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	<title>Comments on: Call on AG to agree to bail for 31 Hindraf protestors - emergency debate in Parliament on Monday</title>
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		<title>By: kaybeegee</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/07/call-on-ag-to-agree-to-bail-for-31-hindraf-protestors-emergency-debate-in-parliament-on-monday/#comment-69668</link>
		<dc:creator>kaybeegee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The name Patail cannot be a Malay name. The name Patail is very close to the Indian name Patel. If I am right than it shows that a Patail is prepared to prosecute Muthu, Samy Ravi so as to show no racism. However the charges against the alleged Hindraf guys are straightforward. Patail go help your subordinates in the Atlantuya trial. Why dont you? Scared?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The name Patail cannot be a Malay name. The name Patail is very close to the Indian name Patel. If I am right than it shows that a Patail is prepared to prosecute Muthu, Samy Ravi so as to show no racism. However the charges against the alleged Hindraf guys are straightforward. Patail go help your subordinates in the Atlantuya trial. Why dont you? Scared?</p>
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		<title>By: fairplay500</title>
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		<dc:creator>fairplay500</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 02:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello again,

read this:

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/12/8/nation/19703414&#38;sec=nation


	
Nation
Saturday December 8, 2007

MCA: Hindraf way out of line

PETALING JAYA: Allegations of ethnic cleansing by the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) are baseless, untrue and â€œway out of line,â€ said MCA secretary-general Datuk Ong Ka Chuan.  


â€œIn a multi-racial country like Malaysia, it is normal for every community to have grievances. But to accuse the Government of practising ethnic cleansing is something very serious,â€ he said in a press statement yesterday.  


Â»To accuse the Government of practising ethnic cleansing is something very seriousÂ« DATUK ONG KA CHUAN
â€œThe leaders of Hindraf should have been more careful and responsible in making statements.â€  

Ong also said that attempts by Hindraf leaders to involve the British and Indian governments and political leaders in the affairs of the countryâ€™s Indian community should not have been done and that it was tantamount to foreign interference in Malaysiaâ€™s domestic affairs and sovereignty.  

" I guess this is after several attempts to communicate with the gov.

He said the MCA and Government remained committed to assisting the poor irrespective of race.  

"Like who?"

Ong also urged Indian community leaders to channel their views and grievances through the proper channels like MIC representatives, so that issues could be resolved amicably. 

They tried.. but what is "mic" Malays in charge?"

â€œThe Government will view the grievances of the Indian community seriously and continue to take action to resolve them amicably through the mechanism of the Barisan Nasional Government at all levels,â€ he said.  

After 50 years they have done shit  and you an supposedly educated chinaman don't see it? 

Ong said the MCA condemned the actions of Parti Keadilan Rakyat de facto leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim, who went to India to seek foreign support to interfere in Malaysiaâ€™s domestic affairs.  

Yes keep kissing up, what would you do if the chinese were to be in the same position as the indians?

He added that it was obvious that Anwar was â€œgoing all outâ€ to exploit the issue for political gain in a desperate attempt to revive his political strength. 

And I guess you are not!! not just sucking up to the chinese vote but to the malays. By the way what is your take on the terrorist issue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello again,</p>
<p>read this:</p>
<p><a href="http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/12/8/nation/19703414&amp;sec=nation" rel="nofollow">http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/12/8/nation/19703414&amp;sec=nation</a></p>
<p>Nation<br />
Saturday December 8, 2007</p>
<p>MCA: Hindraf way out of line</p>
<p>PETALING JAYA: Allegations of ethnic cleansing by the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) are baseless, untrue and â€œway out of line,â€ said MCA secretary-general Datuk Ong Ka Chuan.  </p>
<p>â€œIn a multi-racial country like Malaysia, it is normal for every community to have grievances. But to accuse the Government of practising ethnic cleansing is something very serious,â€ he said in a press statement yesterday.  </p>
<p>Â»To accuse the Government of practising ethnic cleansing is something very seriousÂ« DATUK ONG KA CHUAN<br />
â€œThe leaders of Hindraf should have been more careful and responsible in making statements.â€  </p>
<p>Ong also said that attempts by Hindraf leaders to involve the British and Indian governments and political leaders in the affairs of the countryâ€™s Indian community should not have been done and that it was tantamount to foreign interference in Malaysiaâ€™s domestic affairs and sovereignty.  </p>
<p>&#8221; I guess this is after several attempts to communicate with the gov.</p>
<p>He said the MCA and Government remained committed to assisting the poor irrespective of race.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Like who?&#8221;</p>
<p>Ong also urged Indian community leaders to channel their views and grievances through the proper channels like MIC representatives, so that issues could be resolved amicably. </p>
<p>They tried.. but what is &#8220;mic&#8221; Malays in charge?&#8221;</p>
<p>â€œThe Government will view the grievances of the Indian community seriously and continue to take action to resolve them amicably through the mechanism of the Barisan Nasional Government at all levels,â€ he said.  </p>
<p>After 50 years they have done shit  and you an supposedly educated chinaman don&#8217;t see it? </p>
<p>Ong said the MCA condemned the actions of Parti Keadilan Rakyat de facto leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim, who went to India to seek foreign support to interfere in Malaysiaâ€™s domestic affairs.  </p>
<p>Yes keep kissing up, what would you do if the chinese were to be in the same position as the indians?</p>
<p>He added that it was obvious that Anwar was â€œgoing all outâ€ to exploit the issue for political gain in a desperate attempt to revive his political strength. </p>
<p>And I guess you are not!! not just sucking up to the chinese vote but to the malays. By the way what is your take on the terrorist issue?</p>
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		<title>By: cheng on soo</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheng on soo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 01:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May be some one worry that polis n army may forget how to deal with terrorist, (since CPM Chin Peng dismantle his gang so long ago), so must find some way to refresh polis n army in this aspect, so just label some body terrorist, then deal with it accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May be some one worry that polis n army may forget how to deal with terrorist, (since CPM Chin Peng dismantle his gang so long ago), so must find some way to refresh polis n army in this aspect, so just label some body terrorist, then deal with it accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/07/call-on-ag-to-agree-to-bail-for-31-hindraf-protestors-emergency-debate-in-parliament-on-monday/#comment-61534</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 01:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>India is  guilty of supporting terrorism when it supported LTTE otherwise known as Tamil Tigers - an organization classified by the United States as a terrorist organization. India has since stopped supporting the Tamil Tigers.

I don't think HINDRAF has the ability nor the intention, left on its own, to morph into anything like a terrorist group. Their leaders who spoke on its behalf have certainly given  the impression that it could and should.

Uthayakumar appears to put the blame on Anwar and Kit for not speaking out loud and clear. Because had these two Opposition leaders done so, according to him, the threat of violence would not be necessary. Listen to the tape of his interview with Malaysiakini.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>India is  guilty of supporting terrorism when it supported LTTE otherwise known as Tamil Tigers - an organization classified by the United States as a terrorist organization. India has since stopped supporting the Tamil Tigers.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think HINDRAF has the ability nor the intention, left on its own, to morph into anything like a terrorist group. Their leaders who spoke on its behalf have certainly given  the impression that it could and should.</p>
<p>Uthayakumar appears to put the blame on Anwar and Kit for not speaking out loud and clear. Because had these two Opposition leaders done so, according to him, the threat of violence would not be necessary. Listen to the tape of his interview with Malaysiakini.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigjoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bigjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 01:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the hell is the PM doing joining in the allegation of terrorism-link of Hindraf? If Hindraf is guilty then Malaysia is guilty by association with Hamas.  Should US also call Malaysia a terrorist-supporting state?

This spin-doctoring of Hindraf is getting dangerously out of hand. There is over-arrogance to believe that Hindraf will not radicalize further and have little support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the hell is the PM doing joining in the allegation of terrorism-link of Hindraf? If Hindraf is guilty then Malaysia is guilty by association with Hamas.  Should US also call Malaysia a terrorist-supporting state?</p>
<p>This spin-doctoring of Hindraf is getting dangerously out of hand. There is over-arrogance to believe that Hindraf will not radicalize further and have little support.</p>
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		<title>By: avtarjat@yahoo.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>avtarjat@yahoo.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 23:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not also charge the ex  Malacca Chief Minister  Tamby Cheeky for incitng hatred ., because in Malaysia you can charge anybody for anything at everybody's whims and fancies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not also charge the ex  Malacca Chief Minister  Tamby Cheeky for incitng hatred ., because in Malaysia you can charge anybody for anything at everybody&#8217;s whims and fancies.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/07/call-on-ag-to-agree-to-bail-for-31-hindraf-protestors-emergency-debate-in-parliament-on-monday/#comment-61517</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 23:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am NOT with HINDRAF but I'm with the lawyers who made that March and the BERSIH supporters.

With HINDRAF I smell another agenda and disagree with its tactics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am NOT with HINDRAF but I&#8217;m with the lawyers who made that March and the BERSIH supporters.</p>
<p>With HINDRAF I smell another agenda and disagree with its tactics.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
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		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"..injustice and religous prosecution in the country .." Aramaitil

I think you meant religious 'persecution' rather than 'prosecution'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;..injustice and religous prosecution in the country ..&#8221; Aramaitil</p>
<p>I think you meant religious &#8216;persecution&#8217; rather than &#8216;prosecution&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/07/call-on-ag-to-agree-to-bail-for-31-hindraf-protestors-emergency-debate-in-parliament-on-monday/#comment-61503</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I am guessing internal party power struggle.."

A power struggle implies a begining and an end -  with a victor and a loser - but a fractured leaderhip means an ineffectual leadership and ineffective policies. This is more a case of no leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am guessing internal party power struggle..&#8221;</p>
<p>A power struggle implies a begining and an end -  with a victor and a loser - but a fractured leaderhip means an ineffectual leadership and ineffective policies. This is more a case of no leadership.</p>
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