an end to their marginalization as Malaysian citizens, as illustrated by:

• the demonisation of Hindraf leaders and creating the conditions to prepare for their detention under the Internal Security Act, with growing chorus of demand for the invocation of the ISA by BN Ministers and even with the Prime Minister publicly discussing the ISA option; and

• treating those who attended the Hindraf demonstration as “terrorists” and grave threats to national security who cannot be allowed bail when they are ordinary Malaysians who have nothing to do with the allegations of “ethnic cleansing” and genocide and only wanted their legitimate grievances about the marginalization of Malaysian Indians to be heard and addressed by the government.

The Prime Minister and the Barisan Nasional government must be forewarned – that a harsh, insensitive, cruel and high-handed response to the 30,000-strong Hindraf demonstration on the marginalization of the Malaysian Indians, demonizing the Hindraf leaders as terrorists and the two million Malaysian Indians who want an end to their marginalization as grave national security threats will only aggravate the sense of alienation, deprivation and marginalization of the Malaysian Indian community.

It will have grave short-term, mid-term and long-term repercussions.

Short-term, there will be further alienation of the Malaysian Indian community aggravating racial polarization and national division, undermining our international competitiveness.

This will also have electoral consequences for the forthcoming general election, as there are 62 parliamentary seats and 138 state assembly seats in Peninsular Malaysia where the Indian voters account for more than 10% of the electorate – not enough to singly decide the outcome of any constituency but able to influence as to which party and candidate will get elected in the constituency.

There are 13 such parliamentary and 27 state assembly seats in Perak – with Indian voters comprising as high as 26% for a parliamentary constituency and 45% for a state assembly seat.

If the Malaysian Indians continue to be marginalized, and their “cry of desperation” on Nov. 25 by 30,000 people on behalf of two million Malaysian Indians result in further marginalization, then Barisan Nasional candidates cannot depend on the Malaysian Indian votes as a captive vote bank as in past general elections and by-elections.

In the higher interests of national unity and greater international competitiveness, sanity and good sense must prevail and I call on the Prime Minister to provide the leadership to respond positively, constructively and in a statesmanlike manner to the “cry of desperation” for justice of the Malaysian Indian community to end their long-standing marginalization with two measures:

• Establish a Royal Commission of Inquiry into the Hindraf demonstration on Nov. 25, the police handling and conduct as well as allegations of terrorist links of Hindraf; and

• A National Conference of all political parties, NGOs and stakeholders to deal with the root causes of the Hindraf demonstration – the marginalization of the Malaysian Indians – but with a larger national ambit and term of reference: a New Deal to end the marginalization of the Malaysian Indians and all marginalized groups in the country.

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  1. #1 by k1980 on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 10:45 am

    What oh what is their motive?
    http://www.malaysia-today.net/nuc2006/letter.php?itemid=931
    Why did Azilah Hadri and Sirul Azhar premeditate the murder of Amina Abdullah (aka Altantuya Shaaribuu Setev) ? The bodohs from the AG’s chamber cannot answer this simple question.

  2. #2 by lakshy on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 10:46 am

    Wouldn’t comments by IGP and AG and Nazri, Najib and AAB and other clowns be subjudice as the matter is now in the courts?

    Have they tried and hung the people before the courts can even listen to the case? Well I guess they can do so when the courts are under their control. Guess that is malaysian democracy for you!

    I call on all people to move on. Totally ignore the provocation from the gomen as it is obvious that the gomen of AAB is bankrupt of ideas and is actually fanning racial sentiments in order to unite the malays so that they can win the elections by acting as champions for the malays and hence win with their votes alone.

    Let us prove that we are beyond all that!

  3. #3 by St0rmFury on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 10:50 am

    I find it funny that they didn’t appoint a 3-man panel to investigate the authenticity of the police report.

    Double standards much?

  4. #4 by cheng on soo on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 10:54 am

    May be some one worry that police n army may forget how to deal with terrorist, (since CPM Chin Peng dismantle his gang so long ago), so must find some way to refresh police n army in this skill, so just label some body terrorist, then deal with it accordingly. Then we can show the world we are better than USA in combatting terrorist lah!

  5. #5 by k1980 on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 11:01 am

    The only terrorists I see in this country are those blowing apart foreign visitors using C-4. They learned that in Afghanistan from Osama’s destruction of the Bamiyan statutes?

  6. #6 by sj on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 11:04 am

    I really do hope that this is just smoke screen of one of their cheap publicity stunts to push the real issue at hand away from the attention of the public. If the AG can use such flimsy statement to do a prosecution on others claiming people were terrorist, he should be brought down for gross stupidity.

  7. #7 by undergrad2 on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 11:11 am

    I blame this on the four lawyers, leaders of HINDRAF for drumming up the threat of violence as a real risk in their interviews with the media especially foreign media. Kumar himself attributed his overt reference to the threat of violence to the failure of Opposition leaders like Anwar and Kit to speak with one voice, loud and clear. Had they done so he said Badawi just might listen. They did not.

    Since they didn’t he felt he had no alternative. By doing so and with the purported reference to LTTE (or Tamil Tigers fighting their war against the government of Sri Lanka) in their memorandum to the Queen, he and the others like him unwittingly fell prey to the UMNO led government now busy laying its foundation for a possible terrorism charge against those accused. Unfortunately, it does not depend on us the public to determine if the charge could or would stand. In fact if they were to be detained under the ISA, they don’t have to be charged!

    Their over reaction to the government response against the demonstration, in my opinion, has led to claims valid or otherwise by some that they have betrayed the trust of many of the HINDRAF supporters who only wanted to see their plight recognized publicly. Kumar has blamed the NGOs and other groups for not putting their full weight behind their cause.

  8. #8 by lbn on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 11:12 am

    When there’s no avenue for bringing up grievances, street protest is the only way. What these BN people talking? They should take hints of the dissatisfiction of the people and stop reacting with accusations. The gomen should be proactive instead trying to explain and find justification to their excuses. Hi diah gomen, just be honest and face the TRUTH!

  9. #9 by cheng on soo on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 11:16 am

    If we are better than USA in combatting terrorist, then we can set up a “Terrorist Eradication College” and get many countries to send their people to us for training on how to eradicate terrorist lah!
    Good idea, isn’t it? MALAYSIA BOLEH !

  10. #10 by pkrisnin on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 11:27 am

    PM won the first election based on promises to eliminate corruption but that fell through as many of his corrupted ministers still holding their post.

    Now cannot use the “getting rid of corruption tactic” people will see right through it.
    So they go and destroy Indian temples to make the Indians mad and cause them to riot. All so gov. can play the race card to scare the Malays into believing that they are in danger.
    This is the acid test for the Malay race, to see how much they have matured in their way of thinking.
    To vote or not vote for BN.

  11. #11 by emgbrl on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 11:39 am

    Dear Malaysians!!
    Destroying Temples, Removal of Crosses from Missionary Schools,Hospitals & Churches, Body snatching, Morality Police & Snoop squads—–sounds Familiar???Welcome to MALAYSIA-THE LAND OF THE NEW TALIBANS!!!Our PM is the new MULLAH of the UMNO-TALIBANS.
    Malaysians of all faiths must REJECT the TALI-BN-ISING of the Country in the coming Elections.
    Vote Out the UMNO-TALIBANS for the future of our next generation!!!

  12. #12 by sec on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 11:46 am

    It has recalled my memory that former PM after the 1999 GE had accused the ” Chinese Chamber Group” is Communist.The Hindraf dare to sue gov; what MCA can do for Chinese at that time. They are afraid to lost ” Kongsi money” in the BN gov.

  13. #13 by Be fair on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 11:53 am

    The problem with the Indian community making such demonstration goes all the way back to the root of special privileges to the Bumiputra community. Think about it, the opportunities which maybe for the Indian communities is taken away with such special treatment.This is a modern day double standard and discrimination.They lost jobs or contracts and other things just because of this rule.

  14. #14 by ckm on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 12:02 pm

    What does this government want to achieve? Are they doing this consciously or are we on a pilot less boat to oblivion?

    Policies that marginalise certain communities are sure to create resentment and anger. The indian are marginalised, as are the chinese and even the orang asli, certainly even the less educated malays.

    Policies that benefits one community only, serves to take away from another. Politician can paint it in any color, but there will be always losers. The best a government can do is to act fairly and be above reproach.

    There is only one end to a race-based government, violence and chaos. The more the a racist government gain, the more egotistic it gets. It no longer see its faults but only defines the criticisms of others as descent.

    Its act of suppressing democracy and free speech will only drive the disenchanted underground. This anger will fester and grow until life has little meaning. Some may leave and those that can’t might commit suicide, others hit back in the form of terror.

    Do these government top guns really want to live by the gun. Remember that violence begets violence, do they really want to live in fear. Remember that when the others have nothing, they have nothing to lose and when you have everything, you have everything to lose.

    Do we want groups of rebels roaming the underground murdering and kidnapping to financing their livelihood. Do we want bombings and shooting like in southern thailand and sri lanka. So many have already turn to crime, because they have no other choices, do we now want to push them further.

    Does the government intend to further oppress and anger 2 million of its citizens (and maybe another 8 more). There are already so many examples to learn from, sri lanka, mindanao, south thailand, timur, aceh, bosnia, laos, sudan… the list is an endless list of failed societies.

    I am personally fearful for our future, the ones in power are now arrogant and bullies. The ones bullied are now angry. The arrogant one may now have to resort to actual violence and not just the threat of violence. The bullied may have to fight if only to live. If it is not ethnic-cleansing now, it will soon be.

    It may already be too late, UMNO has done a very job at creating racial intolerance. Corruption has stolen from the poor and the poor are angry, it looks like the government wish to turn one angry group against another. The one that now think they are protecting their rights to privilege against the others that have none.

  15. #15 by LittleBird on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 12:06 pm

    Once Fatah and Hamas and Abu Sayaf were declared as terrosrist by US but didn’t we rightly continued to support their cause.

    I doubt LTTE really cares for Malaysian Indian Tamils who were largely made up of poor tamils from estates who really need all the support from all Malaysian for them to start all over again.

  16. #16 by Libra2 on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 12:09 pm

    Then IGP must be real bunkum. If his Intelligence gathering is efficient they would have found out all about these terrorists links long before the Hindraf Rally. How is that they did not know? Because there wasn’t any.
    This terrorists story is a UMNO-IGP creation to tarnish the Indians with one brush.
    There may be short term political gain for UMNO but in the long run this will ruin the economy and the country.
    Now it is UMNO/AG/IGP which is chasing away foreign investors.

  17. #17 by Jong on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 2:13 pm

    The BN govt, IGP and AG are desperate. Their reputation beyond repair. To link Hindraf to “terrorism” is not only sickening, horrendous and insane, it also shows how low they can go.

    Let’s vote in the Opposition in coming General Election!

  18. #18 by Jamesy on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 2:30 pm

    Next, Bersih and the Bar Council are “terrorist-linked”?

    Argument : THEY ARE ALL THE SAME.

  19. #19 by Godfather on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 2:51 pm

    Brainless and spineless BN leaders supported by brainless AG and IGP, who are in turn suppported by the brainless mainstream news editors.

  20. #20 by naked taliban on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 2:54 pm

    a] mattress carrying cop
    b] corruption without involving money -DPP
    Both have something in common, SICKENING SODOMY CASE !!
    credible leaders we have , Malaysia boleh.

  21. #21 by k1980 on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 3:08 pm

    Come to think of it, didn’t the 19 hijackers of Sept 11, 2001 belong to Hindraf too? And also the murderers in the Breslan school massacre and the death camps of Nazi Germany. They all are members of Hindraf!!! In other words, a terrorist = a member of Hindraf

  22. #22 by Libra2 on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 3:49 pm

    The only sane voice now is from Kit.
    I hope BN leaders, AG and IGP are running amok will listen to him.

    Bringing calm seems to least of their priorities. They don’t seem to realize the real threat the the nations are the BN leaders, AG and IGP who trying to destablized the situation with their actions and pronouncements.

  23. #23 by Libra2 on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 4:55 pm

    Another disappointment is the Sultan of Selangor’s remarks in today’s STAR. Why did he join in the fray? He shouldn’t have?

  24. #24 by benny on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 5:02 pm

    The top guys like imam hadhari,IGP,AG without any data accusing HINDRAF to have terrorist link.As AG said LTTE is banned organisation by UN,I seriously wonder where did this dumb AG got that informations.The umno led govt is just twisting and creating hatred towards the indian.To be genuine IMAM hadhari was my idol when he won the 11th GE,but today he is down in the drain.He lies through his teeth.MY motto now is to convince as many people to vote 4 oppositions.

  25. #25 by dawsheng on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 5:13 pm

    is it feeling like climate of fear over in malaysia?

  26. #26 by sheriff singh on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 5:13 pm

    I suppose the 31 potential “murderers” now under custody will also be charged soon for being “terrorists”.

    Boy, the government is really scared stiff and is going all out to get them. Elections are near so they are working real hard to turn the people’s minds by putting fear in all of them.

    The AG and his counterparts are really clutching at straws about this “terrorist link” angle. This remains an accusation which anyone can make and which may be false but what the heck, go to town with it.

    That’s why the AG’s chamber loses cases, it bases them on flimsy, unproven grounds, coupled with pathetic prosecution. Perhaps they will now be calling in shadows, skeletons and phantoms as witnesses.

    Who is the person who made the report about the LTTE link? Is he a reliable source? Was he trying to find out if the Hindraf fellows have any links with the Lingam Tape Truthfulness Enquiry (LTTE) committee?

  27. #27 by k1980 on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 5:15 pm

    Petition from citizens to His Majesty the Yang DiPertuan Agong praying for the deferment of the appointment of the President of the Court of Appeal pending the findings and recommendations of the intended Royal Commission of Inquiry

    http://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2007/12/08/daulat-tuanku-patik-patik-petisyen-lagi/

  28. #28 by Jefus on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 5:33 pm

    If the 31 people go to jail for murder, they may be the first people to win the Nobel Peace Prize, prisoners of conscience of Malaysia.

    Think about it. Remember Nelson Mandela, Aung San Su Kyi,… are we going into that direction?

  29. #29 by fed-up on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 5:36 pm

    All our concerns and plea’s are fallen into deaf ears, don’t we all have any say in any way? Must me wait 4-5 years to make a stand and to see change of leadership through a ballet box? So what happens in between one GE to another? Why don’t gomen listen to the all the poor souls, im not only referring to indians, but also poor marginalized malays (who are being duped into NEP) and chinese. Is being equal to all races is such a pain. Aren’t we all one race called Malaysians. And now when the rakyat pleads, bleeds and send petitions over petitions and nothing is being looked upon or done, of course its natural for the rakyat to take it to the streets and to the world, and this is what my dear gomen made BERSIH and HINDRAF do! Aren’t we not being robbed in daylight in our own country? Where does all our income tax, service tax, road tax, business tax, etc… go to? In to some nuts pocket? Gomen:Please don’t say that we cannot question where our money goes…Don’t we all deserve to know? Do we really need a sensationalized spaceman who does no good to science & purchases of submarines and machine guns in a peaceful country like ours is needed? Do we also need multi billion dollar project which is planned to failed? If all the money, all these years has been put to good use, people would not have questioned the gomen today… In fact we could have been better off than Singapore with all the land and natural resources we had, and “Standing in the eyes of the world” would have been more meaningful, now its just a catchy phrase to fool us into believing that we are getting prosperous by the year. Lets face the facts, almost all prices are going up but not our salaries.
    To our corrupt leaders, politicians, policy makers and decision makers (we know who you are, and you know who you are), please please open your eyes and see, step out of you bungalows, your beemers, mercs & from your posh lifestyle and try to fit urself in an average malaysians shoe for a month, u will understand our plight. Please stop being ignorant and stop playing ignorant, there are 28 million of us. If you do not help, who will? No matter what you do u can never take the greed to the grave and what goes around will surely come around.
    Where do we go from here? Ask your-good-selfs my fellow Malaysian brothers…

  30. #30 by hotsync on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 5:44 pm

    Its just amazing how fast the Gov, PDRM, half past 6 ministers jumped on accusing and condemning the Malaysian Indians as terrorists. For the past few days, TV, newspapers, radio etc have been blasting the same messages. Where’s the proof? What? police report made by someone? duh if chinese then link to them to communist ar? Oh No! the public should be in fear cos we are under terrorist attack duh!!! The only attack I witnessed was that the PDRM spraying chemical water and tear gas at the innocent people.

    Everybody knows that its a UMNO propaganda, its just too obvious and coincidence based on the news.

  31. #31 by grace on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 5:46 pm

    When a minister was accused of corruption, this “smart’ Nazri ask “Where is the million of ringgit? Show him and only then would he believe”.
    Now Hindraf is accused of having link with terrorists. Where is the proof?

  32. #32 by mwt on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 5:49 pm

    When the lead singer gives the signal, the chorus follows in condemning Hindraf activities and imaginary ones. The IGP is adding more spices to cook up the external linkages theories. As the AG has said it was based on someone’s police report. They have no evidence yet and only started the investigations.
    Then the component parties started to sing. That MCA Ah Kiow Deputy mentioned as if the link is already established and said the “seeking support is an act of desperation”. MCA & MIC on cue joined in
    But the most annoying is the declaration by that SIL
    “recent developments in the country even showed opportunities had improved for the non-Malays in the government service”
    Is he telling the truth or pushing the keris deeper to hurt more?
    More details
    Go H E R E

  33. #33 by shortie kiasu on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 5:49 pm

    It is strange to note that BN or rather UMNO are so paranoid about dissent or alterntive opinion, like in the case of HINDRAF? They are making mountain out of a molehill, and they just could not stop branding and hurling HINDRAF with all sorts of ridiculous accusations and allegations to the extent that the paranoia baffles right thinking people of the country and also outide the country.

  34. #34 by grace on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 7:01 pm

    Here this stupid Samy does notknow how to use Indian talents. He is not talented andshould give way to more talented Indians. In Singapore where the number ifIndians are much lesser than Malaysia, they could hold very important posts: Namely: DPM, Minister of Finance, Minister of Education and head of Tamasek Investment.
    Now the latest being that the next Citi CEO may be an Indian.

    I wonder what our country is up to? Others are happily making use of talents irresoective of colour and here we are discarding the talents!!! GOOOOOOD BYYYYYYYYYYYYE M’sia!!!

  35. #35 by sheriff singh on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 8:37 pm

    Why is the government so afraid of Hindraf?

    Well those who suffer from Dandruff knows only too well that it is a mysterious disease that afflicts many. It is a pesky problem with no known cure and affects those between 12 and 80 years old with or without hair. Read more about it here:

    http://www.coolnurse.com/dandruff.htm

    Well there were many in the government up there who suffer from Dandruff and thought Hindraf was a related disease and ought to be controlled quickly before it infects other bodily parts like those with big ears. They are now feverishly trying to contain this Hindraf dandruff outbreak before the WHO (World Hindraf-Dandruff Organisation) steps in. Can mass cropping of bodily hair under the ISA (Internal Shaving Act) be not far off?

  36. #36 by Rocky on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 9:00 pm

    someone has better intelligence network than the police! wow!

    This is the same AG that accepted there was no corruption in one of the cases cos the people involved said there was none. so don’t expect much from him. Only hope he judges will be fair to the Indians in this case. as it is we can see from tis case, the govt is discriminating the indians. What about the Batu Buruk incidents, clearly people we seen throwing rocks and police man fired shots. what has happened there.

    Hindraf – you guys are stupid!!! you had it your way until this stupid claim if ethnic cleansing and we will use violence. Plain stupid!!!

  37. #37 by k1980 on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 9:00 pm

    Holy Cow! All those suffering from Dandruff will be detained under the ISA?

  38. #38 by HJ Angus on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 9:31 pm

    Before the IGP spouts more against the HINDRAF he should restore the good name of the police with the speedy implementation of the IPCMC.

    That was deemed necessary by a royal commission while this talk about terrorist links came soon after those people were charged in court. Isn’t it sub judice?

    http://malaysiawatch3.blogspot.com/2007/12/putting-genie-back-in-bottle.html

  39. #39 by Putra-Malaysia on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 9:34 pm

    I’m really sick of this TV3 (other local medias as well). In yesterday’s 8pm news the newscaster said “..Hindraf menjadi biadap sehingga ia ada hubungan dengan kumpulan pengganas”. Where the local media is heading? Why they don’t feel shame to lie to public. Media’s holly professialism has been corrupted with some ‘evil’ people.
    Why they still in denial mode to listen the ‘rakyat’ who has been suffering from some impractical policies where weak rakyat become more weaker and leaders become more and more….
    If smart leaders take control of ‘everything (from media to judciary or whatever) to bring nation and plural societies towards achieve a developed status nation then that’s fine like what is happening is our southern country Singapore. But here opposite is happening.
    History is very good to learn. Not because it’s nice to read or compulsory to learn; but to know why great civilisations had doomed and now how we now should not let the same thing hit us by taking very inteligent moves and action.
    I bet…our leaders can’t understand this.

  40. #40 by dawsheng on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 9:37 pm

    Please don’t be mistaken the Indians are crying out of desperation, what i hear is cries for freedom. Today it is their basic rights that’s been trampled upon, and it is their basic rights to stand up and act to protect themselves, with force if they have to, is there any other choices?

  41. #41 by Jackychin on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 9:48 pm

    People, people, Look at the bigger picture, its working! its working! the recent rallies have made their points, the rulling party now are more cautious about their ill practices, goverment sectors announced to have more variety of races in the offices rather than the superior race, today the PM emphasised that SME funds are for all, and etc etc…They are working hard on sweeping their own mess…

    For the main stream media they have tighter control, ofcourse, using it against the people and manipulate the less informed, just believe the opposite of what is announced and we’ll get the truth, simple…

    And for those who are planning to leave the country please stay and continue the battle for a better tomorrow for our childern, we need people who believe in the good of our country men and opposition efforts…

    And for the “Link between Hindraf and Terrorist parties” announced by the PM and others to the world, is another major humiliation to themselves, who will believe them? Have we seen Tamil tigers and other terrorists running arround our country?…What next? Links with UFOs? Alien Invaders?…

    All in all, the people is benefiting…

  42. #42 by motai on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 10:04 pm

    Police report by P. Uthayakumar 8-12-07 (against Prime Minister, Law Minister, Attorney General, Inspector General of Police.

    Police Report by myself P. Uthayakumar against (1) Malaysian Prime Minister Badawi and UMNO Leaders (2) Law Minister Nazri, (3) Attorney General Gani Patail, (4) Inspector General of Police Musa Hassan and (5) the UMNO controlled print and electronic media namely The News Strait Times, The Star, Malay Mail, Utusan Malaysia, Berita Harian, TV3, RTM 1 and 2, NTV 7 and Astro etc for making false, malicious, seditious, criminally defamatory, racially inciting and inflammatory statements and/or publishing and/or broadcasting and/or causing to be published and/or broadcasted and/or causing the same to be broadcasted that Hindraf has links with LTTE, terrorist groups and supports violence.

    Over the last three (3) weeks the UMNO controlled Malaysian Government and authorities have been going on a smear campaign and/or Hindraf bashing sessions using their aforesaid print and electronic media and on a headlines basis almost every day.

    The statements published and/or broadcasted and/or caused to be published and/or broadcasted that I and/or the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) have links with terrorist organizations, and/or supports violence, Nazri’s statement that “this was from statements of Hindraf leaders who went overseas to garner support that they would meet LTTE leaders” (“Links with Tamil Tigers and India’s RSS, says Nazri,” The Star 8-12-2007 page N10) and Gani Patail’s statement that “The AG had on Wednesday told the court that he had reports Hindraf members had connections with the LTTE” (“Hindraf has links with Tigers” (New Straits Times 8-12-2007 Page 6 (based on an alleged police report lodged by a member of the public which I now say is a false police report. Please investigate and let me know within 48 hours from the date and time herein) is false, malicious, seditious, criminally defamatory racially inciting and inflammatory.

    This is a desperate attempt by UMNO and the Malaysian authorities to sidetrack and/or divert from the real issues Hindraf is championing that is the racism, marginalisation and permanent colonialisation of the ethnic minority Indians in Malaysia by the UMNO controlled Malaysian government for the past 50 years. This is especially so after 25-11-2007 whereafter Hindraf enjoys the support of at least 95% of the 2 million Indians in Malaysia and also has the support and sympathy of foreign governments, NGOs and the media.

    This latest statement is also to falsely and maliciously build up a case against me and Hindraf leaders to detain me and other Hindraf leaders without trial under the draconian Internal Security Act and/or other laws and deny me and the others bail and lock us up and punish us even before we are being found guilty in a Court of Law as was done to the 31 peaceful assemblers and hindu devotees praying at Batu Caves by the Shah Alam Sessions Court on 6th December 2007.

    The above is also a political ploy as the Malaysian general elections are around the corner. Hindraf and their members are victimized persecuted, maliciously and racially prosecuted to show to especially the 60% malay muslim majority that the Indians have been punished for their alleged “demonstration” on 25-11-07.

    The News Straits Times in particular on the 7th and 8th of December maliciously did not publish the whole truth ie “Waytha Moorthy’s brother Uthayakumar had also told The New Paper in Singapore that he could not rule our violence if the demands of the Indian community were not met “(New Straits Time dated 8-12-07 page 6)

    What was maliciously deliberately and intentionally not published was that I and Hindraf have always maintained that we are committed and that we would only persue our struggle through legal and peaceful means following Ghandi’s peaceful and non violent “ahiesma” struggle.

    When asked by The New Paper reporter I expressed fears and concerns that the uneducated Indian masses who may not know of other avenues and having pushed to the wall may resort to violence which was more correctly reported in The Star on 7-12-07 but asserted once again that Hindraf on its part was committed to a legal and peaceful struggle. But this whole truth was never published by the New Straits Times.

    I hereby challenge the Prime Minister, Law Minister, Attorney General and the Inspector General of Police to within 24 hours to produce to me, the local and foreign print and electronic media at a press conference the alleged hard evidence of Hindraf’s link to terrorism and violence failing which I and Hindraf shall presume that the alleged evidence does not exist.

    I also challenge the aforesaid individuals to investigate and make public the real culprits who attacked and killed the 5 Indians and injured 100 over others in the Kg Medan racial attacks tragedy from 8-3-01 to 22-3-01.

    Also investigate the 1,000 over police reports against the various UMNO leaders and Malaysian authorities for the shoot to kill of hundreds of suspects and the mysterious deaths of hundreds in police custody (60% estimated to be Indians who only from 8% of the population) and hundreds of Indian “suspects unlawfully arrested, detained, beaten-up and tortured, hundreds of hindu temples demolished at the rate of one hindu temple in every three weeks and scores of hindu temples forced to relocate next to sewerage tanks.

    Kindly also investigate the truth of my 1,000 over letters, memorandums, appeals protest notes scores of Civil Suits etc to the Prime Minister Ministers, Attorney General, Inspector General of Police, Chief Ministers and the other Malaysian authorities about the racism, marginalization and permanent colonialism of the Indians in Malaysia which only proves Hindraf’s track record of legal and peaceful struggle and Hindraf being no where near terrorism and/or violence. (Published in http://www.policewatchmalaysia.com)

    I fear for me and my family’s safety and ask for 24 hours police protection.

    _______________________
    Uthayakumar a/l Ponnusamy

    copyright policewatchmalaysia.com Contact: 03-22825241

  43. #43 by motai on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 10:05 pm

  44. #44 by cancan on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 10:20 pm

    The judiciary and police are under Umno.
    So,what kind of justice do we expect?

    They can always twist and turns the facts to suit their taste.

    We cannot fight them in our own turf,so we fight them outside ie.internationally.

    Hindraf has laid the groundwork.

  45. #45 by Furiousity on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 10:32 pm

    Well dont except to get much of this demonstration as we all know…who is in power.

    for as long that is in regime…expect this to occur pretty frequently

    and linking hindraf with terrorists… its just a simple mind game by them to divert the supporters away from hindraf

    absurd

  46. #46 by negarawan on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 10:32 pm

    Khairy leads a violent anti-American rally to threat Condaleeza, Hismamuddin leads a violent rally and burns the American flag, why didn’t the police put a ban on their rallies? Why weren’t they charged similarly? Why weren’t they arrested? Why didn’t the government denounce them? These smacks of double standards. What UMNO can do, others cannot do. This is Malaysian Apartheid!

  47. #47 by Furiousity on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 10:41 pm

    Perhaps Mr Sami Velu need to come out and say wat he has up his sleeves.

    Nothing is heard from him and i dun like the fact that he says MIC has done alot of things for the Indians.But i dont see anything that benefits the indian in long term.

    From what i have read on the net and heard from friends internationally, it doesnt seem that malaysia have any good rep so how is the protests going to affect the country when there is nothing to be turnished? funny eh

  48. #48 by 1eyecls on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 10:59 pm

    if the govt. is using weapons to confront protestors,nothing much we can do,even 5 million rally would be turned down!

    We have to ask for help from other country,our govt. is so arrogant,wild and barbarian,actually Malaysia is a small nation,we dont have to be so proud of ourselves(especially the Malays),when more things happen,we know how to judge a govt. whether is good or bad!

    From the way the govt. handles the issues,it’s obviously bias to 1 side,but they have the majority supports,so what are we the minority going to do?

    Unless the BN divides,i strongly urge everyone to leave MCA,MIC,GERAKAN,BERSATU,PPP……when they have less members,maybe their mouth wont open so big!

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  49. #49 by dawsheng on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 11:18 pm

    If today we let Hindraf, who is also our fellow Malaysians suffocated and die a premature death, it is us that gives up our rights to defend ourselves against the tyranny of UMNO. What we witness is not how strong UMNO is or can be, we are seeing how divided we are as some of us refused to stand up for what is right out of fear, this is our weakness. no Malaysians should treats the Hindraf’s demands as just for Indians, didn’t the rest of us also want the same thing? Look, today’s suppression towards Hindraf is suppression towards all Malaysians.

  50. #50 by undergrad2 on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 11:20 pm

    “Holy Cow! All those suffering from Dandruff will be detained under the ISA?” k1980

    Be carefull with what you say!

    You may fall in the way of the Cross! To some ‘cows’ are objects of veneration and holy but to some others it is akin to praying to an idol. They may start getting rid of the cows along with other religious symbols. We don’t want that!

    Without the cows how could we then speak of “talking until the cows come home”.

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